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and saw a trench coat student he identified as Dylan Klebold. He made this identification from being familiar with that student from seeing him in school at times COmbined with the news media Putting a lie sai
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from this bomb. lie thought this bomb may have been the object he saw Dylan throw when he SaW Dylan on the Hill although a Illinut
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He then went to his table, grabbed his backpack and ran out the south doors of the cafeteria. As he was going out the doors. he looked back west and saw who he thought was the same suspect he saw throw the object, Dylan. walking down the bottom of the stairs like he was going to go in the west cafeteria deors. He ran south and did not S
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lie thought he was one of the last students to leave the cafeteria. lie only remembered wearing jeans and a e-shirt the day of the shooting.
* He did not see anything in the suspect's hands when he saw him on the hill and dewn the stairs. *
He ran sout.h and east to a home on Polk Street that had a classroom set up in the garage. He heard more explosions during that time. lie then ran home to call his mother. The phone in the garage was not working se he ran next deor to a neighbor's, Mr. Tony Martinez, where he used his phone to call his mother. (His mother thought that she got his phone call at work between 12: 30 and 12:45 p.m.} This concluded my interview with Anthony Sammauro. Mr. Sammauro then told me that he talked with his neighbor,
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Martinez, who has a son nal\\ad Cory that goes to Columbine. Mr. Martinez told him that when he found out about the shooting, he went to the school and tried to get in the front door to cheek on his eon. Mr. Martinez told him that he was being 'shot at" when he went up to the front deors. lie provided Mr. Martinez' phone number. 303-933-7327.
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ControlNo 3023 FBI Case #4.DN.57419 CEl Case 1#991-0185 Jefferson County SO 1#99-7625 Reporting Agent(RA) Jay Alsup 690 Kipling SI, Denver, CO 80215 (303) 239-4649 Wrtness: Robyn Sarafini 8100 W. Hoover Place, Littleton, CO, (303) 979-5827 Action Takea: Robyntold the il.A that she was in the cafeteria. whenthe incident occurred. As soon as she heard shots, she ran out one ofthe doors, however,she was not able to identify which door she ran out of. Robynsaid that she did not see anyoneget shot, she did not seeany bombs Or bomos exploding. Robyn said that she does not know eitherone of the suspects and did not see them on the day of the incident. Robyn said her screen name is "BYNSK166". Robyn also stated that she does not have an lCQ number Robyn did not have any other significant informationto share in this ease. Jay Alsup, CBLX:
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Docket N'ulIlber' Case N'ulIlber, 99A062 Investigator, DOYLEL IIJ
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JCSD CASE 99-7623
Reporting investigator, II. J. boyle, is a commissioned peace officer employed. by the District Attorney in the Fint JUdicial District serving Jefferson and Gilpin Counties. I am currently assigned. to assist in interviewing witnesses from Columbine High School. On May 14, 1999 I
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Date. 5/12/99 CONTROL NttMBER' 3018
On 5/12/99 I interviewed 15 year old CBS student Megan Schoenbi,;"n at her home in Littleton, Co. Megan's mother was present during this interview. Megan stated she was in the CHS cafeteria around 11:20am on 4/20/99. She eats "A" lunch. She had come from Me Layman's math class prior to entering the cafeteria. I showed Megan a drawing of the cafeteria and the tables depicted in it. I pointed out a few items in the drawings to help explain the lay-out of the drawing. I asked Megan to point to the table she sat at. She pointed to table "Z", and stated she sat with Carmie Diehl and Stephanie Wise. Megan did not see any unusually large duffle bags in the cafeteria, or see anybody carrying a large duffle bag on 4/20(99, or the previous day. Around 11: 25am she heard gunshots outsid.e the west windows. She described these as sound-ing like firecrackers. Everyone in the cafeteria stood up to look, then someone yelled "get down", She did not see anyone shooting a gun, but did see smoke outside. She also heard a loud explosion outside. She got down under the table for a minute, then ran towards the steps with everyone else. she oontinued to hear shots behind her from the same direction they were before. She did not see anything. She ran upstairs with friends and continued. running straight. east, until she reaohed the south exit dooz-a on Pierce street. She ran out, orossed. Pierce street into Leawood Park.
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FBI CASE NUMBER 4--DN·5741' CDICASE NUMBE;R .991-0185 JEFFERSON COUNTY SO NUMBER ')').7615 REPORTING AGENT: LINDA R. HOLLOWAY oM KlPLIl'fG
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Docket lIUmber, 'BI i174A-DN-57419 Investigator: Vondenkamp
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David stated he was in the CHS cafeteria for "A" lunch on 4/20/99, which began at 11:20am. He stated he had been in the cafeteria since around 10, 20am, as he has 4th hour free. He recalled that during 4th hour lO:20am until 11,20am he sat at a table with several friends who also have 4th hour free. I provided David a drawing of the CBS cafeteria with the tables depicted in the drawing. I pointed out certain areas to give David a better understanding of the drawing's lay-out. He recalled that he and several CBS friends were sitting at table 1.1. near the steps du:dng 4th hour. Those friends included, Dan and Kim Mohrbacher, Tyson Knapke, Lisa Btepelton, Album Hummel and Amy Staley. David recalled that during 4th hour, he sat facing the steps, his back towards the kitchen. He was working on math homework and talking with friends. He stated that during 4th hour many students with free time come to the cafeteria to "hang- out". He estimated over 100 kids are in there during this time. I asked David about seeing a large dark duffle bag in the cafeteria during this time, or anybody carrying a large duffle bag. He did not recall seeing anything unusual. I asked David if he recalled seeing any suspicious people in or around the cafeteria during this time frame. He did not.
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At the 11:15al11 bell, he moved to a table near the student entrance, where he usually eats lunch with a group of other students. Most of the students he has 4th hour with, don't eat "A" lunch, so they leave the cafeteria. . He looked on the drawing and stated that their are 2-3 tables near the doors not indicated on the drawing. David marked where he was sitting with his "A" lunch CBS friends. They included Elaine Miller, Carder Kingsbury, Travis Jones, Issaih Salazer, BJ Secord and Kate Rebrovoic. He stated that around 11:30am he noticed everyone in the cafeteria standing up. He believed there wa.. a fight. Then everyone got on the ground, as he heard someone yell "2 people got shot". David got under his table with several friends, then everyone began to run towards the steps. He immediately ran out the student entrance doors and turned towards Pierce street, through the Junior parking lot. He then ran onto Polk ave where he, Travis Jones, Issaih Salazer and Kate Rebrovoic were picked up by CHS student Kara (unknown last name) in a beige full size pick up. Kara dropped them off at Travis's house on 'II Calbone Dr where David contacted his mother. David did not See any gunman inside or outside the building. He believed his group was one of the first ones out of the building. David had no further information on the shootings, or any information of the TCM. David left behind a blk jansport backpack with school hooks in it. He was wearing a green long sleeve shirt, with tan shorts and blue cap. David recalled the Rebel News Network thought of the dsy. He said that the words "you don't want to be here" were scripted on the monitor. David believed it was the seniors, and thought little of it.
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Ben SChWMnn 6916 S. Saulsbury Littleton, CO., 80127 303/973-7002
CHS student, cafeteria witness. on May 6, 1999, this investigator met with sen schumann at his residence. Presant during the interview were his parents, Rudy and Laurie Schumann. Ben stated that he spent his fourth hour in the cafeteria, as that is his "off hour.' He said he arrived there at approximately 10:20 a.m. and commented that there were not very many students there at that time, perhaps one hundred to one hundred and twenty. He advised that his fifth hour is lunch so he generally stays there following his fourth hour. He advised that he was at a table with the following persons, Matt Bruce, Matt Hill, Amber Rosetta, Brandy (LNU), Andrea Ellsner, Jessica ArZola, and Candice (LNUi. He was shown a sketCh of the cafeteria and marked table "F" as where he had been seated. He stated that at approximately 11,15 a.m., he went over to the Rebel Corner Store and purchased a snack and was walking back to his 1
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table when he saw a nu.mller of students run into the cafeteria through the courtyard doors. He said he heard someone yell, 'somebody's been shot.' Ben stated that he decided to leave the cafeteria and a$ he was running tcwa:rd the stairs, he saw a school janitor who was telling all the students to get down. He said the janitor went over to the windows on the west side of the cafeteria and then yelled out for the students to go upstairs. Ben advised that students began to move toward the stairs and it was like a giant wave of students moVing in that direction. He recalled that his friend Andrea Iilllsner fell down on the stairs and helped her up. As another student fell, he helped that person also. He said he could hear glass shattering back down in the cafeteria. He advised that when he reached the second landing on the stairs, he could hear bullets hitting the wall behind him and saio. that a piece of shattered tile hit him on the back of the head. He said he was aware of the location of an emergency exit in the math hall but was headed at first toward the science hall. He stated thathe heard a gunshot and ran back down the hall and saw MR. SANDERS on the floor. He said Mr. Sanders was down on his hands and knees and was bleeding from his mouth. Ben saw Ilr. Sanaers motion with his arm, indicating that he wanted Ben to get away. Ben said he ran toward the math hall and could hear someone yelling, "they're coming, they're corning.' He advised that when he approached the edge of the math hall, he heard 'a couple of shots." Ben ran out of the school using the emergency exit in the math hall and continued to run to Leawood Park. (SEE ATTACHED COPY OF FLOOR PLAN) Ben stated that he does not ~~ow Eric Harris, nor does he know Dylan Klel:lold. He stated that he does know as they were in the same freshman drawing class. He said he never really spent any time talking to him. He advised that he did know a student who was "really into the t renchccac stuff.' He said her name was Kelly Schwabb. He advised that he did not see the Rebel News Network
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OBSERVATION / INVESTIGATION: On May 6, 1999 I was assigned an inter"'Tiew with Columbine High School student, Colleen Schwartzott, who was possibly in the cafeteria at the time of the shooting. I contacted the witness's mother, Janice, and made an appointment for the inter"'Tiew on May 11th at 0800. On May 11th at 0750 I went to 7271 South Upham Street, and contacted Colleen Schwartzott. Colleen advised that she was in the ninth grade at Columbine High School and had been in the cafeteria at the time of the shootings. Colleen reported that she arrived in the cafeteria at about 11:00 to 11:05AM, and was sitting at a table in the hall way in front of the student store. She stated that there were three tables in the hall, and she was sitting at the one closest to the exit door. Colleen advised that she was sitting with the following people: Travis Jones Mike Foster Braden Pollard Elaine Miller Jeff Knoll Colleen related that he first indication of trouble was people outside the cafeteria began running toward the west. They then turned around and ran back toward the east. At this same time a janitor and Mr. Sanders came through the cafeteria telling everyone to get under the tables. Colleen said that they got under the table and waited there for about thirty (30) seconds before r~ing out the south-east cafeteria exit. She continued to say that they ran across the south parking lot to South Pierce Street and
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SCHWEITZaERGER, Sara Kay DOll: 06/01/83 6270 Summit Drive Littleton, CO. 80123 (303) 795-5913
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OBSERVATION I INVESTIGATION: On May 6, 1999 I was assigned an interview with Columbine High school student, Sara SChweitzberger, who was possibly in the oafeteria at the time of the shooting, I spoke to Steve Schweitzberger, Sara's father, by phone and made an appointment for the interview at 0900 on May 11th. On May 11th at 0845 hours'I arrived at 6270 Summit Drive and contacted Sara Schweitzberger. Sara confirmed that she was at Columbine High School on April 20th. Sara advised that she is in the ninth grade and was in the cafeteria at the time of the shoot,ng,
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On Apri12S. 1999, detectives went to SelLEp!'!'s residence (above), and spoke to him in the presence of his patents.•vuchaei and Rose SCllEPPl. Michael SCllEpp!'s cellphone number is 1303) 419·8986. SCILEP!'I was insideColumbine High School, working in the school store in the cafeteriaprior to the shooting. He did not see the shooters. but heard shots and explosions. He ran back to me office. behindthe store area. During that time he said he heard aboutten shots in a row. rapid fJe. Thenhe went through the office to a business classroom, wherehe hid behind a desk. He heard 50 or 60 more ,hOlS. aod explosions. He used a telephone in the classroom to call his father. SClLEPPltold detectives that he had been spoken to by someone at LeawoodElementary School after the shooting,"for abeet rwo minutes". . He saidhe did not have anything to do "ith eitherHARRlS or KLEBOLD; however. he related that Brian SARGENT doesn't like him. He said thatlast yell!he was riding in a car with Bobby StROBEL (driver) and Chris COW1.ES. when SARGENT and Chris ",IORRlS(and perhaps others) were blockini the street. SelLEPPl hollered at them out the window of the car. "get OUt of the way. fag". and STROBEL started forward forcing them to get out of the way. He recalledthatMORRIS came after the car for a short distance, swinging some kind ofchain which he had underhis trench coat.
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Neither STROBEL or COWLES have been interviewed at the time of this report, and at this time it does not appearto be necessary to interviewthem.
SClLEPPIsaid some of his friends bowledwith HARRIS and KLEBOLD, buthe was not involved in that. SCILEPPI related in unusual event which occurred on Monday, April 19, 1999. He and a friend, Ctaig WARDE, came to SCIlEPprs residence in Louis' car aboU! 1030 to 1045 hrs. They went Into the house, then SCILE?PI wentoutsideto get the mail. At that time he observed two males on the walk-way adjacent to SCILEPPl's driveway. walking toward the streetfrom the greenbelt area which runs behind the houses in thaI blOCK. The malesweredressed in black'shirts and black pants. They were not wearing trenchcoats. SCILE?P! recognized one of me males as Eric HARRIS; who was personally known to him. He spoke to HARR:S, but did not pay p3t!icular snenticn to the second male; however he believes it was DylanKLEBOLD. SCILEPPI explained that there wasa gamebeing playedamong seniors at Columbine, called "Annihilation", in whichthe participants would shootat one another with water pistols. The object beingthat if a player was "hit". he or she would then be out of the game.
SeILE??1 asked H.'I.RRlS, "What are you doing back mere? Killing someone?" to which HARRIS replied, "Yeah. so don't go back there for a coupledays". The following' day, April20, 1999,a bomb was discovered in the greenbelt behind tae residence adjacent to SeILEP!'!'s, anddetonated after being movedby some public service workers. A fire department investigator, Bill lVlARON conductedthe investigation.
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Backgro\llld: Developed dwing interview of Louis SeILE??1 (ControlN=ber 1668)
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CraigWARDE DOB: OS/22180 72&2 S. Yarrow Way Littleton. CO 80128 (303} 948-9205 (303)971·0399 (Parents')
During the interview of Louis SillEPP!. detectives weregiven information llw: a mend of SCILEPP!'s, Craig WARDE, had information whichmight be reievant to lIle investigation. WARDE was interviewed and told detectives thsr he has an acquai.ntance known only as "STEVE". who works at John Elway Dodge in Littleton; where WARnE was formerly .employed. He recently (since the shooting) spoke with STEVE. who toldWARDE that his (STEVE's) sister (name unknown 10 WARDE, andanother girl were at school on Tuesday, April 20. 1999. Just prior to lbe shooting. both girls left lbe school with Robyn ""'iDERSON, to go to lunch.
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BaskgrQlwd: Developed from interview of Craig WARDE, ControlNumber 2053. WARDE statedthat a friend (and former coworker) named STEVE (LNU) hasa sisterwho was taken to lunchby Robyn .>\.'lDERSON the day of the sbooting • just before it iltatWi Another friend went withthem.
1&al.Il: Identifyand interview STEVE (LNU) • Lot Technician at JohnElway Dodge· Littleton. CO. STEVE is described as having red hair.
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Steven1. SCHVSTER, Jr. 0013: 09114179 CO DL 95·314-0579 4700 W. Hamilton 1'1. Denver. CO 80236 (303) 935-1308
Contacted and interviewed SCHVSTER at John Elway AUto Nadon, Lillleton. where he is employed as a Lot Technician. SClWSTERIOld detectives that!lissister, Monica SClWSTER and her friend T....."lMY (L}ll.i) wereat ColumbineHigh School on Tuesday, April 20. 1999. He said theywere taken from school by Robyn.-'\..c'IDERSON. to go to lunch. SCHl.'STER said his sister hadalready beeninterviewed by theFBI. Steven SClWSTER did nothavefurther information. except thathe seemed to think that it was suspicious. Herequested that ubis sisterwas to be interviewed, that it be arranged through their father. StevenJ. SClWSTER, Sr. Phone number is the sameas above. Detective Kreutzer spoke with Steven SClWSTER, Sr. on April 29, 1999,andtoldMr. SCHl.'STER that we would check to see if Monicaneeded to be reinterviewed,
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was assigned to a grou~ ;or a play a~d he never a~tenQe~ tte cla55. The members of t~e group told Chris Morris if he doesn't atcend ana help Qut they wA~ted hi~ oue 0: t~e group. C~=is Stinson is very a~a=e Chris Mor~i$
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Coat Mafia.
Chris Stinson was h~~e SiCK on 04.20-99, he did not ae.end school at all. He was heme sick with a temp. of l04 degrees whic~ his mother ex~ plained. JC.o01· 004359 C:ffice:r
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303-973-7021 On 5-11-99.Inv Reker did ince~iew Scott at her residence with her parents present. Scott states that she was sitting at table T and had gone to the west windoe of the s~irig line when an unknown male came running in yelling about a person with a gun. Scott then heard shots and ran into the kitchen area and sat down and while peering over the counter she observed a person with a black ski mask come in to the cafeteria area using the west cafeteria door. and that she could only see him from the shoulder area up. This person did not say anything and after Scott felt that he had gone back out the door,she ran out of the kitchen to the auditcrium, and to the main hallway and exited the north side of the school and ran to Clement Park. Scott also States that a special education student whom works in the lil:lrary whose name is Nathan Fansler has stated in the past that he has "boml:ls in his heart.' but this day he stated that there were bombs in the trash. Scott was unable to provide any further information and the interview was terminated.
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OBSERVATION / INVESTIGATION: On June I, 1999 I was assigned an interview with Columbine High Sohool student B.J. Secord. On June 2, 1999 I spoke with Seoord's mother, Mari, and made an appointment to interview ll.J. on June 3rd at 1500. On June 3, 1999 at 1500 I arrived at 6966 South Kendall Blvd. and contacted B.J. Secord. B.J. advised that his correct name was William James Secord III. He advised that he attended Columbine High School and with in the ninth grade. B.J. also advised that he had been in school on April 20. 1999, and that he had been in the cafeteria. B.J. said that he arrived in the cafeteria at about 11:10AM. He continued to say that he was seated at a table in ehe hall way across from the student store. He reported that he was seated with the following people: Brook Allison Is iah Salazar Megan Mulvany
Dave Schulte Jason Hensley B.J. said that he first realized there was a problem when someone yelled #fight" and some of his friends started to run toward the windows on the southwest side of the cafeteria. B.J. said that he also started to walk toward the windows when someone yelled gun Or something like that and e'~ryone got under the tables. S.J. reported that while he was under the table he heard two sharpe shots. B.J. advised that there was one shot, a pause, and then the second shot. B.J. said that he did not see who waS
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shooting nor could ha tell exactly where the shets came frem because of the screaming and shouting going on in tne cafeteria. B.J. said that whila he was hidding under the table, he looked up, and out one of the windows and observed Nick Foss'cutside of the cafeteria en the patio. B.J. said that Pen appeared tc be holding his head or was running. B. J. said that he oauld not be sure what Foes was doing as he ducked back Mder the table and did not observe Foss very long. He described Fess as wearing a White bandana and a white shirt. B.J. advised that he had observed Foss wearing this same combination earlier in the day. S.J. continued to say that after a short period of time he and his friendS ran out of tne southeast exit from the cafeteria and across the parking lot to South Piarce Street. From there they ran south on Pierce Street to West POlk Avenue and then west on Polk Avenue eo about; the third or fourtn house Itest at. Pierce Street. B. J. said that there was a man in the front yard. They told him whae was happening and took cover in ehe b.ouse. He advised that the lIIll.n did call 911 and ~eport the shootings. 9.J. advised that he does not know who ehis person is. B.J. advised that prior to going to lunch he had been in spanish class, which is located on the lower level to the east of the cafeteria. B.J. stated that he walked down the hall way between the lower level of the auditorium and ehe lower level class rooms eo the cafeeeria. He related that he did not pass or encounter anyone from the Trench Coat Mafia while he was in the hall way. B.J. said that he did not notice a large duffel type bag in the cafeteria, nor did he notice anyone oarry such a bag ineo the cafeteria While he was there. B.J. also said that he did not see ~~yone carrying such a bag while he was walking to the oafeteria. B.J. said that he had been at the table only a short time before the shooting started. He advised that he had purchased something to drink at the student store, sat down, and had just searted to drink when someone said there was a fight. B.J. advised that he had lefe this pack at the table. Re described the pack as a black East Sport. He advised that he had retrieved the paok on June 2nd. B.J. advised that he shared a gym class with Dylan Klebold during the first semester (fall 1998) of the scheol year. He advised that he did not have any contact with Klebold as Klebold was in a spores class, and he had a weight class. B.J. continued to say ehat he did not talk to Klebeld since underclassmen did not generally talk to upperclassmen unless they knew each other. B.J. said thae he did not know Eric Harris and was not familiar with Harris's web site nor did he know what names Harris or Klebold used on the internee. B.J. continued to say "hat neither he or any of his friends are associated with the Trench Coat Mafia. He also advised that he had noe heard of the group until he goe to high school. B.J. advised that then had been no rumors about impending trouble at school on April 10th before that day, and he had heard no rumors about anyone building bombs or buying guns. S.J. related that he ususally rides to sohool with a neighbor. On 20th they arrived at school at about 7:00AM and parked in the junior lot. He advised thae when he arrived at the school he noticed nothing out of the ordinary oocurring in the lot.
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DEFENDAN1': HARRISIKLEBOLD
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DATE MAY 13, 1999 OEPUTYDA.
CASE NUMBER: 99A062 INVESTIGATOR: DOYLE, PI
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On May 13, 1999 I spolre willi Philip Brian Secrist, a Junior. DOB 2-5-82 5710 S. Benton Circle Littleton, CO 303797·9197
Momis Lila Dad is BrianWork. 303·989-9010 Philip' 5 parents were present during the interview Philip told methe following: H. Weltt to all hisclasses on the morning of April 20th. H. wasnot in the cafeteria prior to lunchtime He was sltlini at tableBB Initially, he couldn't remember whoelse was sittin!! at the tablewithhim He laterremembered that oneof thepeople was Seth Dubois Another wasa student name lerm Baer, 5453 W Canyon Trail. Littleton 303 973·7622.
Philip saidthat he turned around to look OUI thewindow for some reason He saw a girl withblood on her anda guy trying to somehow help herright outside the window He did not know whothesepeople were Then, he looked to the right of these people and saw Dylan with a double barrel shotgun. When asked how he knew ItwasDylan, hesaidthat he didn't know that it
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Philip said that he had heard of the reM, but never saw them. He said he had only been at Columbine High School sinoe J8ll1l8lY of thisyear.
He neversawthe dllffel haga. He wouldn't know any reM peopleifhe saw them. He left bisbackpack in the cafeteria. It was a black andyellow Eastpac:k. Inside it was bis calculator, all bis books, notebooks andsupplies He saidthet he has no knowledge of anybody else being involved He does not usethe internet and he thought thet the Rebel News Network _ments thet morning wereregular A diagram of the cafeteria ill attached to thisreport. No further information at thistime
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were there. Jill stated both Mr, Andres and his son la teacher aleo} told them not to go into the upstairs hall as the shooters were in ehere, The teachers had the students sit bet....en chairs and then ehey began locking doors. After tbis the teachers retrieved hats. Jill stated they hear
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On 05-11·99, I responded willi. )CSO victimadvocate to 7761 S. YalTOW Street, to interview ChadSharpley and hi' father Harry Sharpley aboutthe shooting lbatoccurred at Columbine HighScnool on04-20·99
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ADDITIONAL INfORMATION; Chad Sharpley said during 'his incident, he did no' seeany of the suspectsor anyone .lse with firearms and/or explosivedevices. I shewed Chad Sharpley pbores of the duffle bag and the propane tank that was later
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Chad Sharpley said he did nor know suspect Kleholdor suspect Harrisand said !t. did not knew anyll11ng about the Trench COal Mafia.
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On 5/12/99 I interviewed 15 year old CBS student Megan Schoenbi,;"n at her home in Littleton, Co. Megan's mother was present during this interview. Megan stated she was in the CHS cafeteria around 11:20am on 4/20/99. She eats "A" lunch. She had come from Me Layman's math class prior to entering the cafeteria. I showed Megan a drawing of the cafeteria and the tables depicted in it. I pointed out a few items in the drawings to help explain the lay-out of the drawing. I asked Megan to point to the table she sat at. She pointed to table "Z", and stated she sat with Carmie Diehl and Stephanie Wise. Megan did not see any unusually large duffle bags in the cafeteria, or see anybody carrying a large duffle bag on 4/20(99, or the previous day. Around 11: 25am she heard gunshots outsid.e the west windows. She described these as sound-ing like firecrackers. Everyone in the cafeteria stood up to look, then someone yelled "get down", She did not see anyone shooting a gun, but did see smoke outside. She also heard a loud explosion outside. She got down under the table for a minute, then ran towards the steps with everyone else. she oontinued to hear shots behind her from the same direction they were before. She did not see anything. She ran upstairs with friends and continued. running straight. east, until she reaohed the south exit dooz-a on Pierce street. She ran out, orossed. Pierce street into Leawood Park.
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CONTROL NUMBER 1405
FBI CASE NUMBER 4--DN·5741' CDICASE NUMBE;R .991-0185 JEFFERSON COUNTY SO NUMBER ')').7615 REPORTING AGENT: LINDA R. HOLLOWAY oM KlPLIl'fG
DENVER. COLORADO 80115 (303) 23').4111
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KATIEJO SCHOTT DOB60384 7604 SOUTHMARSHAL COURT LITTLETON, COLORADO 80118 (303) ')19.51')7 AmON TAKEN: Oa July:19, 1999Aceat Liada Holloway left a plaoa. III. . . . oa the _emllllacilme of til. SCHOTT Nldeaee, Oa lot.sam. day, I !I(IOU witll JIIIaIl SCHOTT,lUIt1e's motller. He lllformed lIIe IlIlIt lUItie .... oat of tOWD 011 'l'lIClItioB ud wouldOily be 1I0llle for a few 1l000n OD S.aday, Aupst 1st, before leaviq apia for aa meaded period ofti_ I nqllested tIIatKatie eaIlme Slllsday wlleuoe arrived 1l0llle. Oa August J.. 1m lUIti. SCHOTT ailed _ ud related tile followilll: Sa..... III the cafeteria at the tim. or tIIellaootiel lIepa. She ncalled belIIg at a table by tile wllld_ am to !i.e parldDl lot (Table K or L). She htard TeaeherSanden yeB at tile ehild,.. to Jet dOWD. She IUd lIader a table lbr a .bort period of tlllle. She did Ilot. . Ibe ••ooten or .aythlDIIII.t 1I'as oppegmg outsidetileeafeteria. She Ibn raa up tile stein wltll otller kids ud _ .lIIokeud htard bollllM. She tllell rail back dOWll tile stain aDd dOWlllhe FO~ig. Lalll••plld to tbe Jut door tbat leads to a classroolll. Th_ .b. lIid lbr 15 to 10 lIIinlltes IIntil • teaeber who WIS ltaadlng_teb told the kids to I'lIn ont of th. baildinc. She I'IlIl to tile lelllmary. Katie does lIot ir.IIow tile shooten ud did aot haveaa)" otller sigllillcallt information.
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SCHULTE, D
JC-001.004324
JlQ'l"ll'RSON COtlN'l'Y DISTRICT ATTORNllY I S Ol"l"IC3
sqPfLlIMIN'l'M REPORT
Docket lIUmber, 'BI i174A-DN-57419 Investigator: Vondenkamp
COLtlMl3INlli HIGH SCHOOL
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5/7 /99
CONTltOL#, 3010
On 5/7/99 I
interviewed 15 year old CHS student David Schulte at his home in Littleton, Co. DaVid's mother was present for this interview.
David stated he was in the CHS cafeteria for "A" lunch on 4/20/99, which began at 11:20am. He stated he had been in the cafeteria since around 10, 20am, as he has 4th hour free. He recalled that during 4th hour lO:20am until 11,20am he sat at a table with several friends who also have 4th hour free. I provided David a drawing of the CBS cafeteria with the tables depicted in the drawing. I pointed out certain areas to give David a better understanding of the drawing's lay-out. He recalled that he and several CBS friends were sitting at table 1.1. near the steps du:dng 4th hour. Those friends included, Dan and Kim Mohrbacher, Tyson Knapke, Lisa Btepelton, Album Hummel and Amy Staley. David recalled that during 4th hour, he sat facing the steps, his back towards the kitchen. He was working on math homework and talking with friends. He stated that during 4th hour many students with free time come to the cafeteria to "hang- out". He estimated over 100 kids are in there during this time. I asked David about seeing a large dark duffle bag in the cafeteria during this time, or anybody carrying a large duffle bag. He did not recall seeing anything unusual. I asked David if he recalled seeing any suspicious people in or around the cafeteria during this time frame. He did not.
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At the 11:15al11 bell, he moved to a table near the student entrance, where he usually eats lunch with a group of other students. Most of the students he has 4th hour with, don't eat "A" lunch, so they leave the cafeteria. . He looked on the drawing and stated that their are 2-3 tables near the doors not indicated on the drawing. David marked where he was sitting with his "A" lunch CBS friends. They included Elaine Miller, Carder Kingsbury, Travis Jones, Issaih Salazer, BJ Secord and Kate Rebrovoic. He stated that around 11:30am he noticed everyone in the cafeteria standing up. He believed there wa.. a fight. Then everyone got on the ground, as he heard someone yell "2 people got shot". David got under his table with several friends, then everyone began to run towards the steps. He immediately ran out the student entrance doors and turned towards Pierce street, through the Junior parking lot. He then ran onto Polk ave where he, Travis Jones, Issaih Salazer and Kate Rebrovoic were picked up by CHS student Kara (unknown last name) in a beige full size pick up. Kara dropped them off at Travis's house on 'II Calbone Dr where David contacted his mother. David did not See any gunman inside or outside the building. He believed his group was one of the first ones out of the building. David had no further information on the shootings, or any information of the TCM. David left behind a blk jansport backpack with school hooks in it. He was wearing a green long sleeve shirt, with tan shorts and blue cap. David recalled the Rebel News Network thought of the dsy. He said that the words "you don't want to be here" were scripted on the monitor. David believed it was the seniors, and thought little of it.
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May 8, 1999
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99-7625 174A-DN 51419 CN 3021
Deputy D.A.,
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Ben SChWMnn 6916 S. Saulsbury Littleton, CO., 80127 303/973-7002
CHS student, cafeteria witness. on May 6, 1999, this investigator met with sen schumann at his residence. Presant during the interview were his parents, Rudy and Laurie Schumann. Ben stated that he spent his fourth hour in the cafeteria, as that is his "off hour.' He said he arrived there at approximately 10:20 a.m. and commented that there were not very many students there at that time, perhaps one hundred to one hundred and twenty. He advised that his fifth hour is lunch so he generally stays there following his fourth hour. He advised that he was at a table with the following persons, Matt Bruce, Matt Hill, Amber Rosetta, Brandy (LNU), Andrea Ellsner, Jessica ArZola, and Candice (LNUi. He was shown a sketCh of the cafeteria and marked table "F" as where he had been seated. He stated that at approximately 11,15 a.m., he went over to the Rebel Corner Store and purchased a snack and was walking back to his 1
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table when he saw a nu.mller of students run into the cafeteria through the courtyard doors. He said he heard someone yell, 'somebody's been shot.' Ben stated that he decided to leave the cafeteria and a$ he was running tcwa:rd the stairs, he saw a school janitor who was telling all the students to get down. He said the janitor went over to the windows on the west side of the cafeteria and then yelled out for the students to go upstairs. Ben advised that students began to move toward the stairs and it was like a giant wave of students moVing in that direction. He recalled that his friend Andrea Iilllsner fell down on the stairs and helped her up. As another student fell, he helped that person also. He said he could hear glass shattering back down in the cafeteria. He advised that when he reached the second landing on the stairs, he could hear bullets hitting the wall behind him and saio. that a piece of shattered tile hit him on the back of the head. He said he was aware of the location of an emergency exit in the math hall but was headed at first toward the science hall. He stated thathe heard a gunshot and ran back down the hall and saw MR. SANDERS on the floor. He said Mr. Sanders was down on his hands and knees and was bleeding from his mouth. Ben saw Ilr. Sanaers motion with his arm, indicating that he wanted Ben to get away. Ben said he ran toward the math hall and could hear someone yelling, "they're coming, they're corning.' He advised that when he approached the edge of the math hall, he heard 'a couple of shots." Ben ran out of the school using the emergency exit in the math hall and continued to run to Leawood Park. (SEE ATTACHED COPY OF FLOOR PLAN) Ben stated that he does not ~~ow Eric Harris, nor does he know Dylan Klel:lold. He stated that he does know as they were in the same freshman drawing class. He said he never really spent any time talking to him. He advised that he did know a student who was "really into the t renchccac stuff.' He said her name was Kelly Schwabb. He advised that he did not see the Rebel News Network
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phrase of the day but heard about it later, something like, 'this is not going to be a good day.'
Investigation continues.
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** UPDATED APRIL 28, 1999 ** TEAM FOD"R INTERVIEW GUIDELINE ~DNlMAL QUESTIONS TO BE ASKED I.
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JBFmSOJI COll:llTY I)ISTlUC'l' A'l"l'OIIJIEY'S OFFICE
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May S, 1999
C••• Number'
99-7625 174A-DN57419 CN2682
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Nicholas Schumann 6916 S. Saulsbury St. Littleton. CO .• S0127 303/973-7002
CHi student. cafeteria witness On May 6. 1999. this investigator met with Nicholas Schumann at his residence. Present during the interview were his parents. RuQy and Laurie schumann. Nicholas stated that he had returned from a marketing banquet and arrived in the cafeteria at approximately 11:00 a.m. He advised that he works in the store in the Rebel Corner and after about ten minutes. he went into the store I s office. He identified others/" working at t~ store as Louis seileppi;'" Liza Madden;' Tina Berraechi. Carrie Green and a teacher, Mrs. l"rOllJlller. He said that he and Tina went into the store office and were counting money when a student came in and told them U get down. someone has a gun.' Nicholas said he went out into the cafeteria to look for his brother Ben and happened to look out the window and saw a male subject outside ac the southwest corner of the cafeteria. He stated that this subject was wearing a white T-shirt and had a white bandana around his head covering short blonde hair. He noted that the person had on dark colored pants and was of stocky build. He said this person was 1
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looking through the windows along the courtyard side of the cafeteria when he sUddenly got down on the ground, on his stomach with his hands ~~der bis chest - like a push-up position. He advised that this person looked scared. Nicbolas stated that he heard SOme kind of explosion inside the cafeteria but he could not tell where the noise came from. He advised that he and several others hid in a room, referred to as the Business I room which is adjacent to the store office. He said that he had lost track of time while hiding but did hear what sounded like gunshots coming from the area of the cafeteria. He said that later, he heard more gunshots and voices,'whooping and hollering' as the shots were being fired. He said the shots sounded very rapid, like automatic gunfire, and sounded like two different weapons. He stated that there had been one very lOUd explosion which caused ceiling tiles to fall. He also recalled there being a large amount of water on the floor from the sprinklers. He said that he could hear more gunshots coming from upstairs as well as the sound of footsteps - running. He described some sounds as that of wbat he perceived as tallles being overturned. He advised that Mrs. Frommer was trying to get an outside line on a phone in the office but all the numbers were busy. He said she did finally get through to the Littleton Fire Department. Nicholas stated that at approximately 3 ;00 p.m., a SWAT team came in and took them to safety. He stated that he bad been wearing hrown pants, a cream colored dress shirt and a tie. He advised that he had removed his shirt prior to being rescued by the SWAT officers. He did hear about the phrase of the something like "it's going to be a bad day."
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This investigator was advised by Mr. Schumann that Nicholas had been previously interviewed by Det. Don Becchi (SF?) of the Denver police Department and that this interview had been videotaped. Attached to this report is a sketch Of the upper and lowe); levels of the scnocf . Nicholas has indicated where he observed the individual outside of the cafeteria and also traced his exit out of the cafeteria. Investigation continues.
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OBSERVATION / INVESTIGATION: On May 6, 1999 I was assigned an inter"'Tiew with Columbine High School student, Colleen Schwartzott, who was possibly in the cafeteria at the time of the shooting. I contacted the witness's mother, Janice, and made an appointment for the inter"'Tiew on May 11th at 0800. On May 11th at 0750 I went to 7271 South Upham Street, and contacted Colleen Schwartzott. Colleen advised that she was in the ninth grade at Columbine High School and had been in the cafeteria at the time of the shootings. Colleen reported that she arrived in the cafeteria at about 11:00 to 11:05AM, and was sitting at a table in the hall way in front of the student store. She stated that there were three tables in the hall, and she was sitting at the one closest to the exit door. Colleen advised that she was sitting with the following people: Travis Jones Mike Foster Braden Pollard Elaine Miller Jeff Knoll Colleen related that he first indication of trouble was people outside the cafeteria began running toward the west. They then turned around and ran back toward the east. At this same time a janitor and Mr. Sanders came through the cafeteria telling everyone to get under the tables. Colleen said that they got under the table and waited there for about thirty (30) seconds before r~ing out the south-east cafeteria exit. She continued to say that they ran across the south parking lot to South Pierce Street and
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SCHWEITZaERGER, Sara Kay DOll: 06/01/83 6270 Summit Drive Littleton, CO. 80123 (303) 795-5913
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OBSERVATION I INVESTIGATION: On May 6, 1999 I was assigned an interview with Columbine High school student, Sara SChweitzberger, who was possibly in the oafeteria at the time of the shooting, I spoke to Steve Schweitzberger, Sara's father, by phone and made an appointment for the interview at 0900 on May 11th. On May 11th at 0845 hours'I arrived at 6270 Summit Drive and contacted Sara Schweitzberger. Sara confirmed that she was at Columbine High School on April 20th. Sara advised that she is in the ninth grade and was in the cafeteria at the time of the shoot,ng,
Sara reported that she arrived in the cafeteria at about ~l:OOAM, Sara said that she had left her ba~k pack at table identified as "GG', However, she had taken a lunch to a friend who was sitting at table identified as
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Sara said that she was with the following people at table 'FFF': Kaley Bane Candica Cushman Nick Antonio The first indication Sara had that there was a problem was when her friend, Chris Marcum, tame ru~~ing into the cafeteria through the west door near the faculty lounge saying something to the affect they've got a gun and someone was shot. Sara thought it might be a prank until the janitors came running by telling everyone to get down. She then heard shots coming from what appeared to be the outside of the cafeteria toward the west. Sara said the sound of the shots kind of echoed. Sara said that she did not she who was doing the shooting.
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On Apri12S. 1999, detectives went to SelLEp!'!'s residence (above), and spoke to him in the presence of his patents.•vuchaei and Rose SCllEPPl. Michael SCllEpp!'s cellphone number is 1303) 419·8986. SCILEP!'I was insideColumbine High School, working in the school store in the cafeteriaprior to the shooting. He did not see the shooters. but heard shots and explosions. He ran back to me office. behindthe store area. During that time he said he heard aboutten shots in a row. rapid fJe. Thenhe went through the office to a business classroom, wherehe hid behind a desk. He heard 50 or 60 more ,hOlS. aod explosions. He used a telephone in the classroom to call his father. SClLEPPltold detectives that he had been spoken to by someone at LeawoodElementary School after the shooting,"for abeet rwo minutes". . He saidhe did not have anything to do "ith eitherHARRlS or KLEBOLD; however. he related that Brian SARGENT doesn't like him. He said thatlast yell!he was riding in a car with Bobby StROBEL (driver) and Chris COW1.ES. when SARGENT and Chris ",IORRlS(and perhaps others) were blockini the street. SelLEPPl hollered at them out the window of the car. "get OUt of the way. fag". and STROBEL started forward forcing them to get out of the way. He recalledthatMORRIS came after the car for a short distance, swinging some kind ofchain which he had underhis trench coat.
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Neither STROBEL or COWLES have been interviewed at the time of this report, and at this time it does not appearto be necessary to interviewthem.
SClLEPPIsaid some of his friends bowledwith HARRIS and KLEBOLD, buthe was not involved in that. SCILEPPI related in unusual event which occurred on Monday, April 19, 1999. He and a friend, Ctaig WARDE, came to SCIlEPprs residence in Louis' car aboU! 1030 to 1045 hrs. They went Into the house, then SCILE?PI wentoutsideto get the mail. At that time he observed two males on the walk-way adjacent to SCILEPPl's driveway. walking toward the streetfrom the greenbelt area which runs behind the houses in thaI blOCK. The malesweredressed in black'shirts and black pants. They were not wearing trenchcoats. SCILE?P! recognized one of me males as Eric HARRIS; who was personally known to him. He spoke to HARR:S, but did not pay p3t!icular snenticn to the second male; however he believes it was DylanKLEBOLD. SCILEPPI explained that there wasa gamebeing playedamong seniors at Columbine, called "Annihilation", in whichthe participants would shootat one another with water pistols. The object beingthat if a player was "hit". he or she would then be out of the game.
SeILE??1 asked H.'I.RRlS, "What are you doing back mere? Killing someone?" to which HARRIS replied, "Yeah. so don't go back there for a coupledays". The following' day, April20, 1999,a bomb was discovered in the greenbelt behind tae residence adjacent to SeILEP!'!'s, anddetonated after being movedby some public service workers. A fire department investigator, Bill lVlARON conductedthe investigation.
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CraigWARDE DOB: OS/22180 72&2 S. Yarrow Way Littleton. CO 80128 (303} 948-9205 (303)971·0399 (Parents')
During the interview of Louis SillEPP!. detectives weregiven information llw: a mend of SCILEPP!'s, Craig WARDE, had information whichmight be reievant to lIle investigation. WARDE was interviewed and told detectives thsr he has an acquai.ntance known only as "STEVE". who works at John Elway Dodge in Littleton; where WARnE was formerly .employed. He recently (since the shooting) spoke with STEVE. who toldWARDE that his (STEVE's) sister (name unknown 10 WARDE, andanother girl were at school on Tuesday, April 20. 1999. Just prior to lbe shooting. both girls left lbe school with Robyn ""'iDERSON, to go to lunch.
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BaskgrQlwd: Developed from interview of Craig WARDE, ControlNumber 2053. WARDE statedthat a friend (and former coworker) named STEVE (LNU) hasa sisterwho was taken to lunchby Robyn .>\.'lDERSON the day of the sbooting • just before it iltatWi Another friend went withthem.
1&al.Il: Identifyand interview STEVE (LNU) • Lot Technician at JohnElway Dodge· Littleton. CO. STEVE is described as having red hair.
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Steven1. SCHVSTER, Jr. 0013: 09114179 CO DL 95·314-0579 4700 W. Hamilton 1'1. Denver. CO 80236 (303) 935-1308
Contacted and interviewed SCHVSTER at John Elway AUto Nadon, Lillleton. where he is employed as a Lot Technician. SClWSTERIOld detectives that!lissister, Monica SClWSTER and her friend T....."lMY (L}ll.i) wereat ColumbineHigh School on Tuesday, April 20. 1999. He said theywere taken from school by Robyn.-'\..c'IDERSON. to go to lunch. SCHl.'STER said his sister hadalready beeninterviewed by theFBI. Steven SClWSTER did nothavefurther information. except thathe seemed to think that it was suspicious. Herequested that ubis sisterwas to be interviewed, that it be arranged through their father. StevenJ. SClWSTER, Sr. Phone number is the sameas above. Detective Kreutzer spoke with Steven SClWSTER, Sr. on April 29, 1999,andtoldMr. SCHl.'STER that we would check to see if Monicaneeded to be reinterviewed,
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OBSERVATION / INVESTIGATION: On June I, 1999 I was assigned an interview with Columbine High Sohool student B.J. Secord. On June 2, 1999 I spoke with Seoord's mother, Mari, and made an appointment to interview ll.J. on June 3rd at 1500. On June 3, 1999 at 1500 I arrived at 6966 South Kendall Blvd. and contacted B.J. Secord. B.J. advised that his correct name was William James Secord III. He advised that he attended Columbine High School and with in the ninth grade. B.J. also advised that he had been in school on April 20. 1999, and that he had been in the cafeteria. B.J. said that he arrived in the cafeteria at about 11:10AM. He continued to say that he was seated at a table in ehe hall way across from the student store. He reported that he was seated with the following people: Brook Allison Is iah Salazar Megan Mulvany
Dave Schulte Jason Hensley B.J. said that he first realized there was a problem when someone yelled #fight" and some of his friends started to run toward the windows on the southwest side of the cafeteria. B.J. said that he also started to walk toward the windows when someone yelled gun Or something like that and e'~ryone got under the tables. S.J. reported that while he was under the table he heard two sharpe shots. B.J. advised that there was one shot, a pause, and then the second shot. B.J. said that he did not see who waS
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DATE MAY 13, 1999 OEPUTYDA.
CASE NUMBER: 99A062 INVESTIGATOR: DOYLE, PI
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On May 13, 1999 I spolre willi Philip Brian Secrist, a Junior. DOB 2-5-82 5710 S. Benton Circle Littleton, CO 303797·9197
Momis Lila Dad is BrianWork. 303·989-9010 Philip' 5 parents were present during the interview Philip told methe following: H. Weltt to all hisclasses on the morning of April 20th. H. wasnot in the cafeteria prior to lunchtime He was sltlini at tableBB Initially, he couldn't remember whoelse was sittin!! at the tablewithhim He laterremembered that oneof thepeople was Seth Dubois Another wasa student name lerm Baer, 5453 W Canyon Trail. Littleton 303 973·7622.
Philip saidthat he turned around to look OUI thewindow for some reason He saw a girl withblood on her anda guy trying to somehow help herright outside the window He did not know whothesepeople were Then, he looked to the right of these people and saw Dylan with a double barrel shotgun. When asked how he knew ItwasDylan, hesaidthat he didn't know that it
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Philip said that he had heard of the reM, but never saw them. He said he had only been at Columbine High School sinoe J8ll1l8lY of thisyear.
He neversawthe dllffel haga. He wouldn't know any reM peopleifhe saw them. He left bisbackpack in the cafeteria. It was a black andyellow Eastpac:k. Inside it was bis calculator, all bis books, notebooks andsupplies He saidthet he has no knowledge of anybody else being involved He does not usethe internet and he thought thet the Rebel News Network _ments thet morning wereregular A diagram of the cafeteria ill attached to thisreport. No further information at thistime
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3. Did you see Eric Harlis or DylanKlebold either on Monday of Tuesday ? What wene they doing 1 NO· WhAt did they say? Were they willi anyone else ? 4, Didyou leave anyllli.ng behind in the cafeteria or anywhere else in the scl1ool?
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MINIMAL QUESTIONS TO BE ASKED II. Have them IIIIUK where they wexe sitting, their !Ollie 0111 of the building and. whom they wm with (if known) ?
12, How did you exit thebuilding? Wh= did you go whell you got out and what did yousecon theoutside of the building? ?;, oN olffT!""..IV .1&-/1""'';'''.1 e;t...'rT';"" '7'ff
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Jill Shakoweki, dob 4-22-63 9943 W. Arlington Ave. Littleton, CO 80123 Pb. 303-972'9644
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Jill was also a witness and wanted to talk to an investigator prior to atteMing a funeral this date. The following interview was conducted at this time. 6,40 A.M. Jill stated sbe was in the commons Area in the Cafeteria about 11:15 A.M. with Grant Taylor, Margaret Burns and Kelsey Baine. Jill stated she was at the pop machine by the restrooms and she saw five freshmen running in front of the kitchen and into the bathroom yelling: 'Shawns been shot.' Jill stated she didn't know if they were serious or not. haard a sbot outside by the stairs going into the building.
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upstairs because everyone was coming down the st,.ir.. Jill stated her group then went into the restroom and stood on toilets. After a while they left and looked around. Jill stated Coach Andres _s holding a door open to the auditorium. They went through it and into ana aeroee the stage and upstairs, She stated about 20 other go
were there. Jill stated both Mr, Andres and his son la teacher aleo} told them not to go into the upstairs hall as the shooters were in ehere, The teachers had the students sit bet....en chairs and then ehey began locking doors. After tbis the teachers retrieved hats. Jill stated they hear
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On 05-11·99, I responded willi. )CSO victimadvocate to 7761 S. YalTOW Street, to interview ChadSharpley and hi' father Harry Sharpley aboutthe shooting lbatoccurred at Columbine HighScnool on04-20·99
ChadSharpley ,old me the following. He saidon 04-20·99, at about 11: 10 tc II:! 5, he wentinto thecafeteria of Columbine Unit
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Sharpiey said he possibly heard two gunshots at that rime. andthen heard what. he described as "a smoke bomb" gooff outside of the cafeteria. He said when he lookedoutsIde. he could seer smoke in the air. Chad SharpJe;.t said someone told the students
in the cafeteria to get down on the floor and under the tablcs, He said he did this and stayed th.ere a short rime untilstudents; began to get up off the tlOQl' andrun across the cafeteriaand up the stairways to the secondfloor of ColumbineHigh School. Chad Sharpleysaid when he got
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Sharpleysaid he did not hear any noise.gunshots, explosions. etc. nearthe ubrary at the top of the stairs. Chad Sharpleysaid whilenmninghe turnedintoa smallhallwayand rantoward thedoorandsaidwhenhe wasaboutren feetfrom the door. he could beariU".$hots (unknown how many) hitting the door in Ih rel="nofollow">nt of himand ric",,!let off of thisdoor, Hesaid he had not beeninjured d\lllttgthe incident. Chad Sharpley said he continuednmningthrollgll the doors and exited the school.
ADDITIONAL INfORMATION; Chad Sharpley said during 'his incident, he did no' seeany of the suspectsor anyone .lse with firearms and/or explosivedevices. I shewed Chad Sharpley pbores of the duffle bag and the propane tank that was later
found in the cafeteria at Columbine High School. Hesaidbedidnotseethese itemS before or during the incident. Healso stated he does notknow of any students. nor has heheard rumors of any other students whomaybe manufacturing explosive devices
Healsotold me he does not know of any students possessing firearms.
Chad Sharpley said he did nor know suspect Kleholdor suspect Harrisand said !t. did not knew anyll11ng about the Trench COal Mafia.
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