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She slated that after she gal something 10 eal she and loni Browrl'and Katie Thompson sat outside. Dawn indicated on the larger diagram where she sat with an "X' She stated lhey were oulslde perhaps fIVe minutes before they heard shots, She stated there were kids outside j" the parking lot at the time and she did not see anyone wearing a long, black coat. She stafed there were giris that ran and hid behind cars on the west Side of the school and she indicated where on the diagram. She also indicated on the diagram where she saw a girl fall to the ground, this is where she put a circle and a "X' Dawn stated she ran into the cafeteria through one of the south exit doors. Sheheard someone say that someone has a gun, She never saw the shooter. She stated she got under the first table near the student entrance. She then ran east in the lower level hallway intothe lastforeign language room. She stated there were

20 to 30 kids and two teachers with her, She did not knowwhat the teachers' names were. At this time the fire alarm went off, She heard shots being fired upstairs. She staled they were In the room for apprOXimately ten Jtes before they went out the south door, Dawn slated she andothers ran throughthe junior/senior parking lot. She did not notice any car coming or going at this lime from the parking lot. She stated they stayed on the west side of Pierce and went to the first house off of Piercesouth of the school, She stated this was a seminary house and she stayed there for three to four hours. Dawn stated she left her backpacknext to the tablewhereshewas hiding under Insidethe backpack she had her scncouo. her wallet, a geometry bock, and a government book, Shewas wearing blackshorts and blue

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color, and the other as being orange-ish/redin color. I asked If she observed those packs or if she had observed anyone bring

thosepacks in the cafeteriaand place them in the generalarea of Iter table. She stateddue to the amountof backpacks inside the cafeteria she did not see anybody carrying anything like that and leave it in the cafeteria. Jamiesaid aftershe placed her backpack at her tableshe went to the food service linewhere she got her lunchand later returned back to her table. Shortly after 'he sar

down she remembers hearing two or three "pops" described as gunshotsoutside. just west of the cafeteria area, Jamie stated

shortly after the pops 'he observed a school teacher by the name of Mr. Sanders. standing near the north/west door' of the cafeteriawhere he was tellingstudentsto get down under their rabies. Alsoby Mr. Sanderswas a janitor whoshe described as short, skinny, and this individual was also telling them to get down, Shortly after thi, Jamie explained hearing an explosion, ~Iling

me she believed it was just overhead and possiblyin the vicinity of the Iibrary upstairs. at which time herself and other

individual, went into the kitchen Itallway wherethere wereabout "60" student' gatheredand two teachers, Ms.Abbottand "l" Killian, Fromthe kitchenarea they went intotho auditorium which allowedthemto gain access into the main ""por levelof the school at which time they wont past the tech lab, past the counselors room where they exited a north/westdoor. at which time the srudernsran north to where they jump¢d a fence and proceededinto Clement Park.

ramiewasasked if she everobserveda gunman whileshe was in the cafeteria area or aftershe exited Columbine H,S, She stated sheneversaw a gunman, Jamiewas asked to describe her dresson 4-20·99, Shesaid she was dressed in a black tanktop. a kaiki colored'kin. She was wearing blackslip on shoes. She wasalso asked If she leftany other additionalitem' insideColumbine H.S,when she left on Tuesday, She stated the only items she left was her backpackwhich was located in tilecafeteriaarea,and of course she had school books in her locker,

Jamie was asked if she knew the members of the TrenchCoat Mafia, to include Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold. She stated she neverknew the individuals and didn't knowmuchaboulthe grt)"", I ..ked if she had overheard any rumorsin school reference to this incident possiblyoccurring. She said the only tilingshe overheard was that there was a bomb threat made at the school

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At me completion of my interview I provided Jamie with. map of lIle cafeteria area at the high scbool at which time she documented her movement from !he cafeteria and her seating location. A copy of that map is stlaehed 10 this supplemental report.

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On 04·30·99. at about J J'15 a.m.. J interviewed CHS student Letha Murphy at herresidence as follow up to DN2059 Leiha's mother. Colleen Murphy. was present during the interview.

Leiha told methaton 04·20-99. ill about 11,10 a.m.. shehad just finished her fourth period class. Consistent withher normal

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Upon entering 'he cafeteria. Leihas..d that she placed her haekpack on 'op of lunch table BBB or AAA. When asked ifshe could remember specifically whichtableit was. Leiha 'aid. "['m rIlinking more AM." Leiha saidher table "was rightby 'he serving line" After placing herbackpack on saidtable, Leiha said that sheentered theserving line inorderto purchase a school lunch. Leiha told methaIwhilestanding in rile serving line. she remembered hearing a bell ring. I asked Leiha which bell she

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Leiha told me that she assumed that there was a fight takingplace outside,and that upon looking through the windowson 'he west side 'Of the cafeteria. directly west of tables WW and VV, she saw an individual whom she identified as Leiba told me t h a _ w a s standingon Or near the sidewalk.approximatelyten to fifteen feet west of the windows next to tables WW and VV Leiba said "I

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students within the cafeteria. l.eiha said that after about rwo remures, and while still underneath the table. she turned around (facing east) to see where her friends were. Leiba said that she "saw people running up the (interior) stairs," and decided to leave the cafeteria as quickly as possible.

Leihasaid she then crawled aut from underneaththe table and ran eastward, in front of the serving line. back to table AAA or BBB where she retrieved her backpack. and then continued eastward to the northeast corner of the cafeteria. near some bathrooms. Leiba told me that near the bathrooms. she remembered seeing a reacher. who she identified as Mrs. Regnier, who was usheringstudents away from the windowsand intothe bathroomson that side of the cafeteria. Leihatold me that she thtnks teacher Dave Sanders may also have been in that area, ushermg students up the stairs, but is not sure. Leiha said that she did net enter a bathroom. Letha said that while she was near the barhrcoms, she "heard two explosions in that upper hallway," referring to the hallway up the interior stairway. Letha said that she was eventually ushered out of the cafeteria, along v.. uh students Ann Marie Kelly and T05ha Nygard. Leiba taid me that she exited the lower level by way of the auditorium. which lead upstairs 10 the upper level of me school Letha Said that she and others then exited the auditorium and eventually the school through the doors located on the east side of Ute gymnasium.

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Priorto concluding the lnterview.J presented Leihawitha photo lineup to see ifshe could identify the individual whoshe had seen outside the cafeteria. Leiha read and signed the photographic line up admonition at 12.37 p.m. Leins then viewed the photolineup showlng_in position number 3, Leiba immediately pointed to photonumber3 and said,"that's him .. Leiha thensigned and dated the photolineup form at 12:40 p m.,marking -posruve" identification and photonumber "3:' Said photo lineup was witnessed and signed by Leiba's mother, Colleen Murphy, and myself. Leiha then dated and initialed photograph number3 at 12:40 p.m, The photolineup andassociated forms werethen collected by me, In addition, Icollected the catesene map on whichLeibaindicated thedirection she took in order to exit the cafeteriaand school The intervle-....- was concluded at about 12:50 p m.

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INVESTIGATION: On I()..22·99 Columbine High Scheel Student Leilia Murphy was re-interviewed at 5352 South Holland Street Her mother, Colleen Murphy, was present for the interview. The purpose for the re-interview was 10 clarify Murphy's observations during the April 20'" shootings at Columbine High School, specifically the statements made by Murphy during an interview on 4-30·99 with Task Force investigators. In that interview, Murphy a trench coat and standing near stated that she was certain that she saw est of the cafeteria windows when the the sidewalk approximately 10 10 15 • shooting started.

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I then showed Murphy a series of four photographs (#44.A, 51.A, 52.A, 53·A) taken from the video camera in the cafeteria. Photographs 51.A, 52·A and 53·A all picture Dylan Klebold, After looking at those photos, Murphy agreed that the person she saw in a trench coat ~ bottom of the cement stairs certainly could have been Dylan Klebold, and not_ _

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On OS-l3-99. at about0905hOUTll, I attempted tocontact Myers at her homephonenumber (303)948-5856, 11efta message on her answeringmachinerequesting her to call me, I also left my pagernumber.

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home in Littleton, Co. Ms Nederman has worked in the Columbine High School cafeteria for 2 years and was working in the kitchen of the oafeteria on 4/20/99 from 6,30am until 11,30am. She stated that she arrived to work at 6, 30am,

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Tony. the maintenance He opened up a mop

closet inside the kitchen and Ms Nederman went inside with 10 students and 8 adults and locked the door. They remained inside the mop room with Tony, who was able to communicate with the outside on a portable radio. They heard what appeared to be gunfire above them en the second floor. A few minutes later. they heard gunfire inside the cafeceria and kitchen area. the mop room.

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looking around. Ms Nederman stated that around 1:00pm they heard 3-4 gunshots upstairs. Around 1'15, the SWAT team arrived in the kitchen and rescued the group. They exited out the teacher's lounge window with SWAT escort.

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On 05...25..99. at 1130hours. I contactedAngela Nelson againat her address, Presentduring the interviewwas Angela Neisen's

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Angela Nelson was asked if shecouldtellme whathadoccurred on 04-20-99 She told me immediately after History class. which was her fourth hour class, she and a friend of hers. Kelly Fleming, left the class and walked westbound past the administrative offices.to the hallway where the Libraryis at. Kelly Fleming was going to the Library to continue to work on a project. which AngelaNeisen thoughtwas a biography AngelaNelsontold methat Kelly Fleming asked her if she wantedto come inside. and she toldher that she was goingto the commons area, She then went to the cafeteriaarea and sat dOINTl at tableeither"T' Of "V'·

A map of the cafeteria was provided for Angela Nelsonto look at. She was not sure which table she was at. but she indicated one of the two. While she was sittingthere, someof tae kids in the cafeteria started to get excited, and then she started hearing screaming. She then looked outside inthe direction everyone was looking, andsawDylanKlebotd holding a rifle. Shedescribed Klebold as wearing a trench coat, black pants, black hoots. and ball cap. She thought the ball cap was placedon with the bill pointingforward. Kleboldthen began shooting towards the cafeteria. She remembers windows beingshot out. Shedid notsee Eric Harris or an individual she couldidentify as Eric Harris. but did think she saw his boots and his pants. She was unable to tell mehow she thoughtthi' individua! was Eric Harris, or whyshe thought thi' was Eric Harris. She then saw Klebcldmoving alongto the westand north, alongthe side of the building, and then lostsigh!of him, She then ran eastbound downa hallway. DffICer ~iUlJre

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into the neighborhood just to the south of ColumbineHigh School. She then went into the third house on the right, and stayed there for approximately a half hour to an hour She then left. and went to the drug store at Coalmine and Pierce where she

contacted her mother i asked AngelaNelson if she had her backpack with her at all times, and she said she did, She said when she left the cafeteria, she tool< it with her

I asked AngelaNelson whileshe was In the cafeteria if she bed seen anytbingunusual, and she said she did not I specifically asked her if she saw a duffle bag, and she said she had not. I asked her when she was in the parking lot and fleeing from the school if she had seen any other individuals with dark clothingon, and she said she did not. I asked her how she knew it was Dylan Kleboldsbe saw standingoutside with the gun, and she said she had been introduced to him by one of her friends some timeago, Shesaid she alsoknew who Eric Harriswas. because everynowand thenthejocks would harassbothof them, i asked net if she knew about the Trench Coat Mafia. and she said yes, she did. but it was through the picture in the yearbook. I asked her ifthere was any additional information she had thatwouldbe- relevant to thisinvestigation, She said there is a rumoramongst the studentsthatthere havebeen numerous warnings sent to the principal that something was going to happen, I askedher if she could identify what that rumor was. and she said it was something to the effect like you are all going to die. I asked her if she could tell me who she had heard this from. and she could not identifY a specific person. I asked her if she: could tell me more about the weapon that Kleboid had, She described it as a long gun. and that he was shooting it like they do in the movies, She held her arms up about halfway from hershoulderto her WaISt, as if sitewas holdinga longgun or a shotgun, I asked her which hand he had it in, and she thought it was in his right hand. or to his right shoulder, I asked her if there was any additional information she could tell me which would help this investigation, and she said there was nothing else she knew.

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