Columbine Report Pgs 8201-8300

MOTTE, M.

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D!I'ARTMENT OFTHE TREASlJRY

BIIl'l!AIJ OF AL.COMOI.. TOBACCO. AND I'lFleAAMS

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REPORT OF INVESTIGATION k.vision

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Phoenix Field 01vtaion

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!'lar<:\lS C. Motte

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Al'PftO\II!D BY (T1Ilo _

Chrisl:apher P. S..dowaki

DD/Phaenix Field Division

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APPROVEll BY (00",)

Sllcotillq illCidellt at Columbine lliqll Scllool of students and faculty on April 1.0, 1999.

On April 20, 1999, two individuals identified ~ Eri" ~ia and Dylan Klebold assaulted the Columbine I(igh Sohool with four firearms and numeroua improvi.ed explo.ive device. weich r •• ~lt.d in numerous deaths and injuries to st~ents and staft and destruction eo .chool property.

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On April 20, U99, IIdc bro., llQS 4/9/81, and Dyle Klebold, OOB S/ll/U, .....ulted the Columbine High Sehool located at 6201 5. Pierce, Littleton, Colorado. ",ith four (4) fireuu lU:ld ll.UIllerou, improvised, explodve devieu. Twelve (12; .tudent victim.. one (1) faculty victim, and fift••" (lS) injurie. were .ust.ined as a r ...ult of the ....ault. Both .W1peCtl. I(&=i. and Klellold. wen killed as & rnult of .elf - inflicted, qunshot WClUlll1I.

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Suspect vehicles were identified in the southeast and southweat parking lots of the lligh sohool which were identified u belonging to sric Ha=1. end Dylan Klebold. A black JMW eelQllging to Iric Harris was found to contain improvised explosive deviess end abo locatad inside the ve!liele WAI an. Xntratec, TiC-eC9, ""'" 'lUll bOl< "'ith the .ari&1 number eO.1S05. This information waa traeed on 4/21/99 through ATF Tracing Br....ch with the followill'l resulta' fireum wa. received by La=y l'. 5nyder, doing !lusine.. &JI Adventure GUllS ... A... liIl:1terpri.e. located at 120 II. 70" Ave .• Denver, Colorado &0221. telephone number {101H2?-S421. A<:cO~ll9 to tracing. Mr. Snyder went out of husines. and the Xntratee, SIN 0061505. was transferred to 1l2:. Snyder as part of l1i. persOIl&l collection. On 4/22/95 attempt.

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, 1999, th. fire"""'e used. in the Columbine lti9'l1 Sohool .hooti"g "'ere from crime sCene personnel aa follewl;

St.v."". model JUll, by savag., ••"i&1 nUlllber A077SU, double-barr.1ed .1:loe9'Ul1, 12 saug., 2 l(' c _ . r . 1l1-Point. ll1Cll..l 995, 91l1l1 <:.. rbine, 9 x 19 lu';/er, 1:ly ie.miller, serial nUlllber Ali901,L Sav..ge-Springfield, model 571l. 12 gaug. pump .1:lot9"'.ll., 3" ell.am.b.r, .erial numb"r A232432. Intratee, ll1Cll.e1 TEe-DCS, 9mm, ••ri.. l number C015305,

Firearm. Traeiog Sranch notified. of fir.arms reeovored and ur';Iene tr..ee. initi..ted ",ith id. St.eley, {3041 214-4100. 4.

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Savas., .erial ~ r A017513 - .hiPped 3/10/69 to Ota.eo Whole."le, Tulsa, Oldaho""L Then .hipped on 9/15/69 to Coa.t to c....e Federal Firsarms Lie"n.... in Alva, Oklahoma wl:1
Walter Craig, Inc. s"vag. by Springfield....rial ..umbor Jl320432 - .hipp.d to Olympic lI!lcl....1e C
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DEPARTMENT OFTHE TREASURY SUIlllAlJ OFAl.COHOL. TOllACCO. ANO FJReAAMS

REPORT OF INVESTIGAnON - Continuation Sh_ '""'I.E OFIIMIS'IlGA'IlON,

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this ..... "ee. info"""U"" abut",..,. frclll FlU .... eo an ine.rv1ew eon
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on Ap ..il 2~. 1999. "olllPleeecl era.,e in£ormaeicn was obeained from AT? Firearms T....cing ancl forwardecl eo SIA Moet. via ASAC Jo..sting. Th. following information relat..d to the era.,•• i .... followa, a. b.

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Stevens. serial number A07751J, responsible party for ehe licens.. is a Dean ancl P......la Illan, 527 a..""",., Alva, okla.l1_. Ac:eorclin; eo AXF Tracil19', ehe
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DePARTMENT OFTHE TlU!ASIJRY BUI'll!AU OFAl.COHQ\" TOBACco. AND FlR!!AAlolS

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loI()l'lITOllED IHVUTlQAOON INFORMAnOlI:

.sian Direceor Phoenix Field Division

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Columbine High School Shooting r CASEHlJ_

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SUBIIllT'l'1!tl8Y lNomoI

SUBNlT'l'1!tl BY (/'/flo and OIl'II:loJ

Maroua C. MotU

SA/Oe=-r I

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Gerald T. Petrilli

llAC/D....ver I

APPROVlIl:l BY ( _ I

A!'PIlOvllD BY (/'/flo _

Chris"opn.... P. Sadowski

DO/Phoenix Field Division

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4/27/U

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Repor: of Interview

Repore of intervie" wieh Royce Lee Spain. COB 7/12/57. and Larry Rus.ell. via telepno•• , on ~ril 22. 1595.

p'p!;mr on April 22, 1599, S/A'. Moeee and MOreland interviewed Mr. Spain ae his r •• idence locaeed ae 3lS E. 1" sereee. Joluuleown, Colondo. Mr. Spain .eaeed. r:.hae ne did

have a Federal'Firearm& License 2655 2.

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~egi.t.red

in the name of -Just Guna- locatea at

»3. federal Heighes, Colorado.

Mr. Spain seaee. thae he had .urrendered. hi. FFL license due eo the husine•• not heing as proaperous all b.e had hoped for. Mr. Spain was uked. "nae b.e had don. with hi. r ......ining inveneory and he .tned. that h. taken "halO "as lete of hi. inventory and transfe""ed thelll to his personal invenear/. He then gave the inventory to a longtime friend of hia identified. aa Larry Ru.aell. telephone number 13031 4264066. who reli<1". at 95:15 N. Lowell Blvd., Weatminster. COlorado. Mr. R"....ll wo"ld have diaposed of the fir...""", a1: varia". gun sh""". Mr. Spain was ..ked if Mr. ll.uuell kept detailed paperwork on fireU1ll eranaaee10n and Mr. Spain heU"Vld r:.hae ne did. Mr. Spain au,e"d ehat he c:ould call Mr. Ruuell and Uk him allOUt eb.e dispoaieion of the r ......inin!il' fir...""", from Mr. spain'. inv.. ntory and d«cumin« i f he had any r ..ceipes for ell...... tl:lia was agre"d to and Mr. Ruuell "aa eoncacted via eelephon...

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DEPARTMENT OF THETReASURY 8UAI!AU 01' AI.COHOL., TOBACCO. ANO FU'lEAIWS

REPORT OF INVESTIGATION - Continuation SMet

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Mr. ll.u.....ll SCatec1 t:l:aat he l:t&d. obtail:ted t:ll.e re.....l.:li:l.g fir.&.l:lQ froll! Mr. Spain llllli had dispo.ed of _ &l: \i'U1 .11""". Mr. R1.UI. .U 'oM. uked i f h. had 0'1 receipts. of t:ll.e tranaactiona and h. .tated that if t:ll.e firearm3 were di.polled ot prior to OctCll:ler Uge, bAIl ....'1 0.. _'I lIOt have Il receipt. If the U ..ea= 'oMS tr""",acud atte.. October lU8, he ""'lUld hs"" eOlllpleted an appropriate A17 r 4473 for tile tr.....acti.o... Mr. lil.u. U .tatebe" u n he ..... lieelUled by 1\.17 as a F.d.ral Fi",..""", IJ.e e... Mr. Iluaaell _ . gi alA Mott.' .. pag.r numiler and i ...tructed ee e"ll i f he llad. aJrf addit:ic:>l1al J..r1fo tioll. Th.. t..., .uap.eted Savag,. ShOl:\i'U18 ...rial numi>e" ...re giv_ to Mr. Ru...ll to check .. ith hi. "",eords ,

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AI: appr=timaeely 2'40 p."'., Mr. auaeel1 paged SIA MOtt. and .tated thst h. hsd ee 1'.17 f' 4473 .1lc:>will9 th. diapositiC:>ll of 0'1 of Mr. Spain'. firea....... Mr. Ru....ll .tated ellat h. would c:ll.ec:l< hi. ....c.ipt boc:l< for allY fir.arms sold at the gun Shows wllicll. h.. miSlht hav•.

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OePARTMENT OFTHETREASURY BUREAU OFALCOI'lOl... TOBACCO. AND FIREARMS

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REPORT OF INVESTIGATION ~"""IU!$$I!O TO,

MONITORIlllINVES11GAllON INFO_lION:

iaion OireceoX' Phoenix Field nivision 1'lTLIl Ql'INVU'IlGA'l1ON,

Columbine _ _lIlIIl:High Sebcol Shoocinq I 7aSQ2S " 11:

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I~NUM.ER' COLL.AT!RAL RElItY

IUiFORT OF IIM!S'l'IGA'l1ON Rl!POflT OF lII'I'EWGeNCI

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Gerald T. Pee"illi

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Christoohe" P. Sadowski

Do/phoenix Field Division

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Report of Ineerview Q1I9Ps;;r:

Report of ineerview wiCh Raoni. Le. Choate. DOll 10/2/42, on April 22. 1"'.

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On April 22. 1935. Mr. ehoaee ...... co",..acted at hi.. residen<:e located .... iSH KQu

Court, Ft. Collins, colorado, S0528, on April 22. 1SS'. 2.

Mr. Choate .......ad that he had purChased ehe Hi-Point, smm carhine. serial number AS'S10. from Grandpa'. Pawn. GUA lonated at 312 Main Streee. Longmone, Colorado BOSOL

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Mr. Choate statad thae he work. for a compaoy ideneified as li'CI Conse:ructon in it.. coUina. 'rI1is compuy used to be Francis COlUltructors and befon thae was Ialown a.. Me..a constructors in Gleadal•• A:izona ..bich also bad a Fede"al Firearm. License.

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M". Choate staeed that in the late fall of un, he atUndecl. the 'ifloUI .how idetltified as ehe TUl11Il" Q\Ul SlIow whJ.ch toolt place at I-15 ll:IlCi sa'" Avuue, fhi. location is d.o Ialown as the Mel:. Mr, Choate n&ee4 thae he h..d purchased the firearm f~oM G~a.cdpa's Pawn ¥ Gun hacause of the cheap price hvt 4ild WitlChester. 30-30 rifle and asked him if he would lilte to trade the fi"earm for the 51-point carbine. Mr. Cho..U stated that the individual aqreed and the tr.......ction ...... completed ..ieh \:he exchange of the Hi-Point ....d $400,00 for the WinChes"er rifle.

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DEPARTMENT OFTHE TREASURY BUREAU OF"'-COHOL. TOBACCO, AND FlREAlW8

REPORT OF INVESTlGAnON - Continuation Sheet

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tir. Choate ldllIltified the l.lld.l.vidual as beill9 .. ",hite ...le, 45 to 55 years of ..... ' dren"d in cowboy fuhion, S'~O· to 6'0· tall, :100 lb•. tir. Choate uit:erated that this occurred in lat" OCtoe"r or If
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Jllr. Choate "a. asked ~ !fA Mette to display the Winchester, 30-30 rifl" -..d JIlr. Choat" &gr....d. fir. Choate .howed SfA !!Otte the firearm -..d it 11 identified as

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Winchester, model lS'., 30-30 caliber rifle, .erial "umber 32.31. (This firea",. ..... tnc,,
Mr. Choal:e staeed that hit
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DEPARTMENT OFTKETREASURY BUFlllAU OF Al.COHOl.. TOBACCO. AtlD1'1_5

REPORT OF INVESTIGATION MONITOllED lNVl!llnGAnoN INFORMA1l0N:

Diviaion girector Pbcenix 'iel~ Diviaion

Columbine High School Shooting I

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IRIIPORT OFJH\Il!llTIOA11ON

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BUIlMI1'Tl!O BY (IIlIII- 0-1

BUBMI1'Tl!O IY to-I

Moteo _BYI_I

SA/Denver I _

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Ma;'CUB C~

Gerald T. Petrilli APl'lIOVIiD BY IMimOI

Chrietonher P. Sado",.ki

Report

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4/27/99

BY (IIlIII- Ollbl

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RAc/D
DO/Phoenix

APPROVED BY (01Jtfl)

'iel~ Di~i.ion

ot Intervie..

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On April 22, 1999, S!A's Motte _ Moreland intervie",ed Mr. Larry Rusaell at hi. reaidenee loeated at 952! R ~ll Blvd •• Westminster, Color~o, telephone number (303142
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Mr. Runell 8t:atR that he had obtained the 30 to 40 firea.mtll fr"'" Mr. Royoe Spain's inventory and sold them at the Tumer ClI.ul Sho", located &t 1-25 and 58'" Avenue in De1'1Ver, Colorado. Mr. Ruuell stated that he had obtained 4 or 5 Intrateo fire~ from Mr. Spain but did not recall who he had sold them to at the gun ahow. lIt'. RUU.ll .tated th&t i t be had sold any of tbe fire"""" atter OCtober U98, he would 'have oompleted &Ii ATT , .413 dn<:e he would have ob<:a1%led hi. liFt. lioenoe. !'lr. :luseell .tated that he did not llaVe any An' Ii 4473' s for OJ1y of IIr. Spain'. firearms that he had .old.

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Mr. RUuell

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!>Ir. Ilu. . .ll wae aaked if he had ever ".""eived an Inentec p:l.se"'l hox with the wrong serial number into his :l.nventory &nd he stated be had not.

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!'Ir. ll.uuell was &aked :I.f he uaed any f""'" of label!"'il on Ul.y "f his fire""'lIl bOxe.

W&II aeked if he "'as familiar with a <:ompany lalO"'" a. Adventure Gune or A+ lInurpr:l.n. and he atated "Larry Snyder, ye. I KIlO'" t.&rry". Mr. Rue8ell seated thet Ite had purel1ased an Intratec, .:12 oal:l.ber piseol from I.arry Snyder in the put but have !leve" pureha.e'" .a.n Intratec, ,.... p:l.seol f"OlfI t.&rry snyder.

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REPORT OF INVESTIGATION - Cmrtlnuatlon Sheet '..IiOFIMVUTICIATlQN'

11IIPQRT HIIlolBIR' be.ide. the manufacturer. label.. Hr. ~ ..ell .tated that when ehe manufacturer. label c"""'. aU he ,..... iI .. eiek-ol1 lilll.l to 1Il4rk th. firurm box. Hr. RU.seU wal ul<ed ",lae l:ype of st:ic:lI:en and he .t:ated t:ll&t they ....". _11 rOWld. "alared .tiele..... When 'uked wIl.at eela%'. Hr. !lU
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Hr. 11.118....11 wa. uk.d eo .how S!A' .. Moete md Moreland wl:l&t el1.. seieker locks like aDd Hr. Il.u....ll brought: out an Irttrnec: firaa"'" box with .. y.llow .t:ic:lce.. on 1t. On the .ticker tho model number and ehe serial number of eb.. Inerat.ec ellClo4ed ilt the firearm box. Mr. R.u..ell was uked abou" the nWlll:>.rs an the fina.... cox and

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he ."ated "lat it ..... tha model ullllll:ler.

IIl:1e" .l1own the nllllll:ler., M... Ru.sseU ""'• • urpri..ed that thi.. ena had th....r1&1 numb.. r on 1t.

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Hr. R,..sell "as ilsked about th.. receipt book with tl:le rtteeipts fer the fireilr
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Mr. Russell aeaeed ehae sll of Mr. Spain's rlI"ord...ere submitted te oue of

Businels section once be

~~ansferred

the

remaining invencory eo his personal

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Mr. Ru....ll wa. asked if he had lold any Savage

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Hr.' R.u....ll ducril:led Mr. Sl1yder &a 6"0· to <S'1· tall, slim white 1lllIle. Mr. ll .t:ated that the last >::i.... he had ...... Hr. Snyder was 2 or 3 Tanner Gun Ru

.hde~ ehat h..langed to Mr. Spain. Mr. Ru.....ll r ..call· a purel:l.a.aing a .avage "l1oegun in allllClS1: new condition fro.. an individual nue does Me :ecall if ho. did or did Me ".. 11 uy .avage .hotgun. belonging eo Hr. SpAin.

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Mr. Rua.el1 atated that wh... he ........ lling SPilin'. fir...""", at th.. gun sbow, 111. proceedure of ideneification was •• follows: he would ask for en. individUAl', form of ili.entifieaeiol1 to verify the indivi
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REPORT OF INVESTIGATION Direceor Phoenix Field Division

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oerald T. peerilli

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Cllri."o'Dller P. Sa.
DD/Phoenix field Division

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Report: of intarvi.... wiell Kelli Brown on ~ril 23, 1"', at har r.aidenee located at 5756 W. tl~r." Drive, ~ietlet~, Colorado, (3031 '73-3238 P'P!:m'

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O~ .~ril

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Kelli 9rown staeed ~t on a SUnday in De<:amber 1"8 Or January 1"', lI.ol'lyn Anderson left a message at Kelli" bauae for h.r to call 11.0byn hack at har rasid.noll. Kelli oalls lI.ol'lyn hack and Robyn .tates that sh. had been out doing a favor for !ric Harri. and Dylan Klebol~. Kelli statad that Robyn did not elab~cate 011 what the favor _s ""r did !Celli .uk.

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!telli was asked to start frotll the dau of the .hooeiag at Co11JJl\l:line Iligll School and address all contacts with Robyn J.ndllrson. !Celli stated that 011 Tuesday, ~ril 20, 19", _lie Wa_ called by Robyn b"eause Robyn is felling !l"ilty about wl:uI.t happened. at colWll!:l1ne lIigh Sebool. Kelli tells RObyn ehat 'ha will be oClllW1g Q'lrer to her h~us" and arrives Q'lrU at Robyn'. ll.<:use I.e approximately 7,00 'to 7.30 pm. Robyn take. Kelli up to her roO!ll and tells her &bout tll.a favor that .11" did for Srie Harris and Dyl.... Klllll.<:ld. Il.ol'lyn states to KelH that sil1ce .11. was 18 year. old, .he Droughe Erio Harris and Dylan Klel:lold into the sun show ....d paid eaah for the sun' sh. helped them acquire. lI:e11i stated that Robyn told. her tllat ehe suns that

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REPORT OF INVESTIGATlON -

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W1!re purchas..d we.... a " ....i·aue_e.ic ritle tor Ericl a dou.ble-ba".,eled ahotgun for Eric; and a shotgun for Dylan. 1I:elli suted thae. RObyn ",as £elli"9 ve:ry iil'ilty about a""i"ting.",ieh tn. purchase of enese firearms.

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!talli "tated that on Weane"day, April n, 1"9, "n. called Robin eo see bo", she 101&$ doi"9 and told Robyn that "h. would be eollling over to Robyn'" !lOI1lll. aboue 11,00 to 1l,30..... !talli and !ler lllOu.er, !tn. t.oclii PatUnOA, arrive at !lobyn's ruid,me.. ae approxi...tely 11 :30.... The r ....oo tor 9'oi"9 over to Robyn'" houae ",as to <:onvinee !lobyn eo eell !ler "",ther about the finaJ:1lUl purchued by Robyn for Eric Harris and Dylan ll:lel:lold.. !talli leated that when they arrived at. llobyn'" hQUlle, 1CA!:1li ....ne up to Robyn'l room "'lUle Mrs. patter.on spoke ...ith Robyn'. mom. Robyn'. mQm we=e eo anawer a telephone ca~l and Mrs. Patee~son SQes to Robyn'S room to talk wi th Mlli and Robyn and convince llobyn to eell her "",m allout eAe guns purchuecl. According to M:n. UtterlOl1, Robyn il feeUn9' guiley allo"t the firearms purch.ased tor Harris and laebold. Mrs, PatterSQA and ll:elli are told by Robyn thae Eric Harris and Cylan ll:lallold told her they .....re going to bunt with t.he firearms. l\round ehis eime, 1I0byn" _ comes upstairs and Robyn begins to tell her mom Go"e t:l1" 9'\111'1 purehuea. ll:elli and ber lIIClIl go downseai.... and ...a it. After .. shore p..:icd of time, 1I0byn' s lllCll!l "'=.s downstain and tl1&nks K"lli &nO Mrs, Patterson to: CQt1Vineing !lobyn eo eell her aboUe the iiI'M ""reh....a for Buds and ll:lebola. Acco:di"9 to ll:elli I.l:ld Mr., !'attenon, Robyn's ecm .tae e s thae th..y will b.. COl1eacti"9 tbe polic...

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On ~hur.day, April 22, 1999, at approximately 10,30 am, Kelli stated that .he spok.. ...i tb Robyn. Kell1 informs Robyn ellat sh.. has spoken wieh 1nvesti9atcrs and with Jeff"rson CO\ll1ey authoritie.. Robyn info..... Kalli'thae sh.. also has spoken to il1"esti'ial:ors, After ehis QOl:lv..",sa1:1011 ebey "9r.... to go to th" church service. at C·~70 and Bowles at 5,00 pm.

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Repor~ of interview with Philip Joseph Duran. noB 11/28/18. on April 25. 15'5. ae hi. relidence l""aeed at 25'4 $. TIDnyson Wly. Denver, Colorado 8021~.

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On April 25, l'~t, Philip Duran was interviewed at his re.idence located at 255. 5. T=yson Way. Denver, Colorado.

2.

Hr. DurlUl _s Wo.....d l:ll&t there il evidence thet he W.. I involved in t!:le purchase of firearms by Brie a&r:ris and Dylan KleQQld and th..t he had supplied them with a TEe·5 piSCol.

3.

Hr. DUrin uated that he did l101: provide Silrris and Klehold "ith any firea""", but his friend Mark 14&11•• hlul.. Duran .eatK that he had been approached by Silrris and Klebold and had referred them to Manes to lequire the TEC" pi.tol. Duran Itated that he gIve Harri. and Xlebold. Henes' eelepbone number of {lOll '7"4S~' and to contact Manes directly for the purchase of the Intratee, TEC·'. ~\llII\ piltol.

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Duran statea tl1at Mane. had purchased tl1e =.~ piltol approxi...tely 6 eo .. yUI: ago at tl1e gun .how locaeK at tl1. Marl: at I-25 &11Cl. 58'" avetll>. in cenver. colorado. Accol:d1l1i to Duran, Man•• and he had t<e11 the TEC" up in el1. _ains to a location ~ a. Rampart ancI. ahoe it a numb.r of times.

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___________-------I-RIPORT---NU-III---------------_ llampan ..i.th Dunn, Man..s, Manes' girlfriend., Brie ltIlrrb and Dylan Kle.bClld sbooti.:Q9 the UAal:U ued ill tbe CCllWl1l:lil1e !ligh $ebelol abootil1g. Dur stated that be me.. of .the vi.
Dur"" at"ted that tall l ••t ti_ bll b&d been SMCll::i:Q9 wi th Man.. wu 3 ee 4 ....xs hat...,. l:l:1e sboCll::il1g ineidel1t at CCllWl1l:lil1e !ligb SeMCI1. Duran fu.rtl1e" statlld. that be bu b••n shooeil1g ..itb Manes l.n the pas", at l u n 2 ti.... a IDOlitb fo:c a 1C1li9 J:lun:l st.ted that h. has b.en shoo"'ing Wita Erie ltIlttia. Dyle KlebClld. and Ma:ck Manes at l.as", 2 or 3 times.

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llut_ ."'ated that Mark Manu lives off of II. Ald."" ..ita his parents ..hieb is n...."l:ly tCl where llutan's parelits live.

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llut"" s",ated that Erie ltIlrrb iand tlylan Klebold gave him $125.00 ..hieb ..as to be ii","" to Marle Manes fol:' "'he u1e ot t.ll.e n:C-S, s"'" pistol. This ll\Oliey was tile I:>alanee owed to Manes troll ltIlrris .....d. lCl.e!l01d.. Duran atat"d that he gave the lllOney to Manes. Ouru. further stated that Erie ltIlttia and Dylan Klehold had met ..ith Ourarl and Man•• at tha gun abow locaud at I-2S and 58'" Avenue &lso mown as the Ma:ct.

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Curan si.gned an affidavi.t SUttClW>llll19' tbeu ei:cet.llUt&liees and

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REPORT OF INVESTIGATION

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i, ion Director Pheenix Field Division

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DD/Pheenix Field Division

Mar""" C. Ifc:leee

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Repo:e of ineerview wieh Robyn AnAerson, 0011 1114/80, on April 24, 19'9 ae the Arvada police oepartmene, 8').01 Ralseon Road, Arvada, Colorado, 8000l.

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On April 24, U9!I, Robyn AnAer.on was inurviewed by !ilIA Motee and Arvada Deteceive James Vond.erohe at the Arvada Police Department. ,resent at ehe inurview AnA.raon'. aetoruey Kichael Root, Tll.e irll:erview "as re<::crded and. vid"oeaped and ehJ.s info"""'d"" .... relayed to Anderson &ncl her attorney.

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And.erson seaUd that in Cecemller 199&, an I. S\lndI.Y, .he wu cCl1eacted viI. ""lep""ne by Dylan Itlehcld whe ul<ed her i f she would. be willing to !let them into ehe gun show ..t 1-:1.5 and 58'" Aven...... , l\Il.cIA!'rso" st:ated that ahe WQuld and Itlehcld and site Harris c..... to her bou.e eo pick her up ucl bring her eo the gun show. Anderso" .tned ehat it .ppeared. fr01!l cOlWenaeian wieh lLU"ria and lClebold. ehae ehey had. been ae ehe gun .how ehe day before loolting aro\lnd. This would have bee" Saeurcllly. Anderaou fureher states that Itlehcld and lfarri. pic:ked. her up ae approxi....tely

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Andersoll. .tated thae lClllll:lold ana lfarri. had been ....rching eh. gun show tor private dealers .0 that they would Dot b.lI.v. to complete any paperworl<. Ac<::ording eO AnAu.Oll., after e"teri.... tbe gun show, nehcld. and kerh went direcely to • privau dealer. Tll.e dealer a.l<ed. lClehcle 18 years old chis eL.... lClehcld and aarri. naeed thae ehey hacl, Anderso'" .uees

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that she sheWed her drivers ll.e..,..,e to this l.nltividual a:tld afUr revi....l.n'i it., hallded it hack. Acc:ordin'i to Anderson. Harri. Or Klebold "sks the inltividual it l1e hu iitlyelting' "hot:ter then the sl1ot:gun they "ere lcoking ..t e<1 tile indiviold himself.

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Ande...son described this l.ndl.vidual as beill.'i an older ..l1ite .... 'i""y-whit. beard ..ith grey hair. heavy-.et. Ande".on .t..t"d that this individual r~ined .....t:i.rI!J the whole ti.... of the eran"..otion. N'o r"",eipt ..... giv.n for eh. sh""gun p"rehe....

5.

AnderSon stat:e. that they ....lk..d around the gun shoW for awhile looking for priv..te deshrs. '1'lley made cCl:Itact with ,"",ot:her priv..t:e ed together w~tb a large notebook binder clip and located in Anderson's purse, Ander.en doee not recall if she paid for t.ll.e shotgun Qr if .he g..ve the :noney to 1f&rr1. to pay for tlle shotgun. '1'lle dealer did not ask for any identification nar was a re.,eipt praduc:ed.

6.

Anderson de.c:ri1:le. the individual .... somewhat baldi"9 with .. roWld f ..ee . She c:ould not: recall any other feature.. Anderson furth..r st:..eed that tllis shotgun was for Eric Barris.

7.

And.....on Sl:at:ed that the of them wanderad around the gun .Ilow • .,m.men "",0. cont&<:ted anether privat.. deal..... Tlli. desler was .elling a black rifle. Thi. individual . .ked to see identific:atioll and after viewing it and chec:king witll a parey at the next t:able ~or v..rifl.c:aeion, gave it back to Andersoll. Anderson st..ted that: ehe rifle Wile in a box on the t:able wit:h tWC ...gadne clips. Anderson Itated that. this p=hlUIe was transacted like the previoul one ",ith Eric liarris. And.. rson hac! sarri.' _ey ea the binder clip and either she paid for th.. rifle or Ita:rb did. She does !lQt rec:al1. Ande..son <:ould nol: de.crJ..b.. this private dealer. Anderson It:at:ed that no receipt wal produced by this private dealer.

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Anderso'! further seated that Harri. and lUeloold bO\lght more ........."iei= clips and l.lIIOlUl:lition f%'OOl anot:her individudl t&lIle. Harris allQ p"l'c:hued a fQ1di"9 lenifo .. I: another table.

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ADderSQn was a.ked if .b. k:ew of any other attompts tQ purchase firearms by Eric: l:I&n-i" and Dylan lClebold to wbic:b she replied the .he
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Anderson stated that afte.. the purcha.e. wer. lOade, Klebold and Harri. left t:he gun show a:tld pr""eeded to Eric Ilarrh' hou.e. They dropped ltarris off witl1 his

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..l1ot:gun, rifle aDd ,..,,,ol1lJ:ldi... aDd pl:1Ooee<:\ed ee he" hou..... And""."", nates t:hat .h" drove lie" C"l." ee Dylan !C."bolel.· .. hOWle aDd !C.ebold drov" hi" car int:o th" g.....g.. lO.ebold. plae."" t:l1e .llotgw:l. UlIlie" hi.. jaol<et, 'J"alll:>."" hi. haS of mel."ol1lJ:ldise and •....:1t up t:o hi• ....all. And.""on statu that: !C.ebold. at:t:e"'IPts to place the .llot:gun in a dliess." drawe" in hi. bedrCOlll but it d.o.a l1U dilfllense" afee" ie ia ""\IlOVe<:\ bue it do ... lUlt fit:. And"..aou b"lieves !:.hat it is ever:.tlally plac"d in lO.ebold'" cloa"t. 13.

lIn""er.oe seat:•• that .h.. recall. t:l1e dae. of t:ll.e pqrcha•• of ell..... fir..arm. aa being in ~ec"mb,," bec..u....ha aDd Klebolcl. were planning t:o .tudy Calculus at hi. 1101.1•• b..e .." .... the finals fot" tlult ola. . wa. ll...::embu 1.6'" aDd 11'" with a mak.. -up day of Decemb..r 18"', 1.Ug. And.. rson believes ehn the d...ee of eb.e purch..... "",uld. have eo be Dec:ember 13 tJl. 19!J!L

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And.....en was shoWn a piceure f = t:ll." ""''''lfIIaper ",hiol1 d.epice. t:ll... 9_ carbine and .t..e,,
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Dl!l'ARTMENT OFTHE TREASURY

BURIAU OFAI.COHOL. TOIlACCO. AND Fl/lliAAMS

REPORT OF INVESTIGATION AODRliSSllD TO:

MIlNITORliD INVUTlGAl'lOH INFORMAMH'

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A1'l'llQVEll BY (TIIte aM OIlleO)

Cllriotcpher P. sadoWllIci

DO/Phoenix Field Diviaiou

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Repar" of inurview with Larry F. S~""" 0011 :l/n/u, at un '.Carle Street, 112, Denver, 80221, on ~ril 2B, 1555.

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On April 28, 15'5, S/A'. Motte and Gins interviewed Larry Snyder at his ..siden"e located at 7891 York St...et, 112, DenVer Colorado, 80221.

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snyder stated thalO he had gone 0 ..1: cof h.. dneu appro..i""'tely S year. lliO and cUd retain .OIM of hi. r,""o~s I'slated to !li. business. snyder .tat.d thet he had b.is pla"e of bIlsin••• located at 120 W. 70~ Ave., Denver. Colorado, B0221 I1%Itil h. left the firea:m. business.

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Snyder .tated that he ~s know a Larry Ru••ell who ..led to have .. firearma dealer b...ine•• locat.d next door'to wh.re he uled to haVe hi. bu.in.... Snyder .tate. that R....ell and he never had a buline.. tog.ther and their busin... ".re tlQt up and runnill'iJ at. the sa.... til!\l!l in the .lllIl8 lo"ation. snyder 1nciicated that he cUd not like the way Rus ••ll did ~s1ne.. .ometime. dua to not providing a re"eipt fQr every tl:"UJlaetion whe.. he cUd not have hi. lice... S..yder inciicated that l!.uonll had a lic.noe tor a whil., surrendered it, continued to ••11 firearms, and then obtained a license again. '

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Snyder was asked If he \lied any form of ....rkin...ysUIll 0.. the t1re.. l:o:>:e. he had in inventory. snyder "ltlted that ... _uld llIlLrl< the firea"", with a <::ir""lar

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Snyder pr<:>duc"d n_l:1:>WI ....cre1pt booa which celnu.i.ned Urun ul.... A. receipt of th.. transaceion ef the Intrateo, TEe-cc" 9mm pi"tol, "erial numb"r CO.1SQS was lecated. Th.. fir.. az= waa aold to a William Erwin en 2/1./9•• who identified himself with Cell<:lrado drive... licenae numbe.. K1'113. Erwin re"id". at 150-8 5. calif"rnia Avenue. tovelUd. Col=ado. Tl:le tan....cUe" "o=ed en rec.. ipt nlllll.bar 143663.

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Snyder ......d tl1at the l .. "t gun ahew he haa "teended was apprcximaeely 2 e" 3 ",,,nth. &9'0.

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DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY BUREAU Of Al.COHOL. TOBACCO. AND FJl<5ARMS

REPORT OF INVESTIGATION ACD_ED TO: _~~ision

MONITORED INVI!SnGATlON INfORMATlON,

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of Interview

Report of ineerview wieh Mr. William Irwin, .432 Sweetgrass Drive, Levelana, Colorado 80537, on Ap"il 2S, lSSS. 'I:P!!'hnYI t 1.

On -April 29/ 1999 J Mr. BrA!'in was interviewed at his residence located at 4432

Sweeegrass Drive, tQveland, Colorado, 80531. 2.

~~in staeed that he bad traded the Intratee, D~61S05, with the bo~ ie ~ame in and all ies

!EC-DC!, ~ pistol. serial number acc4ssorie., for other firearms ae

Grandpa's pawn & Gun in Longmcnt, Colorado. 3.

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Page 1 of

REPORT OF INVESTIGATION AllORESSal TO:

1 Pages

MONrTORI!Il INVES"llGATlON lllFORMAnON:

taion 'Oire<:t.o:r PnQenix Field Division

nn.e OFINVESnG",nOIl: columbine ai h school Shooei

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4/JO/99

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Report of interliaw with Mr. John Teeples, owner of Grandpa's PaW11 " Gun,

3~2

Main Street,

LOnqmQne, COlorado 80501, on 4/29/1999.

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1.

On April 29. 1999, Mr. JoAn Teeples, owner of Grandpa" Pawn' Gun, located ae 112 Main. StrHI:, Lotlgmclut, ColoradQ, was lnter,riewed At his place of businesa.

2.

T....pl..s was shown the S..ller's eill of Sal.. provided by Mr. !rNin for ebe transaceion of the Ineraeee. model TEC'DC~, serial numb.. r 0061506 and asked eo review his Acords as eo the t.ransaetion of this firearm and to whom: it. had. been sold~

3.

Teeples reviewed ehe information from the bill of sale and queried his computer for the aetails of ebe sale. Aeoording to Teeples' records, ebe TEC-9 was obeained ill. trade from Mr. William Erwin on 4/10/96, wieh the Ineraeee box it belonged wieh. On 4/10/96 th.. firearm was purohased by DaNae Sue Fortin, S46 South Sdinb~rgh, Lov"land, colorado. Te"pl... seated that Mrs. Fortin is l1is daughter, and ehe had purtbased ehe TEC-9 a. an invesement. T..eples state4 thae he eold ehe TEC-9 wieh it. original box and aetsssories to his daughter. Mrs. Forein ..

4.

Acoording to Teepl... r ..eords, on 10/17/97, Forein trad.a ehe TSC-~ wieh eh.. ori9inal box and accessories back t.o Grandpa f 5 iil'awn &\ Gun for a 14 carat. yellow gold. 1 tarat rinll. Teeple. seated that when he gees ie..ms in his seore that ..... a

OEPAl'lTMENT OF THE TREASURY BUReAuOF ALCOHOl.. TOBACCO, AND !'1ReARMS

REPORT OF INVESTIGATION - Continuation ShIMt TI1U! OFINVESTlGATlQN:

IRel'QRT NUMBeR:

CASE HUMSliR:

good investment! he conveys it co his daughter. Fortin thought the 1 carat ring was a better investment that the tEC~9 and therefore traded the tEC~9 for it. S.

According to Te~plesl recorda, the TEC-9 was wholesaled on lO!JO!97 to a Federal Firearms Lieensee identified as -Just Guns· located at 2957 West ;2~~, Weseminster, COlorado a0030, ~eeple3 provided a copy of ehe license tor ~Just Ouns N and indicated thae he was familia~ with the licensee, R~/Ce Spain and his associate Larry Russell. Teeples seated t.b.ae he was: noe sure who ;:ame in to pickup the -r'E:C-9 bue he does recall that it either had to ~ Spain and Russell together or aussell by hi.... "lf, Teeples di"s nqt re~all Spain ~omin9 into Grandpa'. Pawn &. GIm by himself.

5.

Teeples provided a copy of the AT~ F 4473. for eh. tran$aetion of the ~C-~ to his daughter, DaNae Sue Fortin on 4/21/96: a copy of RQy~e Spain's Fe~eral Firearms License d.h.a. Juse GunS; Spain's sales tax lic~se and business card.

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additional document that he Creates and maintains for

h.is recQrds whlll1 I'll! deals wholesale

in

firearms,

for the sales transaction of the TEC-9 And 3 Firearms

Li.cense~.

Royce Spain.

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firearms eo

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Guns·, Federal

The three other fire:arms are: Ruger, model PS9,

3mm pistol, serial number 310-76603; Thompsqn Center Contender,

.22 ~sliher long rifle with Bushnell snope, .erial number 1662; and a Colt, model 51'1, .223 oaliher rifl4. serial number SP14934S, The tr&na&ceiGns for all four firearms Qecur~ed on

10/30/1337.

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OEl'ARTMI!NT OF THE TREASURY BUREAU OFAl"COHOl.. TOIlllCCO, AND FlReAAMS

REPORT OF INVESTIGATION {4'

'BSSO TO:

O•.•sion Director Phoenix 11eld Oivision

Columbine High Sehool Shcoti E NUMBI!R:

78$025 99 OOlS

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lU!l'ORT NUMIII!R:

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REPORT OF IN\lES11GAl'lQy

COLLATERALI\l!PLY

RlI'ORT OF INTEl.UGENCE 8UIlIImEIl BY IN_J

SUBlilmEIl BY(Td1lJ am! omc.)

Marcus C. Meete

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REVlEWEl:l BY(MlmeJ

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APPROVEIlIIY (T1Ijo iIIld Offft::.)

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lield Division

Repor~

of Interview

SINOPU$:

Repore of interview wieh aonnie Lee Choace, via eelephone$ telephone number (970) S099, on April 29, 1990,

282~

1,

On April 29, U99, SIll. Moth was paged by Mr, Choate at approJdmatdy 8,50 pm, The page was returned to eelephone number {g701 2B.·BOg9, Mr, Choate'S residence and the ensuing telephonic interview was conducted,

2.

Choate stated thae be had been in Grand Junction. colorado for the day, returned home and his wife had told him that Sill. Motte had stopped by and asked him to Qall,

3.

Choate stated that he had not been sleeping very well sinoe the interview with S/A Motte and the realioatiolt that tile lli· l'oint rifle he had purohased and than traded was involved in the Columbine High Sohool murders.

4,

Choate stated that he still did not recall the date he traded I:he lli-l'Qint rifle but did state that in NQvember Qf 1998, he had been al: the Tanner Gun Show looated at : ..25 a.ad !$8~ Avenue in Oenve=. ColQrado, Cheate stated thae: he aid. trade the lli-Voil1t at the Tanner GIm Show to a man who was approximately- 40 to so years of age, Choate stated that Olt the November dotes of the Tanner GUn Show. he did rent some display tables and the Tanner Gun Show officials WQuld have those records. <:boate stated affirmatively that he had "already traded the Hi-point rifle Cor the Winohester 30-30 rifle pr1Qr to the November gun show.

JC- 001-008235

DEPARTMENT OFTHE TREASURY llUREAU OF ALCOHOL, TOBAcCO, AND FIREARMS

REPORT OF INVESTIGAnON - Contlnuatlon Sh..t

Page 2 of 2 Pages

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Choate stated that when he traded the ai-point rifle for the Winchester rifle. he went to the Tanner Gun Show exclusively to trade it and remembers that he did not have a table rented on this day. Choate stated that in September 1338. he ·.ent antelope hunting in Gillette, wycmi~9 <~rk~ Choaee further s~ated that in October 1993, he went elk hunting in western Colorado in area 421. Choate added that the trade of the ai-Point for the winchester had to have occurred in late September or early Octoher H38.

and tock employeeta from his

7.

ChQaee stated that aC the November; Tanner Gun Show, on the dates he rented a nu.mber of tables, he wu aCQcmpanied by a friend of his, Con Bingham.. Choat a further stated that Mr. Bingham is a cone~aceor in Orand Junction, Coloraao who

owns Bingham Painting and provided nis telephone number of (9701 243-7177, S.

Choate was uked by S/A Mott.e to :r;'l!:search the dates he went hunting so eJ:1a.t a. daee

for th" Hi-Point trade transaction "",,1<:1. b" pinpointed.

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OEPARTMENT 01' THE TREASURY

e~REAlJ

OF Al.COHlJl., TOBACCO, AND FlRill\Rl,l~

PaS" 1 of 1 page.

REPORT OF INVESTIGATION -;

ElSSEllTO:

Oivision Oirector Phoenix Field Division

Columbine lIi"h School shootin" I CAS£NUMBi!Il:

1aS025

~9

COla

l"Y1'l!OF RIil'OIl:T: X

RllPORT NUMlli!ll:

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024

(eh..,.,,_ _I CQUAT'l!AA~RI!l'~Y

RI!l'ORT OF INVI!S't1GA't10H RllPORT OF 1NTl!WGl!HCl!

SlJIlMI1'T!O BY (N_,

5 U B _ BY lTd/<>""; 0_1

5lJl1MI1'T!OBY (D"',

Marcus C. Mocce

SA/Denver I _ BY iJ'i1lfl and 0IIlcIt)

lmI_

_ I Y (NlfI1le)

Gerald r. Petrilli

,

APPROveD BY (Namel

4/30/~9

RAe/Oenver ! av ("1'Rkt anet OtfiCe)

av (DaIO)

APFROVl!ll BY (0."1

APPJ1l.OVCD

i DO/Phoenix n"ld Division

Cllrist=b"r 1'. Sadowoki

Report of !neerview sntPPS1:" ~eport of in~ervie~ with Mark Man." Colorado a012a, on 4/30/1999.

DOS 3/45/77

1

6002 W. Alder Avenue

j

Lietleton,

1.

on.April 30, 1999 ae approximately lO~2S a.m., Mr. "an•• ~a4 inearviewed ae ehe Bureau of Alcohol, TQ~ceo • firearms office loeaeed at 1561 Stout str~t. Sui~e ~30, Oen","r, Colorado $0::102, by Sp".,ial Agel1t M...·""" c. Motee. I'r••.."e at the intervi.... was Mr. It<>....rt: RaIl.o..... attorney for Mr. Mane., Speoial Agent Larry Krisl, wafferson county Inve.tigator Kate 8antam &tid Jefferson CQUl1~{ Assi.tant Di.triot Attorney Brian BQatwright.

2.

Man"s stated tbat he had purobased Che Il1trateo. model TEC,OC', 9mm pistol, serial number l:l~7'30S. fro.. tba T"""'''r GW1 Show located ac 1-25 and 58'" Avenue in Denver. cQlQradQ, also known as the Merchandise Mart. Manes stAted ehae the purchase ocourred in the .ummer/fall of 1998, from a private dealer he identifies as 'a91e

j

Ente.rprisel ~

3.

Mane. produoed a USBank .tat.....nt for the period of July 23, 1998 tbrough Augu.t 24. USS, which showed the lI\QIletary tr...."aol:'iou amount of .Hl.OO on Augu.t s. use. In ...eparace ool\lll1l1 of the p=ll&lle line a dace of August 2, un w.... refleoted and wbioh list. Westminster, Colorado. In tbe fi~st oolumn, the .tatement refleets tha purobaae .... l>a1.o.9 frolll !asle bterpri.... Mane• •tato
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REPORT OF INVESTIGATION - Conllnuatlon Sheet TlT'U! OF IHVISTlGATION:

I

REPORT NUMBER:

! 4.

Manes stated that h. recalls purehasing \:he n:C-9 on Sa.turday; Augu.st:: 2 , 13913 and at the time ot. the purchase he was aceompanied by his fi:'iend. erian Dis"Cel and

Oisealls older ,tiroeher or $tep-oroener. Manes does not recall the name of Distal's older brother/step-brother. Mane. seated that boeh individuals were present at the puroha.e "f eh" nC-9. Manes seated that h. purohased the TEe-9 for $491. 00. 5.

Man•• d".oribed the individual that h" purchased eh. TEC-9 from as b"ing in hi. lot" oO's, short grey hair and could not recall if this indiVidual had ony facial hair. Manes seated that he coul~ id=nti!y this individual if he saw h~~ again. Man". stated that this individual ~ one table ae the gun sh"w and had 3 or 4 TEO9 ' s on display. Manes does not recall any .other individual at this ind.J.vj.d;ual's table. ManAs $eaeed ehat he also purchased from this same individual a barrel ext.ender e-ube fot' the nC-9 and a. 30 round m.aguine clip. These purchases were conduceed with Man•• ' \1SBanl< debit card of Which be has !:lad f"r "pproximate1y l ;0 yean,

IL

Mant'lls stated that S.rian Distal drove his car cc the gun show that: the three of them attend.d, Ma.t1l!!• •tate. that h. has _ Oistal f"r approximately 5 years. Man". was asked if he purchas.d any alllIlIll.ltieion from the gun show and h. stated that ee

did ""t. but Brian Oi.tal did from aart Brother• •port• •t""e at 1I0wlee .

~a4sworth

and

7.

Mane. "as a.ked if there was anything e1s" about the gun show purthase of the TEe-9 ehae he rememb.rs, Man.s stated that tlle pla.ti" e...... that t!:l. TEe-9 cam.. in had a different ."rial numb.. r than th.. o"tual fir"arm did. Manes states th"t this black plastic gun case wi~ Ineraeec on it had a white/blue aeieker label with the wrong serial number on it. Alao on the pla$t.ic gun case was a blue sticker approximately one quart:er inch rcunc1. the: size of a. paper pun=h. with no writing on. it. Hanes stated that on the r.".ipt provid..d by Ea91. Ent.rpri.... the c"rrect serial number pe~tainLng eo the TiC-i, aerial number 0076305 was writeen.

S.

Man"s stated that the l"ot time h. had .pok"" with lIrian Oista1 was a c"upl. of nights after the e"lumbin. High S"h<>ol incident.

S,

Manes ...... asked for additi"nal information about the Tanner Gun ah,," and provided that eh. acimissi<>n f.e t" entsr was $5.00. This was the first gun show h. had atte~d"d and Brian Distal who coll"cts guns ana hunt•• askea him if he wont.d to go alol19 with him and llis brother. Manes ag....." """ 9"- Mane. stated that ene price of firearms at gun. shOWI is cheaper thaA retail atQre:s. Manes s1:ac.ed thaI: at. the eabl. where h.. bought th" TEO-S. the individual !:lad displayed 3 or 4 TEe-s· ••• MAC-U's and .. ppr=i.... te1y 5 "r & handguns,

10,

Manes stated that the d"al"r did l10t make much eye c<>nta"t with him at ehe time of the purchas.. and furth"r described him ao havinq a wrinkled face, 5'S" to 5'5" tall and heavy .et. This indiVidual " .... _uing a 9"ld ring on his dibt hand and " ..ariI19 a wh.ite huttoll up typ.. shirt, Manu indicated that the time "f purthase was approximately 2.00 p.m. Manes added that th" TEC-9 also had a 12 round maqa%ine clip in the !lox,

11.

Mal1e. stated that aft..r th.. gun show, they dr<>pp"d Distal's or"""h,,r off ot his

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DEPARTMENT OFTHE TREASURY

BUl'EAlJ OFALCOHOL roascco, AND !'lR£ARl.lS

REPORT OF INVESTIGATION - Contlnuatlon Sheet TTT1..E OFIIlViS'1'1GAnOll,

I

R£PORT NUMBER:

-------------hOU$e Colfax Avenue and Sheridan. nea~

going

.hoo~ing an~ ~ec1de~

Manes stated that chey were thinking abOu.t.

not to.

12,

Manes remembered that he spent over $300.00 tor the TEC-9, $60.00 tor the barrel extender and $4$.00 tor the 30 round magazine.

13.

Mane. initially indicated that they had gone shooting the next day but aftor reviewing the bank statemene date realized that the date he attended the gun show must have been sunday, August 2, 199$ and therefore decided that they had not in fact sane shooting the next day.

Manes: sta.t.ed that they I'rlust: have S¢M ShoO-tin.;

that ....... day. 14.

Ma:u.'ls staeed that they Went .hoQti.11g around Rampart .a.nd indieatlis iliae it is doWl'1, roxton Road to 67, to Platte River Read. anci eventually eo sUg'ar creek RQacL Manes atated. tha.t they 'Ilene up a small 'ltalley and shot the: nC-9 and Brian Distal, he believes, shot hi. Oe.ert Sasle, Manes _~ated that he shot allot hi_ ammunition excepe for ten rQu:cd,a ancl Brian sbot all of his ammunition.

1$.

Maoe" lias asked lihat type. of fireaX'1llS die. he have and he stat",d that !:te!:tas a

Ruger, .45 caliber pistol and a Ruger. mini·30. l~.

Manes was "ked who his shQQt:in9 par::ners ?ire: and he: ita ted that Ph.il Oum.. BriaJ:t Greg MareilliQtc are his shooei~g p.rtner$~ Maae$ stated that his girlfriend, Jessie Miklich was presene when they went shooting of three oeca$ions~ Oist~l.

11,

Manes stated ehae he has gene sho~tin9 J times with Eric Barris and 2 times of those three times. Dylan Klebold wer= present.

18.

Manu produced a reCeipt for JanUAl:Y 23, 1399, Manes stated that this receipt ..as for the purcha.e of the Ruger, .45 caliber pistol that !:te hought at the Tm.. r Gun Sh<>w on this date. Manes _tate. that Phil Duran, Phil's dad ar.. at the sun show, Man.s beUeves Phll'. brother is also present but is not sure. Duran ha~ told Manes earUer that t .... guy. fro", hi. wcrk mgltt be showing up at the sun .how and are int.rested in his TlllC-9. Eric Harris and Dylan Klellold show up at the sun .haw

and are introduced eo Manes.

=-9.

Ouran states to Manes that Sric Harris is interested

in buying th. Whil .. lialltitl9 around the sun .llow, Harris and lUellold ask """'es ahoue the TEC-9, so Manes .haws !!a=io and Klebold the TEC-9'. he .ees around the gun show iUid points out the one he- has and ita accessories. Rarris and ltlebold a.k Mane" haw much he want. tcr the TEC-9 and Man.s tell. them $500.00. Rarris and lUellold asree. Manes states that !!:arris !:tad to go to work and .0 do ... Duran so it i. aqreed that Duran will give Klellold Manes' cellular telephone number, and lUellold will oall Manes later that lOVeA1n9. 19.

M.anes aeac:ed that priQ:r to everyone leaving, Harris and nebold. purchased ammunition at the table nexe to wh..re Mane. had purcha.ed llis Ruger, .4$ caliller pi.tol, Mane• •tates that he ..... info=-d by Kl.bold and aarris that they got a goed priee fc:r ammunition and Manes also buys some ammunition.froM this table. Man",. .tated that he was requuted tr_ th'" person at the table to show ideneification &ad states that he dcesAlt know if Sarris or Xlebold were asked fer identification,

JC·001-00 8239

OePARTMENT OF THE T!'lEASURY aUREAU OFAl.COHOl.. TOSACeo. AND FlREAIlIdS

REPORT OF INVESTIGATION - Contlnuallon Sheet ,.... ! OF INV.STIIlATlON'

____________________I_RUO __IlT_N_U_Mll1!ll _ _' 20.

_

Afte.. leaving- the SJUII'l .how, Mane.. i. dropped. off at hi. resilience W. Ald.... Avenue. Littleton, Colorado. Mane• • tated tl1ac OU....n had 5:00 p.~. Manes .taced ehat H.....i. an
located. at .002 to b.. Ole ....,..k at Blackjack Pizza .11 wo.. ked

tQge~her.

21.

Mane• •tates ellac ac approximately .:00 to 5:30 p.~. he i. called. by Klellold on nia cellular phone. Klebold aaks if ehey are goiug to go ahead. ...ith the sale and Mane.

says yes and gives

diree~ions

to his resiaence.

Manes

sea~e$

chat Klebold comes

<:Ner. ring. the lleU an
the $l~O.OO, Manes states that no ~eceipt was siven at this time bue had told KleJool" tl:lat he would give him a r.ceipt when the n;:c-~ ..... paid i" full. Manea "tated that ari.". Distal .".d Greg Marcilliott .how up at hi. hou.e with .ome beer and he invite. them into his bed.l:oam.. Ma.nes introduces Distal and Marcilliott to ICle.bold and all four have a beer: togeeher. After the beer !Q.e.bold decides to leave. Manee walks him eo the door and dctla: not se. what: Klebold is driving:. Mal:le• •ca"... that he t.lls Di.tal and Mar"illiott chat h. has sold the TEC-9 to Kl.llol" for $500.00 and tha" $:00.00 i • •cill owed. Prior to leaving, Kl.l:lold tells Mane. that h. would call him on Mane.' cellular phone when he had the 5:100.00. ••.

Mane. state. that tWO weeks later. he and Duran went shooting at Rampart with !la.... io an
23.

Manu SUt. . tl:lat !;he ••<:oM time he goe• •hooting. lla....ia come. up llut Klel:lold has to work. Mane. stat•• that Illl.... i. ba. the TllC-9 h" sold them and ehe Ili-Point. $llllI\ rifle. Mane• • tated !;hat !;hi. second time .hooting ",a. one we.k after the first time they .hooting tog.ther with Klel:lold and Harris. Mane. further stated tha~

we""

Phil Applegate wa. present, Brian

O~stal

was present

~

had brQughe along two

M-l! rifl... Duran >Ia. pre...nt but did eee bav. a;ny firearm. an
that this process was a common one

~inee

they

wen~

shooting almost every weekend.

Manes states that the third time they went shooting with Harris &Qd Klebold was wlu!n the vi....c tape "'as ""'lie. Manes suced tl1ac on March 5, 193$. Duran an
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Page 5 of

REPORT OF INVESTIGATlON - Continuation Sheet

6 Page,

AEl'O!lT NUMBER:

dad did, so he did not have any firearms with him. Manes stateS that they were joined later by !ria Karris and Oylan Klebold and had hroughe along the TEe-9. Sometime during the target shooting, Harris and Klebold brought oue ewo sawed-off shotguns. Manes described the shotguns as !:laving the barrels and stocks cut off and ehat One of the shotguns was a p~ a~tion and the other a double-barrel.

Manes seated ehat he shot the pump shotgun al\4 told liarris and Klshold thae they had beeter hide the shotguns in case anybody ~omes by, ManeS stated that the video equip"",,,e used belonged to COll.Ullbil:le lUgh seaecj, and was hroughe up by liarris and Klebold. M=ee furth,,,: .taUd ehat D1.l.r
Manes $tates that he presumed :hey b.a.d scolen them.

Manes concluded that.

they U$ed ere•• and bowling pins for targets on this shooeing day. 25,

Manes recalls thae Kle.b.old or Harris .aka if Sri.." Oistal wants eo seU his SKS r1fle. Duran and Manes ask Oistal if he 1. interested in selling the SKS rifle eo Harris al:Id Klehold and Oi.tal .tates he doe. not know if he wants to sell it. Manes .eked if he has any information regarding any ammunition and Kanis.

pur~hased

M/IIJ1es st:a.tes t "The night before the 'Columbine Massacre I

~

by Klebold

Thursday I

hefore ehe 20~ of April,· Harris called Mane.' house from his house and .sked Manes to pur~...e so.... allllllWlition for his _ . Mane. seat:ed that he would and would call hiln back that evening. Manes forget;s &bout the ammunit.ion purchase and hrti, calls back on Mcnc1ay I Apri.l 19 oJl • Mane. forgets again and at. approximately a: 00

p. ra , he is caUed by Karris.

Man....

feel b..d ne has "ot purohased ie for him and

d.ecides eo 90 immediately to purchase the 9mm atnl'll'U.nit:.ion. Manes atates that S:a.~is wanted 2. cox•• of $mm amrmmition. Mues goes to lC-Mart: near his house and purchases 2 boxes of ~mm ammunition for Harris and 1 box of .4S caliber ammunition for himself. Mane. st.."". that be pay. "ith his debie card and on the way home he ca}ls Harri. to meet him at Manes' house to pickup the ammun1t:iou. Ma.ne~ states that he waited in the dl:iveway of his residence Imtil Harris shows up. Harris pay'S

Manes $2$.00 for the 2 boxes ot ammunition and they talk. Harris t ..lks shout the Mar1l:l... all4 they discuss this for awhile. Manes asks Han'is if he "as goil:lg .hooting eotlight and Harris says _yhe tomorrow. 27.

Manes ..... ...ked how old does he think you have to be eo bUy ammunieion? Manes stated that: be ehoug-ht you h..d to be n years old, aaeee was asked why would Klebold or !larri. oontact him to buy ammunition. Mane. replied that you had eo be 2l yean old to huy ammunition. Man.,s..... informed that you h..d to he 1a. Mal:Ies stated that he helieved that Klshold and Barris were 18 year. old and seniors in high school. M..nes ....S informed that Dural:l had told him that Klebold and Harria were both 17 years old. Man.,s st..ted ehat after the Columbine atgh School sbooeing. ""as when Duran told. him. tha.t; Ele.bQld. ana Hal:'ris were 17.

..

Atter some

discussio", Mane...dmitted that he ....umed that H..rri. and Klebold were both 17 years old bas.,d on them not being- able to purchase firearms and ammunition, Manes "as sbown the receipt from a K-Mart store located in Littleton, Colorado whi~h reflected the .ale of allIlIUl:Iition on 4/19/1399. Mane. admitted th..t the pureha• ., of ammunition reflected on the reoeipt shown to him ..... hi. purch...e of the Smm all4 .4S caliber ammunition that be bought for Rarri. and himaelf.

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BUREAU OF Al.OOMOl. 1'C8Acco, /
REPORT OF INVESTlGATION - CQntlnuallon Shut ...--e Ol'IHVU1'1GAnON:

2g.

Manes staeed chat he spoke with Duran once or twice after the incident. Manes al~o stated that Matt Jackaon and Or.. Marcilliott stopped by his house • few day. afeer the Columbine High School ahooting and they talked about "om::e"",,, that Manes had that he had aold the TlC-' and ammunition to Harris and Xlebold.

30.

Manes waa asked if he had any E-mail addresses and he stated that he di'l. !oWl... staeed that he ~d a computer a~ home~ one at work and his parenes had & computer too. Manes atated that his E-mail address 4t hom. is shubfdonverlink,cQm and the a-mail addrea6S at: work is IThIrkldataCQ@'stc;orp S;Qm. ManeS seated. that, he ga.ve CQnsen~

tor law .ntorcemene officials to view his E-mail records and anythins else

on his computers.

31.

The

ossank statement, a receipt dated

reeained as

eviden~e.

~terview

Jan~1 23, 1999 and a huainea. oard were completed at approximately 1:30 p.m.

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JC· 001.008244

DePARTMENT OFlriE TR!'ASIJRY 6\Jfl!AlJ OF Al,COHOl., T06ACCO, AND I'1f!l!ARMS

page 1 of

REPORT OF INVeSTIGATION Oivisio~

Pho~ix

1 Pages

Oirector

Field

Div~sio~

Columbine liJ.gb. School Shooting r CAS2HUM_

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DD/Plloenjx Fielo Division

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Inte~iew

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Report: of i:c.eerview wieh Ron Hartmann and Jim Washington, at the Fedllu,"al S\1t'ea.u. of tnvestlgation offioe located in Oolorado Springs, Oolorado, on April 30, 1999,

1.

On April 30, lU9, Mr. Ron lIArt_ and Mr. Ji.. washington were interviewed at the FBI of:ice in Colorado Springs,

2.

llartm and washington seate tbat Stevens, 11IQoel HUl, U .. auge, double-harrel shotgun by Savage, serial number A077513 was sold to an 18 year old f=male on Novembe" 22, 1998. This 18 year old female had just turned 18 a few weel<s prior and her ""''' was confirtlled by h"l: Colorado drivel:' s lioense, Aooording to FBI

Sp who ac:COlllpanied her, they ar.. SO, sure it was Dylan lUebold. 3.

The sal.. of the shot!l'U' w. . c:onduc:eed by Anderson who paid for the firearm ill. c:asl1 wllic:h she prO hi......lf.

4.

An F'SI 102, R..port of Interview i" atcac:hed wiCh a full narrativ.. of the "vents

surrounding this firearm traZ>Saotion.

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05/03/99

On 04/30/1999, James Royce Washington (PROTECT IDENTITY), also ~~own as Jim Washington, 6020 Snowbird Drive, Colorado Springs, Colorado S091S, a whice male born 12/21/1947, Social Security Account Number 237-70-9180, voluntarily appeared at the Colorado Springs Resident Agency. Washington was accompanied by Ron F. Hartmann, also of Colorado Springs. Also present during a portion of this interliew was Supervisory Senior Resident Agent Gregory B. Groves. After being advised of Che nature of this interview and che identicy of the interviewing agent, Washington provided Che following information: Washington is employed as a Senior Investigative and Security Specialist with the Defense Securicy Service (DSS) , 1935 Jamboree, Suite 170, Colorado Springs. Washington has been with the DSS for 17 years and has a total of 26 years of service with the Uniced States Government. Washington advised that he is an avid gun collector and often goes to gun shows Co sell, trade or purchase guns and supplies. Sometimes he will take his daughter along with him to shows. In lace October 1997, Washington met Ron Hartmann because they lived near one another and Hartmann had brought Washington his guns from a show in Pueblo, Colorado, which had to be canceled due to the blizzard ~~ Colorado at that time. Since both of them shared an interest L~ gun collecting L~d frequented the same shows, they agreed to start going to shows cogether and sharing the expenses of obtaining a booth or table. In addition, one man could watch the table and their inventor/, while the other one walked around the show to see what was available. On the weekend of 11/21-22/1998, Washington and Hartmann went to the Tanner Gun Show at the Denver Merchandise Mart in Commerce City, Colorado and set up two tables together. On Sunday 11/22/1999, Washingcon did not have his daughter with him; it was just he and Hartmann at their tables. On Sunday afternoon (11/22/1999), washington was sitting in a chair facing to his right, lcoking at Hartmann. Washington guessed that it was sometime after lunoh. Hartmann 04/30/99 ,14' 174A-ON-S74:l.SI by

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was talking to someone across the table from him when a young female and a young male approached their tables and began talking to Hartmann. Washington stated that Hartmann was standing and he recalled Hartmann aSked the female for her license and saw the girl give it to him. Washington could not see the male clearly due to the vertical gun ra~~ on the tables, which blocked his view of the male. He saw the Eemale clearly. He stated that he even looked up when he heard Ron say something like "You don't look 18". Washington advised that sinoe the shootings at Columbine High School in Littleton, Colorado, he now believes this female to be Robyn Anderson. He described her as having shorter hair than she has now, as determined by her photographs on the teleVision and in the newspapers. Anderson was wearing jeans and a light colored top. She had a shoulder bag, possibly of denim material, which had a flap but no snaps. Washington stated thae after the shotgun was sold, Ron Hartmann handed the gun to .~derson, but the male took it. He heard Hartmar.n say something to the effect of 'it's nice of you to carry it" to the male. As the couple walked away, Hartmann turned to Washington and said "That girl just turned 18." Washington stated that he had no recollection of the male because his view was blocked by the gun rack and there were several people around the taOle at this time, some of whom were asking washington questions. Neither Washington nor Hartmann could identify anyone around their tables who could provide any additional assistance, Following the initial newS reports about the shootings and the weapons involved, Washington did not think anything about this particular show and their sales of guns at the TL~er Gun Show. He wondered who had sold the weapons which were used in the shootings. After Robyn Anderson was identified and her picture appeared on the news, Washington immediately recognized her as the female who had purchased the shotgun from Hartmann. He telephonically contacted Hartmann and told him of this fact, but Hartmann did not believe Washington at first, because the news reports did not mention thee Anderson had purchased the shotgun.

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174A-DN-57419 James Royce Washington Washington stated that he wished to cooperate fully with this investigation. Washington does have concerns for his personal safety due to the nlli~erous leaks of information to the media about ~~e progress of the investigation. He feels that nartmann legally sold a shotgun to an 18 year old individual and did nothing illegal and cannot be blamed for what happened at Columbine High School. Washington fears that if his identity goe oue. people would attack him or his family and vandalize r~s home out of vengeance for what happened. He does not believe people would act rationally toward either him or Hartmar~ if their identities were divulged. Washington could provide no additional informacion at this time and the interview was terminated at this point.

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05/03/99

On 04/30/1999, Ronald Frank Har~mann (PROTECT IDENTITY), also known as Ron Hartmann, 3835 Blazingwood Way, Colorado Springs, Colorado 80918, a white male born 08/08/1939, Social Security Account Number 150-30-9559, voluntarily appeared at the Colorado Springs Resident Agenoy. Hartmann was accompanied by James R. Washington, also of Colorado Springs. Also present during a portion of this interliew was Super;iso~/ Senior Resident Agent Gregory 8. Groves. After being advised of the nature of this ~nterview and the identity of the interviewing agent, Eartmann prOVided the following information: Hartmann served 20 years in the Armed Forces, with his time split between the united States Navy (1957 - 1961) and the United States Air Force (USAF) 11961 - 1977). uoon retirement from the USAF, he became a oivilian employee of the United States Government, first at Fort Carson in Colorado Springs and then with the Defense Logistics Agency in Ogden, crtah. Due to downsizing on the part of the United States Government, when the program he was assigned to in Utah was shut down, he retired from the Government and is ~~rrently unemployed. Hartmann advised that he is an avid gun collector and has been for most of his adult life. Hartmann enjoys going to gun shows because it is usually a good gathering place for serious collectors and he has gotten to know many individuals over the years. Sometimes he goes to these shows to look around and see if there is anything he wishes to buy or trade for and sometimes he gees and sets up a table or booth and sells some of his guns and associated supplies; such as knives and reloading supplies. Hartmann described the shows in the Fall and Spring as being the best ones to go to in order to buy, sell or trade items. Two to four times per year, Hartma~~ will set up a booth or table and sell items. In addition to this, he estimated that he attends about six to seven shows a year when he is not selling. Mostly he sets up a table or booth at the Sartoma Gun Show in Colorado Springs and a few shows, including the Tanner G~~ Shows at the Merohandise Mart, in the Denver area.

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by

SA Keith H. Howland

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In the Fall of 1997, around the time of the bli4zard, both Hartmann and Jim Washington, had set up individual tables at a gun show in ~ueblo, Colorado. Hartmann was staying in ~ueblo and Washington had oome down and set up his table on Friday and had returned to Colorado Springs, Due to the blizzard, Washington could not return to Pueblo and the ShoW was canceled due to the conditions, Many dealers had displays set up but could not ceme and retrieve their guns for sOme time. Hartmar~ told the coordinator of the show that he would take Washington's guns back to Colorado Springs with him and return them to Washington, as long as someone else inventoried them before Hartmann left. This was dane and Hartmann met Washington for the first time when he returned Washington's guns to him, Due to their mutual interests in guns and in going to these gun shows, they decided to begin going to the shows together, rather than separately. During the weeka~d of 11/21-22/1996, Hartmann and Washington went to the Tanner Gun Show at the Denver Merchandise Mart in Commerce City, Colorado. They set up two tables side-byside at this show. At eaoh end of the tables, there was a horizontal gun rack containing a few quality guns with a sign saying "00 Net Touch", Which either Washington or Hartmann would pick up and display to a potenti~ buyer. At the very oenter of the table, straddling the two, was a vertioal rack oontaining older guns, whioh Hartmann called "beaters', whioh the public could handle if they chose to do so. Hartmann advised that at this show, they had approximately 12 to IS guns for sale in addition to knives, scopes and reloading supplies and e~~ipment. Hartmann advised that on Saturday (11/21/1996), there were a lot of people at their tables, but they did not sell much invsntory. On sunday (11/22/1998), there were a lot of people milling around; mere than normally observed on a Sunday according to aartmann. Hartmann advised that if you were standing in front of their tables looking at them, washington was on the right side, sitting on a chair facing to his right and Hartmann was standing 9n the left side. Hartmann believes it was Sunday afternoon, sometime after lunch, when a young female came up to their tables

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Ronald Frank Hartmann

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accompanied by a young male. The female stood facing Hartmann and the male stood with one arm resting on the vertical gun rack in the center of the cables. the female said to Hartmann, "r would like to, buy that shotgu..'1." Hartmann said "This one here, the double barrel?" She replied "Yes." He asked 'How old are you?" and she replied '18". He stated that she was very young looking and so he asked her for some identification "Can r see your driver's license?' Without any hesitation, she reached inco her wallet produced a Colorado Drivers License for Hartmann to see. Upon inspection, Hartmann determined that she was in faot 18 years old, just having passed her birthday a few weeks before the show. Hartmann stated that the price tag on the shotgun said $245.00 and he told her the price. The female pUlled out a wallet from her bag and counted out the money. Hartmann stated that as best as he could recall it was mostly sao bills and there were no large bills in che total. She handed him the cash and he counted it out. Once he was satisfied that she had paid the correct amount, Hartmann reached for the shotgun and removed it from the rack and handed it to her. At this point, the male accompanying her, reached over ar.d took the shotgun from Hartmann's hands. Hartmar~ said he made a statement to the effect of "Are you going co be a gentleman and carry it for her?" and the male replied "Yes." Hartmann described both the male and female as being nice looking kids and had no reason to question them. He described the male as being about 5'11" tall, since he is S'10", and the female as being about $'6" or eo. The male was taller than the female. The male was wearing a dark, short-sleeve shirt. Hartmann could not recall what the female was wearing at the time. He just recalled that both were clean-cut. Hartmann went on to say that the female had blond hair, not real long and she a ro~~d face and was of medium build; not skir~y, nOt fat. He also described the female as being timid in her deme~~or. It was Hartmann's impression that she was nervous because she did not aak any questions I1bout the gun. Hartmann put this down to the fact that she had never purchased 11 gu..~ before. After their transaction was completed, the couple left liartmann's tables and wa.lked away. Hartmann turned towards Washington and remarked "Tha.t girl just turned 16,"

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174A-DN-574J.9 Ronald Frank

Har~mann

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Hartmann advised that he did not initially think about this incident following the tragedy at Columbine High School until Washington called him On the telephone to remind him of the girl. After ~he media coverage of the shooting and his discussions with Washington, Hartmann now believes that the female who purchased the shotgun from him at the 11/22/1998 Ta~~er Gun Show was Robyn Anderson. He is 100% sure of this. He is also 80% sure that her male companion was DYlan Klebold. Hartmann also advised that he has an image in his mind tha~ while he was conducting the transaction with Anderson and Klebold, across the aisle from his tables was a young ~Ale holding a pump shot~un, who appeared to be waiting for them. Hartmann could not identify this male. Hartman stated that the shot~un &~derson purchased from him was a Stevens Model 31LD, 12-gauge double barreled shot~un, serial number A077513, with a 28" oarrel and the choke .....as full and modified. Har~mann also advised that the shotgun was mechanically in geod condition, had a walnut stock, the finish was good and that the bluing on the barrel was very streaky, as if the original bluing had worn off and someone had tried to reblue it. Hartmann was able to determine this from some old records he keeps for insurance purposes. Hartmann stated that there was no paperwork produced for this sale and no receipt was given or asked for. Hartmann advised that he had personally purchased this gun sometime before this show, but he could not determine exactly when and where he had done so. Hartmann stated that he keeps a record of the manufacturer, the model numbers and the serial numbers of all of the guns he has for insurance purposes and is constantly updating these records as he bUys and sells guns. When he updates his records, he discards the old records. Hartmann advised that once they left his stand, he did not observe them again. He and Washington did gun shows the following weekend in Colorado springs (Sertoma); in about February 1999 in Colorado Springs and the T~~er Gun Show at the Denver Merchandise Mart in March 1999. At none of these subsequent gun shows did Hartmann observe either Anderson or Klebold.

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174A-ON-51419 Ronald Frank Hartmann Hartmann stated that while he is reluctant to be providing this information, he felt an obligation to do so. He wanted it clearly understood that he was coming forward as soon as practical After he became aware of the situation that the shotgun which he sold in November 199B, was sold to Robyn Anderson accompanied by Oylan Klebold. He ~~ressed ooncerns for his personal safety due to all of the leaks of information being made to the media. Hartmann stated that he made a legal sale of the shotgun to an individUal, 18 years of age or older, and had broken no laws. Hartmann is afraid that if his identity is somehow released to the media, he will become a target for vengeance and will be viewed as responsible for the tragedy at Columbine High School. Hartmann turned over to the interviewer a hand·drawn diagram Which he had used while describing the layoue of his booth and the positions of all parties at the time of the sale of the shotgun. In addition, he advised that the table behind theirs was oocupied by the Golden Gun Club and when you faced outward, to their left were three tables full of ammunition being sold by some people from Pocatello, Idaho. Hartmann had no additional information and at that point the interview was terminated. He did advise that if he reoalled any additional information, he would oontact that the interviewing agent.

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Repore of interview with Phil Duran, DOB 11/28/7&, on May 10, 1999,

1.

~hil Duran was re-interriewed at the Oenver AT? office lQcate~ a~ 19&1 Stout sereet, Oenver, Colorado. Present ac this interview· were Phil Duran and his attorney Mate OePetro, ATF S/A'! Marcus Mette and ~a~ Krisl and Mark Paucler of the Jefterson County District Aeeorney'$ Office,

2.

OU4an ~a3 asked about his relationship with Eric Harris and Oylan Klebold ~d stated that Rar~1s worke4 as a ~ok at Blackjack iizza and had been prior eo Ouran

On May 10, 1999,

workins there. Klebold was alao a ~oek and had been aired there approximately 1 months ago, Duran seated that he had been hired a Blackjack pizza in January or February of 1998 and had worked there as a driver, cook and mana~er. 3,

Duran stated that he had been approached by Klebold and Harris to purchase them guns on 2 o~ 3 oc~asions. Duran stated thae he told them he would not purchase guns for them because he did uot wane his name on any paperwork for ~heir pu~=hase. Duran seated that he had been approachea by Harris and Klebold on 1 occasion to purehase ammunition but ha4 not purchased any for them.

4

Duran stated that he believed that Barris and Klebold were 17 Qr 18 yea~s old. Duran stated that he did not ask them now old they were but seaced that you had co be lS year. old to be a driver at Blackjaok Pi••a. When asked by Special Agent Moe~e if ouran assumed that Harris and Klebold were 17 y.ar~ old~ Ouran seated 'Yes', Duran stated that he felt that e~ reason Harris and Xlebold asked him to

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purcnase firearms was because he was 21 years old. Ouran also seated :hat nobody has asked him to purchase guns for them besides Harris and Klebold. S.

Ouran ~ell

sta~ed

that he

~old

Harris and Klebold that he had a friend who may want

ltis1'EC-'9 and gave Mark Manes I home phone number.

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Duran staced that: he cold

Manes that Harris and Klebold would be calling him to purchase ene 7EC-9. Duran seated that t~e time ~eriod of this conversation ar.d the giving out of ~anee' heme telephone number had occurred around the en~ of Fe~ruarl or t~e beginni~g of Marc~ Ouran further stated that app~oximately 1 eo 2 ~eeks later, Harris and ~~ebald gave him $12$,00 to s~ve to M~~es for the balance of money owed on the TSC~~, Duran states th.e he gave the money to Manes ~ho thanked him.

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Duran stat~d that he has known Mark Manes far approx~mately 7 years. They ac~~n~ed columbine gigh School ana Color.QQ'. ~inest ~tornative High Schoel tcgecher. Duran stat~ that tne l~st time as spoke with Manes was on Sacuriay, May at~, 1~99 Ou~an geat~d chat they did ~oc talk about the shooc:~g, jusc about how eac~ was doing.

1.

Duran stated that Manes purchased the TEC~9 approximately 6 months to 1 year ago ~t e:e gun shew, Duran state, that it ~as in the $Ummer or fall of l3~e, Ouran Itat.~ thae h~ attended a gun show with ~anes in Oec$mber 1998 or Sanua~1 or February 1999. Ouran recalls ~at hi. :ather was also presene. Ouran stated that he had told Harris and Klehold that he and Manes >~uld he going eQ ehe sun show and Harris and Klebold seated that they would meec the~=. Ou~an states that aarris and Klebold walked around the sun shew with. Manes. and. himself and Manes pointed out ehe TSC-9'9 thac were displayed at the various cables and explained to Harris ana Klebold what his TEC-9 was like. Ouran seated tha~ Manes boughe his .45 cali~er handgun at this gun show and believes that aarris or bought a kn~fe f~om a de~le~ chat sold knives and swords. Duran stated that it looked like Rar~is and Klebold had bouShc other items frQm ehe bag they carried PUt be i$ not $ur~. Ouran s~ated th~ Manes caught a 20 to 30 round ammunition clip for the TSC~9 ac this gun show. Duran seaeed thaI: Manes filled out ~e appropriate paperwork for the purehase of the .45 nandgun and they had to wait approximately 1 ~ hours for ehe t~an$action to b" compLeced ,

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Duratl was asked abOUI: carse!: shooting up at Rampart: Range .ana stated t::hat he had. been shooting 3 times at 2amoazt with Harris and Klebold. Ouran seated tnae the first. 'time they '<'lene shooting '",a.s around the end. of February. Harris and Klebold brought up the HiPoint rifle and i:he TEe-9. Duran stated that on the 2= target shooting day occurred around the beginning of March, Rar~i$ and Klebcld brought up the same e~o weapons, HiPoint rifl~ and TEC~9. Duran seated chat all the shoocers would meet at Manes' house and earpool up to the target shooting signt. Ouran states that Harris ~d KlehQld stated on the evening befare at Blaokjack Pizza or

on ehe morning- chae they were going eo go shoot at Rantpart;: for the third time, that: ehey had a surprise to show when they arrived at Rampar~. Duran recalls che date to be around th~ middle of March. Duran stated that the $urprise turned out: to be t'.olO sawed off si10tguns ",Mell llan:is ""'d Kl"bold proauced from a blaek duffle bag. On. Wa$ a pump action shotgun and the oeher a double barrel break~open shotgun. Soth shotguns haa th" barrels ana the steeks out QQwn. Duran stated tllat Elan-is predominanelv shot the PI.U11p shetS"" ""'" Klebold shot th" aoubl" barrel shotgun. Both Harris ~nd Klebold had cuts on the webbing af their hands from the reaoil of

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the shotg"Wls.· Ouran stated thaI: 1Ue.bold had the worst. cut e i ce e it 'Has CCi"lst.ant:2.'t bleedin~. Duran staeed t.hat Harris and ~ebQld both shoe t.he tEC-9 and Harrk3 ~

mostly shot the ,HiPoine rifle. Duran stated chat Karris ~cated t~at th~ Hi~oint belonged to his uncle or cQusin. Duran said he ~$ke~ Harris and Kle~Q1Q ~her= :hey goe the shocguns and they weuld not tell him. Ouran assumed they got t~em E=om his faeher or were posai~le stolen. Ouran further stated ~hat he believes he drove Karris and Klebold up in his car co ~ampa~ He further states tbat he bel:eves that he transported Har~is and Klenold'g firearms in his ca~ at least once, )uran fu~ther

staced that they always went shcQeinq on Saeurday's ae cne

location.

Also brou9ht up to the Rampart location was

t~e TSC~9

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and

~he Hi?oi~~

rifle. Aeeordin~ to Ouran. the individuals that were present on all three $hocti~g events were Har=is, Klebold. Jessica {Manes' girlfriend) and himself, ~~ran st~ted that he never broushc up any firearms because he did ~cc own any. 9.

Duran seates that on the third ~ime ~hey went shoot ins. ~ar=i3 ~nd K:e~old br~ush~ up a video camera and eilmed them shooeing at the aa~are locacicn. Ouran ieaced that he did most of =he filmins but c~a~ Manes did some :ilming teo, Duran sca~~d ~hat Manes asked for a copy of the video tape from Harris and Kl~cold a~d a ~~cv ~a$ prQvi~ea to Duran who ~atched it and gave it to Manes. Duran seated :hat CIne occasion vhen gar:::'s wae shooein9 a l2 gauge slug: into a tree: he stated, "::: THOnder what that would do to a person-, Duran stat~d that they ~ould shooc at oranse tarqec stickers thae they aequ~red at the Oiddyup & Go store that is locat~d approximae41y 5 miles prior co the entrance eo Rampart. Duran stated that the directions td e~e store were southbouna on aighway as eo the Sedalia tu~ ~f~ sign. Take a ~isht aDd the road ~Q~ld taka you ~o che stOre and fur~her up the road would be Rampart entrance. Duran staeed ~hat Harris and Klebold ~Quld brins bowlins ~ins from their bOWling class to use as targets.

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was asked when eh. was ehe lase time he saw Harris or Kle~ola and ne stated that he saw ~ebold picking up his paycheck ac Slackjack Pizza aPP~oximaeely April 9, ~1999 or sooner

11.

Ouran stated that he heard from his girlfriend cristina Applegate, that Mark Manes had come over ~Q thai: nouse either the day of Qr the day after the Columbino shootins event and was visibly di$traughe ever ehe incident. ~his was due eo Manes' involvement wieh Harris and Klebold and the TEC~9 sale. Duran fur~her s~aeed chat he knew ehat Manes had purchased 9mm ammunition for ffarris and Klebold ~he day before the Columbin~ shooting.

12.

O~~an

always

seated that Chris Morris is a close friend of Karris and Klabold and they ~hung ~ut~ together.

13.

Duran was asked if he had any computers and he replied that there are two eomputers at his house out they belong to his roommates Brian and Angel pytlinski uu=an stated that he has a new laptop but obtain~ it appro~1mately one month ago~ ouran gave his permission for any computer searches. Duran seate4 ~hat Angel py~l~nski also worked at Blackjack Pizza as a driver and Brian Py~linski works for either BPI or BPS at ColoradQ compueer company.

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Ouran eoncluded that he had overheard one day while at wor~ at Blackjack Pizza. Harris stating thae K1e~old or Rarris had umade up" wi~h Brooks.

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OEFARTMENT OF THE TRl;;ASURY BUREAU OF A.LCOHOL.., TOBACCo ANO FIREARMS

1961 Stout Street, Suite 630 Denver, Colorado 80202 December 20, 1999

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This is to infDr~ you of the status of the Columbine Shootlng investigatlon by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco & Firearms in relation to the firearm portion of the invest:igation, To date, a search of the Bureau of A.T.F. Federal Firearms Licensee's database is being conducted and compared to the Tanner Gun shDw list for the dates that the three (3) long guns were purchased by Anderson for Harris and Klebold. Once this list has been generated, the current or past FFL's names that match the Tanner Gun Show list will be contacted via interview by inspectors of our agency. These inspectors have been given a list of questions to ask these present or past FFL's and requested to review their bound books, if applicable. This search of information is to determine if Anderson is subject to a federal felony if an ATF For~ 4473 (yellow form) was completed or if an FFL is subject to a federal felony if the firearm transactions were conducted 'off paper". There is also the possibility that the three (3) transactions were conducted by a private party's and if this is the case, no one is subject to any criminal penalties. I will keep you informed as this portion of the investigation continues. If you have any questions please call me at (303) 844-3421.

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Mike Close, ~ark Meadows Security, Park Meadows Mall, (720) 231-2824, was advised of the identity of the interviewing agents.and the purpose of the interview. Close pro'~ded the follow~ng:

Close was shown photographs of the knives carried by 8ric Harris and Dylan Klebold. Close advised photograph number 1135 is known as a "Cobra" knife and can be found at Pawn shops. Knife number 1142 is known as a cold steel throwing knife and can be purchased at Cutlery Plus in the South West Plaza shopping center. Knife number 1145 could be purchased from a store called Today's Personal Protection, next to the ~~tlery Plus at the South West Plaza shopping center. It can probably also be purchased at the Army Navy Surplus store near Hampden and Eroadway.

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4/30/99 Bill Boss, Owner, Naked Edge Cutlery, Southglenn Mall, (303} 795-7191, was advised of the identity of the interviewing agents and the purpose of the interview. Boss provided the following: Boss was shown photographs of the knives oarried by Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold. Boss advised that knife number 1145 is a generic knife and costs approximately $19.95. Knife number 1135 can be purchased in catalogues and Eoss has not seen knife number 1140. Boss stated that store policy will not allow anyone under 1$ to purchase a knife.

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Bud Kinch, Owner, Cutlery Plus, South West Plaza shopping cerrt e r , (303) 973-9569, was advised of the identity of the interviewing agents and the purpose of the inte~liew. Kinch provided the following: Kinch was shown photographs of the knives carried by Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold. Kinch advised that kn~fe number 1142 was probably a Valor, United or Fury brand, knife nu~ber 1135 was a Cobra brand probably made in Pakistan, knife number 1140 was a cheap Taiwanese knife and knife number 1145 was probably a United brand knife. These knives can be purChased for approximately $20-30 each. The Cobra knife is illegal to sell because of the metallic metal ~~uckles. Kinch has never sold a Cobra knife. Kinch stated that store policy will not allow anyone under 18 to purchase a knife. Kinch advised that a year or two ago the owner of Today's Personal Protection Center, now known as MACE Personal Protection Center, had a Cobra ~,ife confiscated by the Sheriff. This store just recently moved to the Westminster Mall. It had been located a few doors down from eutle~J ?lus for about four years.

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Dave Hughes, Manager, ~~CE Security, Westminster Mall, (303) 428-8454, was advised of the identity of the interviewing agent and the purpose of the interview. Hughes provided the following: Hughes was shown photographs of the knives oarried by Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold. Hughes advised knife number 1135 was a Cobra knife. Hughes advised they havent sold these knives for years. This k.~ife can be purchased at ~Jn shows and on the Internet. Frank Brawn, the owner of MACE, was arrested several years ago for having a Cobra knife for sale at the Westrr~nster store. Charges were dropped. Knife number 1142 is sold at MACE for approximately $39. The Ninja throwing spikes sell for $10 for a set of three spikes. Hughes didn't reoognize knife number 1140. Hughes thought a knife like that could be purchased at a gun show or on the Internet. Knife number 1145 is a knife that MACE does not currently stock. Hughes advised their computer system orashed approximately one month ago and their entire customer list was lost. MACE has a policy of not selling knives to anyone under ~8 years of age.

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05/03/99 On 04/30/1999, Ronald Frank Hartmann (PROTECT IDENTITY), also known as Ron Hartmann, 3835 SlazingwQod Way, Colorado Springs, Colorado 80918, a white male born 08/08/1939, Social Security Account Number 150-30-9559, voluntarily appeared at the Colorado Springs Resident Agency. Hartmann was acccmpanied by James R. Washington, also of Colorado Springs. Also present during a portion of this interview was Supervisory Senior Resident Agent Gregory 8. Groves. After being advised of the nature of this interview and the identity of the inte~liewing agent, Hartmann provided the following information,

Hartmann served 20 years in the Armed Forces, with his time split between the United States Navy (1957 - 1961) and the United States Air Force (USAF) (1961 - 1977). Uoon retLrement from the USAF, he became a civilian employee of the United States Government, first at Fort Carson in Colorado Springs ~~d then wlth the Defense Logistics Agency in Ogden, Utah. Due co downsizing on the part of the United States Government, when the program he was assigned to in Utah was shut down, he retired from the Government and is currently unemployed. Hartmann advised that he is an avid gun collector and has been for most of his adult llfe. Hartmann enjoys going to gun shows because it is usually a good gathering place for serious collectors and he has gotten to know many individuals over the years. Sometimes he goes to these shows to look around and see if there is anything he wishes to buy or trade for and sometimes he goes and sets up a table Or booth and sells some of his guns and associated supplies; such as knives and reloading supplies. Hartmann described the shows in the Pall and Spring as being the best ones to go to in order to buy, sell or trade items. TwO to four times per year, Hartmann will set up a booth or table and sell items. In addition to this, he estimated that he attends about six to seven shows a year when he is not selling. Mostly he sets up a table or booth at the Sertoma Gun Show in Colorado Springs and a few shows, including the Tanner Gun Shows at the Merchandise Mart, in the Denver area.

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In the Fell of 1997, around the time of the blizzard, both Hartmann and Jim Washington, had set up individual tables at a gun show in Pueblo, Colorado. Hartmann was staying in Pueblo and Washington had come down and set up his table on Friday and had returned to Colorado Springs. Due to the blizzard, Washington could net return to Pueblo and the show was oanoeled due to the conditions. Many dealers had displays set up but could not corne and retrieve their guns for some time.

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told the ooordinator of the show that he would take Washington's guns back to Colorado Springs with h~m and return them to Washington, as long as someone else inventoried them bef~re Hartmann left.

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first time when he returned washington's guns to him. Due to their mutual interests in guns and in going to these gun shows, they decided to begin going to the shows together, rather than separately. During the weekend of 11/21-22/1998, Harcmann and Washington went to the Tanner Gun Show at the Denver Merchandise Mart ~n Commerce City, Colorado. They set up two tables sid~-by­ side at this show. At each end of the tables, there was a horizontal gun rack containing a f~w quality guns with a sign saying "Do Not Touch", which either Washington or Hartmann would pick up and display to a potential buyer. At the very cent~r of the tabl~, straddling the two, was a vertical rack containing older guns, which Hartmann called "beaters", which the publ i c could handle if they chose to do so. Hartmann advised that at this show, t:hey had apprOXimately 12 to 15 guns for sale in addition to knives, scopes and reloading supplies and e~jipment:. Hartmann advised that on Saturday (11/21/1998), there were a lot of people at their tables, but they did not s~ll much inventory. On Sunday {11/22/1998), ther~ were a lot of people milling around; mOre than normally observed on a Sunday according to Hartmann. Hartmann advised that if you were standing in front of their tables looking at: them, Washington was on the right side, sicting on a chair facing to his right and Hartmann was standing on the leEt side. Hartmann believes it was Sunday afternoon, sometime

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accompanied by a young male. The female stood facing Hartmann and the male stood w~th one ar~ resting on the vertical gun rack in the center of the tables. The female said to Hartmann, "I would like to buy that shotgun." Hartmann said "This one here, the double ba.rze L?" She replied "Yes." He asked "Hew old are you?" and she replied "18". He stated that she was very yeung looking and so he asked her for some identification 'lean I see

your driver's license?" Without any hes i t ac i.cn , she reached into her wallet produced a Colorado Drivers License for Hartmann to see. upen inspection, Har~mann determined that she was in fact 18 years old, just haVing passed her birthday a few weeks before the show. Har~mann stated that the price tag on the shotgun said $245.00 and he told her the priee. The female pulled aut a wallet from her bag and counted ouc the money. Hartmann stated that as best as he could recall it was mostly $20 bills and there were no large bills in the total. She handed him the' cash and he counted it out. Once he was satisfied that she had paid the correct amount, Hartmann reached for the shotgun and removed it from the rack and handed it to her. At this point, the male aocompanying her, reached over and took the shotgun from Hartmann's hands. Hartmann said he made a statement to the effeot of "Are you going to be a gentleman and cazry it for her?" and the male repl ied "Yes."

Hartmann described both the male and female as being nice looking kids and had no reason to question them. He described the male as being about 5'11 11 tall, since he is 5'10 H t

and the female as being about 5'6" or so. The male was taller than the female. The male was wearing a dark, short-sleeve shirt. Hartmann could not reoall what the female was wearing at the time. He just recalled that both were elean-out. Hartmann went en to say that the female had blond hair. not real long and she a round face and was of medium build; not skinny, not fat. He also described the female as being timid in her demeanor. It was Hartmann's impression that she was nervous beoause she did net ask any questions about the gun. Hartmann put chis down to the faot that she had never purchased a gun before. After their transaction was completed, the couple left Hartmann's tables and walked away. Hartmann turned towards Washington and remarked "That girl just turned 18."

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Hartmann advised that he did not initially think about this incident following the tragedy at Columbine High School until Washington called him on the telephone to remind him of the girl. After the media coverage of the shooting and his discussions with Washington, Hartmann now believes that the female who purchased the shotgun from him at the 11/22/1998 Tanner Gun Show was Robyn Anderson. He is 100% sure of this. He is also 80% sure that her male companion was Dylan Klebold. Hartmann also advised that he has an image in his m~nd that while he was conducting the transaction with Anderson and Klebold, acrosS the aisle from his tables was a young male holding a pump shotgun, who appeared to be waiting for them. Hartmar~ could not identify this male. Hartman stated that the shotgun Anderson purchased from him was a Stevens Model 311D, 12-gauge double barreled shotgun, serial number A077513, with a 28" barrel and the choke was full and modified. Hartmann also advised that the shotgun was mechanically in goad condition, had a walnut stock, the finish was good and that the blUing on the barrel was very streaky, as if the original bluing had worn off and someone had triad to reblue it. Hartmann was able to determine this from some old records he keeps for insurance purposes. Hartmann stated that there was no paperwork produced for this sale and no receipt was given or asked for. Hartmann advised that he had personally purchased this gun sometime before this show, but he could not determine exactly when and where he had done so. Hartmann stated that he keeps a record of the manufacturer, the model numbers and the serial numbers of all of the guns he has for insurance purposes and is constantly updating these records as he bUyS and sells guns. When he updates his records. he discards the old records. Hartmann advised that once they left his stand, he did not observe them again. He and Washington did gun shows the following weekend in Colorado Springs (Sertoma); in about February 1999 in Colorado Springs and the Tanner Gun Show at the Denver Merchandise Mart in March 1999. At none of these subsequent gun shows did Hartmann observe either Anderson or Klebold.

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Hartmann stated that while he is reluctant to be providing this information, he felt an obligation to do so. He wanted it clearly understood that he was ooming forward as soon as practical after he became aware of the situation chat the shot~~n which he sold in November 1998, was sold to Robyn Anderson accompanied by Dylan Kleoold. He expressed concerns for his personal safety due to all of the leaks of information being made to the media. Hartmann stated that he made a legal sale of the shotgun to an individual, 18 years of age or older, and had broken no laws. Hartmann is afra~d that if his identity is somehow released to the media, he will become a target for vengeance and will be viewed as responsible for the tragedy at Columbine High School.

Hartmann turned over to the interviewer a hand-drawn diagram which he had used while desoribing the layout of his booth and the positions of all parties at the time of the sale of the shotgun. In addition, he advised that the table behind theirs waS oocupied by the Golden Gun Club and when you faced outward, to their left were three tables full of ammunition being sold by some people from Pocatello, Idaho. Hartmann had no additional information and at that point the interview was terminated. He did advise that if he recalled any additional information, he would contaot that the interViewing agent.

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On 04/30/1999, James Royce Washington (PROTECT IDENTITY), also known as Jim Washington, 6020 Snowbird Drive, Colorado Springs, Colorado 80918, a white male born 12/21/1947, Social Security Account Number 237-70-9180, voluntarily appeared at the Colorado Springs Resident Agency. Washington was accompanied by Ron F. Harcmafu', also of Colorado Springs. Also present during a portion of this interview was Supervisory Senior Resident Agent Gregory B. Groves. After being advised of the nature of this interview and the identity of the interviewing agent, Washington provided the follOWing information: washington is employed as a Senior Investigative and Security Specialist with the Defense Security Service (DSS) , 1935 Jamboree, suite 170, Colorado Springs. Washington has been with the DSS for 17 years and has a total of 26 years of service with the United States Government, Washington advised that he is an avid ~~n collector and often goes to gun shews to sell, trade or purchase guns and supplies. Sometimes he will take his daughter along with him to shows. In late October 1997, Washington met Ron Hartmann because they lived near one another and Hartmann had brought Washington his guns from a show in Pueblo, Colorado, which had to be canceled due to the blizzard in Colorado at that time. since both of them shared an interest in gun collecting and frequented the same shows, they agreed to start going to shows together and sharing the expenses of obtaining a booth or table. In addition, one man could watch the table and their inventory, while the other one walked around the show to see what was available. On the weekend of 11/21-22/1998, Washington and Hartmann went to the Tanner Gun Show at the Denver Merchandise Mart in Commerce City, Colorado and set up two tables together. On Sunday 11/22/1999, Washington did not have his daughter with him; it was just he and Hartmann at their tables. On Sunday afternoon (11/22/1999), Washington was sitting in a chair facing to his right, looking at Hartmann. Washington guessed that it was sometime after lunch. Hartmann investigatiun on

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was talking to som~one across che table from him when a young female and a young male approached their tables and began talking to Hartmann. Washington stated that Hartmann was standing and he recalled Hartmann asked the female for her license and saw the girl give it to him. Washington could not see the male clearly due to the vertical gun rack on the tables, which blocked his view of ehe male. He saw the female clearly. He stated that he even looked up when he heard Ron say something like "You don't look 18". Washington advised that since the shootings at Columbine High School in ~iteleton, Colorado, he now believes this female to be Robyn Anderson. He described her as having shorter hair than she has now, as determined by her photographs on the television and in the newspapers, Anderson was wearing jeans and a light colored top. She had a shoulder bag, possibly of denim mater~al, which had a flap but no snaps. Washington stated that after the shotgun was sold, Ron Hartmann handed the gun to Anderson, but the male took ie. He heard Hartmann say something to the effect of "it's nice of you to carry it" to the male. As the couple walked away, Hartmann turned to washington and said "That girl just turned 18." washington stated that he had no recollection of the male because his view was blocked by the gun rack and there were several people around the table at this time, some of whom were asking Washington questions. Neither Washington nor Hartrnafu~ could identify anyone around their tables who could provide any additional assistance. Following the initial news reports about the shootings and the weapons involved, Washington did not think anything about this particular shOW and their sales of guns at the Tanner Gun Show. He wondered who had sold the weapons which were used in the shootings. After Robyn Anderson was identified and her picture appeared on the news, Washington immediately recognized her as the female who had purchased the shotgun from Hartmann. He telephonically coneacted Hartmann and told him of this fact, but Hartmann did not believe Washington at first, because the news reports did not mention that Anderson had purchased the shotgun.

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Washington stated that he wished to cooperate fully with this investigation. Washington does have concerns for his personal safety due to the numerous leaks of information to the media about the progress of the investigation. He feels that Hartmann legally sold a shotgun to an 18 year old individual and did nothing illegal ~~d cannot be blamed for what happened at Columbine High School. Washington fears that if his identity got out, people would attack him Or his family and vandalize his heme OUt of vengeance for what happened. He does not believe people would act rationally toward either him or Hartmann if their identities were divulged. Washington could provide no additional information at this time and the interview was terminated at this point.

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An Er.tryream was formulated by Commander Sullenberger with the followmg members. #!) Brad Frcde:rking, #2) Rich Den1i. 11'3) T/l. Tom Wici<:11an, #4) Mark Hemmghous, #;) Jeff

Kessler, #<;) Rick French, #'1) Nathan Vasquez, #8) Greg Lefebre, #9) Bill Palmer, ~1O) Stove Hcadl.y, jl Ii Pat Wyton,;;12) Kurt Weiler (s:;ribe), #13) John Smith. AssistanlSWAT CommanderRobert Sllll.nb.rge, and Fred Gerhardtset Jp at the SWAT van, along with :'iegotiators. Mary Manka, Larry Gibson and VickiBresnahan. SWAT members Darin Joke, Mike Cody and Scott ),loms woreat scene, but not authorizedentry into Ih. High Sc'tocl, umij they completed their basictraining All members were briefed with the following information: The", was unexploded ordinance, some of wnich had tireas, inside of rhe school as w¢ll as the possibility ofbooby trap', n '" as benevcd thaI there were 25- 29 dead students insid" of the school, which included 2 dead

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SIlS~CI$. The 2 dead suspects were dead in the Library, with wired devices on their person. While the team " •• being briefed, fOD was inside of the sehoollooltill.!!. for devices and removing them. At the time .t was unknown lfthere were any other sludents or suspects hiding inside the school. Columbine H.S. is J. v¢t'j' wge school (sec attached map) with numerous catw$llk.~. T~ 2' dead suspects were current students and it was assumed that any other suspects may be students also. School maps and one of me suspects photol,'raphs were given to team members (see attached).

The followill.!!. is a ellronelogi<:al sequence ofevents: I &30hrs

T'lIO. devices located in the sch¢ol by EOD. on. of which as described as being quite large SWAT members were evacuated 10 IbenOl'lh for safely. OnN the device",..' removed, merohe... returned to the ;;WAT Van

18J5llrs

Team Leadersfrom BPD, BSO, Thorton, Nor.hllienn and Adams County met, where itwo. decided tb~ BPD and aso would make enIl"f into the school from 1M S;W and enter 1M lowe!' leve: into the cafeteria. aso agreed to clear the classrooms to the south, while the PD cleared the cafeteria. The two teams would then meet 3..1d clear the auditorium that had catwalks. This was a basic plan that was sub]ect to dU11lge during the search,

18S0hts

Three tearn members were sen! to pick-Up (0<><' foe the team from the Salvanoa Army truck, north of the SWAT Van.

1009hrs

C.P advised

aso and BPD SWAT 00 deploy to the S:W comer of the school and

prepare fot entry. 1912hts

Both teams deplcyed from thcBPD SWAT Van,

1930hr.

Eon still inside of the school and "bout to exit the building, ream Leaders were advised that a member from EOP would be assigned to each team, prior to entrv being authorized.

1?J1hr.

C P advises all Team Leaders tilalthey are to mark zoob door with • magic marker. to indicate that the room had been c.eared and which agency had cleared the room. Teams could also mark the floor tile. with this information. Bresnahan and Gibson relayed mali'c markers to 9PD SWAT.

1945hrs

EOD still inside, attempting 10 disarm two devices.

20001m

EOD still inside, unknown when entry would be authorized

20Z0hts

EOD located a vehicle in the parking lot with multiple devices. Due to the number orEOD personnel needed on the whicie.there were not enough members available 10 b. assigned to ca<:h team,

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202 Ihrs

Bomb dogs being used On the exterior to check the parking lots and grounds .or possible devices.

204Shrs

Cl'. Insn"cted the team scribe to pinpoint the location of all suspects/victimson the mal' for Jefferson County Investigators

20,5hrs

c,1', advises that there are major delays "'\In deactivation of devices located by HOD,

2lOOn...

Explosion- lOOD explodad a device with a secondaryexplosion,

2115hrs

C.I'. advised the entry team to r<$pOnd back to the staging area, Entry not 10 b. mad. for 1,5 to 2 hours, due to devices inside Columbine High School.

2130r.rs

Comrnendce Pelle come to stas!"ll area and briefed the learn on the reasons 'or pulling the teams back 10 their staging ereas and additional infbrmaricn.

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13 children and I teacher in the school, acccrdiag to the Coronet. Earl:rSWAT Teams were successful In extraction _ number of srudent and did • preliminary clearance. At last count, 30 explosivedevices and 1 h..svrly armed car bomb ($/E lot) had been found, Threats received toward ather schools in the area for the next day 2 suspects believed dead inside, I arrest, 1·2 other suspects/associates, CSP SORT Team and ReserveDeputies holding tht; inner perimeter. Second SWAT sweep needed in conjunction with EO]) 10 thoroughlY clear the interior of the buildmg Including rafters, catwalks, ect fOD had reported that some cf the devices have been sophisticated, inclu<.ljn~ timing devices and mercury switches Jeffco Crime Scene Tech's will lake over the scene, once the sweep is completed.

2200hrs

Team advised rhat 31 explosive dev.ces had been located by EOD. This consisted of pipe bombs and gasolinebombs, where fOD was currently removing 1 devices front the cafeteria. At the time there were 13 students. 1 teacher and 2 suspect, dead inside of the school. Teams were not expected tv make entry for I hour

221Shrs

Lam.' Gibson. Vickl Bresnahan and Mary :Vlank. were advised that negoti.to:, 'Were no longer needed and were released,

2225hrs

C.P. advises all teams that entr/ will be made in 10· 15 minutes, An EOD member woul<:! be assigned to each learn to search the school.

22J5hrs

Explosion. EOD· accidental detcnation in bomb trailer Three explosions. " ' injury to EOD member, but was blown off the bomb trailer.

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2240h<>

Team member equipment check (lights and radios).

1300hr,

Jefferson County EOD E·4 assigned to gPO SWAT and E·S to BSO SWAT

230Ihrs

BPD SWAT and BSO SWAT deployed to etltry point

2306hr,

All teams authorized entry into the school,

23l0hr,

"II teams placedon hold till AiF is cleared from 1Mschool.

23'6hr. 232gh,s

aso SWAT reports a pipe bomb located in 'h. cafeteria. EOD moved forward and took conncl of'tae device.

C04Shrs

Cafeteriacleared.

COSShrs

BPO SWAT exits Columbine High School

OW3hrs

CP, advises all teams to meet at the pavilion for debriefing anc tor team scribes to turn over their map. to Jefferson County

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BPO SWAT en route back to the Boulder Police Department.

NOTE:

This incident was debriefed on Wednesday. Apnl 21, 1999. psychcrheraprst Marilyn Kruegel apoke and hand.d out a Helpr.! HillIS list to all SWAT

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