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Renee K. Paavilainen, OOB OS/23/1983, 5445 West Caryl Place, Littleton, Colorado, telephone (303)932-0045, was interviewed at her home in the presence of her mother, Kathy Paavilainen, by Special Agent (SA) Ricky V, Wright regarding the incident that took place on 04(20/1999 at Columbine High School. After being advised as to the identity of the interviewing agent and the nature of the interview, Paavilainen provided the following information, At approximately 11,10 am, paavilainen got out of Spanish class, taught by Mr. Brookfield, and went directly from the foreign language department to the cafeteria. Paavilainen set her bookbag at the cafeteria table (marked E on~agram ~ sketch), and went~o get her lunch, Jasmine Schell, Sarah Sales, and Amber Dickson were still seated at the table marked E, when Paavilainen went to get lunch. Sarah Brown-was standi~ on Paavilainen's left in the serving line and David Mesch was standing on Paavilainen's right, While standing in line, Paavilainen saw the students in the cafeteria get down under their tables. Paavilainen remained standing even after everyone started yelli~g to get down.

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telling people to get down. Paavilainen could hear popping noises outside. Alter a couple of minutes, everyone started running and Paavilainen, Mesch, Brown, Dusty Hoffsch.~eider, and Ryan Deatherage ran in a rOom behind the serving line an the east end of the

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from the room and could see students running up the stairs, into the auditorium, and into the bathrooms. While people were fleeing} Paavilainen thought she saw. through a window in the room, one of the gunmen run east by the serving line. He was short, had brawn hair, and was wearing a black jacket. He was not wearing a mask or hat. From Paavilainen's ~~gle, she could not tell if the jacket was long. Paavilainen did not see anything in his hands and did not recognize him. Paavilainen thought he was firing while running. Paavilainen thinks that Sarah Brown also saw the gunman through the window. After about a minute in the room, Paavilainen and the other students in the rOOm ran in the back door of the

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auditorium. Paavilainen went through the auditorium and out the northeast door. When she came out the auditorium into the main hall, she could hear shots on the other side of a set of double doors, which divided the main hall just west of the auditorium exit. i?aavilainen ran east down the main hall and saw same gym

students coming from the direction of the gymnasium into the main hall. Paavilainen recognized one of the students as Mike Doyle. Paavilainen continued down the main hall and turned north down the hall by the counseling center. Paavilainen passed David Mesch's mom, who workS in the student offices. She was directing students by her to the exit at the end of the hall. Paavilainen did nat notice if the student offices were shot up when she ran by.

Once outside. Paavilainen ran around the tennis courts and

then to Clement Park. i?aavilainen was in ehe cafeteria ehird period for approximately 10 minutes to see her sister, Jenny Paavilainen.~ Jenny i?aavilainen was sitting ae table T on ehe diagram sketch and their brother, Mike Paavilainen was at table E. Jenny and Mike Paavilainen were not in the cafeteria during lunch. Paavilainen estimates that there were 50 students in the cafeteria

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large duffle bags sitting in the cafeteria during lunch or third period. Paavilainen did not know Eric Harris or Dylan Klebold. The only associate of Klebold and Harris that she knows is Brooks Brown. Brown has given no indication to Paavilainen that he knew anything about the shootings. Paavilainen does net have an Internet screen name. The day of the shooting, Paavilainen was wearing blue jeans and a white shirt.

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Ad youeversee the twe largeduffel bags in the cafeleria ?

2. Did yousee anycoe Cmylng or in thepossession of thoseduffel bags, at a previous time ?

3. Did yousee EricHamsor Dylan Klebold either on Monduy ofTuesday? What were theydoing ? What did tIley say ? Were they wid! anyone else ? 4.

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in tlIeJ::afeleria or anywhere else in the school?

5. Who were you with in the cafeleria? Where were you sitting? 6. Did yousee or talk to anyof the Trench CoatMalia members allMOllday? Tuesday? Howabout the prior week or wee1<elld ? Iv< you heardanything from anybody else aboutother suspeets, bomb maIciDg, pn buying, ell:. ?

8. What wereyouwearing? Didyouhavea back paok ? What did it look Ilke and I or have in it ?

9. How did you leave thecafeteria or the building? What were meevents tlllII made you leave ? 10. What time did you. enter the cafeteria ? Where did you comefrom (prior to the cafeleria) ? 11. Have themmark where they were silting, their route aut of the building and woo they were with (if known) ? 12. Can you provide any further information on the members of the Trench COal Malia?

13. Ask the parents if thekids havetoldthem anything else? Different?

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On 6/1/99 I contacted 16 year old ellS student Renee Paavilainen at her home phone number of 303-932-0045. I advised Renee I needed to clarify some of the information she gave during her original interview with FBI agent Ricky Wright on 5/14/99 regarding the Columbine shooting. Renee agreed to speak with me. I asked Renee about the person she saw ",.nning towards the inside cafeteria steps after most of the students had evacuated the area on 4/20. She estimated the time to be around 11:30am when she was hiding in the kitchen cafeteria behind the serving line with 4 other students. She was hearing "pop, pop, pop' noises, which she believed was gunfire coming from the west side of the cafeteria. She believed the noises were outside, but could not be sure. As she sat in the kitchen hiding, she witnesses a lone white student

running towards the inside stairs in the cafeteria about 5-7 feet away from her. The student was wearing a black jacket, unknown if it was open or zipped up, or if it had a hood, and the length of this jacket was unknown. The serving line countertop blocked a portion of her view. The student had ear length brown hair, no hat. She believed he was about 5' 6" tall. She did not see this student carrying any type of a weapon, as she did not see his hands. She originally told Agent Wright that she believed the student was firing a weapon while running. Renee believed this because the pop, pop, noise became louder as the student ran by them towards the sceps. She only saw this student for a second as he quiCkly ran by, and at

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Renee recalled that her friend, Sarah Brown who was hiding next to her said "d.i.d you see that". They believed based on the noise that the student was firing a weapon. Renee believes that Sarah has been interviewed by Investigators. Renee Paavilainen 5445 w. Cartl Place Littleton, Co. 303-932-0045.

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On 4/20/99, Daniel arrived at Columbine High School at approlCUlately allO a.m. He went ee his locker, and then to his first olass, which was computer creativity. His last olass prior to first lunch period was biology. Bioloqy let ou~ at approximately 11:10 a.m., and be then went directly to first period lunch. He bouqht his lunch and sat at table W. The fOllowing individuals were also seated at this table with Daniel. 1. 2. 3. >I •

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Daniel at quickly, and was sitting talking with his friends, when he saw several people along the window saau on the wes~ side of the cafeteria stand up and look out the windows. He looked out and saw and individual dressed in a blaCk trench coat, blaCk ski mask, approximately 6'0"-6'2" poin~ a sho~qun at stUdent near the ou~side stairs and subsequently shoot the student. This occurred not DlOre than 10-15 feet from where Daniel was sittinq. Ha then heard a teacher yel11nq "get down". He 90t down, and began craWling towards the elevator. He crawled the entire way to the elevators, and entered the elevator. The elevator ascended, and opened up near the library, but when the doors opened, there was smoke in the hallway, so none of the students 'lot off the elevator. The elevator went back down to the cafeteria, and he exited. From the time he beqan crawling, he was hearing gun shots. Hart he ran into the aUditorium, and both 1(>:. Andres Jr.and Sr. were there. He could hsar shots and explosions from the aree of the l1l:>>:ary. A janitor was also in the auditorium, and after about ten minutes, he opened the door, and the students all ran down the foreiqn language hallway, and exited the 5/6{99 Aal 174A-ON-57419/ 99-7&25/ eN 2831 by

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Narrative Re Controi number 1020 On 04-26-99 contact was made with Stephanie Panslni, (09-20-1983), at her residence at 6654 W Geddes Ave, Littleton, CO, #303-979-6021 Pansini advised being assigned to 1" lunch (1115-1145\, and an 04-17-1999 had arrived in the lunchroom at approximately 1120 and bought a hot lunoh She was seated at table 'DO' (near the condiment table), as indicated on the 04-22-1999 sketch by SIA DiRito. Present at her table were, 1. Laurel Salerno; 2. Erin Fitzgerald, 3 Meagan Steckley; 4, Shelley Jenkins; 5. Elizabeth Kwernlaland. She noted silting at generally the same table every day, with the same friends. She firsl became aware of problems at the school, when an adult male carrying a portable radio ran Into the lunchroom from the area of the south coors belling everyone to 'get down under the tables". She did not know what the problem was until she saw a person wearing a long black coat running outside the south windows, and she heard what she believed to be gun shots. Students began rJnning In waves from the lunchroom up the stairs towards the library aM she followed, eventually entering the auditorium and exiling the north door and running into the park and continued north away from the school. She did not confront Munmen as she exited the school.

Wto exiting the lunchroom she saw no suspicious activity near her table, and she saw neither Identified gunman In the lunchroom. He noticed no suspicious bags or other items near her table

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He was right outside of the cafeteria, sitting on the cement benches. He heard about 10 bangs, and didn't, at first, think much of it. He then heard someone screaming and went towards the parking lot, (See aiagram). He saw a tall person standing on the hill by the fance. CSae diagram). This person was wearing a black trench coat. Mate did not notice anything in this personls hands. He said the guy appeared to be wearing all black. The guy was just standing there. Matt did not recognize this pe:san. Matt said that he saw a girl named Ann Marie (unknown last name), who appeared to be shot. She was bleeding from her stomach. She was screaming that she was paralyzed and couldn't move. Matt ran in to the cafeteria. He walked by table E and people we~e asking wha~ was going on, He heard more shots. A janitor and Mr. Sanders were ~~ning around telling people to get down. He got down.

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Matt said that his back pack is a green Jansport with a brown bottom. Jansport is colored in red. In it was a book, a p Lanne rwith a pencil in the spirals.

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social studies stuff and a protractor and compass and a black pen. Matt said that Dylan lClabold was that Dylan was pretty nice to Matt.

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ACITON TAKEN: 00 M.y 7 .tlUO a, m. the Reporting Agent. Linda R. HOLLOWAY, interviewed A>'1N MARIE PATRICCA whileat me residence of CHRISTINA ROWER. I bad initially been assed to lrllerview Ms. ROW'ER. and learned mac: Ann Marie Wl1$ with Chrlstinain the cafeteriaat the scaool at the rime the incident began. Ann Muie bad noe been Interviewed. It was 1eo.1Ied mat RlCK WRlGHT had Imn assigned ControlNumber 2835,but b.d not con""'ted her yet Ms. PATRICeA stared r!lat it wouldbe difficult for anyone to locate her becauseof a pbonecumber cbeageor someotherrecent statuschange. Ann MartePATRlCCA stared that she drove herselt'to school OD thatday, parking in the ClementPlU'k parking lot. She went straight to her first: period class. After fourth pericd, she went back to bet cat and then to the cafeteria. She was wearing a white dress sbirt with a tie, khaki pants and saodals. She sat at

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Ms Pearcesaid that she had Fourth Hour Math class wah Me Higgms.andher class ended at 11 lOam and her FifthHour was free She said that after Mac, class the ",ent to her lookerand "'",,;>ed olfher hooks and met her mend. Sarah DeBoer in the hallway nearher [ocker Shesaid tba1: they went downstairs and sat underneath the case on the stone b
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janitors- running in different directions with walkie talkies. telling everyone to get doWl\ Ms Pearcesaid someof the kids were laughiDg 1 asked her wiry sbetoougmtheywere laughing and '$one said that they probably thOUght It was a Senior prank Ms Pearce said she saw smokeoutside of rhe doer of the cafeteria, about the area underneath the window where the kid fell out of the library She stated that there was a "herd" of peoplerunning up the tnain staircase from the commons Ms Pearce said that she and Sarah went beiund the stairs and rhestone bench

aDd then ran into tbe auditorium Ms Pearce stated that she and Sarah ran up to the tOP of the auditorium and they started out the door by the boysand girlslocker room Ms Pearcesaid that she thougftt she !lesitated fot just a secondor rwe, she said tlta' she lookedright, toward the emrance and matn ollie., and didn't see anything, th"" she lookedleft sed

saw the shooter withan arm raisedsbootinga handgun towardthe l.ibnuy Ms Pearcesaidthat the shooter was wearing all black She said that slle doan't rememhet' >eeing IU. lace or any other color on bim I asked her if he was wea.ring a trench cce and. she said thal she &dn' t remember+ she only remembered seeing ail black She said that hehad one or botb arms extended, sbcoting toward the library and she hea.rd sounds like, "pop, pop, pop" She said that she was partially blocked by a cement pillar or someother barrierbetween the two doorways in the ttallway Ms Pearce said tluu later Sarahtold her that when she got to thedoor by the-locker roomsthat she(Sarah) had looked to (eft first and Sarah had seen the shooter and thought he turned lowardS them and shot at them and thai Sarah ~_d a bullet whiz by her Ms Pearcesaid at this time, she and Sarah became seperated, and

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Ms Pearce said that she ran across the hallway into the wrestling room and saw rome girls headed to the

lockerroomand "lamed themof the shooter Shesaidthat Miss Mcauiy I'll?> one ofth. teacaers, told her and ten to fifteen othersto hide in the wrestling room beh1nd a wall or partition She said that Miss Mcauiy Ie!l for 20 or 30 seconds and dunng that tirue, Ule tight, _ out and lhe lire alaIm went off She ""ld t!lal the emergency lightscarne on and that 'Miss Mcauly cameback. and told tf:=n !-O wa.1k quickly Out of the exit She S3J.d they left the wre5tUog room and wcm Into the ~ght room VJd exiled the ncrta door by the weight room Ms Pearce said that a student named, Andy, who was an actor in the school play, "Smoke in the Room", was hetping; other students over the fence by me smoker's pits. Ms Pearcesaid thaI she Slopped by the basketball '0IlItS and tl>en someone SWled y.1ling and """'Yo.. """ed running iljlain She said that :she saw the third pcbce car arrive Ms Puree said that she was oct of the !;thoot within five to ten minutesfrom tM: begiMing of the ~ing She saidthat she Ie!llhe school and ran ..to Kevin Starkey' """" by Bowles and Pierce She said that some news guy let her use his cellphone SQ shecouldcall ber dad Ms Pearce said that she and \trs Starkeywent to the puhlie IibratY, Gran' Ranch. and ,hen to Leawood, lookinll tor Kevin Starkeyandhi' COUSins Ms Pearce said she met her dad. at Leawood and went home

r asked Ms Pearce if she knew Eric Harris or Dylan Klebold and she said that she knew Harris by face because he used to hang OUt by her tockerafterFOIl"''' hourand she wouldhaveto "'. him to rrcve away from her locker She saidshe thought he was wailing forone of his fiieluls Ms Pearce said ,he didnoe see Harris by 1",,1<e< on 1J4.20·99 after FourthHour She said that;he did no, sncw Klebold

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1 asked Ms Pearce: if she had ~ baek:~'mck at scboos and shesaidthat it was in her lo<;!<.er Ms Pearce was shown a diagram of Columbine High Schooland peenedout the routeshe took out of the school The interview was concluded

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OBSERVATION / INVESTIGATION: On April 27, 1999 I was assigned to interview Denae Pedersen who is a student at Columbine High School and may have been in the cafeteria during the shootings, On April 28th at 1045 hours I arrived at 6264 West Caley Avenue to interview Denae Federsen, venae advised that she is a junior and was in the area of the cafeteria on April 20th, Ms. Pedersen reported that she was in the exit hall way, in front of the student store, in the south-ease corner of the cafeteria area. She continued to say that she was starting to walk into the cafeteria to join her friends at a table when Mr. Sanders came running by and told her to get under the table which she did. Ms, Pedersen advised at first she thought it was a fight but realized it was more serious by the way everyone was acting. She advised that a friend of hers, Brad Pesicko, came running by and ran into another girl knocking them both to the floor, Denae advised that Brad never acted like that. When told to leave she entered the lower level of the auditorium and went upstairs on the north side of the auditorium to the upper level, As she approached the north door of the aUditorium that leads to the north hall she obe~;ed a group of students who were JUSt opening the door. At this moment there were gun shots in the north hall and the door was closed, and the group of students started back to the south auditorium door. As they approached the deor there were more gun shoes in the south hall so the group went back to the north door and out into the north hall, She reported that the group of students would run then stop. At this point she found a friend, Brian Rathbun. and took ahola of him. She said that she told Brian not to let go of her and they both ran out of the main enterance across the teacher parking lot, and into clement park. Denae said that

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INVESTIGATION; On 04-29~99. 31 about 1100 bcurs. I responded 7321 South Webster Street, where I contacted witness Andy Perlmenn and his

parents. Dennis and Marilyn Petlmann, I advlsedthe family that f was there to interview witness Andy Perfmana in reference to the incident at Columbine High School on 04-20-99_

I first showed witness Andy Perlmann a map of the cafeteriaarea at Columbine High Scheel and asked himwhore he had been seared. He advised he was seated at table #HH with several of hi' friends. He said he was present with Tyler Berch. Jesse Friedman, Ian Patrick. Keith Nackerud, Joshua Brinkley. Ashley Pumley, Jackie Carol.TIm Vaca, Brianna Lurnleu, and a person

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he heard what he estimated to be between 15 to 30 shots. and believedthey were in the cafeteria. Witness Perlmannsaid at the top of the stairs he turned left and he tan down the hall and said he kept running until he was DUt of the school. He then went across the street from Columbine High School to Leawood Park. Witness Perlrnann said while he was at the top of the stairs. he did not hear any noises, any voices. screams, or any other unusual noises coming from the area of the Library.

less Perlmannsaid while he was in Leawood Parkwith rome ofbis friends that he was there approximately 10to 15minutes, and then gunshots were heard comingfrom the area of the school. Witness Perlmannsaid he did not know if they werecoming from inside the scbool or outside the school, nor did he know if the shots were directed :u him or his friends in Leawood Park. Witness Periraanr said from Leawood Park. after the shots. he left southboundon Pierce. and went to the King Soopers store at Ccelmine and Pierce where he called his father

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I left a businesscar-d with witness Andy Perlmann and his parents,and advised them that if they needed some counselingand wanted to arrange through the JeSO Victim Advocate. '0 call me and I wouldarrange that for them.

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Malidwn. Jennifer Colby, and C1lrista Hanley, ran for. spaceill. smallarea..... the bathrooms leediIlg to the _rium. A reecher, Mr, Andres (wenring • gray 'WOalSllirt), led them aadotherstlldcnlS into the Ie_level of;he auditorium. where tbeyran to the upperleveL CUI inID tbeJlllllD ballway, and exired tbe scbccl through the mainenll1lllce, 6,

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did. sbesee any of the injured ""denI3. She also did. not seeor bearanytbing unusual in thecafeteria preceding the warning from the stlldcnlS .. _bed above, Her backpack was left in ee cafeteria at her table,described as green. with aslllifed raccoon pencil bolder, containing her wallet:md !D. Afte' leaving !liescbool, Lydie was oble to ccnractbet lilmily by piloae, and her farha and broraer. Robert. pickedber up aDd brought bet home.

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JCSO 99-1625 1 FBI174A·DN·S74111 1 CONTROL NUMBER: 3006 Investigator Den Pfannenstiel 1West MetnlFIre1303-989-4307 E:xlensioo S30 This lead was received on May 7, 1999 without any information (phone or address) on Lydia Petry (aka: Dee Dee Petry). She was reportedly a cafeteria worker the dayof the incident at Columbine HS.

I researched the local directory, spoke withschool security. spokewithJefferson County (R·ll Schools, spoke withR-I Communications, spoke with Food Service and the Manager of Columbine HS Cafeteria. It appears thar LydiaPerrywas not a parent, security worker. cafeteria aid, food service worker, volunteer or evenemployed by R-l Schools. I thendiscovered that Robert Petry. TCMAssociate, hasa sister named Lydie whomay have been in tile cafeteria at the time of the shooting.

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LAKEWOOD POI.ICE DEPARTMENT SUPPLEMENTAL REPORT - -PORTING AGENT: GEORGE MCGLYNN CASE NUMBER: 99-38856 •• ..:T1M: COLUMBINE HIGH SCHOOL DATE OF REPORT: 04129199 OFFENSE: AOA/COLUMBINE HIGH SCHOOL TASK FORCElJEFFCO SHERJFF'S OFFICE INFORMATION CONTROL NUMBER: ON ,FBI: 174A-DN57419, JSCO: CR#99-7625 SUSPECTS: ERIC HARRIS

DYLAN KLEBOLD WITNESS:

BRADEN PESUSICH DOB: 10/25/81 6414 SOUTH JAY WAY, LITILETON. CO 80128 303-798-9565 MOTHER: DEBORAH PEsUSICH

6414 SOUTHJAY WAY, LITTLETON, CO 80128 303-798-9565 FATHER: DANIEL PESUSICH 6414 SOUTH JAY WAY. LITTLETON. CO 80128 303-798-9565 INYiSTIGATION: On 05/03/991 was assigned Information Control Number DN2513 for follow up investigation. The narrative stated that Jeremy Orban had been in the cafeteria at approximately 7:00 a.rn, The source was Brandi Wiseman, a studentat Columbine High School. On 05/04/99 at 1130hours I met with Jeremy Orban and his mother Joann Sander-Ceder! at

their residence. AlsO present at the residence were two other Columbine students. Braden Pesusich and Ali Boukhalfa. Both Pesusicn and Boukhalfa were present in the cafeteriawith Jeremy Orban and they were also interviewed, Orban stated that he walked 10 schoolon 04/20/99 andthat he arrived at approximately 0710 hours and that he entered the schccl through the main entrance then wenlto his locker and down to ..... commons or cafeteria area. He sllid he met a girl named Can, last name unknownand Brandi Page 1 of 5 Jc.o01- 004064

LAKEWOOO POLICE OEPARTMENT SUPPLEMENTAL REPORT 'PORTING AGENT: GEORGE MeGlYNN

CASE NUMBER: 99-38856 DATE OF REPORT: 04129/99 OFFENSE: AOAlCOlUMBINE HIGH SCHOOL TASK FORCElJEFFCO SHERIFF'S OFFICE INFORMATION CONTROL NUMBER: ON ,FBI: 114A.DN51419, JSCO: CR#99.1625 ~,';TIM: COLUMBINE HIGH SCHOOL

Wiseman. He said they were In the commons for approximately 10 to 15 minutes before first hour. Orban said that he didn't noticeanything unusual in the cafeteria at that time. He didn't noticeany unattended duffel bags or backpacks, although he said he wasn'treally looking for any. Orban left the commons area and went to Spanish on the lower level for first hour. He left Spanish and secondhour went to chemistry on the main level. forthird hour he went to history on the main level and after third hour he went to his lockerand then to fourth hour across from the gymnasium, his math class. He then left his math class and went to the A lunch. He said that when he arrived he got in line to purchase food and after he purchased his pizza he went to sit at his table. He identified the table that he was sitting at as table AA. He said that the other people at his table were Braden Pesuslch, Ali Boukhalfa, Seth Biggi, Ian Hales, NickRomynyshin, Rani Rao, Ryan Baris and Terry, last name unknown. Orban said that he sat down at the table, took two bites of this pizza when he heard a janitor comein through an outside door yelling for everyone to get down. He said that he looked out the windows and saw a person who he believes was Dylan Klebold shot a male student in the leg and throw a pipe bomb into the parking lot. He said that he and otherstudents then got under the tables. He said that then he and other students began running towards the stairs and as they ran Orban could hear what he described as booms thinking In retrospect that these were pipe bombs. Orban said that as he approached the stairs he could see that the stairwell was quite crowded and there was a teacherin the hallway by the food cart directing them down the hall. He said that he ran down the hallunlil he had to make a right and followed that hallway down to the last classroom. He said there were numerous students going into that classroom and there were severalteachers in the class with them. He said thai after several minutes the teachers heardthe shooting from what he believes was upstairs and he, at the direction of Ihe faculty, ran out the $Outh exit doors from this classroom, across the student parking 101 and to a house at Polk Street and Pierce. He said they went in the house for a short time and a student there had a cell phone and he was able to call his mother, He • -'laved he was able to contact her al approximately 11:45 a.m. Orban had been separated from his Page:2 of 5 JC.o01.004065

LAKEWOOO POLICE DEPARTMENT SUPPLEMENTAL REPORT - -PORTING AGENT: GEORGE MCGLYNN CASE NUMBER: 99-38856 ....:TIM: COLUMBINE HIGH SCHOOL DATE OF REPORT: 04129199 OFFENSE: AOAlCOlUMBINE HIGH SCHOOLTASK FORCElJEFFCO SHERIFF'S OFFICE INFORMATION CONTROLNUMBER: ON ,FBI: 174A-DN57419, JSCO: CR#99.7825 friends at the table when he lell the table. Orban did not leave anything behind In the cafeteria. He said he had been wearing brown corduroy's and a green T shirt. He said he took his backpack with him when he left. Orban said that he noticed nothing unusual in the cafeteria prior to the Incident beginning, that he didn't notice any large duffel bags or backpacksthat appeared to be unattended. However, he stated that he probably wouldn't notice such an item because It Is common practice for the students to drop their packs and go get food. using their packs to save a spot. Orban said that he was familiar with the trench coat mafia only by name and knew that they were kids that were trench coats, but had no run In's with them and could provide no further information on the trench coat mafia. He also did not know Eric Hams or Dylan K1ebold. Orban did not know of any students who were building pipe bombs or stockpiHng weapons. He does not have his own web site and does not have Internet access at home.

I next Interviewed Braden Pesusich. He Indicated he had not been In the cafeteria any other time during the day and had gone to the cafeteria for the A lunch. He said that he had come from the upstairs into the cafeteria, had gone to the lunch line and then made his way to the table when the Incidentbegan. He said that he observed people standing up by the west windows and felt perhaps there was a fight. He said that he had a fairly clear view of the kid running up the hili, trying to run up and get away. when he heard more shots. He said that he then observed what he thought were pipe bombs being thrown into the parking lot. He said that he saw one of the gunmen by the windOW shooting down towards the ground. He could not see what the gunman was shoaling at. The only description ha could remember was that this gunman had long curly hair and ,n retrospect thinks it was Dylan Klebold. He said about this time people were starting to run for the stairs to the cafeteria. He said that he ran along the south wall and that he saw a girl screaming. He thought he name might be Kim or Patty Blair. He couldn't be sure becausethe Blair's are twins. He said that the girl was screaming "Ann Marle, Ann Marie". He said that shortly past thiS girl that was screaming. was a male student who was covered With blood. He said he didn't appear to be injured, but he had blood ~"

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LAKEWOOD POUCE DEPARTMENT SUPPLEMENTAL REPORT -"PORTING AGENT: GEORGE MCGLYNN CASE NUMBER: 99-38856 ••':T1M: COLUMBINE HIGH SCHOOL DATE OF REPORT: 04129199 OFFENSE: AOAlCOLUMBINE HIGH SCHOOLTASK FORCE/JEFFCO SHERIFF'S OFFICE INFORMATION CONTROL NUMBER: ON • FBI: 174A-DN57419, JSCO: CR#99-7625

downthe corridor into the language section of the building, He said that he didn't go entirely down the hall. but made a Mght tum by the Special Ed hall. He said as he ran past the stairwell he could hear a rapid sertes of shots from where he believed was efther behind him or upstairs, He said that he then ran down the corridorpast the Special Ed classroom and out of the building. Pesuslch said that he took his pack with him and he was wearing khaki colored pants and a dark blue T shirt and left nothing behind in the cafeleMa. Pesusich said that he was familiarwith the trench coat mafia only by name but had no run In's with them and could provide no further Information on the trench coat mafia. He also did not know EMc Harris or Dylan Klebold. Pesuslch did not know of any students who were building pipe bombs or stockpiling weapons, He does have Internetaccess at home. however he does not have a web page or user name. Pesusich could add nothingfurther, I also interviewed Ali Boukhalfa, who also stated he had only been In the cafeteria during the A , 'ch end that he had come from upstairs, He said he had been in line and was making his way back to the table when the incident began. He heard a commotion and a loud thud outside the west windows. He got up and saw a suspectwith what he believed was a shotgun. He observed him shoot the gun but did not know where he shot it into, He then saw what he thought was a pipe bomb go flying through the air and then the suspect ran to the north side and up the stairs. He then heard several loud bombs as he was gelting down. He said that when the students began to run out of the cafeteria he ran for the stairs. He went up the stairs and then directlyeast out the southeast main entrance and across the straet into the park. He said that as he was running out the corridorhe could still hear gunshotswhich he believed were coming from behind him. Boukhalfa could not identify the person he saw with the shotgun and could provide no further information as to what the person might have been wearing. Boukhalfa left nothing behind, he was wearing jeansand a dark grey T shirt with a marbled lop. Boukhalfa said he was familiar with the trench coat mafia and had seen them around, He also did not know Eric HarriS or Dylan Klebold but that in retrospect he had seen Kiebold around the .A~ool. He had no direct involvement with the trench coat rnafla, but had a friend named Brell

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Sullivan who had transferred to Englewood several months ago for other reasons. Sullivan had bumped into Klebold and they got into a pushing contest Boukhalfa received this information second hand and did not havepersonal knowledge of the incident. He could only add thatthe trench coatmafia members seemed rather odd llInd he stayed away from them. He did not know of any students whO were building pipe bombs or stockpiling weapons and noticed nothing unusual in the school the day this incidentoccurred. He does not have a web page and could add nothing further. BothPesusich and Boukhalfa verifled the students that were at their table. Theyalso indicated on the mapsprovided their routes into and out of the bUilding. Orban indicated his anlrance in a solid orange and his exit in a doted orange. Boukhalfa did his entry in a solid green and

exit in a doted green and Pesusich did his entry in a solid red and his exit in a doted red• •

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Ali Boukhalfa. JeremyOrban, Seth Biggi, Ian Hales, NickRomynyshin, Rani Rae, Ryan Baris andTerry, last name unknown.

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OnMay 5. 1999, between thehoursof 0900and 0935,1 had an opportunity to speakwith Meghan in reference to the Columbine incident that occurred on April ZOo 1999. Also present during the interview was her mother, Pat Piro,

Meghan stated that she arrivedat Columbine HighSchool onthe date of the incidentat about 0720 hours. Upon entering into the school. she proceeded to her locker, whichis locker#1 141 and is across from the gym. She completed her SCheduled classes and was released from her fourth hour mathclass whichis taught in classroomMA·ll by Ms. Dimanna at about 1110 hours A,nignr:d Til

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reddish/orange. She advised that she did not see those two items. Meghan told me that also seated at table (I were: her friends. Julie Naslund,Nicole Ray, Naomi Lucero, and Lauren Beyer. Meghanwas unable to provide me any telephonenumbers for those mends of hers.

Meghanplaced her navy blue Abercrombie performance backpackon the chair at the table and then proceededinto the food service line, She returned to the table a short time later and pro<:eeded to tell me that normallythe cafeteria is real noisy She statedjust as she sal down she recalls the cafeteria gOI real quiet. She also explainedthar she saw a couple of janitors near the food service line and that they weretalking on theirradio" pacingbackand tbt1ll and they motioned 10 the students to getdown. Meghan advised that at first she thought this was sometype of a seniorprank. but not knowing what was goingon she got under the table, A short time later,severalof theoilier students startedto get out fromunderthe tablesand stand up, at which timeone of the janitors yelled at the students to leave the school.

Meghanadvised that all the students within the cafeteriastarted to the east side of the cafeteria and moved up the stairs to the main levelof the school. Meghancontinued to run eastdown the math/science hallway, where she exited from the building and wentto Leawood Park After assembling 10 Leawood Park. she told me that she went to her mend, Lindsy Blair's house.which is Iocated in the area of Arbor Avenue and Marshall Way, Meghan was asked if she saw any gunmen while she was at

Columbine High School or after she exited from the building. She stated that she did not see any gunmen at all.

Meghan was asked if sbe remembers about whatlime she exiled from Columbine High School. At this point Megbaes mother, Par. told me that she believedshe got a cal! fromMeghan around IlJO! 1140 hoursand that Meghanhad told her what had gone on, at which timeshe respondedto Lindsy's house, whereshepickedMeghan up. Meghanwasasked if she heardany gunshots whileshe was at Columbine HighSchool. She told me thatafter she had left the cafeteriaarea and reached the UJp of the stairs that she recallshearing fivegunshotscomingfromthe cafeteriaarea. Meghan was asked if she knew any of the members of the Uni'

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When Meghanwas asked if there was any additional information she would liketo pass on to me, she explained to me thai she was speakingwith a friendof hers by the name of Ashley Egelend, (303)913·3991, who told herthat her sister, Heather Egeland, was at Columbine High School on the incident date and had just exited into the gym hallway when she sa w Eric Harris and a second unidentifiedmale Both parties were dressed in black and they were carrying some type of weapons, Meghan told me that Heather identified Eric Harris as being one of the individuals, and she identifiedthe second party as being somebody other

than Dylan Klebold, She couldn't remember who Ashley told her the other gunmen was. Meghan told me thatthere wasa rumor about school that the bombs that were placed by Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold were scheduled to go off at 1120on April cO, 1999.and once 'he bombs wouldgo off that the fire alarmswould sound in the school, at which time the students would come running out the doors and that Eric and Dylan would be waitingoutside. where they would start shooting 'he students. Since the bombsdid not go oft' as scheduled.Eric and Dylan went back in the school where they started shooting students. Meghan cannotconfirmedwhere this rumorstarted. At the completion of my interview. I asked Meghan to diagramwhereshe wassitting m the cafeteria and her movementout of the building. A copy of that map is attached with this supplemental report,

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Reponing investigator, P J Doyle, is a commissioned peace officer employed by the District Attorney in the First Judicial District serving Jefferson and Gilpin Counties I am currently assigned to assist ininterviewing witnesses from Columbine High School. On May 14, 1999 I spoke to Katelyn SuePlace, a Freshman DOB 6-25-84 7080 W Polk PI. Littleton, CO 80123 303 973-2488 Mother is Susan Work. 303 615-5756 Father is Mathew Kate's mother was present during the interview Kate told methe following She went to all her classes int he morning. She went to the cafeteria for 4th hour It's her offhour She went and sat by the student store and didn't see anything unusual During lunch she waited to meet some friends, Brittany Tyacke}Brittany ~d Kate went V into the cafeteria and sat at table L She was sitting with Brittany, Sarah Gillings, Mary Campbell and Heather(unknown last name. She saidthattherewere someothersthere, but she couldn't remember who it was When Katewas puttingher back packdown, she said that a waveof kidsduckeddown under the tables She thought it was a senior prank Shegot down and then gal up on her knees.

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