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Jacob statedthat once he reached the table he placedhi' backpack on top of the table, basically saving his seat at the table. at whichtimehe went to the food service tine. Afterpickingup his foodand returning to the table.Jacob statedthat he was facing westand could see out the west windows of the cafeteria. He describes hearing a loud explosion. whichcame from the parking lot,then describes a large "ploom" of smoke coming from a cat. stating that he believed it was sometype of car bombing Shortly afterhearingthis. he remembers seeing the teacher, DaveSanders. come running in the northwestdoors of the cafeteria. telling the studentsto get down under their tables.
Jacoowasasked ifhe could recall who else was sitting at the table with himduringthis incident. He stated that Chris Donnally. telephone numbet(303) 972·8086. Tim Miller. telephone number (303) 979-0720, Jeff Morrani, telephonenumber unknown. Pat Vassar, telephone number (303) 933·9341, Kyle Hayes, telephone number (303] 979·0856. Austin Steckler, telephone number (J03) 933·1502, and John Stroble,telephone number unknown. werealsoseatedat thetable, Jacob describes that while bewason the floor,under his table, they startedto hear gunfire comingfrom outsidethe building,at which time studentsstarted to exit from the cafeteria. He statedthatas he was leaving he remembers grabbing his backpack and h. startedto runeast towards the stairsout of the cafeteria As be went up thestairs to the main level of the school,he remembers that he startedrunningdown the east hall near the mam rooms..way from melibnu:y. Jacob staredthat in the mass confusion he was pushedand he fell ro the ground. After h. picked himself up off the floor he proceeded downone of the halls near the math rooms where he entered the math roomjust to the east ofMs McWilliams' room Also in the math room Was a seudenr by the name of Mike Kellogg. and another unidentified male.
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I askedJacob ifhe saw any gunmanwhile he was in Columbine HighSchool. He stated he did not. 1also reconfirmed that he did not see the two duffle hags or sports bags that I describedearlier, which were located in the cafeteria.
Jacobwasasked lfhe knew Eric Hartisor DylanKlebold. He stared he did not knowthose individuals and he did not know an; othermembers who associated themselves with the "TrenchCoatMaf a,·' I askedif there were any rumorsheardat schoolwhich would reference anything was going to occur on April 20th. He stated that he did not hear anything and had no additional information to provide. Jacob was also asked if he knew that Eric Harris had a web site. He stated he did not. and again told me h. didn't know much about the individuals at all.
Jacobwas asked to describe hi, dress on the incident date. He stated he was wearinga black and brownish gold flannel shirt,
khaki carpenter jeans, and he had whitetennis 'hoes on. Jacobwasasked ifhe leftany other additional items at the school other than hi' backpack. H. stated h. did not.
Aftercompleting my interview withJacob, [had him document wherehe was seatedin the cafeteria and his exit route out of the school. A copy of that map is anached to thi' supplementalreport.
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Priorto leavingJacob's residence.I askedhis motherand his step-father if they hadany questionsor any additional inferrnauon fer me. Sheryl Coalman proceeded to tell me aboutsomeindividuals that livedirectly behindthemto the west. [demit} ing them as the Sowder's. in particularJonathon and Melissa, who both attendColumbine High School. She stated that she was talking with a neighbor.Bionca Thompson, who lives at 5235 West Portland Drive, Littleton, Colorado,telephonenumber(03) 979· 7370. on Sunday, April 25, 1999 Sheryl Coolman statedthat Bionca Thompson toldher thatneitherJonathon or Melissa Sowder Ul1it
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On 06-17-99, at about 10'25 a.m., Irelephoned HenckeIII his resid"""e,J03-979-0075. concerningthe incident thatoccurred at Columbine High School on 04-20-99,
Hencke Stated that he was in the cafeteriaof the Columbine High Schoolat 11:10a.m, on 04-20-99. Hencke stated that he was with Jeff Sarrett, Steven Poole,and Malt Connelly. Hinckestated that they were seated in the first row of table' by the serving dne. but could not rememberexactly which table.
Hencke stated that after about ten minutesat approximately l l :20,he hearda teacher, MI. Sanders, come intothe cafeteria and yell to students to get down, at which time they did. Hencke stated that aller a few minutes, there was a mad rush for the stairways that lead towardthe librarv to whichthey all proceeded to followeach other Henckestaled that they ran toward the auditorium, then near the gym and exited the north westside of tho school,believedto be in the An Department area, Hencke stated thatthey ran toward Clement Park to theare. where the students parkedthat are not allowed to park on school ground, Hencke stated that he heard two to three gunshotswhilehe was in tbe cafeteria. burdid not see any individual sheering.nor did he see anybody in trench CO.lS th.t day.
Henckestated that just prior to leaving, he heardthe fire alarm goign off in the shcool.
Henckestated that he had no further information concerningthe incidentat Columbine High School.
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WHEN INTERVIEWED: MAY 14, 1999 10:30 a.llI. Telepboee inecould recall, of whatbe did and saw 00 April 20, 1999. Hes_ tbatbis modler. Linda, amViltg jus, l>etbte lst pened, drove !lim to scbooi, His f!nIt class was gym. foUowed by Engli'h in the Langu.... Arts willg. _ t i c s ter the 3" period and Spanish fot 4" period,
He then weartn A Lunch ill the cafeie ria. He sal near tile Rebel store(around TableB) with llen JOHNSON, DavidSCHULTE, and MATT fRm!ID, 'rbere were two tal>les of llis friends in tbat area. He left llisbackpack 00 the ledgewhen he exited!lie cafeloria _ lbe incident'- The firstthing unusual tbat be"""""""'" is wilenMan FRlEND got up, If« at firsttllought tbat. fighlllad broken out when be beard sccecee sa)' that there was someone with a gun. Jason HENSLEY gut uodef a tll1>le wben in"""'ted by a janitor, If« Was Iltlder the table fur oolya very shorttimewilen be and BenJOHNSON I'llIl out tlIe door by the Rcllel '10" and into the parking lot, He staled that It wasnet !lie seniorparkinglot til.. tIley ranl!lrough, but tile lot adj..ent10!lie ..m",·, lot, He rae to a near house.
He neve, sawme two largeduffel bag, ot anyon. cartyillg !heminto me cafeteria. Hedoes nee know anyof the members of tile TCMnor would lierecogaize tile... He I.ft behind!ti' blue backpaok on the westledgewinch contlined Ins malb. Spanisll vocabulaly and assignment books, • calculator and various folders.
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7702 W. Ottawa pl. Littleton, CO., 80127 303/904-3516 CBS stuctent, cafeteria witness. On May 17, 1999, this investigator met with llrianna. Hernanctez at her resictence. Present cturing the interview was her mother. Brianna advised that on the day of the incident. she arrived in the cafeteria at approximately 11,15 a.m. having come from her residence as she had no fourth hour class. She was shown a sketch of the cafeteria and indicated that she had been seated at the table marked ·U.· She said others at her table were, Gina Rohde and Sarah Roasberry. She had only first names for the following: Sarah, Nichole, Emily, and Veronica. She stated that she observed no unusual activity in the cafeteria. She went over to the vending machines and that is when she first heard some noise which she was unahle to identify. She said at that point, Mr. Sanders. who was by the service counter was telling everyone there to get ctown. Brianna said that she then heard what she thought was a gunshot coming from outside the cafeteria, possibly by the courtyard. She statect that she saw Dusty 1
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• l.AKEWOOD PoueE DEPARTMENT SUPPLEMENTAL REPORT RlPORTING AGENT: DITECTIVE KARlA SARNACKI CASE NUMBER: 99.38856 VICTIM: COLUMBINE HIGH SCHOOL DATE OF REPORT: 05/19/99 rENSE: AOA/COLUMBINE HIGH SCHOOL TASK FORCE/JEFFCO SHERIFF'S OFFICE INFORMATION CONTROL NUMBER: DN2710. FBI: 174A.DN57419. JCSO; CR #99.7625
SUBJECT:
Hill, Matthew
WfM dob: 12/17/82
7812 West GlasgowPlace Litttletcn, CO 80128 303·948·8275
Pam Hill
(mother)
7812 West GlasgowPlace Littleton, CO 80128 303-948·8275 303-794-2020 (wk)
Greg Hill
(Father)
7812 West GlasgowPlace Littleton, CO 80128 303-948-8275 303-978-0615 x224 (wk)
OBSERVATIONIINVESTIGATION: On 5113/99, at 0930 hours, I interviewedMatthew Hill at his home. I had previously obtained permission from his mother.
Matthew stated he drove to school and parked in ClementParkon 4120/99. He arrived between 0745 and 0750
hours and entered the school through the main entrance, He stated he saw nothing unusual going on outside. Matthewstated he had seen Kleboidand Harris around the schoolbefore, but he did not know them. He was Page 1 of 3
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tAKlWOOD POUCE DEPARTMENT SUPPLEMENTAL REPORT REPORTING AGENT: DETECTIVE KARLA SARNACKI CASE NUMBER: 99-38856 VICTIM: COLUMBINe HIGH SCHOOL DATE OF REPORT: 05/19/99 'fENSE: AOA/COLUMBINE HIGH SCHOOLTASK FORCE/JEFFCO SHERIFF'S OFFICE INFORMATION CONTROL NUMBER: DN271 0, FBb 174A-PN57419. JC$O: CR '99-7625
awareof the trench coat mafia group. He staled he did not see Kleboldor Harris at all that day. He statedthe TCM's usually hang out in the cafeteria in one certain area, but he was not sure if they Were there that day or not
Matthewhas Spanish for his first hour class, he is a student assistant in the main office for his second hour class, English for his third hour class, and Science for his fourth hour class. He stated he entered the cafeteria at approximately 1112 hours by walking down the stairs. He statedhe went immediately to the lunch line and got his food, and then sat down. Matthew indicatedon the attached diagram the route that he took to the cafeteria, and that he sat at table F. He stated approximately three minutes later, a friend by the name of Ben Saumann walked over and told them that someone hadjust got shot outside. He stated Ben was very serious aboutthis. He then heard some "pops" and half of the cafeteria got down on the floor.
Matthew stated thejanitor ran along the south end of the cafeteriayelling for everybodyto get down! He heard more pops and then people started to run fromthe west end of the cafeteria to the east. He stated some of them were slidingon the floor on their stomachs. He stated kids started to jump over tables and over other peopleand there was a panicked atmospherein the cafeteria.
Matthewstated that as he was going upstairs he heard gunfire hit the railings around the stairs. He stated he thoughtthe gunmen were shooting towards the group goingupstairs, as bullets hit the mural that is on the wall of the stairway.
Matthew stated that once he got to the upper level, he began to walkdown the hallwayeastbound. He statedhe becamecalm at this point and didn't feel like anything was going 10 happento him. I asked if there was a reason for this and he that he felt that God was with him and would keep him safe. He then told me that he is a religious person. Page 2 of 3
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LAKEWOOD POLlCE DEPARTMENT SUPPLEMENTAL REPORT REPORTING AGENT: DETECTIVE KARLA SARNACKI CASE NUMBER: 99·38856 VICTIM: COLUMBINE HIGH SCHOOL DATE OF REPORT: 05/19/99 FENSE: AOA/COLUMBINE HIGH SCHOOL TASK FORCE/JEFFCO SHERIFPS OFFICE INFORMATiON CONTROL NUMBER: DN2710. FBI: 174A.DN57419, JCSO: CR #99.7625
He stated On his way out, be beard a lot ofspontaneous "pops". He left out of the building through the southeast door, upperlevel, and went to LeawoodPark. He stated he was in the park for five to ten minutes. H. heard more gunfire and teacherstold the group to get further away from the school. H. slated he was out there for approximately four hours.
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remember who it was. He had no idea if it was a maleor female. Matthewalso did not know what the thought the day was.
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Docket N\1ml:ler, Ca.e Number, 9911.062 Investigator, DOYLE, PJ
FBI CASE 174A DN-57419 WITNESS CONTROL NdMBER 1632 JCSD CASE 99-7625
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Travis went to the seminary. Other people were there. Chris Stafford, another student, a junior, was at the seminary school. Chris's 5th hour class is at the seminary and he was there during the shooting. Travis said that he was in the seminary about 3 hours, give or take a half hour. Travis said that the name of TCM was giVen to the group by He said that the other kids because of the trench coats they wore. 'l'CM just sort of adopted the name. I spoke briefly with Sharon Hill, Travis's mether. She didn't remember where she heard it, but she heard that orie of the wounded boys saw 4 to 5 kids taking bombs out of their back packs and throwing them around. She had no further information. Team Four guideline questions attached to this report. Also attached is a diagram of the cafeteria and a hand drawn diagram. 3
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Erin Powell Hoffman, DOB 04/08/1984, 6565 West Hoover Place, Littleton, Colorado, telephone (303)795-8457, was interviewed at her home in the presence of her parents, Raina Powell and Monty Hoffman by Special Agent(SA) Ricky V. Wright regarding the incident that took place on 04/20/1999 at Columbine High School. After being advised as to the identity of the interifiewing agent and the nature of the interview Hoffman provided the following information, I
At approximately 11:10 am, Hoffman got out of English class and proceeded to her locker, locker #1090. From her locker, Hoffman went to the cafeteria. Hoffman's lunch time officially started at ~1,~5 am. Hoffman set her green Jansport bookbag at the lunchroom table (marked EE on diagram sketch) and then went to the cafeteria restroom. When she returned from the restroom, she sat down at the table to talk to her friends. Hoffman was sitting at the table with her back to the kitchen. Hoffman car.Ilot remember everyone who was sitting at the table, but does remember that Kim Anderson, Jamie Klement, Kristin Cardwell, and Elizabeth Nolan were at her table. Cardwell set her book bag to Hoffman's right, but was in line at the kitchen when the commotion started. Hoffman does not remember if anyone was sitting to her left. Shortly after she sat down, Hoffman heard William Sanders yell for everyone to get down. Sanders was crouched just outside the teachers lounge. Hoffman did not know what was wrong, but got under the table. Everyone else got down as well and those students who were closest to the windows started craWling away. Hoffman remembers seeing Nathan Vauderau crawl by her table. Everyone stayed d.own for less than a minute and then got up and started screaming and running in all directions. Some of the students ran down the foreign language hall and others ran into the auditorium. Hoffman ran up the stairs to the main level and then ran down the hall toward the math hall, which is in the apposite direction of the library. While running Hoffman could. hear shots being fired from somewhere outside the cafeteria by the teachers lounge.
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He is a sophomore at Columbine High.
• When asked about Eric Harris, he said that he has never seen him before and did not know his name. The same went for Dylan Klebold. • He has heard of and thought he was a student associated with the trench coat students. He also thought he waS the one who always wore a green beret. He described the wearer of the green beret as a white male, 6', 160, thin with brownish-blond 1
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"Trenoh Coat Mafia" before and !le Would see them hanging out in
• He said a friend of his named Greg Sarns told him that two or three trench coat students missed a class he had with them on the day of the Shooting. • When asked if he saw any of the trench coat students or the students whose names are mentioned above at the school the day of the shooting he said no. ...
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duffle bags. • After his 4th hour math class, 11'10 a.m., he went to his locker nearby and then down the stairs to the cafeteria, He dropped his backpack off at a table. He lacked at the diagram and thought it was table JJ. (This matched the location his pack was found,1 He then went to Rebel Corner for a soda. He came back to the table and sat there for lunch wit.h; Joey Millazo, Josh Bushman, 1?at SillUltington, Brad 1?esicka, Ryan lizzie, Mike Lea.ry and Dominic Deaaveio. • He said around 11,20 II!. m. four kids came running in t.he west door t.o the cafeteria. and said that, "Someone got shot." He said teachers started to ;run around telling everyone to get down. Be said Mr. Sanders ran in front of the lunch line frolll the west and over to the stairs.
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• lie got down by his table and saw smoke out in the parking lot to the west. •
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serious, He then walked to the east side, FIe was with there were a lot of people the kitchen. They then were big explosions. Smoke was
• They stayed in the kitchen for a few minutes and then crawled west through the kitchen to the west cafeteria door. He said that 10 minutes had passed by then. they had to step over a wounded boy who was on his stomach in the doorway. He saw two more wounded kids in the area of the bottom of the outside stairs to the hill. They went up the stairs and saw another wounded kid up by the •
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top of the stairs. • They ran up the hill and encountered a cop who told them to run They eventually ended up in Clement back south through the lot. Park. • He heard several gunshots while in the kitchen. He smelled gunpowder. He knew this smell as he is an avid hunter.
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On April 28, 1999 I was assigned to interview Lacey Marie Hohn. Lacey is a student at Columbine and was possibly in the cafeteria at the time of the shootings. Also Lacey may have seen the shooters. I contacted Ms. Candy Fisher, Lacey's mother, and made ~~ appointment to interview her en April 29, 1999 at 1000 hours. On April 29th at 0950 hours I arrived at 6342 South Spotswood Street and conducted the interview with Lacey Hohn. Lacey said that she had been in the cafeteria on April 20th. She continued to say that she arrived in the cafeteria at about ll:OO&~. She advised that sh.e was sitr:ing at one of the tables: identified as lIP!!! j~O!\, "Y'", or HZ" she was not exactly sure, but thought she was seated at: the table identified as 1l0t! on the diagram marked HOHN~. Lacey continued 1;.0
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Lacey said that they went into the 9)~ where the girls dance combo was and then hid i~ the wrsstling room for about five minutes. They then exieed the schoel by way of ehe weight room, She ran into Clement park where she located her sister PerillY. They waited for a friend Ca=rie, and when Car=ie arrived they all got i~~o S7an car and drove Evi~IS friends (Willi house. Lacev did net ~~ow ~,an or Wills last name. She said thae Carrie said she (Carrie) had walked out of the wesc ma~n level deor on her way t.o the ~1 smokers pit when she walked by two of the shooters who were about ready to en~er the schocl. Lacey advised chat she believes that Dylan walked up the outside stairs from the cafeteria enterance to the west, nc=~h hall enterance. and from ~hera he and the second 5hoo~er en~ared che school. Lacey continued to say thac Carrie said one of the shocters, she walked by, was wearing a white t-shirt ~~d the second one was wea~i~g a black trench coat and had a gun in his belt Car~ie related she thought the gun was a toy. ~acey identified Carrie as CARR!E KLfl.PPER she also provided a phone number of (303) 973-9241 for Carrie. Lacey identi:ied t~ of the girls she met in the gym as Jessica Sones and Erin Brickl~y, Lacey also stated ~hat she believed that the school p~i~cipal was also standing in the ~jrn hall> l
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FBI174A·DN·57419 . JCSO 99.7625 Detective: MarkAllen - Denver Police Department 1(303) 640-1183 RE: CONTROL#2715 INTERVIEW: Patrick Hurne 8144 S. Quay WY. Littleton, CO 80123 (303) 979-6411 Subject: Columbine High School Shooting, On 5117199 I interviewed Patrick Harne at his residence withhis motherpresent Patrick reported that he entered thecafeteria at approx, 11.lSAM and be left his backpack at
table BBor W and he thenwentto !helunch line. Patrick said JohnOwens, Tony Hassman were at his table. Patrick said he heard a loudexplosion whilebe was standing in thelunch line, He saidpeople started running through the cafeteria yelling for everyone to get down. Patrick said he croucbed down underthe counterat the serving line. Patrick saidhe ranup the stairsand then out the main entrance, and then he ran ICl Clement Parle. Patrick said he didn't see anyTCMor associates in or around the cafeteriabefore or after the incident Patrick said he wasn'tfriends with theTCMor theirassociates. Patrick said he didn't see the duffel bagsor anyone carrying the bags in or around the cafeteria. Patrick said that while he wasrunning out of the school be met up withhis friend's Mark Chrismer and WillBeckand theysaid that theysawthe shooters outside . Patrick had no further relevant information at this time.
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** UPDATED APRlL 28, 1999 ** TEAMFOUR INTERVIEW GUIDELINE l\HNIMAL QUESTIONS TO BE ASKED l.
Didyouever see the two large duffel bags in the cafeteria?
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4. Didyoul.a'" anything ilell.ind in tile car"",ria or anywhere else itI tile scbccl ? ~~ 1311< '$Al"P~
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8. "What were you weat.ng? Did you have a. back pack? What did it looklikeand I or nave in it ?
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Date:
174A-DN57419 CN2031
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CHS student, was in the cafeteria. May 5, 1999. this investigator met with Michael Huntington at his residence. Present during the interview were his parents, Kathy and Kerry Huntington. On
Michael stated that he arrived in the cafeteria at approximaeely 11:05 a.m., having come from his fourth hour class which is off-campus. He said he had walked from that class, held in a house near the school and did noe see anything unusual outside. He was shown a diagram of the cafeteria and was asked to indicate which table he had been seated at. He advised that he was noe SUre of the exact table, so he circled tables 'M' and ""BB." He said that others at his table included: Daniel Granger, Spencer Wright, Aaron wright, Casey Jacklyn, and Seth Dubois. Michael advised that shOrtly after sitting down, he heard what he thought could have been gunshots coming from outside the cafeteria, from the northwest. He said that there were a number of shots hut could not say with any certainty, the number of shots. He 1
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did believe that the shots were not in quick succession. He said there was some time l:>etween each shot. He said he then heard someone yell "get down." He did not know who that person was. He said that he ran through the cafeteria and then up the stairs to a hallway that goes east, in between the social studies area and the math area, He exited the school and ran into Clement Park. He recalled that while he had been running up the cafeteria stairs, he heard five gunshots which were in rapid order. He could not determine where they came from. Michael was unable to provide any further information. Investigation continues.
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Docket Nu:lllI:>er,
Date, 5/6/99 CONTROL NUMBER, 1752
FBI # 174A-DN-57419 Invest1gator, Vondenkarnp
On 5/5/99 I interviewed 14 year old cas student Casey Jackman at his home in Littleton, Co. Casey's mother was present for this
interview, Casey stated that he was
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began at 11;20am on 4/20/99. class and walked alone nachos at rebel corner.
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to the cafeteria. He arrived and ordered He sat down at his usual area with friends
Mike Kellogg, Justin Alber and Phil Seeress. I showed Casey a drawing of the cas cafeteria which depict$d all the tables. I pointed. out certain areas to help Casey understand the lay ... out of this drawing. Casey pointed to table "MIl near the west windows as the
table he and his friends Were seated at. Casey recalled he sat down with his back towards the windows, facing the cafeteria. He had just sat down when the commotion began. He did not notice any unusually large duffle bags in the cafeteria, but stated that "everyone carrys a backpack". I advised Casey I was looking specifically for a larger duffle bag. He stated he did not see this. He also stated he did not see anybody suspicious carrying a large duffle bag earlier in the day, or the previous day. Casey stated that around 11: 30arn he heard "pops" behind him and everybody stood up. Casey thought there was a fight. A j ani tor yelled for everyone to get down, which Casey did. He reoalled hearing someone say that Someone had been shot. casey was not sure who said th1s.
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He stated. everyone began to run towards the steps. Casey stood up and ran towards the steps with a large group and upstairs into the main hallway. He recalled hearing 'fsemi automatic" gunfire behind him
as he rat' up the stairs. He described semi automatic gunfire as 'rapid type fire". He continued straight ahead with several students, and ran out of the building through the exit doors south of the main entrance. He did not encounter any gunman while eXiting the building.
He ran out, crossed Pierce street to Weaver street and ran
into a horne somewhere on Weaver street with otner students.
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left this houae and ran to Seth Debious' a house on Calhone place. Seth is cas student and a fr~end of Casey's. Casey stated he did not see any ~~man as he left the building, and he did not see anybody suspicious outside the building as he left. He reoalled there were many students running. Casey left behind a yellow/blue Timberline backpack with books and a calculator in it. He was wearing a navy blue long sleeve shirt with a blue hat.
Casey had no more information on the shootings, and no information on any of the TCM members.
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Nicole advised me that she was in the cafeteria at CHS when the sheoting began around 11,25am. She had come to the cafeteria from the choir room to attend "A" lunch which stated at 11:15am. She and Carmen Ceihi walked together to their table, then to the lunch line. She sat with 5 other CHS students: Carmen Deihi, Stephanie Wise, Megan Sholerobine, Kelly Carpenter and Robyn Saraphine. I provided Nicole a drawing of the cafeteria, which depicted all the tables and their location in the cafeteria.
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LAKEWOOD POLICE DEPARTMENT SUPPLEMENTAL REPORT EPORTING AGENT: KARLA SARNACKI CASE NUMBER: 99.38856 VICTIM: COLUMBINE HIGH SCHOOL DATE OF REPORT, 04.27.99 OFFENSE: AOAlCOLUMElINE HIGH SCHOOL TASK FORCEI JEFFCO SHERIFF'S OFFICE
SUSPECT: ERIC HARRIS
DYLAN KLEBOLD WITNESS: INFORMATION CONTROL NUMBER: 1517, FBI: 114A·DN·51419. JCSO: CRfi9·7625, TEAM 4, CAFETERIA WITNESSES. COLUMBINE HIGH SCHOOL
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6131 West Rowland Place, Littleton, Co 80128,303·971,0573 Mother. Jenkins. Donna, 6131 West Rowland Place, Littlel"", Co 80128, 303·971..(J573 Father: Jenkins, Demk, 6131 West Rowland Place, Littleton, Co 80128,303·971·0573. work: 303-764-4594
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On 04·28·99 at 1615 hours I interviewed ShellyJenkins in the presenceof her mother at her home, Shelly statedthat her mother drove her to school on the morning of the 04-20-99 arriving at approximately 0730 hours. Shelly stated she used the main entrance of the school and did not notice anything out of the ordinary, Shelly stated that she had never seen ERICHARRIS before. She had seen KLEBOLO before but never knew his name, She stated she had heard about the "trench coat mafia" group. She knew one girl who was part of the group named Lydia who she described as beingvery nice, haVing had contact with her in a class previously. She did not see any of the members of this group between classes that morning. Shelly also knew another member of the grOlJp by the name of Brian sergeant She slated she knew him personally but not very well, Shelly stated she had a keyboarding class with Mr. Sandel'$ during her fourth hour, This class is downstairs and after It was finished, she walked directly into the cafeteria through the downstairs hallway, She stated that it was approximately 1112 hours when she walked inlo the cafeteria. There were lots of kids in the cafeteriaalreadyand she slated nothing wasout of place Shedescribed it as a pretty normalday Shellybrought her lunch So she sat down at a table immediately. She indicated on the attached diagram the lable she thought Page 1 of 2
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LAKEWOOD POLICE DEPARTMENT SUPPLEMENTAL REPORT 'EPORTING AGENT: KARLA SARNACKI CASE NUMBER: 99-38856 I/lCT1M: COLUMBINE HIGHSCHOOL DATE OF REPORT: 04-27-99 OFFENSE: AOAlCOLUMBINE HIGHSCHOOL TASK FORCE! JEFFCO SHERIFF'S OFFICE
she sal at and she added a list of kids that sat wilh her, She stated approximately five 10 seven minutes had passed after she sat down when a lot of kids got up and rushed to the west window, She thought it was another fightlhal they were watching, Then she heard loudbangs, She stated Mr, Sanders came into the cafeteriafrom the outside north west cafeteriaexit door, Mr, Sandersyelled at everyoneto get down, Shelly staled she andthe others got on the fioor under the table, She stated Mr, Sanders went back outside and then immediately came back in the cafelerJa, They heard a lot of bangs and beoms, Shelly staled that a lot of them thought it was a senior prank, Shellythen heard some kids yell, "they have guns" Shestated she and approximately 50 to 75 other kids ran east through the cafeteria to the kitchen area, She staled the two aUditorium doors were closed, Mr Andres was on the other s,de of the doors and pushed them open for aJlthe kids to come through, She stated she ran into the auditorium and ranto the upper level of the auditorium and out into the hallway (north east portion of the auditorium) She stated that she heard gunfire as she ran towardthe front door but stopped when she noticed '''at the window had been shot out of the front doors. She looked back over her shoulder and noticed that the ~"rMer
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Dock.. t NI.ullber I 99A060 (I..) Cas.. NI.ullb..r, 99-7625 In.....stigator: Mike Heylin
WITNESS: Jared Jensen DOB: 040583 6554 S. Allison St, Littleton. CO 80123 303-973-6016
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INVESTIGATION: April 29, 1999 at 1603 hours I contacted Jared Jensen at his home Jared then for an interview. Jared's father, Dan, was present. told me the following:
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He was at school all morning on the 20th of April. He has secon~ hour free and went to the cafeteria at 8:30. He saw nothing unusual, He sat at table MM, and then went to his Spanish class, Ben went back to the cafeteria for lunch at 11:10, He sat at a table close to the student store with Jason Hensley, Mike Foster, BJ Secord, Srook Allison and Braden Pollard. Ben bought his lunch and then sat down. He'd been eating for about five minutes. The janitor told everyone to get under the table. Ben did. After about one minute, everyone started running out of the cafeteria. At first Ben though there was a fight. He didn't hear any gunshots. He ran out of the door by the student store. He went to "some guy's' house. He just knocked on the door and didn't know who lived at the house. He stayed there until he was told to go to the library. Ben said that he never heard gun shots. When he got to the house, he heard what sounded like a bomb, and the windows of the house were shaking. Ben left his blue Eastpack in the cafeteria. In the back pack was his math book and some C.Il.s. His school ID was also in the pack. He never saw the shooter(sl. He didn't know 8ric Harris or Dylan Klebold until he saw them on television. He didn't know what the TCM was all about until this incident. He had seen one guy, Robert Perry, in the halls last semester wearing a trench ccat. Ben looked in his year book to get Perry's name. Ben said that he heard around school that had turned himself in. The day of the shooting, Sen had worn shorts and a red Old Navy shirt. Sen doesn't use the Internet. He knows no one with a double pierced eyebrow. He noticed nothing unusual on the RNN. A diagram of the cafeteria is attached to this report. 2
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CONTROL#2719 TRAVISJONES 8339 S, Calhoun Dr, Littleton. CO. 80123 303,979,7582 05/17/99.1010hrs. Travis Jones was interviewed by Detective S,C. Shott #72049 (DPD) at his home, His mother. JoAnne was presentand sat in on the interview, Travis reported that he attended his 4" period class, which got out at 1110 hrs, He walked directly to the cafeteria area with his friend Quinn Boonz, They purchased lunch items at the Rebel Corner and sat at one of tbe three tables that were nearby. They were there for approximately five minutes when ajanitor came up to them and told everyoneto get down under the tables. Travis said that when he crouched down under the table he saw a flash of lights then a cloud of smoke coming from the senior packing lot. Approximately TWO minutes later he heard gunshots coming from the teacher's area of the cafeteria. At this time. students began running from the cafeteria in all directions and towards the packing lot. Travis said !hal he followed suit and ran to the parking lot out the main door by the cafeteria. He continuedrunning until!Iegot to the junior parking lot then he ducked down in an irrigation ditch and waited, He stayed there for several minutes until" teacher came by and told everyone to go home. Travis said that he left his backpack on the floor near the chair where he was sitting and he did not take it when he fled. He described his pack as a black "North Face" th"t contained misc. schoolbooks and items. He said that when he ran from the school. Quinn Bcortz was with him. Travis said that he does not know Eric Harris or Dylan Klebold nor does he know any of the Trench Coat Ml>fia members, He did say that he was aware of the reM and knew how they dressed and he has seen the group walking around at school. He could DOt recall if he saw any of the reM members on the Monday prior to the shooting or on the day of the shooting. He did not see a duffel bag in the cafeteria and he did not see anyone bringing one in. Travis said that on the day of the incident, he was wearing a pair of green shorts, tennis shoes and an unknown type of shirt, Travis said that after the incident and while artending Chatfield HS. he heard rumors that _ w a s involved and could have been one of the shooters, He could not recall ~ the inforrnadort, however,
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On 06·07-99, between rhe hours of 1507and 1528,1had an oPl"'l'ltlniry to speak with KatherineJorgensen in referenceto the
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Katherine explainedthat she arrived at schoolon 04-20-99. at aeour0805 hours.and II"" motherhad dropped her off at the main entrance of the school, Katherine attended her normal scheduled classes telling me that her fourth period class is choir taught
by Mr. Andres,Jr. Aller being released from ber fOuM periodclass... about 1110 hours. Katherineproceeded to her locker, which is ~800. and she described it all being right across from the library. Aftershe went to her locker, Katherinesaid she went down to the cafeteria and arrived at about 1115 hours, where she placed her backpack on the table I provided Katherine a diagram of the cafeteria at the scheci and asked if she could tell me wllich table she was seated .t. Katherine, after lookingat the diagram. told me she was seatedat table "KK," I askedherwho was seatedat the table with her, and she told me her friends. KeiraOdell and Nicole Ziccardi. Aller she placed her items on the table,she proceededto Rebel Comer where she was going to get somethingto eat. After returningto the table, she toldme her back was to tile west windowsof the cafeteria,and that she recalls. janitor aver near the food service line, and be wasyelling at the students to get down. Katherinealso recalledthat 'he beard someone yell, "They've got guns," but she couldn't provideany informationwho yelled that.
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Katherine was asked while she was in the cafeteria, or aftershehadexitedfrom the school. if she ever observed any gunmen at the school She said she never observed any gunmen, but she heard a coupleof gunshots and heard what she thought were explosions
.ising the map of the cafeteria area, I asked her if she observed two large duffle bags, one being blue and the other being an orgamsn/red color which were located in the central coreare' of the cafeteria. I asked her if she observedthose bagsor if she saw anyone bring the bags into the cafeteria. She was unableto provide an)' information about the bags.
Katherine was asked If she had observed anything OUI of the ordinary when she was at her lockerprior to going down into tho cafeteria at ! ! 15 hours. Shesaidtherewas nothing out of the ordinary which wculdhave led herto believeanything was wrong ] also asked her if she hadany ide' whatthe phrase of the dey wasat school. Shesaid she did no' know it. ] asked ifthere were any rumors prior to 04-02..99, of anything that was gOIng to OC{:Uf. She could not provide any information. She was also asked
if she specifically knew Eric Harris or DylanKlebold, or any associates of the TrenchCoat Mafia. She said she did not know Harrisor Klebold, and she did not know the Trench Coat Mafiaexisted until after thls incident.
Katherine was asked if she couldrecall what shewas wearing on 04·20·99 She said she was wearing a red tank top, a pair of blue jeans, and a pair of brownshoes. I askedher if she had leftanything else behind when she leftthe cafeteria otherthanher backpack, She said there was no other personal property left behind,
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