T5 B64 Gao Visa Docs 1 Of 6 Fdr- 5-2-03 Gao Interview Of Fbi Re Visa Revocation And Fbi Terrorism Investigations 505

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\e Prepared: May 5, 2003

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Record of Interview Title Purpose Contact Method Contact Place Contact Date Participants

Interview with Steve McCraw, Assistant Director for Intelligence., FBI i To discuss the FBI's role in investigating individuals whose i visas have been revoked for terrorism reasons i In-person interview iFBI \, ' - x . May 2, 2003 , ,. i FBI: Steve McCraw 1 | oh: 1 h:Tom i Ruocco (Mr. McCraw's special assistant;] |ph:

1 GAP: Jess Ford, D Judy McCloskey, Kate Brentzel Comments/Remarks:

We described the interagency revocation process to Mr. McCraw and asked him some questions regarding the FBI's role in the process. Mr. McCraw said that the normal procedure for FBI should be to check to see if there are open cases on any of the individuals named on the revocation cables, especially in the case of visas revoked for terrorism concerns. Mr. McCraw said that the FBI shouJdg&t involved in these cases because the cables are essentially terrorism leads. He said that that is the way it shouJdwork. He said he did not know how it happened in the past, but that is how things should happen since State's revocation is based on intelligence and, even though if may wash out, it is important that the FBI do something with this lead. We asked Mr. McCraw if there would be a resource cost associated with looking into all of these cases and he said that there would be. Mr. McCraw did not what the revocation cables looked like or to which unit in FBI they were being sent. He said that in order for someone to take action on the cables, that they would have to be sent to Larry ; Medford in the Counterterrorism division and that they should not be just "information-only" cables. Mr. The Counterterrorism could then give the lead to the Joint Terrorism Task Forces, which would investigate; /.• He said that INS has the lead on these revocation cases, which may also limit the FBI's ability to get involved. We told Mr. McCraw that approximately 27 individuals whose visas were revoked for terrorism might still be in the United States and he said that he wanted the names and biographies for all of these individuals. We agreed to email this information to his assistant, Tom Ruocco, who will look to see if there are open cases on these individuals.

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