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ADDITIONAL WITNESS JAMlETHURMON, 00B/1·30·84 WIF 7320 SOUTH UPHAM ST. LITTLETON, CO 80123 303·933-4628 STUDENT COLUMBINE H.S. FRESHMAN
PARENTAL INfORMATION JANELLE M. THURMON. OOB/5·19-64 W/F SAME ADDRESS/PHONE AS ABOVE WORK: 7200 SOUTH ALTON WAY ENGLEWOOD, CO 80112 '03-843-5511
RANDY K. THURMON, OOB/10-30-61 WIM SAME ADDRESSIPHONE AS ABOVE. WORK; SAMEADDRESS AS ABOVE. 303-843-5130
INVESTIGATION On 4-27.99, between the hours of 1208 and 1343,1 had an opportunity to talk with Jamiereference the incident she observed at Columbine H.S. on 4-20-99. Alsopresentat the interview were herparents, Janelle and Randy.
Jamie stated on 4-20-99, she hadbeenreleased from her 4th hourgovernment class, taughtby Mr. Savino, which is located near the main entrance at Columbine H.S. Jamie statedshe arrived at the cafeteria at about II :20 a.m., and aftershe was showna mapshestatedthatshe wasseatedattable"00." Afterplacing herbackpack andwalleton the tableJamie described seeing an individual whoshesaid was ChrisMarkham, whoran in the north/west cafeteria doorand was telling thestudents to get down., -11d thatsomeone outsidehada gun. She stated thatChrisis described as whitemale, he waswearing a white t-shirt with blue Unit
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jeans, and he disappeared somewhere near the food service line. Sbortly after Chris left the area coach Sanders appeared and be was also telling the students to get down.
Jamie slated at that point she ran to the elevator which is located in the same hallway near the auditorium. After herself and severalollter parnes got on the elevatorthey proceeded upstairs and wben the elevatordoors opened on the second levelnear the library area she said the hallway was full of smoke. She said the students did not believe they were safe, al which time they pushed the elevator 10 go back irrro the cafeteria area. Once they reached the cafeteria area they were accompanied into the auditorium by the janitor, John Curtis, wbo she described as a whitemale. wearinga white t-snirt and a Columbine H.S. baseball cap. Two teachers also accompanied them, a Lee AndresJr. and a second teacher she could not identify, but stated he was a white male, with gray hair. Once they reached the auditoriumthey then went down the foreign language hall and exited the building. They were later taken to Leawood Park.
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I askedJamie when she initially got into the cafeteriaarea if she observed two large duffel bags or sports type bags describedas
one beingblue and one being an orange-ish/red in colorwhichwere in the general area where she was seated. She slated because of'the amount of backpacks she doesn't recall seeing those packs, and she doesn't recall anybody bringing packs described as that into the cafeteria area. Jamie was asked if she saw any gnomon while she was in the cafereria, or when she was on the elevator when it arrived at the second level near the library. Again she slated she did not see any gunmen while she was 10 Columbine RS.
Jamie stated while she was in the cafeteria she was probablythere I().15- minutes, and she beard several gnnshotscorning from upstairs where she believed was the library area. She statedduringthis time she tried to remain under the table for fearshe might be hurt. She stated she was in the school for a total of anywhere to 25-30 minutes before she was ushered out.
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Jamie was asked to describe her dress on 4-20-99, She stated she was dressed in a white tank top, with a blue and white blouse over the tank top, blue jeans and Doc Martin shoes,
Jamie was asked ifshe knew Eric Harris or DylanKlebcld, She stated she had a gym class last semester with Eric Harris, but sitedidn't knowmuchabout him, She stated she did not know Dylanand no informalion about him, Again,! verifiedthat Jamie did not see any gunmenwhile she was in Columbine H's.. nor did she see the largeduffelbag or sports bag which were contained within the cafeteria area.
At the conclusionof my interview [provided Jamie a map of the cafeteriaat which time [request that she document where she was seated and her movements throughout the cafeteria. A copy ofthat is attached to this report
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SUSPECTS: Eric Harris Dylan Klebold
INVESTIGATION: On 5/15199, I was assigned information control number DN3554 for follow up investigation. The information control narrative statedthat ShawnNossaman indicated that a lunchemployee, Ms. Caruthers, was in the cafeteria when this occurred. The information control sheetwas prepared by SergeantCalvinHemphill, Denver Police Department.
On 5118199, 1contacted JeffersonCountySchools Area Administrator, Barb Monseu, and requested any
i'lfurmation she might have on cafeteria employee by the nameof Ms. Caruthers. She said that she had no ~brmation
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of the kitchen. On 5119199 I received a fax transmission from NancyCook for Barb Monseuwith a list of the Columbine High Schoolcafeteriaworkers. Ms. Caruthers is not on that list.
ADDITIONALWITNESSES: 1.
LindaTibljas, Kitchen Manager 12183 W. Tufts Ave Morrison, Co 80465 303-979-2574 Additional cafeteria workers:
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LAKEWOOD POUCE DEPARTMENT SUPPLEMENTAL REPORT DC;PORTING AGENT: DETECTIVE GEORGE MCGLYNN CASE NUMBER: 99.38854 :TIM: COLUMBINE HIGH SCHOOL DATE OF REPORT: OS/20/99 OFFENSE: AOA/COLUMBINE HIGH SCHOOL TASK FORCE/JEFFCO SHERIFF'S OFFICE INFORMATION CONTROL NUMBER: DN3554, fI!l4A.DN57419. CR #99·7625
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Investigator Mike Gallagher of the Jefferson County District Attomey's Office received control numbers 1863 and 3254 to interview Judy Durkin and LindaReffel, Bothare patents of Columbine High Schoolstudents and assisted with the afterprom
partyoccurring on the evening of 04-17-99 intothemorning of 04-18-99. Investigator Gallagher provided information thatboth Dierkin and Reffel believe they had seena propanetank in the freezer of the kitchen at Columbine High School.
I called Reffel, and she stated she had seen the tank in the freezer, but initially thought it was a helium tank. Sheslated it was about 18 to 24 inches tall. She statedthat she and Dierkin had discussed it, and that Dierkin believedit wasa propane tank.
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Reffe! agreedto meet me at ColumbineHigh Scbool and showme exactly whereit was that she had seen the item.
I conlaCted Dierkin, who stated it was definitelya propane tank that she saw in the freezer. She also stated that she and Reliel had discussed the tankand believeditnecessaryto tell JCSO. Dierkin also agreed to meetme at Columbine HighSchool to show
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I spoke with Linda Tibljas, who is themanager of foodselVices for Columbine High School. I asked her about normalgas type tanks of anytype that would be contained in thekitchen or cafeteria area. She stated there were no propane tanks normally kept
withinthe kitchen or cafeteria. She stated therewere CO, tanks, whichwerea 20 pound size, for theirPepsimachines. She said theywere keptinside the storeroomwithinthe kitchen andwere hooked up to Pepsimachines. She stated therewere also "four or so" in the rooproom whichwereold and owned by CocaCola. She stated that Coca Cola would not pick these tanks up due to theirage.
I then askedTibljas if she had been present fur the after prom pony. She statedshe was not. She stated that an unknownperson relatedto the after prom party had called her prior to the after prom party, asking if they could store items for that party in the
kitchen, She stated she told them theycould. Tibljas stated she did not know who the individual was who was in charge of the after prom party or food preparation.
On 05-20-99, I spokewith Reffelin an attempt to makean appointment for meetingat the ColumbineHigh School. Following this conversation, she faxed me two pages worthof information reference the after prom party and chair peoplerelatedto that.
On05-2().99, [ spoke with Lab Supervisor Chris Andrist, He had checked Columbine High Schoolreference any propanetacks that might be utilizedin thekitchenor cafeteria area. Technician Andrist said he found threeCO, tanks in the kitchen office next to
the freezer. He statedhe also found twohelium tanks, about4' tali, in a wooden caseoutsidethe cafeteria area,in the direction
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On 05-24-99. at about 1400hours.I met Dierkinat Columbine High School. She toldme that on Friday. 04-16-99, shebad been
atColumbine HighSchoolbetween1500and2230 hom. andSaturday, 04-17-99, between 0900 and 1600hours,forpreparation of the after prom party. Sl1e stated on 04-17-99, she came backat about 2315 hours, and was at the school until 0600 hours. Dierkin stated when she returned at 2315 hours, she did go down to the kitchen, and specifically the freezer area, where she retrieved someitemsfor the after prom party. Dierldn stated at somepointduringthe night. she noticed that there was what she believedto be a propane tankin the freezer. When I askedDierkinat what point during the night she believed she noticedit. she stated she believed it W1IS "early 00," but couldnot pinpoint the time any further. Dierkinstaled the tank was all white with no markings thatshe recalled, andwas abouta barbecue size. Dierkin stated during the nightshedid not noticeanything unusual. She stated she left the wood block in the kitchen door to keep it propped open throughoutthe night While inside the school Dierkin showedme the areas they had been during the night Dierkin pointed out a doorway outside the Home-Economics classrcoms where she statedthat she and the otherworkers had come in and out She statedoutside thet door is where she had parked. Dierkin pointed into a Home-Be room, labeled"LMI" on the map, as the room they were using for preparation the majority of the rime. Dierkinstatedsheand the otherworkers would go backand fotlh betweenthere and the gym, utilizing the outsidedoorwhich she bad pointed out to me. Sbepointed outa metal gale whichblocked off the hallway towards the east,just outside of the Home-Be room. She stated it was closedthe entire night. but at some point during the night she noticedit was slightly open. Dierkindid not noticeany people in that area. Shepointed down thesouthhallfromthe Horne-Eo area and stated it had been blocked off '''litha paper type barrier, and that no one was comingthrough that area, to includeparents who were staffing the after prollL Dierkin pointedOut an area just outsideof the mainoffices, near the east entrance of the school, where she stated therewas a mazeand slide type area. Dierkin said she specifically recallsDylan Klebold entering, and statedhe was
with a malewith green hair. Dierkinstatedshe recallsseeing him go down the slide becauseher child and date followed soon after, and she recalled looking for themand wonderiog when theywere goingto arrive. As we proceededwestbound down the main ballfromthe main office, Dierkin pointed out gymdoors whichshestatedbad been openduringthe night, which she stared
she had utilized in order to go to the cafeteriafor additional supplies. Dierkinpointedout an elevatorjust outsidethe Library which shestatedsheused through the nightto go down to thekitchen areaand hackup from the kitchen area. Inside the cafeteria Dierkin pointed out the northeast freezer in the kitchen as being the oneshe saw thepropanetank in. Dierkin pointed to the most west wall inside the freezer,on the floor, as the place wherethe tank was suring.
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Dierltin statedthere was no other unusual incidents throughout the night. Dierkin agreed to contactme if she thought of any
additional information. Reffel met me at Colulllbine HighSchool on 05-24-99, at 1430 hours. Reffel stllIed on Saturday, 04-17-99, shewasat Columbine HighSchool between 1000and 2000 bours,doingpreparation forthe after prom party. Reffel stated she was not surewhattime she returned to Columbine High School 0004-17-99. Onceinside theschool, she pointedout areas she had traveled and rooms she had used duringthe after prompony. Shepointedout. Home-Be room, labeledas "LMI" on the map. Shestatedtinsis where she and Dierkin spentthe majority of theirtime. Shepointed outa dooroutside of thatareawhere she stated shehadgone in andout and whereshe had parkedher car outsideof. Shepointed out a motsl gateoutside of the Home-Ec roomwhich she stated wasshut for the entirenight. Reffelstared she didIIDt know if it was locked, but stated she nevernoticed it to be open at anypointduringthe night. She also pointedscuthof the Home-Be room down the hallway, and statedthere bed beena paper barrier prohibiting either staff or kids from going through thathallway. Reffel recalledbeingat that barrierand speaking with another parentand thinking shecouldnOl crossthe bsrrier, Reffel also pointed outthesoutheast doorof the gym. andthe hallway from which she bed traveled to the elevator which she used to go to thekitchen area. Uponenteringthekitchen, Reffelpointed out the northeast freezer door and statedthat waswhere the propane tank had been. I opened the freezer, and she pointed out the floor areaon the westwallwhere she bed seen the tank shebelieved to be a helium tank. She stated when she noticed it. she had been with Dierkin, and specifically asked Dierkin if she needed to bringthis up later for the balloons. Reffel stated she thought it odd as they weredonewithfilling the balloons at thistime. Shestated that Dierkintoldher they wouldnot needthat. Reffel stated she was surethisconversation occurred after theybed comeback to theschool in theevening. Shesaidshebelieves thisas there werecinnamon rolls whichwere already bakedandsitting out in the kitcben. Reffelrecalls commenting thatthey smelled good and wandering if she gotoneof the
Reffel stated that both she and Dierkin smoke. She stated that on either Saturday, 04-17-99, or Friday. 04-16-99, during preparation, she and Dierkin had been insideoneof theirvehicles smoking. Shestared they noticeda male walking towards the fence around the baseball diamond. She stated sherecalled feeling safebecause they were inside of her van. Reffel stated it was
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individual's race. She statedhe wasbetween5'10"and 6'00"and appeared stocky. Reffel stated he did howeverhavea coat on. and she was not sure whetheror not he appeared stocky cine to the coator cine to his acmaJ size. Reffel describedhim as having "a big hairdo." Reffel stated shedid not believe be bad anything 00 Iris head. Reffe! also stated that another parent by the name of LindaHarrisbadalso been outside one night when she noticed people coming and looking to see if she had left yet and feeling
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We need an pareutl ofjunion lad selllon at the IaJIh lebool oa friday April i6111 at 6:00 r.M. to aalold. decorate IUld ...emb1l. W.wtB 11110 Reod all parents' back apin OD Satorday momiDu to DDIsIa ap. WE NEED BELP TO PUTTlUS TOGEtHER.! I'ir.st of all we WlIIllIO thllnk lboo parenlS who bavehelped put tbis eveDl tagel!ler. WIlbout yoW' help and time we would. lll>t bo able 10 do Ibis for l:l\II' kida.
Last reminder 10 ill seniorparents to make !Illle youllaVe cent Ul. a pietllRof }'OW- SOlI or daughterfor the SlllUor will\. (1lemember this pietllR may be tabm 1lollle after the prom Illll'lY and Is not related to the pietllR dw is l'Iq\llSled by l:l\II' yar bookstaf!). If}'O\I do not bav. one lubmitted pl_ do so by placilli the pietllR Ul. an lIIVe!ope and Wi to offiee addressed to the ..Ak Prom PlIItY". Thank YOIl
We ate also requesting las; minute prius (gift e.erdlk-. 1lap.. keyehains. ticket to events) that will be placK in a drawing tbroullmut the CVClll.inJ durinl theAk Prom Party. Please holp III OIIt in this - . Thank YOIl We also wllllt te thaIlli: tllose 'businesses dw have apjn CIllItributed cash _ itlIma for tlUs yr.ltll Alter Prom pany. We hope thatall parenlll who do llIIllIld OIU' OPE.."" HOUSE on SaNl1lay Iligllt tom 9:00 P.M. lD 11:00 P.M, take noteof l:l\II' 'IbaIIk youW1I1l. AIIO, keep in mind tlw a1ler tbiI year we will be losill8 II. lot of OIU' CClIIIll'1.leUon team due lD tho factlbar tb1rir ebildml are sen!OI1, Parenti of SeIliDl'$, Juniors,Sopbamores and even Freshman _ CIlCourqed lD voll1llteer next year. Ills 1IJn. cxcitins wi II. rewlll'l!inll expmence purtiog tbiI tolletbllr! \
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On Q4.21-99, at about 1225 hours, Investigator Brooks and I interviewed Muk Tim iU hisresidence. Tleri stated thaton Q4.2099, at about I LIS hours, he was in the lunch room of the school. He sat down to talk to friends two tables away from the windows, He heard some sounds that appeared to be shots. An unidentified student ran in and said. "Sean got shot." Tieri assumedthatthe shooting was occurring outside, and he went to the window to lookout. An unidentified teacher yelled, "Get down." Theteacherthen ordered them to begincrawling out of the lunch room.
Tieri began crawlingout. He then heard shots comingfrom the lunchroom area. He got up and began to run to a stairway He said he could hear shots being fired very close to him, coming from the lunch room area. Tieri said he did not lookback for fear of being shot When he got to the top of the stairs, he tookthe hallway to the left. He stated he decided to take that hallway, because he only saw oneother personin it The rest of thestudents seemed to he goingout as a herd in onedirection.
Tieri ran to theschool office where an unidentified maleshowed them a way out. They went through a hallway that leads to the art room hallway,then out of the building. Tieri thenran to Clement Park,then to his residence. Tie'; stated that he did not see anyone doing the shooting in the lunchroom. Hedidnotsee any weapons, and that hecould not identify the shooters. He did say he thinks he may have seen two peopleoutside the building when he first stood up and lookedout the window.
Tieri Staled chat in the previous school week,he observed a ccnfrontation between two males in the an hallway. Tieri described one as a toughjock namedBrandon (no description). Hestated Brandon was arguing with a guy that was wearing black, who was smaller than Brandon. Tieristatedthesmallerstudent wearing black told Brandon thathe would, "Get hisgangafterhim:' Brandon replied,"I'll just kill them all." DISPOSITION; Open. l10il
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5/19/99 On 5/13/99, Marc Tieri, DOB 10/23/83, 4901 South Wadsworth, #20, Littleton, Colorado was advised of the identity of the interviewing Agent, and the nature and purpose of the interview. He was interviewed in the presence of his Mother, Susan Emmett, DOB 4/26/48, and step Father, William Emmett, DOB 3/31/47. He provided the following information. On 4/20/99, Marc rode the school bus to Columbine High School, and arrived at approxi~ately 7:20 a.m. He went down to the commons/cafeteria area, and sat with friends until the 7:30 a.m. belL He was sitting with Robert Mosey, Lance Kirkland, and stava Kernan. Thay eat at tabla XX. H,!,- dicin't notice any ciuffel bags or packages that looked out of the ordinary to him. He than want to his normal classes, his last class prior to lunch baing a math class. He went to first period lunch, and was just going to get a snack, When a student ran in the doors near the teachers lounge, and yelled 'Sean got shot". He next noticed students looking out the west windows. There was much confusion in the lunch room, and he also tried to qet a look out of the windows. He briefly saw two people drassed in black outside of the windows, but other than being dreseed in black, could provide no further description. A female teacher then ran in tha cafeteria, and yelled for stucients to qet down on the floor. He got ciown, somewhere on the west side of the cafeteria, under what he believed to be table XX. He then began crawling along the west windows. At this point, he could hear gun shots that souncied like they were inside the cafeteria. He then crawled towards the stairs near the trophy case, got about halfway there, and got up and ran towards the stairs. As he crawled, he remembers crawling over a larqe cylindrical duffel type bag, near the center middle pillar. TO the best of his recollection, the bag was black in co Lor , At the base of the stairs, he heard more gun shots, and thought he was being shot at. He ran up the stairs, down the math and science hallway, and then diverted to the area of the front office. He entered the front office, and staff members assisted he and several other students in exiting near the art classrooms. When he was outside, he ran up Pierce to Bowles, and then walked home.
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OBSERVATION / INVESTIGATION: On May 10, 1999 ! was assigned an interview with Columbine High School student Lauren Tocci who was possibly in the cafeteria during the shootings. I spoke to Lauren's mother. Barbara Tocci, and made an appointment for an interview on May 11th at noon. At 1150 on May 11th I went to 7993 West Plymouth Place and contacted Lauren and Barbara Tocci. Lauren advised that she is a ninth grader at Columbine and that she was in the cafeteria when the shooting began. Lauren related that she got to the cafeteria at about 11:10AM, and was sitting at the table identified as "R". She said that she was sitting with: Jenny Ribble Chris Massias Mike Gagna Jessica Geurts Joceyln Provo Lauren said that she had been seated at the table for about ten minutes when she heard what sounded like someone pounding on the windows, Then a janitor came through the cafeteria with a radiO telling everyone to get under the tables, and then a pipe bomb exploded in the parking lot to the west of the cafeteria, She reported that she hid under the table for about ten seconds when a kid who had been shot outside came in the west door of the cafeteria. At this time a crowd of students started to run up the stairs to the south hall and Lauren followed them, She stated that as she was running up the stairs one or possibly two of the shooters were
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INVESTIGATION On 6-17-99, I wasassigned lead#1484, to interview Brenden Trujillo, a Columbine HighSchoolstudenton 4-20-99. 'This lead
wasoriginally assigned to Investigator Mike Heylin, of the Jefferson County District Attorney'sOffice on 4-27·99.
On 6-24-99, at IS23 hours, I contacted the listedhomephone number forTrujillo, (303)979-{i614. At thisrimeJ spoke with a
iJlle whoidentified b.imself as Brenden Trujillo. I toldhim I was following up onthe written statement he badmade with Denver PoliceDepartment on 4-20-99, andI toldhimI wouldliketo showhimsome diagrams "fColumbine HighSchool. Trujillo and I set an appointment for 6-28·99 at 0900hours, at his residence.
On 6-28-99, at abouz 0910 hours, Ianived at Trujillo's residence. Alsopresent washis mother, Elaine Trujillo. I toldTrujillo
I wanted to talk about the incidenton 4-20-99. I asked him what his fourthperiodclasswas. He stated he had learning lab, which is on tbe lower level of the school, and fromthere he wentstraight to thecafeteria, got his lunch and sat down. He Slated this took him a little over five minutes from the rimethe bell rang at 1110hours. He statedafter he sat down,possibly five to tell
micures Ialer, he beard what he believed to be "muffled" gun fire. He stated some kids at an adjacent tableran to the window
at the edge of the cafeteria. He statedhe thenlookedout as well. I showed Trujillo a diagramof the Columbine HighSchool cafeteria. Trujillo was unsure whichof two tables he was sittingat, but drew a circle around both of them. (See attached.) Trujillo stated after be heardthe gunfire, and looking outside, he could seea male, possibly Lance Kirklinwith bloodon his leg, crawling around on the ground. Trujillo stated he knows Kirklin. Trujillo indicated this was occurring at the bottom of the outside stairway. I then showed Trujillo a diagramof Columbine HighSchool in the areaof the stairsoutsidethe cafeteria. I asked Trujillo to mark an "X" in the area wherethe injuredmale wascrawling (possibly LanceKirklin), which he did. (See
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describe this individual to me. He statedhe was IIOt sure how tall the personwas. I asked him how tall he was, and he Slated he is 5"10". I asked him if this malewas taller or shorter than he was. He stated the individual was taller,skinny build, with possibly blondcurly hair. TrujiUo couldnot describe !iuthefthe attire of the individual. I asked hini specifically aboutshoes, pants, and head gear. Trujillocould not describe any of these items. He statedthe male was facingdown hill with a handgun in oneof hishands. WIth his elbowbent and the gun near his ear. Trujillo was not sure if the gun was in the left or rig.ltt hand.
I asked Trujillo (fhe had any bagswithhim. He statedhe did not. He statedhe knowsthe trenchcoat was open, but couldnot remember what colortheshirt was.
asked Trujillo whathappenednext. He statedhe ran, but initially he duckedunder the table as everyone else was, and then decided to tun. Trujillothen drew on the cafeteria diagramwhichdirection he went. He stated he was not sureto which side. of which table he went,but believes it was pretty much straight from the tableto the stairway, going to the upperlevelof the school. I asked him if he noticed anything unusual in the cafeteria. He stated he did not. I asked him if there wereany unusual bagsor back packs thathe couldrecall, He statedthere was not. [asked him howmuch time had passedfromhearing themuffled gunshots and the time thathe ran out of the cafeteria. He stated aboutthirty seconds had gone by. I asked him if the fire aim had goneoff yet,and he Slated it had not. I asked Trujillo who had been sitting at the table with him. He stated it wasDanRicks
and Mike Lavean, He stated he was not sure if there was anyone else,but possibly EricLarson was siltingthere. He statedEric Larson normally sits there, but he's notactually sure ifhe had arrived yet. I then showed Trujilloanotherdiagram of the upper leve! of theschool, at whichpointhe drew his route of rravel, which he did. (See artached.) Trujillo statedhe had comeup the stairs. thenthrough the southhallway, into a science room. Trujillo statedthis was Ms. Moser's room. He stared Ms. Moser locked the doors and turnedout the lights. Trujillo stated all thelrids (about 30) huddled near an interiorwall. He stated if anyone looked through the doors on either side of this wall they would not be able to see the Individuals huddled on that wall. Trujillo stated at one point he couldhear yelling, whichhe believed to be the gunmen. He stated he believed the malevoices werehollering "police," but stated it was distorted and be truly was not surewhattheyweresaying. Trujillo stated the fire aim
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gunmen were holdinghostages. He stated at this pointbe had no ideathat the individuals involvedwere from theirschool, he believed they were "terrorists or bank robbers". He statedthe silence lasted about an hour, and then he beard gun fire again. He1llllted from the limehe arrivedin thescieaceroom, until the time the SWAT team took them Ollt of the building, was about
rour hOUIS. He stated he and the rest of the students were against the samewall the entire lime.
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bomb after be got inro the scienceroom, which shook the floor. He statedbe hearda lot of gun fire as welL I asked him if the gun fire all sounded the same. He stated it was in different patterns. He statedbe specifically remembers one"big" explosion, but statedthere were other smaller explosions. He statedthe yellingbe heard, and he believed to be coming fromthegunmen,
sounded as if it was in the sciencearea or south main hall, He said it soundedclose, but not aemallyat their door.
askedTrujilloahout the gunman he saw outside. I asked if it was anyone he recognized. He said be did oot recognize him. I asked him ifhe knew eitherDylanKlebold or EricHams. He stated he did not I asked him if theywereanyone he recognized from seeing them in the hallway. He said be did not
I asked Trujillo lfbe had gone intothe cafeteria, anytime before I:bal. during the day. He stated duringfirst period he was in the cafeteria. I asked him ifhe saw anything unusual at that time. He statedhe did not I asked him ifthere was anything unusual aboutthe day, and he stated there was not. I asked him if he had seen the picturesof Harris and Klebold in the papers and on T.V. He stated he bad. He stated based on the pictures he saw, the individual he saw with the gun, he believes to be Dylan Klebold.
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On 05-05-99, at 1000hours,I responded 107385 West Walker Drive, where I contacted and interviewed witness SteveTrujillo. Irujillotoldme mefollowing, On04-20-99, at about Ll lf hours, Trujillo saidhe arrived in 1he cafeteria areaof Columbine High School andsaid he got something toeat,menwentto a tablein the food courtarea, SteveTrujillo saidhesat with KellyBurgess, Amy Evans, Lee (unknownlastname)and others, (He did not remember their names, nor whereeach person was sittingat the table.), SteveTrujillosaid he sat downabout ! 1:20 to 11:25 and then heard some girls (names unknown) ron up to a janitor in the cafeteria and tell him thaI someone had been shot. Steve Trujillo said he thought the girls werejoking untilother students ran to windows of the cafeteria to lookoutside. He saidsomeof thestudents alsoexitedme school through the cafeteria doors, Steve Trujillo said the janitor toldeveryone in the cafeteria to get downon the floor and Steve Trujillo saidhe thenhearda large "boom" noise. Steve Trujillosaid he tried to hide behind a cart, however, when he was unable to, He then ran with other students down1he ballin an easterly direction to the foreign language department, where he hid wim 20 to 25 otherpeople, Steve Trujillo saida short time laterhe ran outof the foreign language department and thenexitedthe school through thesouth doors, He ran to a friend's house on the northwest comer of West Polkand SouthPierce,
SteveTrujillo said he did not see anyof the suspects duringthis incident. He alsotold me that he did not seea blueduffle bag, nordid hesee a propane tank in thecafeteria, SteveTrujillo saidheknows suspect Harris andSUSpeCI Klebold, especially suspect Harris,because they were on a soccerteamtogether, SteveTrujillo said that he played00 the sameSOccer teamas EricHarris Unit
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Witness Trujillo said on 04-20-99, he was wearing a white undershirt with a grayvest over it, bluejeans and sandals. He said he does not remember leaving anything in the cafeteria before he ranout. However, he is not sure. He did say hisbrother, Eric Trujilloleft a blue "Arnercrombie" backpack with its contents inside of a mathclassroom.
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION: Witness Trujillo toldme that he bowlsat Belleview Lanes. locatedat Federal Blvd. and Belleview. He said studentsbowling need to be at the Belleview Lanes at 0615, and bowlingbeginsat 0630. He saidthere ate 18teams of howlersin this league with one of the teams having Dylan Klebold, Eric Harris,Chris Morris and NateDykeman as its teammembers. Witness Trujillo said on 04-2lJ.99, be didnot seeany of the suspects bowling at Belleview Lanes. He said it was not his team, however, that wasscheduled to bowl against the suspects team. Witness Trujillo saidhis schedule is to bowl until0730, then he goes home, gets ready for schooland arrives at Columbine High Schoolbetween 0820 and 0825. H. said he did not see either suspecton 04-2lJ.99, either at Belleview Lanes or at Columbine High School.
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INTERVIEW: Brittany Tyaee 7449 S. Kendall St, Littleton, CO 80123 (303) 973-6987 Subject: Columbine High SchoolShooting,
On 5/11/99 I interviewed Brittany Tyaeke at her home 7449 S. Kendall St. Brittany relatedthat she never saw any duffel bags in the cafeteria and she never saw anyone in possessionof any duffel bags around the school. Brittany said that she entered the cafeteria at approx, 11.l5AM and she stood neat table #L. Brittanyremembered that her friends, KatiePlace, Stephanie Duffy and Joe Marcott, along with a girl by the firstname of Kennywere all at table #L. Brittany said she heard gunshots and left through the west side cafeteria exit doors. Brittany said she ran to hilly area near a fence next to Pierce Blvd. She said a white male, 5-9 approx. 25yrs old withbrown or black hair, wearing a blue plaid shirt and bluejeans, stated"Look at thet explosion, look at all the stuff flying. Isn't that cool". Brittany's friend, DenayTaylor and Katie Placealso heard the guy make the comments. Brittanysaid she left her black fold overbackpackoutside the cafeteria area. Brittanysaid that she didn't observeanythingelse suspicious outside of the school. Brittanyalso relatedthat she didn't know any of the TeM and she never spoke wilh any of them. Brittany said she her friend, Jackie Bakersaid Sarah D was runningpast Jamie Schafnerand she told Jamie to run and Jamie told her "Shut the flickup" and the suspect's walkedrightpast her. Brittany also said "Someguy pulled her friend, Brittany Gillete aside and told her there was going to be anothershooting". Brittany didn't provideany furtherinformation aboutthe TeM or other suspects.
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STEFANIA ULowSKI 81123 W. Polk PI. Littleton, CO. 303.972-4267 05112199, 0830 hrs. Stefania Ulowski was interviewed by Detective S.C. Shott #72049 (DPD) at her home, 81123 W. Polk PI. Her mother, SandraUlowski, was present.
Ms. Ulowski stated that she attended school on the day of the incident; however, she was not sitting in the cafeteria at the time when incident OCCUIted. She said that at 1110 hrs she finished her fourth period class and walked over to the dollar golf cart to help her friend sell food items. Ms. Ulowski said that the cart sells food items for $ 1.00 and it is near the main entrance of the cafeteria and next to the Rebel Comer. Ms. Ulowski identified the friends that were with her as Samantha Haviland. Katelyn Whitney and Alan Barker. They were all at the cart for approximately live minutes when a janitor came by and said that someone had just been shot. She said that she did not hear any gunfire but realized that something was WTOng when students began running by in a panic. Ms. Ulowski said that she and her friends ran to the nearby lower level auditorium and hid there with other students. They then walked up to the upper level auditorium that is connected by a walkway. She said that there were about fifteen other students hiding in the area. While there, she heard what sounded like 5-8 gunshots. She and her friends then decided to leave the auditorium and run down a hallway and out of a door near the smoke pit. They then jumped the fence and ran to Clement Park. Ms. Ulowski said that she had a backpack with her at the time and left it at the chair where she was sitting by the food cart. She described her pack as being forest green in color and it contained misc. books, papers and a calculator. She did not see anyone enter the cafeteria with a duffel bag nor did she see one in or near the cafeteria. She does not know Eric Harris or DYlan Klebold or any of the reM members. She said that she recognized Harris only by sight and he always sat near the vending machines when he was in the cafeteria. She did not see him on the day of the incident and she could not recall if she saw him on the Monday before the incident.
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On May 12, 1999, this investigator met with Sarah Ungerland at her residence. Present during the interview was her mother, Denise Fenner. Sarah stated that on the day of this incident, she had completed completed her fourth hour class and arrived in the cafeteria at approximately 11,15 a.m .. She advised that she sat down at a table with her friends: Shannon Ryan, Casey Peregoy, Stephanie Wujcikowski and Tasle Olson. She was shown a sketch of the cafeteria and indicated an area in the Rebel Corner as where she had been . The backpack list has her backpack at the table marked ·C." That table is in the general area where Sarah thought she had been. Sarah said that she went to the far west end of the food counter, got her lunch and returned to her table. She stated that a few minutes later, students began running and she heard one of them say, • somebody' s got a gun." She said she saw Mr. Sanders in the cafeteria and he was telling everyone to get down under the tables. She said she also saw another teacher, Mr. Brookfield waving his arms in a downward motion. She stated that there was a group of 1
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getunderher tablebecauseshe did not knowwhat was going on, but said she moved to the edge of her seat. Angela said two to three teachers, one who was Mr. Sanders, ran through the cafeteria and toldthe students in thecafeteria to getdown and under the tables, and alsotoldthe students to stayawayfrom the windows. Angela saidsome students gotup to runandweretoldagain to gel down. Angela said by this time, Stephanie Larson had returned to the table, and when they saw the students running through the cafeteria, inan easterly direction, theygotup andranalso. Shesaidtheyranto an areathatshedescribed asa storage typeareaby a bathroom northof the stairway in the cafeteria thatleads to thesecond level of Columbine HighSchool. Angela saidwhile she wasin the areaof the cafeteria, she heard "twobombs" detonate from an unknown location, She saidshe didnot try to lookto see wherethe explosions came from
or what hadoccurred and kept goingawayfrom the cafeteria area. Angela
saidshe stoodwith Stephanie Larson in the areadescribed until a teacher, Mr. Andres, Sr., got the auditorium doors openand thenthey wentintotheauditorium. in the areaof the backstage. Sheestimated therewas a hundred to a hundred and fifty people in theauditorium. Angelasaid after beingin the auditorium, foran unknown lengthof time, the students ran from the stage, up the left side (while looking from the stage towardthe seats) through the audience sectionof the auditorium, then exitedthe auditorium intothe main hallway. Angela said she heardgunshots that she described as sounding "muffled" possibly coming from downstairs. She did notknow howmany gunshots she hadheard at thistime, however. Angela said the hall they went into wasnearthe main entrance of the school andshe saidfrom thislocation she couldsee the windows in the offices were goneand saidthey appeared to havebeen"blown out." Angela saidthestudents in thishall withher,backed up against the lockers, before OfficerSignature
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I showed Angela Urquhartthe photographs of the dufflebag and the propane tankthat were later recovered in the cafeteriaof Columbine High School. She said she did not see eitheritem priorto or duringthis incident. She said she did not notice anyone carryingitemssuch as these, prior t~ or duringthe incident either. Angelasaid she does not knowof anyone.nor has she heard
rumors of anyone. who may he manufacturing explosive devices and/or possessing firearms. Angel. Urquhart said that prior to this incidentshe did not know who Dylan Kleboldand Eric Harris were, and, in fact.did not know these names, She said she did not know anything aboutthe Trench Coat Mafia prior to this incidenteither. Angelasaid she has seen a group of students,most. but not all, wearing trench coats, gather under the stairway or in the hall near the stairs of the cafeteria. Sbe estimated she bas seen len studentsin this groupand said she had seen females in this groupalso. Angela said one of the male students in this group,on a regular basiswore a skirt. She did know his name,however. Shesaid another male in this group was seen with his fingernails painted black. Angela said it was her understanding some of the females associated withthis groupwere into witchcraft. Angelasaid shedid not see any students in this groupat Columbine HighSchool on 04-20-99.
Angela Urquhart said on 04·20-99, she saw the "Thought of the Day" on the Rehel News Network (RNN). She said it read "Today is not a good day to be here," but did not takethis as a threatand said she did not pay much attention to this message.
She told me that a student by the nameof John Fleming was a producer of the daily quote "Thought of the day," she believed and may have been involved in the thought of day for 04-20-99. Shesaid Fleming may have been in the videoproductions class with Dylan Klelbold and/or Eric Harris, but she did not know for sure.
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I asked Angela whatshe hadheardaboutthe events of 04-20-99 and shetoldmesomeof thethingsthatshe has heard, Shesaid two ofher acquaintances, AliciaEncinias and Emily Killingsworth, toldher thatduringthe shooting, theyheardDylan Klebold and EricHarris talkingto each other andtheysaidoneof thesuspects said something to the effectof "Joe, I gotthreeof them," to the othersuspect. Angela said these two witnesses mayhave beeninterviewed by lawenforcement. Angela saidshebelieves
there mayhave been more than two shooters involved on 04-20-99. Angela saidthat another mend ofhers, Latisha Richards, heardan unknown female say that she wouldhave datedDylan Klebold or Eric Harris "in a minute," and 0.1.0 said thai: if she would have been present at Columbine HighSchool on04-20-99, she would havefinished thejob. It is unknown whothisfemale
is and it is unknown at this time if Latisha Richards has been interviewed by taw enforcement Angela Urquhart said that she hadRobyn Anderson in herthirdhouraccounting class at Columbine HighSchool. Angela said RobynAnderson and Robyn's boyfriend at that time, Pat McDuffy, sat behind her in this class, Apparently, Robyn Anderson and PatMcDuffy brokeup and Angela said shecouldhearthem arguing. She saidRobynAnderson wouldbecome very angry ....ith PatMcDuffy duringthesearguments. Angela saidshewould alsohearRobyn Anderson and PatMcDuffy talkto eachother at times in German, Angelasaid she did not hearany conversations aboutNazism, Hitler,etc.. nor did she see any tattoos or clothing insignias that may possibly indicate such beliefs by Robyn Anderson and/or Pat McDUffy,
Angela Urquhart said on Monday, 04-19-99, whilein thisaccounting class, shecould hear RobynAnderson talking about how she hadgoneto the prom the pest weekend with DylanKlebold. Angela did not bear what Robyn Anderson saidaboutgoing to theprom with Dylan Klebold or anyspecifics otherthan Robyn and Dylan hadgonetogether. Angela saidonTuesday, 04-2099, the dayof the shooting, RobynAnderson was not present in tlris accounting class and wasabsent,
Angela Urquhart said whileattending Chatfield High School on Wednesday, 05-19-99, she sawBrooks Brown with an unknown female in the hallway, Angela said although that she has nn specifics of the conversations from the students, she has heardat various times, aboutBrooksBrown beinginvolved with Dylan Klebold and EricHartis. She believes, as doesa large number of students atColumbine HighSchool that~as fully involved with Dylan Klebold and EricHartis in thisincident.
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LAKEWOOD POllCE DEPARTMENT SUPPI.EMENTAL REPORT AEPORTING AGENT: KARLA SARNACKI CASE NUMBER: 99.38856 VICTIM: COLUMBINE HIGH SCHOOL DATE OF REPORT: 04.29-99 OFFENSE: AOA/COLUMBINE HIGH SCHOOl. TASK FORCE! JEFFCO SHERIFF'S OFFICE
SUSPECT: ERIC HARRIS
DYLAN KLEBOLO WITNESS; INFORMATION CONTROl. NUMBER: ON1904, FBI: 114A-DN-51419, JCSO; CR#99-162S, TEAM 4, CAFETERIA WITNESSES, COI.UMBINE HIGH SCHOOl.
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Father: Vacca, Greg, 9413 West Trail Circle, Littleton, CO 80123,303·933·3013, work 303·964·1111 Mother: Vacca, Brenda, 9413 WestTrail Circle, Littleton, CO 80123,303·933·3013 INVESTIGATIQN:
On 04-29-99, at 1550 hoursI interviewed Timothy Vacca inthe presence of hisfatherat his home Timothy stated he drovehimselfto schoolthe morning of 04-20·99 and parked in Clement Park, He arrived between 0705 and 0710 hours, He stated he saw nothing unusual outside the school or inside the school between classes, Timothy did not know HARRIS or KLEBOLD, not even by sight He also did not know anyone in their group, the 'trench coat mafia', He stated he could tell who was in the group by the way they dressed and he described it as dark, gothic style clothing, He stated he came into the cafeteria from the stairsarriving at approximately 1105 hours, He stated he was early and the cafeteria was just beginning to fiU up, He stated he did not see anything unusual in the cafeteria, slatingthat it's verytypicalfor students to leave theirbackpacks neara table andgo get inlina Timothy stated he left his backpack which he indicated on the attached diagram Timothy circled table "HH" as the one he sal at withhis friends whichhe listed on the diagram, He also showed whereeachonewas sittingat the table, Timothy stated it was approximately 1125 hourswhenthe commotion began, He stated what caught his attention was a group of four kicls ran east through the cafeteria, He then saw Mr, Sanders run east through the
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LAKEWOOD POLICE DEPARTMENT SUPPLEMENTAL.REPORT CASE NUMBER: 99-38856 REPORTING AGENT: KARLA SARNACKI VICTIM: COLUMBINE HIGH SCHOOL DATE OF REPORT: 04-29-99 OFFENSE: AOA/COLUMBINE HIGH SCHOOL TASK FORCEl JEFFCO SHERIFF'S OFFICE
cafeteria yelling for everyone to get down. He said kids started to get downon thefloor starting from the westside of the cafeteria and everyone got downas it appeared like a wave spreading across the cafeteria He then heard some pops and thoughtthat it was a senior prank. He then saw smoke in the parking lot out the west windows of the cafeteria. He stated kids started to scream and he and others at the table decided to run
Timothy stated he heard gunfire as he ran up the stairs. He turned left or east at the top of the stairs and ran down the han out the south east comerof the building TimOthy stated that the fire alarm went off lUSt as he was going out the door. He ran across the street to the park on the east side of Pierce Street He stated he continued to hear gunfire and bombs going off. Timothy stated he did not see the shooter Timothy added that he did have a backpack however, he took this with him when he left the cafeteria. Timothy was wearing Khaki shorts. a gray athletic T-shirt under a green and blue plaid shirt Timothy addedthat some kids in the "trench coatmafia"groupgatheroutside of the cafeteria. He staled he described this area as immediately left as you come downthe stairs into the cafeteria. He said he sees this
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Nathan Vanderau, Date of Birth, December 9, 1981, 8031 South Lamar Street, Littleton, Colorado 80128, telephone number (303)971-0536, was interviewed in the presence of and at the residence of Arthur and Becky Stienberger, 8972 West Ida Place, Littleton, Colorado 80123. After being advised of the identity of the interviewing Agents, and the nature of the interview, Vanderau furnished the following information: Vanderau is a Junior at Columbine High School. His lunch hour starts at 11:15 a.m. on April 20, 1999, during his lunch hour he was seated at a table along the west windows of the cafeteria. The table was approximately thirty to thirty-five feet from the northwest dOor and there were a couple of tables between his table and the door. Vanderau was half done eating his lunch when the windows of a car outside exploded in the Senior Lot. Eve~one in the cafeteria stood up to look out the windows. Vanderau saw two individuals outside of the school. One individual he saw only from the waist up was dressed in a White shirt and blue jeans. This person was throwing something in a side arm motion up towards the school roof. Vanderau saw him throw one or two items. The second individual Vanderau got a glimpse of was dressed in black and was taller than the other person. Vanderau did not recall any describers for the two individuals other than they were white males. A teacher came in the door by vanderau's table and told eve~body to get down and get upstairs. This teacher was Mr. Sanders and he was holding his arm and may have been shot. Vanderau began crawling on his stomach towards the stairs on the opposite side of the cafeteria. He got behind a pillar when he heard three gunshots that sounded like a muffled .38 special. Vanderau saw a glimpse of a gunman come through the door that Mr. Sanders used to enter the cafeteria. Based on the gunman's clothing and a quick glimpse of his face, Vanderau believes the gunman was Dylan Klebold. Vanderau had seen Klebold walking around the school dressed in a trench coat. Vanderau knew Klebold was in a group of students that went to prom together. Vanderau's friend, Jessica Hughs, was part of that group. JC.001.004677 Investigation on
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After hesitating at the pillar he continued to the stairs leading to the second floor. As he was going up the stairs he looked up and over his shoulder to the second floor. He saw a fire burst from the balcony area that overloOKs the stairs by the library. The girl next to him fell, but he believes she was able to get back up. Vanderau could not see any individual or gu."l that may have caused the fire burst. At the top of the stairs he turned left and entered the auditorium. In the auditorium, Vanderau heard several gunshots coming from an area that would have been behind the back stage of the aUditorium. He proceeded out the set of doors on the far side of the auditorium, turned right and headed to the front door of the sohool. As he was running down the hall he ran into a friend named Charlie LNU who is also a Junior at Columbine High School. As Charlie LNU reached for the door at the front of tha school the glass shattered. Vanderau doesn't know if the glass was shot out or what caused the shattering. Vanderau then ran through the teacher's lot towards Clement Park and the Pavilion. At the Pavilion he saw Kenny Rupt a friend of his brother. Mr. Kiki Leyba, an English teacher at Columbine High School, was in his car and told the boys to keep on running. Vanderau kept on running and at the intersection of Pierce and the street that Leawood Elementary is on, he ran into Gary Morris. They then saw Bill Graaber's cousin. Vanderau does not recall the name of the female cousin. The cousin and her friend, possibly named Kristen, drove Vanderau and Morris to Morris' parent's house. Vanderau then called his parents and shortly after that Morris' father came home. Justin Wilson, telephone number (303)730-1956 is a freshman at Columbine High School. Wilson had been collecting attendance and told Vanderau he saw someone run from the front door area toward the back of the school as the fire alarm was going off. Bill Greaber also a student at Columbine High School was in the Tech Lab near a window and saw a guy run from the front door or upper commons area towards the back of the school as the fire alarm was going off. Vanderau believes the fire alarm doors shut and lock as the alarms go off. The doors are made of steel.
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05/19/99, 0930 hrs. Nathan Vanderau was interviewed at his home by Detective S.C. Shott #72049 (DPD). This was a follow up interview; his first interview was on 04122199. Nathan SUIted that he attended his 4lb period trigonometry class that gOI out at 1110 hrs, He walked directly to the cafeteria where he met his friends for lunch. He identified the peoplesitting at the table with him as Chris Markim. Jamie Amo, Christian Cardwell and Denette Mussleman, Nathan pointed to table 5S on the seating chart as to where they were sitting at on the day of the incident Nathan stated that he was unaware that there was something going on until a student yelled out that there was a fight outside. Everyone stood up and looked outside and at that time. he observeda gray colored Honda in the parking lot with its windows broken out. Nathan said that moments later, Mr. Sanders J:lIl1 by holding his arm or shoulder and was telling everyone to get down under the tables. Everyone ducked under the tables and at that time several gunshots were heard. Nathan said that he started to crawl to the main entrance of the cafeteria and stopped at one point to hide by a pillarneat table EE. While doing so, he observedDylan Klebold walk into the cafeteria through the door neat the teachers lounge and vending machines. He was the only personstanding up and he was walking around like he was in charge. He did not see a gun or any other type of weapon; however. he believed that Dylan was involvedin some wayby the way he was walking around. Nathan said that he could not recall how Dylan was dressed. Nathan said that he bolted out the main cafeteria door with other students and ran to the lowerlevel part of the auditorium and hid. He thenheard gunshots that sounded like they were coming from behind the stage so he ran from the auditorium past the gym then J:lIl1 out of the northwestdoor. He continued running until he got to ClementPark. Nathan said that he does not know Eric Harris personally but knows him by sight and knew that he belonged to the Trench Coat Mafia. He said that he personally knows Dylan Klebold and has known him for sometime. They once belonged in the same church youth group. Nathan said that he usually kept away from the TCM types because they were weird and they made him nervous. He did not see either Eric or Dylan on the day before or on the day of the incidentwith the exceptionof Dylan when he walked into the cafeteriaat the start of the incident.
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RE: CONTROL # 3744l SOURCE: JllliOl1 Duff LEAD: Re·interview Nathan Vanderau about bis having beenIllIkillg about". bomb in • ttlUIh can"on 041999.
TELEPHONE INTERVlEW: V ANDERAU, NathanJames (OOB:120981)
8031 S. Lamar Street Littleton, CO 80128 (303)971-0536 05-24-99 13:OOpm
Afterreviewing two related interviews of Nathan Vanderau completed by Investigators Steve Sholl (lead DN#311l) and JohnEIvig (lead DN#32) I determined the information regarding his havingtalked about a bomb in a trash can had not yet been addressed. I then telephoned VANDERAU and discussed the reported information. VANDERAU appealedsurprised whenaskedabout his havingmentioned a "bomb in a trash can on April 19th." I brieflyspoke with him about the reportand VANDERAU continued to deny anykouwledge of this, as well as was adamant that he had nevermentioned anything that mighthavebeenconstrued as such. I then spokewith Investigator Gee, whom had originated this lead. Shesaid she recalled Jason DUFF had told her he had only heard this third handas a "rumor." He could not recall from whomhe had heardthis. Due to the information not matching the general information kouwn aboutthe incident, and that the lead wasbased on an apparent unsubstantiated rumor, the lead was not investigated further. VANDERAU's denial of anyrelated knowledge was accepted as truthful.
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Littleton. CO. 303.972.3880 05113199. 1000 hrs, Laura Vander Hamm was interviewed by Detective S.C. Shott #72049 (UPD) at the home at 5950 W. Coal Mine Rd. Her mother. Judith Vander Hamm was present and sat in during the interview.
Ms. Vander Hamm stated that she had completed her 4th period choir class at 1110. brs and walked to the ~eteria with frie~. who she identified as Anne Marie Patralca(Sara Kane, Sara Holton, Cbristina Rower and another girl she did not know by name. Using the seating chart on the diagram, she pointed out table LL as the place she and her friends were sitting prior to the incident. 5-10 minutes later, she saw several boys ron into the cafeteria from outside and at the same time she heard one of the teachers yell for everyone to duck under the tables. A janitor was walked by and made sure that everyone was down. While under the table, she heard what sounded like gunshots. an explosion and people screaming. Everyone started running towards her table then out the door. Ms. Vander Hamm said that she and her friends followed suit and ran from the cafeteria by jumping over a rail that was under the stairway. They then ran up the stairs with other students, passed the library then down a hallway that led to an exit on the opposite end of the school. She said that while running down the hallway she heard several gunshots coming from behind her. She said that once outside, a teacher instructed them to keep going and leave the school grounds. She and her friends jumped a fence. ran across Pierce St. then stopped when they got to Leawood Park. Ms. Vander Hamm said that she did not see anyone shooting a gun or see any of the students who were wounded. She did not see a duffel bag in the cafeteria prior to the shooting nor did she see anyone carry one in. She does not know Eric Harris or Dylan Klebold personally but she knew them by sight only. She did not see either of them on the day of incident or the day before. Ms. Vander Hamm said that when she fled the cafeteria, sbe left her backpack on the floor next to the chair where she was sitting. She described her pack as an Eddie Bauer tan in color with leather straps. The pack contained misc. schoolbooks and papers.
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Patrick Robert Vassar, DOB 08/16/1983, 7542 South Saulsbury Court, Littleton, Colorado, telephone {303}933-9341, a freshman at Columbine High School, was interviewed at his home in the presence of his parents, Bob and carla Vassar, by Special Agent {SA} Ricky V. W:right regarding the incident that took place on 04/20/1999 at Columbine High School. After being advised as to the identity of the interviewing agent and the nature of the interview, Vassar provided the follOWing information: At 11,10 am, Vassar got out of his fourth period science class taught by Ms. Mosier and proceeded from the science department directly to the cafete:ria. Once in the cafeteria, Vassar went directly to the lunch line and got his lunch. Vassar then sat down at a cafeteria table (marked FF on the diagram sketch}. Other students seated at the same table were Kyle Hayes, Alex Schlosse, Zach Cobb, Tim Miller, Chris Donnelly, Austin Stechler, and Jeff Morroni. Vassar was seated at the table facing west. Kyle Hayes was seated next to Vassar, but Vassar cannot recall whether Hayes was seated on his left or right side. At approximately 11,15 am, immediately after Vassar sat down with his lunch, he saw four or five individuals in black walking away from the school. Everyone in the group was wearing trenchcoats, except one, who was wearing camouflage pants. When Vassar saw the group, they were 200-300 feet away from the building. They appeared to have come out of the main entrance on the west side of the school. The group was walking abreast on a path that leads away from that entrance. Vassar could not describe them further and did not recognize any of them. At approximately 11:20 am, Mr. Sanders ran in from the cafeteria from the exit by the teachers lounge and told everyone to get down. Almost everyone in the cafeteria got down, but some ran to the windows to see what was going on, After about three minutes under the tables, Vassar looked up and saw a bomb go off in the parking lot about 100 feet away from the building to the west of the cafeteria. Vassar did not know where the bomb came from. No one seemed to be around the explosion. Someone was driVing near the explosion in the parking lot in a blue pickup truck with a black shell. The truck was driven by a male who
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Subject: Columbine High School Shooting, On 5/12199 I interviewed Phillip WllIDJlet' at bis residence. Phillip related that he entered the cafeteria area at 11.15AM and he sat at table DDor 55 with Tun Mulchy, Eric Sunday, JohnFriel:, Bo Lockwood, JesseGonzalez and Shawn and Jamie withunknown lastnames. Phillip said he camefrom his mathclass. Phillip said he didn't see the duffel bags or anyone carrying the hags in or around the cafeteria area. Phillipsaid he left his backpack at the table where he wassitting. Phillip said he heardsomeone yelling get down andhe thought it wasjust a fight Phillip said he heard 4-5 gun shots coming from the second floor but he didn't see the shooters or anyone getting shot. Phillip said he ran up the stairs and down a hallway and the out an exitdoor. Phillip said he didn't seeany TCM members or associates in the cafeteria areaor outside of theschool priorto and after the incident. Phillip said he never associated withthe TCM and he hasn't heard any rumors about whathappened otherthan his friend, EricSunday saying that he saw a gunmen coming into the cafeteria areaand that he saw them upstairs.
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PARENTAL INfORMATION JANELLE M. THURMON. OOB/5·19-64 W/F SAME ADDRESS/PHONE AS ABOVE WORK: 7200 SOUTH ALTON WAY ENGLEWOOD, CO 80112 '03-843-5511
RANDY K. THURMON, OOB/10-30-61 WIM SAME ADDRESSIPHONE AS ABOVE. WORK; SAMEADDRESS AS ABOVE. 303-843-5130
INVESTIGATION On 4-27.99, between the hours of 1208 and 1343,1 had an opportunity to talk with Jamiereference the incident she observed at Columbine H.S. on 4-20-99. Alsopresentat the interview were herparents, Janelle and Randy.
Jamie stated on 4-20-99, she hadbeenreleased from her 4th hourgovernment class, taughtby Mr. Savino, which is located near the main entrance at Columbine H.S. Jamie statedshe arrived at the cafeteria at about II :20 a.m., and aftershe was showna mapshestatedthatshe wasseatedattable"00." Afterplacing herbackpack andwalleton the tableJamie described seeing an individual whoshesaid was ChrisMarkham, whoran in the north/west cafeteria doorand was telling thestudents to get down., -11d thatsomeone outsidehada gun. She stated thatChrisis described as whitemale, he waswearing a white t-shirt with blue Unit
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Jamie slated at that point she ran to the elevator which is located in the same hallway near the auditorium. After herself and severalollter parnes got on the elevatorthey proceeded upstairs and wben the elevatordoors opened on the second levelnear the library area she said the hallway was full of smoke. She said the students did not believe they were safe, al which time they pushed the elevator 10 go back irrro the cafeteria area. Once they reached the cafeteria area they were accompanied into the auditorium by the janitor, John Curtis, wbo she described as a whitemale. wearinga white t-snirt and a Columbine H.S. baseball cap. Two teachers also accompanied them, a Lee AndresJr. and a second teacher she could not identify, but stated he was a white male, with gray hair. Once they reached the auditoriumthey then went down the foreign language hall and exited the building. They were later taken to Leawood Park.
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one beingblue and one being an orange-ish/red in colorwhichwere in the general area where she was seated. She slated because of'the amount of backpacks she doesn't recall seeing those packs, and she doesn't recall anybody bringing packs described as that into the cafeteria area. Jamie was asked if she saw any gnomon while she was in the cafereria, or when she was on the elevator when it arrived at the second level near the library. Again she slated she did not see any gunmen while she was 10 Columbine RS.
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Jamie was asked ifshe knew Eric Harris or DylanKlebcld, She stated she had a gym class last semester with Eric Harris, but sitedidn't knowmuchabout him, She stated she did not know Dylanand no informalion about him, Again,! verifiedthat Jamie did not see any gunmenwhile she was in Columbine H's.. nor did she see the largeduffelbag or sports bag which were contained within the cafeteria area.
At the conclusionof my interview [provided Jamie a map of the cafeteriaat which time [request that she document where she was seated and her movements throughout the cafeteria. A copy ofthat is attached to this report
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SUSPECTS: Eric Harris Dylan Klebold
INVESTIGATION: On 5/15199, I was assigned information control number DN3554 for follow up investigation. The information control narrative statedthat ShawnNossaman indicated that a lunchemployee, Ms. Caruthers, was in the cafeteria when this occurred. The information control sheetwas prepared by SergeantCalvinHemphill, Denver Police Department.
On 5118199, 1contacted JeffersonCountySchools Area Administrator, Barb Monseu, and requested any
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ADDITIONALWITNESSES: 1.
LindaTibljas, Kitchen Manager 12183 W. Tufts Ave Morrison, Co 80465 303-979-2574 Additional cafeteria workers:
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partyoccurring on the evening of 04-17-99 intothemorning of 04-18-99. Investigator Gallagher provided information thatboth Dierkin and Reffel believe they had seena propanetank in the freezer of the kitchen at Columbine High School.
I called Reffel, and she stated she had seen the tank in the freezer, but initially thought it was a helium tank. Sheslated it was about 18 to 24 inches tall. She statedthat she and Dierkin had discussed it, and that Dierkin believedit wasa propane tank.
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I spoke with Linda Tibljas, who is themanager of foodselVices for Columbine High School. I asked her about normalgas type tanks of anytype that would be contained in thekitchen or cafeteria area. She stated there were no propane tanks normally kept
withinthe kitchen or cafeteria. She stated therewere CO, tanks, whichwerea 20 pound size, for theirPepsimachines. She said theywere keptinside the storeroomwithinthe kitchen andwere hooked up to Pepsimachines. She stated therewere also "four or so" in the rooproom whichwereold and owned by CocaCola. She stated that Coca Cola would not pick these tanks up due to theirage.
I then askedTibljas if she had been present fur the after prom pony. She statedshe was not. She stated that an unknownperson relatedto the after prom party had called her prior to the after prom party, asking if they could store items for that party in the
kitchen, She stated she told them theycould. Tibljas stated she did not know who the individual was who was in charge of the after prom party or food preparation.
On 05-20-99, I spokewith Reffelin an attempt to makean appointment for meetingat the ColumbineHigh School. Following this conversation, she faxed me two pages worthof information reference the after prom party and chair peoplerelatedto that.
On05-2().99, [ spoke with Lab Supervisor Chris Andrist, He had checked Columbine High Schoolreference any propanetacks that might be utilizedin thekitchenor cafeteria area. Technician Andrist said he found threeCO, tanks in the kitchen office next to
the freezer. He statedhe also found twohelium tanks, about4' tali, in a wooden caseoutsidethe cafeteria area,in the direction
of the auditorium. He stated he found no propane tanks relatedto operationswithinthe kitchenor cafeteria.
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atColumbine HighSchoolbetween1500and2230 hom. andSaturday, 04-17-99, between 0900 and 1600hours,forpreparation of the after prom party. Sl1e stated on 04-17-99, she came backat about 2315 hours, and was at the school until 0600 hours. Dierkin stated when she returned at 2315 hours, she did go down to the kitchen, and specifically the freezer area, where she retrieved someitemsfor the after prom party. Dierldn stated at somepointduringthe night. she noticed that there was what she believedto be a propane tankin the freezer. When I askedDierkinat what point during the night she believed she noticedit. she stated she believed it W1IS "early 00," but couldnot pinpoint the time any further. Dierkinstaled the tank was all white with no markings thatshe recalled, andwas abouta barbecue size. Dierkin stated during the nightshedid not noticeanything unusual. She stated she left the wood block in the kitchen door to keep it propped open throughoutthe night While inside the school Dierkin showedme the areas they had been during the night Dierkin pointed out a doorway outside the Home-Economics classrcoms where she statedthat she and the otherworkers had come in and out She statedoutside thet door is where she had parked. Dierkin pointed into a Home-Be room, labeled"LMI" on the map, as the room they were using for preparation the majority of the rime. Dierkinstatedsheand the otherworkers would go backand fotlh betweenthere and the gym, utilizing the outsidedoorwhich she bad pointed out to me. Sbepointed outa metal gale whichblocked off the hallway towards the east,just outside of the Home-Be room. She stated it was closedthe entire night. but at some point during the night she noticedit was slightly open. Dierkindid not noticeany people in that area. Shepointed down thesouthhallfromthe Horne-Eo area and stated it had been blocked off '''litha paper type barrier, and that no one was comingthrough that area, to includeparents who were staffing the after prollL Dierkin pointedOut an area just outsideof the mainoffices, near the east entrance of the school, where she stated therewas a mazeand slide type area. Dierkin said she specifically recallsDylan Klebold entering, and statedhe was
with a malewith green hair. Dierkinstatedshe recallsseeing him go down the slide becauseher child and date followed soon after, and she recalled looking for themand wonderiog when theywere goingto arrive. As we proceededwestbound down the main ballfromthe main office, Dierkin pointed out gymdoors whichshestatedbad been openduringthe night, which she stared
she had utilized in order to go to the cafeteriafor additional supplies. Dierkinpointedout an elevatorjust outsidethe Library which shestatedsheused through the nightto go down to thekitchen areaand hackup from the kitchen area. Inside the cafeteria Dierkin pointed out the northeast freezer in the kitchen as being the oneshe saw thepropanetank in. Dierkin pointed to the most west wall inside the freezer,on the floor, as the place wherethe tank was suring.
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additional information. Reffel met me at Colulllbine HighSchool on 05-24-99, at 1430 hours. Reffel stllIed on Saturday, 04-17-99, shewasat Columbine HighSchool between 1000and 2000 bours,doingpreparation forthe after prom party. Reffel stated she was not surewhattime she returned to Columbine High School 0004-17-99. Onceinside theschool, she pointedout areas she had traveled and rooms she had used duringthe after prompony. Shepointedout. Home-Be room, labeledas "LMI" on the map. Shestatedtinsis where she and Dierkin spentthe majority of theirtime. Shepointed outa dooroutside of thatareawhere she stated shehadgone in andout and whereshe had parkedher car outsideof. Shepointed out a motsl gateoutside of the Home-Ec roomwhich she stated wasshut for the entirenight. Reffelstared she didIIDt know if it was locked, but stated she nevernoticed it to be open at anypointduringthe night. She also pointedscuthof the Home-Be room down the hallway, and statedthere bed beena paper barrier prohibiting either staff or kids from going through thathallway. Reffel recalledbeingat that barrierand speaking with another parentand thinking shecouldnOl crossthe bsrrier, Reffel also pointed outthesoutheast doorof the gym. andthe hallway from which she bed traveled to the elevator which she used to go to thekitchen area. Uponenteringthekitchen, Reffelpointed out the northeast freezer door and statedthat waswhere the propane tank had been. I opened the freezer, and she pointed out the floor areaon the westwallwhere she bed seen the tank shebelieved to be a helium tank. She stated when she noticed it. she had been with Dierkin, and specifically asked Dierkin if she needed to bringthis up later for the balloons. Reffel stated she thought it odd as they weredonewithfilling the balloons at thistime. Shestated that Dierkintoldher they wouldnot needthat. Reffel stated she was surethisconversation occurred after theybed comeback to theschool in theevening. Shesaidshebelieves thisas there werecinnamon rolls whichwere already bakedandsitting out in the kitcben. Reffelrecalls commenting thatthey smelled good and wandering if she gotoneof the
Reffel stated that both she and Dierkin smoke. She stated that on either Saturday, 04-17-99, or Friday. 04-16-99, during preparation, she and Dierkin had been insideoneof theirvehicles smoking. Shestared they noticeda male walking towards the fence around the baseball diamond. She stated sherecalled feeling safebecause they were inside of her van. Reffel stated it was
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We need an pareutl ofjunion lad selllon at the IaJIh lebool oa friday April i6111 at 6:00 r.M. to aalold. decorate IUld ...emb1l. W.wtB 11110 Reod all parents' back apin OD Satorday momiDu to DDIsIa ap. WE NEED BELP TO PUTTlUS TOGEtHER.! I'ir.st of all we WlIIllIO thllnk lboo parenlS who bavehelped put tbis eveDl tagel!ler. WIlbout yoW' help and time we would. lll>t bo able 10 do Ibis for l:l\II' kida.
Last reminder 10 ill seniorparents to make !Illle youllaVe cent Ul. a pietllRof }'OW- SOlI or daughterfor the SlllUor will\. (1lemember this pietllR may be tabm 1lollle after the prom Illll'lY and Is not related to the pietllR dw is l'Iq\llSled by l:l\II' yar bookstaf!). If}'O\I do not bav. one lubmitted pl_ do so by placilli the pietllR Ul. an lIIVe!ope and Wi to offiee addressed to the ..Ak Prom PlIItY". Thank YOIl
We ate also requesting las; minute prius (gift e.erdlk-. 1lap.. keyehains. ticket to events) that will be placK in a drawing tbroullmut the CVClll.inJ durinl theAk Prom Party. Please holp III OIIt in this - . Thank YOIl We also wllllt te thaIlli: tllose 'businesses dw have apjn CIllItributed cash _ itlIma for tlUs yr.ltll Alter Prom pany. We hope thatall parenlll who do llIIllIld OIU' OPE.."" HOUSE on SaNl1lay Iligllt tom 9:00 P.M. lD 11:00 P.M, take noteof l:l\II' 'IbaIIk youW1I1l. AIIO, keep in mind tlw a1ler tbiI year we will be losill8 II. lot of OIU' CClIIIll'1.leUon team due lD tho factlbar tb1rir ebildml are sen!OI1, Parenti of SeIliDl'$, Juniors,Sopbamores and even Freshman _ CIlCourqed lD voll1llteer next year. Ills 1IJn. cxcitins wi II. rewlll'l!inll expmence purtiog tbiI tolletbllr! \
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On Q4.21-99, at about 1225 hours, Investigator Brooks and I interviewed Muk Tim iU hisresidence. Tleri stated thaton Q4.2099, at about I LIS hours, he was in the lunch room of the school. He sat down to talk to friends two tables away from the windows, He heard some sounds that appeared to be shots. An unidentified student ran in and said. "Sean got shot." Tieri assumedthatthe shooting was occurring outside, and he went to the window to lookout. An unidentified teacher yelled, "Get down." Theteacherthen ordered them to begincrawling out of the lunch room.
Tieri began crawlingout. He then heard shots comingfrom the lunchroom area. He got up and began to run to a stairway He said he could hear shots being fired very close to him, coming from the lunch room area. Tieri said he did not lookback for fear of being shot When he got to the top of the stairs, he tookthe hallway to the left. He stated he decided to take that hallway, because he only saw oneother personin it The rest of thestudents seemed to he goingout as a herd in onedirection.
Tieri ran to theschool office where an unidentified maleshowed them a way out. They went through a hallway that leads to the art room hallway,then out of the building. Tieri thenran to Clement Park,then to his residence. Tie'; stated that he did not see anyone doing the shooting in the lunchroom. Hedidnotsee any weapons, and that hecould not identify the shooters. He did say he thinks he may have seen two peopleoutside the building when he first stood up and lookedout the window.
Tieri Staled chat in the previous school week,he observed a ccnfrontation between two males in the an hallway. Tieri described one as a toughjock namedBrandon (no description). Hestated Brandon was arguing with a guy that was wearing black, who was smaller than Brandon. Tieristatedthesmallerstudent wearing black told Brandon thathe would, "Get hisgangafterhim:' Brandon replied,"I'll just kill them all." DISPOSITION; Open. l10il
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5/19/99 On 5/13/99, Marc Tieri, DOB 10/23/83, 4901 South Wadsworth, #20, Littleton, Colorado was advised of the identity of the interviewing Agent, and the nature and purpose of the interview. He was interviewed in the presence of his Mother, Susan Emmett, DOB 4/26/48, and step Father, William Emmett, DOB 3/31/47. He provided the following information. On 4/20/99, Marc rode the school bus to Columbine High School, and arrived at approxi~ately 7:20 a.m. He went down to the commons/cafeteria area, and sat with friends until the 7:30 a.m. belL He was sitting with Robert Mosey, Lance Kirkland, and stava Kernan. Thay eat at tabla XX. H,!,- dicin't notice any ciuffel bags or packages that looked out of the ordinary to him. He than want to his normal classes, his last class prior to lunch baing a math class. He went to first period lunch, and was just going to get a snack, When a student ran in the doors near the teachers lounge, and yelled 'Sean got shot". He next noticed students looking out the west windows. There was much confusion in the lunch room, and he also tried to qet a look out of the windows. He briefly saw two people drassed in black outside of the windows, but other than being dreseed in black, could provide no further description. A female teacher then ran in tha cafeteria, and yelled for stucients to qet down on the floor. He got ciown, somewhere on the west side of the cafeteria, under what he believed to be table XX. He then began crawling along the west windows. At this point, he could hear gun shots that souncied like they were inside the cafeteria. He then crawled towards the stairs near the trophy case, got about halfway there, and got up and ran towards the stairs. As he crawled, he remembers crawling over a larqe cylindrical duffel type bag, near the center middle pillar. TO the best of his recollection, the bag was black in co Lor , At the base of the stairs, he heard more gun shots, and thought he was being shot at. He ran up the stairs, down the math and science hallway, and then diverted to the area of the front office. He entered the front office, and staff members assisted he and several other students in exiting near the art classrooms. When he was outside, he ran up Pierce to Bowles, and then walked home.
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OBSERVATION / INVESTIGATION: On May 10, 1999 ! was assigned an interview with Columbine High School student Lauren Tocci who was possibly in the cafeteria during the shootings. I spoke to Lauren's mother. Barbara Tocci, and made an appointment for an interview on May 11th at noon. At 1150 on May 11th I went to 7993 West Plymouth Place and contacted Lauren and Barbara Tocci. Lauren advised that she is a ninth grader at Columbine and that she was in the cafeteria when the shooting began. Lauren related that she got to the cafeteria at about 11:10AM, and was sitting at the table identified as "R". She said that she was sitting with: Jenny Ribble Chris Massias Mike Gagna Jessica Geurts Joceyln Provo Lauren said that she had been seated at the table for about ten minutes when she heard what sounded like someone pounding on the windows, Then a janitor came through the cafeteria with a radiO telling everyone to get under the tables, and then a pipe bomb exploded in the parking lot to the west of the cafeteria, She reported that she hid under the table for about ten seconds when a kid who had been shot outside came in the west door of the cafeteria. At this time a crowd of students started to run up the stairs to the south hall and Lauren followed them, She stated that as she was running up the stairs one or possibly two of the shooters were
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INVESTIGATION On 6-17-99, I wasassigned lead#1484, to interview Brenden Trujillo, a Columbine HighSchoolstudenton 4-20-99. 'This lead
wasoriginally assigned to Investigator Mike Heylin, of the Jefferson County District Attorney'sOffice on 4-27·99.
On 6-24-99, at IS23 hours, I contacted the listedhomephone number forTrujillo, (303)979-{i614. At thisrimeJ spoke with a
iJlle whoidentified b.imself as Brenden Trujillo. I toldhim I was following up onthe written statement he badmade with Denver PoliceDepartment on 4-20-99, andI toldhimI wouldliketo showhimsome diagrams "fColumbine HighSchool. Trujillo and I set an appointment for 6-28·99 at 0900hours, at his residence.
On 6-28-99, at abouz 0910 hours, Ianived at Trujillo's residence. Alsopresent washis mother, Elaine Trujillo. I toldTrujillo
I wanted to talk about the incidenton 4-20-99. I asked him what his fourthperiodclasswas. He stated he had learning lab, which is on tbe lower level of the school, and fromthere he wentstraight to thecafeteria, got his lunch and sat down. He Slated this took him a little over five minutes from the rimethe bell rang at 1110hours. He statedafter he sat down,possibly five to tell
micures Ialer, he beard what he believed to be "muffled" gun fire. He stated some kids at an adjacent tableran to the window
at the edge of the cafeteria. He statedhe thenlookedout as well. I showed Trujillo a diagramof the Columbine HighSchool cafeteria. Trujillo was unsure whichof two tables he was sittingat, but drew a circle around both of them. (See attached.) Trujillo stated after be heardthe gunfire, and looking outside, he could seea male, possibly Lance Kirklinwith bloodon his leg, crawling around on the ground. Trujillo stated he knows Kirklin. Trujillo indicated this was occurring at the bottom of the outside stairway. I then showed Trujillo a diagramof Columbine HighSchool in the areaof the stairsoutsidethe cafeteria. I asked Trujillo to mark an "X" in the area wherethe injuredmale wascrawling (possibly LanceKirklin), which he did. (See
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describe this individual to me. He statedhe was IIOt sure how tall the personwas. I asked him how tall he was, and he Slated he is 5"10". I asked him if this malewas taller or shorter than he was. He stated the individual was taller,skinny build, with possibly blondcurly hair. TrujiUo couldnot describe !iuthefthe attire of the individual. I asked hini specifically aboutshoes, pants, and head gear. Trujillocould not describe any of these items. He statedthe male was facingdown hill with a handgun in oneof hishands. WIth his elbowbent and the gun near his ear. Trujillo was not sure if the gun was in the left or rig.ltt hand.
I asked Trujillo (fhe had any bagswithhim. He statedhe did not. He statedhe knowsthe trenchcoat was open, but couldnot remember what colortheshirt was.
asked Trujillo whathappenednext. He statedhe ran, but initially he duckedunder the table as everyone else was, and then decided to tun. Trujillothen drew on the cafeteria diagramwhichdirection he went. He stated he was not sureto which side. of which table he went,but believes it was pretty much straight from the tableto the stairway, going to the upperlevelof the school. I asked him if he noticed anything unusual in the cafeteria. He stated he did not. I asked him if there wereany unusual bagsor back packs thathe couldrecall, He statedthere was not. [asked him howmuch time had passedfromhearing themuffled gunshots and the time thathe ran out of the cafeteria. He stated aboutthirty seconds had gone by. I asked him if the fire aim had goneoff yet,and he Slated it had not. I asked Trujillo who had been sitting at the table with him. He stated it wasDanRicks
and Mike Lavean, He stated he was not sure if there was anyone else,but possibly EricLarson was siltingthere. He statedEric Larson normally sits there, but he's notactually sure ifhe had arrived yet. I then showed Trujilloanotherdiagram of the upper leve! of theschool, at whichpointhe drew his route of rravel, which he did. (See artached.) Trujillo statedhe had comeup the stairs. thenthrough the southhallway, into a science room. Trujillo statedthis was Ms. Moser's room. He stared Ms. Moser locked the doors and turnedout the lights. Trujillo stated all thelrids (about 30) huddled near an interiorwall. He stated if anyone looked through the doors on either side of this wall they would not be able to see the Individuals huddled on that wall. Trujillo stated at one point he couldhear yelling, whichhe believed to be the gunmen. He stated he believed the malevoices werehollering "police," but stated it was distorted and be truly was not surewhattheyweresaying. Trujillo stated the fire aim
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gunmen were holdinghostages. He stated at this pointbe had no ideathat the individuals involvedwere from theirschool, he believed they were "terrorists or bank robbers". He statedthe silence lasted about an hour, and then he beard gun fire again. He1llllted from the limehe arrivedin thescieaceroom, until the time the SWAT team took them Ollt of the building, was about
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bomb after be got inro the scienceroom, which shook the floor. He statedbe hearda lot of gun fire as welL I asked him if the gun fire all sounded the same. He stated it was in different patterns. He statedbe specifically remembers one"big" explosion, but statedthere were other smaller explosions. He statedthe yellingbe heard, and he believed to be coming fromthegunmen,
sounded as if it was in the sciencearea or south main hall, He said it soundedclose, but not aemallyat their door.
askedTrujilloahout the gunman he saw outside. I asked if it was anyone he recognized. He said be did oot recognize him. I asked him ifhe knew eitherDylanKlebold or EricHams. He stated he did not I asked him if theywereanyone he recognized from seeing them in the hallway. He said be did not
I asked Trujillo lfbe had gone intothe cafeteria, anytime before I:bal. during the day. He stated duringfirst period he was in the cafeteria. I asked him ifhe saw anything unusual at that time. He statedhe did not I asked him ifthere was anything unusual aboutthe day, and he stated there was not. I asked him if he had seen the picturesof Harris and Klebold in the papers and on T.V. He stated he bad. He stated based on the pictures he saw, the individual he saw with the gun, he believes to be Dylan Klebold.
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On 05-05-99, at 1000hours,I responded 107385 West Walker Drive, where I contacted and interviewed witness SteveTrujillo. Irujillotoldme mefollowing, On04-20-99, at about Ll lf hours, Trujillo saidhe arrived in 1he cafeteria areaof Columbine High School andsaid he got something toeat,menwentto a tablein the food courtarea, SteveTrujillo saidhesat with KellyBurgess, Amy Evans, Lee (unknownlastname)and others, (He did not remember their names, nor whereeach person was sittingat the table.), SteveTrujillosaid he sat downabout ! 1:20 to 11:25 and then heard some girls (names unknown) ron up to a janitor in the cafeteria and tell him thaI someone had been shot. Steve Trujillo said he thought the girls werejoking untilother students ran to windows of the cafeteria to lookoutside. He saidsomeof thestudents alsoexitedme school through the cafeteria doors, Steve Trujillo said the janitor toldeveryone in the cafeteria to get downon the floor and Steve Trujillo saidhe thenhearda large "boom" noise. Steve Trujillosaid he tried to hide behind a cart, however, when he was unable to, He then ran with other students down1he ballin an easterly direction to the foreign language department, where he hid wim 20 to 25 otherpeople, Steve Trujillo saida short time laterhe ran outof the foreign language department and thenexitedthe school through thesouth doors, He ran to a friend's house on the northwest comer of West Polkand SouthPierce,
SteveTrujillo said he did not see anyof the suspects duringthis incident. He alsotold me that he did not seea blueduffle bag, nordid hesee a propane tank in thecafeteria, SteveTrujillo saidheknows suspect Harris andSUSpeCI Klebold, especially suspect Harris,because they were on a soccerteamtogether, SteveTrujillo said that he played00 the sameSOccer teamas EricHarris Unit
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Witness Trujillo said on 04-20-99, he was wearing a white undershirt with a grayvest over it, bluejeans and sandals. He said he does not remember leaving anything in the cafeteria before he ranout. However, he is not sure. He did say hisbrother, Eric Trujilloleft a blue "Arnercrombie" backpack with its contents inside of a mathclassroom.
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION: Witness Trujillo toldme that he bowlsat Belleview Lanes. locatedat Federal Blvd. and Belleview. He said studentsbowling need to be at the Belleview Lanes at 0615, and bowlingbeginsat 0630. He saidthere ate 18teams of howlersin this league with one of the teams having Dylan Klebold, Eric Harris,Chris Morris and NateDykeman as its teammembers. Witness Trujillo said on 04-2lJ.99, be didnot seeany of the suspects bowling at Belleview Lanes. He said it was not his team, however, that wasscheduled to bowl against the suspects team. Witness Trujillo saidhis schedule is to bowl until0730, then he goes home, gets ready for schooland arrives at Columbine High Schoolbetween 0820 and 0825. H. said he did not see either suspecton 04-2lJ.99, either at Belleview Lanes or at Columbine High School.
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INTERVIEW: Brittany Tyaee 7449 S. Kendall St, Littleton, CO 80123 (303) 973-6987 Subject: Columbine High SchoolShooting,
On 5/11/99 I interviewed Brittany Tyaeke at her home 7449 S. Kendall St. Brittany relatedthat she never saw any duffel bags in the cafeteria and she never saw anyone in possessionof any duffel bags around the school. Brittany said that she entered the cafeteria at approx, 11.l5AM and she stood neat table #L. Brittanyremembered that her friends, KatiePlace, Stephanie Duffy and Joe Marcott, along with a girl by the firstname of Kennywere all at table #L. Brittany said she heard gunshots and left through the west side cafeteria exit doors. Brittany said she ran to hilly area near a fence next to Pierce Blvd. She said a white male, 5-9 approx. 25yrs old withbrown or black hair, wearing a blue plaid shirt and bluejeans, stated"Look at thet explosion, look at all the stuff flying. Isn't that cool". Brittany's friend, DenayTaylor and Katie Placealso heard the guy make the comments. Brittanysaid she left her black fold overbackpackoutside the cafeteria area. Brittanysaid that she didn't observeanythingelse suspicious outside of the school. Brittanyalso relatedthat she didn't know any of the TeM and she never spoke wilh any of them. Brittany said she her friend, Jackie Bakersaid Sarah D was runningpast Jamie Schafnerand she told Jamie to run and Jamie told her "Shut the flickup" and the suspect's walkedrightpast her. Brittany also said "Someguy pulled her friend, Brittany Gillete aside and told her there was going to be anothershooting". Brittany didn't provideany furtherinformation aboutthe TeM or other suspects.
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STEFANIA ULowSKI 81123 W. Polk PI. Littleton, CO. 303.972-4267 05112199, 0830 hrs. Stefania Ulowski was interviewed by Detective S.C. Shott #72049 (DPD) at her home, 81123 W. Polk PI. Her mother, SandraUlowski, was present.
Ms. Ulowski stated that she attended school on the day of the incident; however, she was not sitting in the cafeteria at the time when incident OCCUIted. She said that at 1110 hrs she finished her fourth period class and walked over to the dollar golf cart to help her friend sell food items. Ms. Ulowski said that the cart sells food items for $ 1.00 and it is near the main entrance of the cafeteria and next to the Rebel Comer. Ms. Ulowski identified the friends that were with her as Samantha Haviland. Katelyn Whitney and Alan Barker. They were all at the cart for approximately live minutes when a janitor came by and said that someone had just been shot. She said that she did not hear any gunfire but realized that something was WTOng when students began running by in a panic. Ms. Ulowski said that she and her friends ran to the nearby lower level auditorium and hid there with other students. They then walked up to the upper level auditorium that is connected by a walkway. She said that there were about fifteen other students hiding in the area. While there, she heard what sounded like 5-8 gunshots. She and her friends then decided to leave the auditorium and run down a hallway and out of a door near the smoke pit. They then jumped the fence and ran to Clement Park. Ms. Ulowski said that she had a backpack with her at the time and left it at the chair where she was sitting by the food cart. She described her pack as being forest green in color and it contained misc. books, papers and a calculator. She did not see anyone enter the cafeteria with a duffel bag nor did she see one in or near the cafeteria. She does not know Eric Harris or DYlan Klebold or any of the reM members. She said that she recognized Harris only by sight and he always sat near the vending machines when he was in the cafeteria. She did not see him on the day of the incident and she could not recall if she saw him on the Monday before the incident.
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On May 12, 1999, this investigator met with Sarah Ungerland at her residence. Present during the interview was her mother, Denise Fenner. Sarah stated that on the day of this incident, she had completed completed her fourth hour class and arrived in the cafeteria at approximately 11,15 a.m .. She advised that she sat down at a table with her friends: Shannon Ryan, Casey Peregoy, Stephanie Wujcikowski and Tasle Olson. She was shown a sketch of the cafeteria and indicated an area in the Rebel Corner as where she had been . The backpack list has her backpack at the table marked ·C." That table is in the general area where Sarah thought she had been. Sarah said that she went to the far west end of the food counter, got her lunch and returned to her table. She stated that a few minutes later, students began running and she heard one of them say, • somebody' s got a gun." She said she saw Mr. Sanders in the cafeteria and he was telling everyone to get down under the tables. She said she also saw another teacher, Mr. Brookfield waving his arms in a downward motion. She stated that there was a group of 1
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getunderher tablebecauseshe did not knowwhat was going on, but said she moved to the edge of her seat. Angela said two to three teachers, one who was Mr. Sanders, ran through the cafeteria and toldthe students in thecafeteria to getdown and under the tables, and alsotoldthe students to stayawayfrom the windows. Angela saidsome students gotup to runandweretoldagain to gel down. Angela said by this time, Stephanie Larson had returned to the table, and when they saw the students running through the cafeteria, inan easterly direction, theygotup andranalso. Shesaidtheyranto an areathatshedescribed asa storage typeareaby a bathroom northof the stairway in the cafeteria thatleads to thesecond level of Columbine HighSchool. Angela saidwhile she wasin the areaof the cafeteria, she heard "twobombs" detonate from an unknown location, She saidshe didnot try to lookto see wherethe explosions came from
or what hadoccurred and kept goingawayfrom the cafeteria area. Angela
saidshe stoodwith Stephanie Larson in the areadescribed until a teacher, Mr. Andres, Sr., got the auditorium doors openand thenthey wentintotheauditorium. in the areaof the backstage. Sheestimated therewas a hundred to a hundred and fifty people in theauditorium. Angelasaid after beingin the auditorium, foran unknown lengthof time, the students ran from the stage, up the left side (while looking from the stage towardthe seats) through the audience sectionof the auditorium, then exitedthe auditorium intothe main hallway. Angela said she heardgunshots that she described as sounding "muffled" possibly coming from downstairs. She did notknow howmany gunshots she hadheard at thistime, however. Angela said the hall they went into wasnearthe main entrance of the school andshe saidfrom thislocation she couldsee the windows in the offices were goneand saidthey appeared to havebeen"blown out." Angela saidthestudents in thishall withher,backed up against the lockers, before OfficerSignature
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I showed Angela Urquhartthe photographs of the dufflebag and the propane tankthat were later recovered in the cafeteriaof Columbine High School. She said she did not see eitheritem priorto or duringthis incident. She said she did not notice anyone carryingitemssuch as these, prior t~ or duringthe incident either. Angelasaid she does not knowof anyone.nor has she heard
rumors of anyone. who may he manufacturing explosive devices and/or possessing firearms. Angel. Urquhart said that prior to this incidentshe did not know who Dylan Kleboldand Eric Harris were, and, in fact.did not know these names, She said she did not know anything aboutthe Trench Coat Mafia prior to this incidenteither. Angelasaid she has seen a group of students,most. but not all, wearing trench coats, gather under the stairway or in the hall near the stairs of the cafeteria. Sbe estimated she bas seen len studentsin this groupand said she had seen females in this groupalso. Angela said one of the male students in this group,on a regular basiswore a skirt. She did know his name,however. Shesaid another male in this group was seen with his fingernails painted black. Angela said it was her understanding some of the females associated withthis groupwere into witchcraft. Angelasaid shedid not see any students in this groupat Columbine HighSchool on 04-20-99.
Angela Urquhart said on 04·20-99, she saw the "Thought of the Day" on the Rehel News Network (RNN). She said it read "Today is not a good day to be here," but did not takethis as a threatand said she did not pay much attention to this message.
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there mayhave been more than two shooters involved on 04-20-99. Angela saidthat another mend ofhers, Latisha Richards, heardan unknown female say that she wouldhave datedDylan Klebold or Eric Harris "in a minute," and 0.1.0 said thai: if she would have been present at Columbine HighSchool on04-20-99, she would havefinished thejob. It is unknown whothisfemale
is and it is unknown at this time if Latisha Richards has been interviewed by taw enforcement Angela Urquhart said that she hadRobyn Anderson in herthirdhouraccounting class at Columbine HighSchool. Angela said RobynAnderson and Robyn's boyfriend at that time, Pat McDuffy, sat behind her in this class, Apparently, Robyn Anderson and PatMcDuffy brokeup and Angela said shecouldhearthem arguing. She saidRobynAnderson wouldbecome very angry ....ith PatMcDuffy duringthesearguments. Angela saidshewould alsohearRobyn Anderson and PatMcDuffy talkto eachother at times in German, Angelasaid she did not hearany conversations aboutNazism, Hitler,etc.. nor did she see any tattoos or clothing insignias that may possibly indicate such beliefs by Robyn Anderson and/or Pat McDUffy,
Angela Urquhart said on Monday, 04-19-99, whilein thisaccounting class, shecould hear RobynAnderson talking about how she hadgoneto the prom the pest weekend with DylanKlebold. Angela did not bear what Robyn Anderson saidaboutgoing to theprom with Dylan Klebold or anyspecifics otherthan Robyn and Dylan hadgonetogether. Angela saidonTuesday, 04-2099, the dayof the shooting, RobynAnderson was not present in tlris accounting class and wasabsent,
Angela Urquhart said whileattending Chatfield High School on Wednesday, 05-19-99, she sawBrooks Brown with an unknown female in the hallway, Angela said although that she has nn specifics of the conversations from the students, she has heardat various times, aboutBrooksBrown beinginvolved with Dylan Klebold and EricHartis. She believes, as doesa large number of students atColumbine HighSchool that~as fully involved with Dylan Klebold and EricHartis in thisincident.
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LAKEWOOD POllCE DEPARTMENT SUPPI.EMENTAL REPORT AEPORTING AGENT: KARLA SARNACKI CASE NUMBER: 99.38856 VICTIM: COLUMBINE HIGH SCHOOL DATE OF REPORT: 04.29-99 OFFENSE: AOA/COLUMBINE HIGH SCHOOl. TASK FORCE! JEFFCO SHERIFF'S OFFICE
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DYLAN KLEBOLO WITNESS; INFORMATION CONTROl. NUMBER: ON1904, FBI: 114A-DN-51419, JCSO; CR#99-162S, TEAM 4, CAFETERIA WITNESSES, COI.UMBINE HIGH SCHOOl.
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On 04-29-99, at 1550 hoursI interviewed Timothy Vacca inthe presence of hisfatherat his home Timothy stated he drovehimselfto schoolthe morning of 04-20·99 and parked in Clement Park, He arrived between 0705 and 0710 hours, He stated he saw nothing unusual outside the school or inside the school between classes, Timothy did not know HARRIS or KLEBOLD, not even by sight He also did not know anyone in their group, the 'trench coat mafia', He stated he could tell who was in the group by the way they dressed and he described it as dark, gothic style clothing, He stated he came into the cafeteria from the stairsarriving at approximately 1105 hours, He stated he was early and the cafeteria was just beginning to fiU up, He stated he did not see anything unusual in the cafeteria, slatingthat it's verytypicalfor students to leave theirbackpacks neara table andgo get inlina Timothy stated he left his backpack which he indicated on the attached diagram Timothy circled table "HH" as the one he sal at withhis friends whichhe listed on the diagram, He also showed whereeachonewas sittingat the table, Timothy stated it was approximately 1125 hourswhenthe commotion began, He stated what caught his attention was a group of four kicls ran east through the cafeteria, He then saw Mr, Sanders run east through the
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cafeteria yelling for everyone to get down. He said kids started to get downon thefloor starting from the westside of the cafeteria and everyone got downas it appeared like a wave spreading across the cafeteria He then heard some pops and thoughtthat it was a senior prank. He then saw smoke in the parking lot out the west windows of the cafeteria. He stated kids started to scream and he and others at the table decided to run
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Nathan Vanderau, Date of Birth, December 9, 1981, 8031 South Lamar Street, Littleton, Colorado 80128, telephone number (303)971-0536, was interviewed in the presence of and at the residence of Arthur and Becky Stienberger, 8972 West Ida Place, Littleton, Colorado 80123. After being advised of the identity of the interviewing Agents, and the nature of the interview, Vanderau furnished the following information: Vanderau is a Junior at Columbine High School. His lunch hour starts at 11:15 a.m. on April 20, 1999, during his lunch hour he was seated at a table along the west windows of the cafeteria. The table was approximately thirty to thirty-five feet from the northwest dOor and there were a couple of tables between his table and the door. Vanderau was half done eating his lunch when the windows of a car outside exploded in the Senior Lot. Eve~one in the cafeteria stood up to look out the windows. Vanderau saw two individuals outside of the school. One individual he saw only from the waist up was dressed in a White shirt and blue jeans. This person was throwing something in a side arm motion up towards the school roof. Vanderau saw him throw one or two items. The second individual Vanderau got a glimpse of was dressed in black and was taller than the other person. Vanderau did not recall any describers for the two individuals other than they were white males. A teacher came in the door by vanderau's table and told eve~body to get down and get upstairs. This teacher was Mr. Sanders and he was holding his arm and may have been shot. Vanderau began crawling on his stomach towards the stairs on the opposite side of the cafeteria. He got behind a pillar when he heard three gunshots that sounded like a muffled .38 special. Vanderau saw a glimpse of a gunman come through the door that Mr. Sanders used to enter the cafeteria. Based on the gunman's clothing and a quick glimpse of his face, Vanderau believes the gunman was Dylan Klebold. Vanderau had seen Klebold walking around the school dressed in a trench coat. Vanderau knew Klebold was in a group of students that went to prom together. Vanderau's friend, Jessica Hughs, was part of that group. JC.001.004677 Investigation on
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After hesitating at the pillar he continued to the stairs leading to the second floor. As he was going up the stairs he looked up and over his shoulder to the second floor. He saw a fire burst from the balcony area that overloOKs the stairs by the library. The girl next to him fell, but he believes she was able to get back up. Vanderau could not see any individual or gu."l that may have caused the fire burst. At the top of the stairs he turned left and entered the auditorium. In the auditorium, Vanderau heard several gunshots coming from an area that would have been behind the back stage of the aUditorium. He proceeded out the set of doors on the far side of the auditorium, turned right and headed to the front door of the sohool. As he was running down the hall he ran into a friend named Charlie LNU who is also a Junior at Columbine High School. As Charlie LNU reached for the door at the front of tha school the glass shattered. Vanderau doesn't know if the glass was shot out or what caused the shattering. Vanderau then ran through the teacher's lot towards Clement Park and the Pavilion. At the Pavilion he saw Kenny Rupt a friend of his brother. Mr. Kiki Leyba, an English teacher at Columbine High School, was in his car and told the boys to keep on running. Vanderau kept on running and at the intersection of Pierce and the street that Leawood Elementary is on, he ran into Gary Morris. They then saw Bill Graaber's cousin. Vanderau does not recall the name of the female cousin. The cousin and her friend, possibly named Kristen, drove Vanderau and Morris to Morris' parent's house. Vanderau then called his parents and shortly after that Morris' father came home. Justin Wilson, telephone number (303)730-1956 is a freshman at Columbine High School. Wilson had been collecting attendance and told Vanderau he saw someone run from the front door area toward the back of the school as the fire alarm was going off. Bill Greaber also a student at Columbine High School was in the Tech Lab near a window and saw a guy run from the front door or upper commons area towards the back of the school as the fire alarm was going off. Vanderau believes the fire alarm doors shut and lock as the alarms go off. The doors are made of steel.
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05/19/99, 0930 hrs. Nathan Vanderau was interviewed at his home by Detective S.C. Shott #72049 (DPD). This was a follow up interview; his first interview was on 04122199. Nathan SUIted that he attended his 4lb period trigonometry class that gOI out at 1110 hrs, He walked directly to the cafeteria where he met his friends for lunch. He identified the peoplesitting at the table with him as Chris Markim. Jamie Amo, Christian Cardwell and Denette Mussleman, Nathan pointed to table 5S on the seating chart as to where they were sitting at on the day of the incident Nathan stated that he was unaware that there was something going on until a student yelled out that there was a fight outside. Everyone stood up and looked outside and at that time. he observeda gray colored Honda in the parking lot with its windows broken out. Nathan said that moments later, Mr. Sanders J:lIl1 by holding his arm or shoulder and was telling everyone to get down under the tables. Everyone ducked under the tables and at that time several gunshots were heard. Nathan said that he started to crawl to the main entrance of the cafeteria and stopped at one point to hide by a pillarneat table EE. While doing so, he observedDylan Klebold walk into the cafeteria through the door neat the teachers lounge and vending machines. He was the only personstanding up and he was walking around like he was in charge. He did not see a gun or any other type of weapon; however. he believed that Dylan was involvedin some wayby the way he was walking around. Nathan said that he could not recall how Dylan was dressed. Nathan said that he bolted out the main cafeteria door with other students and ran to the lowerlevel part of the auditorium and hid. He thenheard gunshots that sounded like they were coming from behind the stage so he ran from the auditorium past the gym then J:lIl1 out of the northwestdoor. He continued running until he got to ClementPark. Nathan said that he does not know Eric Harris personally but knows him by sight and knew that he belonged to the Trench Coat Mafia. He said that he personally knows Dylan Klebold and has known him for sometime. They once belonged in the same church youth group. Nathan said that he usually kept away from the TCM types because they were weird and they made him nervous. He did not see either Eric or Dylan on the day before or on the day of the incidentwith the exceptionof Dylan when he walked into the cafeteriaat the start of the incident.
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RE: CONTROL # 3744l SOURCE: JllliOl1 Duff LEAD: Re·interview Nathan Vanderau about bis having beenIllIkillg about". bomb in • ttlUIh can"on 041999.
TELEPHONE INTERVlEW: V ANDERAU, NathanJames (OOB:120981)
8031 S. Lamar Street Littleton, CO 80128 (303)971-0536 05-24-99 13:OOpm
Afterreviewing two related interviews of Nathan Vanderau completed by Investigators Steve Sholl (lead DN#311l) and JohnEIvig (lead DN#32) I determined the information regarding his havingtalked about a bomb in a trash can had not yet been addressed. I then telephoned VANDERAU and discussed the reported information. VANDERAU appealedsurprised whenaskedabout his havingmentioned a "bomb in a trash can on April 19th." I brieflyspoke with him about the reportand VANDERAU continued to deny anykouwledge of this, as well as was adamant that he had nevermentioned anything that mighthavebeenconstrued as such. I then spokewith Investigator Gee, whom had originated this lead. Shesaid she recalled Jason DUFF had told her he had only heard this third handas a "rumor." He could not recall from whomhe had heardthis. Due to the information not matching the general information kouwn aboutthe incident, and that the lead wasbased on an apparent unsubstantiated rumor, the lead was not investigated further. VANDERAU's denial of anyrelated knowledge was accepted as truthful.
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Littleton. CO. 303.972.3880 05113199. 1000 hrs, Laura Vander Hamm was interviewed by Detective S.C. Shott #72049 (UPD) at the home at 5950 W. Coal Mine Rd. Her mother. Judith Vander Hamm was present and sat in during the interview.
Ms. Vander Hamm stated that she had completed her 4th period choir class at 1110. brs and walked to the ~eteria with frie~. who she identified as Anne Marie Patralca(Sara Kane, Sara Holton, Cbristina Rower and another girl she did not know by name. Using the seating chart on the diagram, she pointed out table LL as the place she and her friends were sitting prior to the incident. 5-10 minutes later, she saw several boys ron into the cafeteria from outside and at the same time she heard one of the teachers yell for everyone to duck under the tables. A janitor was walked by and made sure that everyone was down. While under the table, she heard what sounded like gunshots. an explosion and people screaming. Everyone started running towards her table then out the door. Ms. Vander Hamm said that she and her friends followed suit and ran from the cafeteria by jumping over a rail that was under the stairway. They then ran up the stairs with other students, passed the library then down a hallway that led to an exit on the opposite end of the school. She said that while running down the hallway she heard several gunshots coming from behind her. She said that once outside, a teacher instructed them to keep going and leave the school grounds. She and her friends jumped a fence. ran across Pierce St. then stopped when they got to Leawood Park. Ms. Vander Hamm said that she did not see anyone shooting a gun or see any of the students who were wounded. She did not see a duffel bag in the cafeteria prior to the shooting nor did she see anyone carry one in. She does not know Eric Harris or Dylan Klebold personally but she knew them by sight only. She did not see either of them on the day of incident or the day before. Ms. Vander Hamm said that when she fled the cafeteria, sbe left her backpack on the floor next to the chair where she was sitting. She described her pack as an Eddie Bauer tan in color with leather straps. The pack contained misc. schoolbooks and papers.
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Patrick Robert Vassar, DOB 08/16/1983, 7542 South Saulsbury Court, Littleton, Colorado, telephone {303}933-9341, a freshman at Columbine High School, was interviewed at his home in the presence of his parents, Bob and carla Vassar, by Special Agent {SA} Ricky V. W:right regarding the incident that took place on 04/20/1999 at Columbine High School. After being advised as to the identity of the interviewing agent and the nature of the interview, Vassar provided the follOWing information: At 11,10 am, Vassar got out of his fourth period science class taught by Ms. Mosier and proceeded from the science department directly to the cafete:ria. Once in the cafeteria, Vassar went directly to the lunch line and got his lunch. Vassar then sat down at a cafeteria table (marked FF on the diagram sketch}. Other students seated at the same table were Kyle Hayes, Alex Schlosse, Zach Cobb, Tim Miller, Chris Donnelly, Austin Stechler, and Jeff Morroni. Vassar was seated at the table facing west. Kyle Hayes was seated next to Vassar, but Vassar cannot recall whether Hayes was seated on his left or right side. At approximately 11,15 am, immediately after Vassar sat down with his lunch, he saw four or five individuals in black walking away from the school. Everyone in the group was wearing trenchcoats, except one, who was wearing camouflage pants. When Vassar saw the group, they were 200-300 feet away from the building. They appeared to have come out of the main entrance on the west side of the school. The group was walking abreast on a path that leads away from that entrance. Vassar could not describe them further and did not recognize any of them. At approximately 11:20 am, Mr. Sanders ran in from the cafeteria from the exit by the teachers lounge and told everyone to get down. Almost everyone in the cafeteria got down, but some ran to the windows to see what was going on, After about three minutes under the tables, Vassar looked up and saw a bomb go off in the parking lot about 100 feet away from the building to the west of the cafeteria. Vassar did not know where the bomb came from. No one seemed to be around the explosion. Someone was driVing near the explosion in the parking lot in a blue pickup truck with a black shell. The truck was driven by a male who
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Subject: Columbine High School Shooting, On 5/12199 I interviewed Phillip WllIDJlet' at bis residence. Phillip related that he entered the cafeteria area at 11.15AM and he sat at table DDor 55 with Tun Mulchy, Eric Sunday, JohnFriel:, Bo Lockwood, JesseGonzalez and Shawn and Jamie withunknown lastnames. Phillip said he camefrom his mathclass. Phillip said he didn't see the duffel bags or anyone carrying the hags in or around the cafeteria area. Phillipsaid he left his backpack at the table where he wassitting. Phillip said he heardsomeone yelling get down andhe thought it wasjust a fight Phillip said he heard 4-5 gun shots coming from the second floor but he didn't see the shooters or anyone getting shot. Phillip said he ran up the stairs and down a hallway and the out an exitdoor. Phillip said he didn't seeany TCM members or associates in the cafeteria areaor outside of theschool priorto and after the incident. Phillip said he never associated withthe TCM and he hasn't heard any rumors about whathappened otherthan his friend, EricSunday saying that he saw a gunmen coming into the cafeteria areaand that he saw them upstairs.
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