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MEMORANDUM

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FOR THE RECORD

Event: Interview of FBI Special Agen~I.....

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Type of event: Interview Dates: December

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Law Enforcement

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Special Access Issues: DSM

Prepared by: Dieter Snell, 12/14/03 ...

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- CommissioJi;'Dieter

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Special Agent! ./.. }~as spent Je iast six years at the··brlando office, his first post as an FBI :~gent. In hi~~ork on thel:, ". Icasef----lhas found no indication after several inteiviews thai] ';; Ihad any a9vanc~dge of the 9/11 attacks. IngeedJ ./r/lpolygraph te~t -\whiph he passed+ included questions that asked specifically ~4et.~er he had any knowledge of the attacks and whether he had had any contact ~~h Mohamed Atta 1998. ./

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!~ase in August ~Ob2. He recalls that an interview las a p~sslple Atta associate. '::

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In July 2003J s conducted the FBI's most recent interview of Noun to e very cooperative during the interview, which also was attended b wifeand her sister (who also claimed to bel p~tomeY)~./The sister was<~ot\~·:. ~ng D;btesand during-the interview and never interfered with the agents' questioning. The interview included one break so that

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~ent ukdugh every item o~\1h~]iho~e li~t that had been recovered from him during the coriSe-Q.t/search.~fter-..September IJ.j N,eit11~r.llnor his wife could recall giving the list to/anyone orbelieved that tljey had/done so, since it consisted pr~~arily.ofper~onaIFonti1et~. of the..~W~ofther\\4n~ .. [wife's p~rents. The original hst Ennte out on 9!~q(O1 rn ~ pr.es~'tceof 1- went into a 1~ envelope, so doesn't think that a·4uphca~¢.,',y¢t~~oncould have been placed In the I . ~on~.~!lt search materials. According tql the email addresses attached to the list were pnntedout.atthe same time.but '.sep~~·atdY from the list itself.

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he had known Atta...by the n~e 0'( Elamir ~~ beeause the :feports claimed Atta to have spent time in Flo?da~' teli,,~yed\~h~t, \had\Atta act#~ly been in F~orida, he would have contacted him. Whe~ .... /i l,~ad\~tif~ to reach At1i~In July-pec~mber 2000 {to invite Atta I..:wed9ip:'g)/~~a'~!f~~h~r likewise n~d reported that Atta was in Florida, an4 l,pa4\so~gh~)w. li~m\by printing q~t a list qft~:e approximately 100 "Elamir" phone nilinb¢(s he :~o~ld'".iqe~tify\in Florida.I'Fathallah had persuaded oabandon thi~"'PRi~c,'~/t~~o~~ng\th.at, Att~ knew yery ~!~ll ~?W to reach t?:dwould do so:,:·~f'ht(!}van,~~~~ ~p.1 [also re~aIled/he~nng from Atta's

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