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Duffy, Stephanie , 7309 W. Hampden. _5203 Littleton, CO., 80123 303/980-1470 Student, C.H.S., was in cafeteria. CN 1493 on April 29, 1999, this investigator met with Stephanie Duffy at her residence. present during the interview were her parents, Mr. and Mrs. Mike Duffy. Stephanie Duffy stated that on April 20, 1999, after completing her fourth hour gym clas, she went to the cafeteria for lunch. She believed that she a:rrived there at approximately 11.05 a.m .. After pu:rchasing her meal, she sat down at a table with a number of her friends. She identified thelll as. Keni Dooley. Joey Marcotte, Brittany Weeden, Jennifer Comacha(sp?) , Brittany '!yacke, and the following, known to her only by their first names; Matt, Brian, Heather, Katy, and Katie. She advised that between 11.15 and 11.20, she saw about half of the students in the cafeteria get down on the floor. She sa.id she glanced outside to the southwest and could see one person who was firing a gun. She described the person as a llIa1e, tall, about 6', wearing haggy black pants, a red shirt. and a black trench r~~· She 1
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did not recall seeing a hat. She stated that this person was holding what appeared to her to be a double barreled shotgun, "ide by side barrels. She said he was aiming the gun toward the ground and recalled seeing smoke coming from the ba:rrels. She thought he spent some time :reloading the gun and described that as opening the gun's action and loading, then snapping it closed. She said she did not hear the shots when she first observed him, but believes she did hear the gun fire four times. She advised that litudents hegan to run to the stairs and she followed, going upstairs into a science room. She liaid that there were twenty-seven of thelll all together and they stayed there for approximately four hours - until some bomb squad officers got thelll out. Stephanie advised that she did know Brie Harris as he was a friend of a girl who she knew by the name of Fat McDuffy (SP?) She said they would occasionally talk but recalls nothing of any significance. She added that this was last year, not this school year. She stated that the person she saw shooting a gun outside was "probably Eric Harris." She said her opinion is based on photos she has seen of Brie Harris on television and newspapers since the incident and not from recognizing him on that day. She advised that she did not know Dylan. She stated that she did not know the names of any of the trench coat group. Stephanie advised that she had heen wearing black pants, a white Nike shirt with black stripes and neon green stripes around the sleeves. and tennis shoes. Stephanie recalled that while she was in the science room, she heard a lot of gunshots, a lot of screaming. She said some shots were not as loud as others. She thought the shooting went on for an hour. She said at one point, she heard the voice of someone pleaing for their life and heard another voice say, "r don't care." This investigator met a friend of Stephanie'S at her residence, identified as Ken! Dooley. She was interviewed separately.
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On May 5, 1999, between the houtS of 0954 and 1020, I hadan oppol'!Ullily to speak with Nichele reference the incident that occurred at Columbine High School on April20, 1999. Alsopresontat the interview was her mother, Patrice Dunn.
Nichele stated that she arrived at school on April 20, 1999, about 0725 hours, and that she attended her routine classes. I asked
Nichele which class she has founh hour prior to her lunch period. She stared she has fOlllth hour off and she spent founh hour at the seminary house. The seminary house is also located .t6805 WestPolk Avenue. I had other witnesses referto it as the Unit
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the table. Shortlyafter she returned to her tableshe recallsseeinga Janitor. who she described as a white male. skinny. about
5'10'. brown hair. waswearing a Columbme HighSchool trackshirt. The janitcr was waving his arms and telling people (0 get under their tables.At first Nichelethoughtit was some type of a semorprank,but theydid as they weretold and gotunderneath
the tables, A few minutes lapsedand she stated that the students lnside the cafeteriastarted to peer out from under tile tables. Several of themstartedto Stalld up. at which time'he recalls seeing tilestudents whowerenearthe westsideof rhecafeteria start to moveeast,not knowing what was goingon. She stated that she also went withthe students. They proceeded to the stairs and
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Nichele advisedthat once she reached the top ofrhe stairs that she heard several gunshots thaIwere coming from the cafeteria area. Nichele did nOI see any gunmen whileshe was down in the cafeteriaand she continued east down the matb/science hall and laterexited fromthe east side of the school and went to Leawood Park. Once she reachedLeawood Park.she advised mat
she wenrroa friendofher's houseby the nameof BrentO'Neill. I askedNichele if sherecallsabout wnattime she exitedfrom the highschool. She said she believed it wasanywhere from lIeD to 1125 hours. She laterstated thatshe calledher father from Brent's borne. and she believedit was aroundnoon.
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she see any gunmen at Columbine High School, I asked if she had any information concerning the Trench Coat Mafia, specifically EricHarrisor Dylan Klebold or possible associates of the group. She wasunable to provide any information about them. I asked if she knewabout Eric Harrishaving a web site. Again, she Slated she did not have any information aboutthat
Nicbele was askedif sitehad any additional information reference this incident. Sitetold methat she had talked withone of her friends. Sharma Geslin, and that Sharma had told her thal on April 20, 1999. between 0640 and 0700 hours, she (Sharma) observed about six cars in the senior parking lot and thought it was strange that those vehicles were in the I", so early. Sbanna did not provide any information as far as description of the cars or if she knew who owned the cars. At the completion of my interview [ had Nicnele document where she was sittingin the cafeteria and her movement out of the cafeteria, A copy of that mapis attachedwith thtS supplement report.
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Andrea Louise Elsner; DOB 11/~3/1981, 6319 South Chase Court, Littleton, Colorado, telephone (303)795-2160, a junior at Columbine High School, was interviewed at her home in the presence of her parents, William and Roxanne Elsner, by Special Agent (SA) Ricky V. Wright regarding the incident that took place on 04/20/1999 at Columbine High School. After being advised as to the identity of the interviewing agent and the nature of the interview, Elsner provided the following information: At approximately 11:10 am, Elsner got out of Spanish class, taught by Ms. Freund, and left the foreign language department and walked directly to the cafeteria. Elsner set her bookbag at a lunchroom table(marked F on diagram sketch), got her lunch, and sat back down. Elsner remembers that Jessica Arzola, Natascha Avery, Matt Hill, &~er Rosetta, Ben Schumann, and Candace Grande were also sitting at the table. Elsner was sitting facing west. Matt Hill was sitting to Elsner's left and Ben Schumann was sitting to her right. While Elsner was eating, Hill got up to get something from Rebel Corner and came back and said there was someone with a gun. Elsner then heard a shot and everyone in the oafeteria got down under the tables. Elsner saw Mr. Sanders running east on the northside of the cafeteria, telling everyone to get down. Elsner heard a couple more shots while under the table and could hear a few of the girls crying. Elsner was under the table approximately one minute, when she heard more shots that sound.ed really loud and close. Elsner thought the shots may have been in the cafeteria. These shots caused everyone to get up and start running. Elsner started to run up the stairs, but tripped aad hit her head on the stair rail. Elsner may have blacked out a moment, but someone helped her up. Elsner made it to the top of the stairs, when something exploded just around the corner to the right of the top of the stairs, which caused Elsner to fall again. Elsner got up and ran across the hall to a science classroom. Elsner hid in the classroom with approximately seven other students and a teacher, Mr. Craft. While they were hiding, Elsner could hear two individual running up and down the south
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At approximately 11:35 am, Craft propped a table in front of the main door to the classroom. Whil. h. was propping up the table, someone shot once through the window on the door and hit the table. Craft then had the stud.nts crawl over and hide in a cabinet-like vent at the back of the classroom. There was just enough room for everyone to g.t in. Elsner recalls that she stopped hearing shots sOOn aft.r the shot came through the door at approximately 11:35 am. At approximately 12:00 pm, Mr. Friesen came in from an adjacent classroom and told Craft to get a fire extinguisher for defense. Friesen said Mr. Sanders had been ahot and that he thought the gunmen had been caught in a nearby field. At approximately 2:30 pm, Friesen came and had Craft, Elaner, and the others in the classroom Come and join two other classes that had been hiding in the science area. Elsner recalls that Jessica Arzola Waa with cne of the other classes. At: approximately 3:15 pm, a SWAT team came and took them out the east hall of the science ar.a, east down the south main hall, north into the social studies d.partment, and th.n out an exit on the .ast sid.. Once outside, Elsner got on a bus that took her to L.awood Elementary.
Elsner was not in the cafeteria at any other tim. that day. Elsner did not see any large duffle bags sitting in the cafeteria during lunch. Elsner did not know Eric Harris, Dylan Klebold, or any other members of the Trenchcoat Mafia. Elsner is aware that Matt Bruce and Ben Schumann are usually in the cafeteria during fourth period and usually save a table for fifth period lunoh. Elsner is aware that Jessica Brown was in the cafeteria during lunch and saw Oylan Klebold right outside. Elsner does not have any Internet scr.en name. On the day of the shooting, Elsner was ...earing blue jeans and a gray aleeveless sweater v.st with a white t-shirt und.rn.ath. Elsner never had any indication that anything was going to happen that day.
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ELISHA ENCINIAS. Columbine High School student, DOB 2/23/83,5686S, Lowell Blvd.. Littleton, Colorado, 80[23. (303) 134-[014.
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AgentJerry W. Mell115, Colorado Bureau of Investigation, 690 Kipling Street, Denver, Colorado, 80215, (303) 239-4211.
DATEITIME OF INTERVIEW; PLACE OF INTERVIEW; ASSIGNMENT SYNOPSIS;
Apri120, 1999, at approximately 02:00 p.rn, In the east parkinglot of Clement Park. Littleton. Colorado, during the SWAT evacuationof students from theschool. The Reporting Agent interviewed Ms. ElishaENCINIAS as she was evacuated from the Columbine High Scheel. Ms. ENCINIAS stated she was in the cafeteria eating her lunch at approximately I [;20 a.m.. when the shooting started. Shestared a studentcarne into the cafeteria yelling "Someone Just Shot Someone". She stated everyone started screaming andshe saw three people with guns corning into the cafeteria. Ms. ENCINIAS stated one of the gunmen had a longblackcoot, and she did not recognize him. She statedthe othertwo shooters were a current student, and a student thathad graduated lastyear. She
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dobI02,23,83. wlto residesat 5686 South Lowell Boolevan:l, Itome pirone (3Q3)7J4-10 14,studenlat Columbine HighSchool. Agent Barnett andmyselfcontacted Encinias reference a leadsbeet.
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known as the hmch room. at 10:20 a.m., sittingwithfriends, Michelle Cowens, Lindsey Deyle(303-979-11 SI), andothers. she
could not remember the names, Encinias saidtheywere all doing homework. EnciRias stated they were seated at a table right nextto the stairs. When shown a diagram, 'he statedit waslable"T." Encinias said whenshe became aware of the incident. it was approximately 11:30 a.m.. Encinias said a girl, who is a Freshman and was in the Sll1IIe German classas her,ran into the lunchroomstating someone was shooting outside. Encinias also said ,he observed kidsnmningeverywhere, and thaIJanitors weretelling students to "get down. gel down." Encinias said Alisia Mays llm intothe ll1llch roomfrom lbesidedoorsaying the •..ISpeCts were throwing pipe bombs. Encinias said everyone at her tableran upstairs towards the library. Encinias said she
grabbed lbehandofRyanPool. Encinias said OlIO. upstairs, sotne rantowards the Science area. andothers towards the Library. Encinias said she waswitha malereacher described as white haired andglasses. Encinias said as they were running down the hallway, she said, "We both saw lbe gunmen coming in the side doors, at which time they began to shoot at us." Encinias said her and the teacher began running in towards the school, at which timesheobserved the teachertall oulofthe comerof hereye.
Encinias stated shealso tell,and gotbackup. Encinias descrihed the two gunmen as (#1,a while malewitlliongbrown hairand a trench coat,and he is the one who started ,hooting at herand the teacher usingwhat she described as a long gun), and (#2. whom she was _ble to describe, and he was observed doingnothing). Encinias Slated suspect #2 did not have a trench Coat on. Encinias saidwhen she tell in thehallway afterlosingvisual contact with the teacher, that she was told 10 get up by Mrs. Miller, another teacher in the school, Encinias then began to run again andwentintothe classroom of Mrs. Williams, whowas still teaching the class,and asked whlll was going on. Encinias said shetold Mrs. Williams there was gUllfue in the school, at
which time Mrs. Williams directed her cl.... approximately 30 to 3S stodcnts, to go into a storage area locatedbehindthe classroom, described by Encinias as the greenhouse room. Encinias stated while hidingin the storage area, more shooting was occurring in rhe school. Encinias stated thatwbilel1iding in the storage room. sheheard lire a1anns, more shooting, and thatthe
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area, at which time they were searchedand dlrected to exit the building, having to run over what she describedas • male body located by the step!!, and a female body in the upper wast side of the rear ofthe school. Encinlll53t:ated whOll she fell in the hallway. sbe receiveda rug bum to her knee. and no other injuries.
Encillias slllted wbile in the !ItOr8ge aml, biding for appmximaliely 30 min_ afterthe stan of the im:ident, whonshe overlteard a calInvoicestate, .hmU1'e you. 11101' 1llree,~ and then laqbte1'. Encillias statodit was her belief that the individual said •
bill it could have possibly boon "Yo.~ Encinias 3t:atod someeime before the explosionand after the fire alarm,that she
hostd an individual'sexcitedvoice screaming, "You ale an going to die. you are aJllIOing to die:' and then laughter. Encinias
slllted in the storageroom, she was withlbe following students: Lauren Beecham, MeganKellog, Courtney Herival, JasonBaer (looking out the windows), Amy Totty, EmilyKillingsworth. Laura (unknown last name),Travis Meason (next to the door in the storagearea), and Doreen Salazar (keeping t:racl< of time).
EnciniasSlated she believes theyexited the storageroom around. 2:45 p.m., by the SWATTeam. Encinias also stated that two students that were in the area of the Librarywere Heidi Johnsonand Britlal1Y Balaruid,
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This investigator was assigned a followup interview with Elisha after it was reported she may have seen a suspect in the cafeteria. lUbha stated her first interview was at the triad set up at the scene and she spoke with l?BI agent Mike Barnett. and JCSO detect.ive Jack: McFadden. Elisha was informed that someone thought she had stated seeing Joe Stair in the cafeteria prior to the shooting at CBS. EliSha stated She didn' t see , but heard someone during the shooting state, . . . Where are you? I got three of them." The shooter then laughed. Elisha stated she heard this from the greenroom where she was hiciing with others and the sound of the voice came from the common area going toward the Library from the Cafeteria. She stated she ciidn' t recognize the voice. Elisha then reiterated her involvement at cas. She stated she is a sophomore at the school and was in the Cafeteria during 4th. period, A-lunch, from 11:10 A.M. until 11,40 A.M. Elisha was sitting at table T with Michelle Cowles anel several other people. ~
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Elisha stated they were eating their lunch when a girl, she identified frcm the '99 year book, Courtney Haulman ran into the cafeteria from outside, using the South door. Courtney Haulman said someone waS shooting someone outside. At this same time a custodian yelled for everyone to get down. Elisha went on to say a bomb went off outside and everyone got up and she grabbed Ryan Pool's hand and started upstairs, but got separated from Ryan. El1sha stated she was running next to a teacher up the !itairs whom she believed to be Mr. Sanders. As she and Mr. Banders turned at the top of the stairs to go right and then down the hall in front of the library a gunman began shooting at them from beyond the library closer to the double outside doors on the West side. At this t1me Elisha stated Mr. Sanders fell and she turned to run the other way. Elisha ",ent on to say another teacller, MIl. Miller yelled to get up and run. Elisha stated she ran into Ms. Williams' room and told them and then they all went into the greenhouse from Ms. Williams' room. Elisha. stated upon entering the greenhouse, Dorian Salazar was timing the whole thing and it went from 11:25 A.M. until rescued by SWAT at 2:45 or 3:00 P.M. Elisha was asked to describe the gunman. She stated he was a W-M, 0'2", dark brown hair, shoulder length with a black hat on, the bill of the hat was in front. He was wearing a black trench coat and had on dark clothing, holding a gun, black with two handa and firing it rapidly. 1l1isha ..tated she saw the gunman near the double doors from the West side before the doors into the library. Elisha stated when she was in the greenhouse she also heard a gunman say; 'You're all going to die, you're all going to die." Then she heard laughter. Blisha stated this happened about 4S lllinutes after being in the greenhouse.
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She also stated she left a shoulder book bag, blue with a brand name that starts with an A at table 'I' in the cafeteria. She stated it contai:ils papers with her name on them and 1-$10 bill and 3-$1 dollar bills in it. The interview was concluded at this time.
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REPORTING AGENCY: JC80 ,.REPORTING OFFICER, DEPUTY STEVE LUCIANO...J. '- , DATEOFTHISREPORT: H-&-99 CONTROL #5065 WITNESS: Encinias, Elisha, DOB/2-23-83 5686 S. LowellBlvd. Littleton, Co. 80123 303-734-1014 INVESTIGATION: On 11-3-99 Columbine HighSchool student ElishaEnciniaswas re-interviewed at 5686S. Lowell Boulevard, bet mother, Deanne Encinias, was presentduring the interview. The purposeof the interview was to clarify Elisha's observations during the 4-20·99 shootings at Columbine High School. Elisha was first interviewed on 4-20-99 at about 1400 by Agent Jerry Meansof the CBI. In that interview Elisha reported seeingthreepeoplewith guns coming intothe cafeteria,
Elisha was interviewed again on 4-26-99 by Investigator Mcfadden and Special AgentMikeBarnell. In that interview Elishareported seeingtwo gunmen coming in the west side doors as she and a teacher(nowknownto be Mr. Sanders) were nmningdownthe hallway where the library is located. Elishareported that she and the teacherwere beingshot at as they were running down the hallway. Elisha reported seeingthe teacherfall and statedthat she also fell. Elisha got back up and ran into a classroom. As I beganmy interview with Elisha, I asked her if she still believed she saw threepeoplewith guns coming into the cafeteria. Elishatold me no, that she neversaw anyonecorning into the cafeteriawith guns. I then showedher the report by AgentMeans and pointedout the part where it states she saw three people with guns. Elishatold me that partof the report is not accurate, and she doesn't recallmakingthat statement. Elishastatedthat she was in the cafeteria when the shootingbegan. According to Investigator McFadden'sreport, Elisha was seated at table "T". Elishastated that a female studentcame nmning into the cafeteria from outsideyellingthat there were guys shooting people outside. Elisha stated that she hid under the table she was sitting at and stayedunderthe tablefor about one minute. Elisha then gut up and ran up the stairs and downthe hallway towardsthe library. She stated that Mr. Sanders was with her and that he was approximately two feet behind her. As she was running. Elishasaw a male enterthe school from the westdoors. Elisha stated that the malewas tail, wearing a black trenchcoat, and he bad long blackhair. (In Investigator McFadden's reportElishadescribes this personas havinglong brown hair.) Elishastated that the male bad a black gun in his hand and beganshooting at her and Mr. Sanders.
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The interview was concluded with EIisba andher mother having no concerns in reference to an additional gunman.
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Crystal Michel Enney, DOe 0~(~3(19S1, 6385 South Webster Street, Littleton, Colorado, telephone (303)972-3410, a senior at Columbine High School, was interviewed at her home in the presence of her mother, Mary Enney, by Special Agent (SA) Ricky V, Wright regarding the incident that took place on 04(20(1999 at Columbine High School. After heing advised as to the identity of the interviewing agent and the nature of the interview, Enney prcvided the following informacion: At approximately 11:10 am, Enney got out of philosophy class, taught by Mr. Kritzer, and left the language and social studies hall. Enney then walked to her locker, which is in the south main hall across from the math department. Bnney stayed at her locker and talked for two or three minutes with her friends, Rachel Erbert and Dana Este.rak. Esterak then went to class and Bnney and Erhert went directly to the cafeteria. Enney set her bookbag at a lunchroom table (marked Q or X on diagram sketch), got her lunc ack emembers that Kim /' Wollenberg, Kirsten Youn, rianne Zimmer and Rachel Erber~were all sitting at e t e. Enne. 'ing facing southeast. Bnney thinks that Young was sitting facing southwest and Wollenherg was sitting to Enneys right. Enney had been eating about five minutes, when she heard people yelling and saw Mr, Sanders by the northwest corner of the cafeteria telling people to get down. Everyone then got down under their tables. Enney heard a couple of shots, which sounded like they were outside the cafeteria doors by the faculty lounge. Bnney then hegan to scoot on the floor toward the stairs. Enney heard a couple of more shots and then everyone started to get up and run. Bnney jumped up and ran as well. She ran up the stairs, then east down the hall, and out the exit at the end of the hall. Once outside, Enney ran across Pierce Street to Leawood Park. Enney was also in the cafeteria during second period. She was sitting by herself at one of the tables near the serving lines. Enney thinks she was there from apprOXimately 8:35 am to 9:~0 am, Enney estimates that there were 30 students in the cafeteria during second period. Enney did not see the gunmen during the shooting and did not remember seeing any large duffle
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This subject wasInterviewed by Denver Police depilltlTlenl detective P W.S<:01l 68139.
During the interview Rachel related the following informancn: She is • senior at Columbi:oe High Scbcol and drives to school paricillg her car in me senior parking lot On the dayof me incidenl she arrived at oppm_ly 07;45 brs, and entered the building bythe main emrance (fronl door). Shedid notobserve anyrJ:ti:og unusual or OUI of place. Rachel storedshe takes"A" lunch and on !his dare blought her Iu""h with her Shewas shown. map of tae lunchroom and seated shewas at table "Q" wmch shedesignated oy marking an X and then signed hername. Shewas silting at the 10:00 c' clockposition. Wben was siltingwllhC'Ystal Enney, Kristetl Young, Bri Zi:oamer ..d Kim Woil.nberg. Rachel related mal some [aaiscrs ranoy telling the people to got down. Believing it to be a ..niorprankRache! and her mend gel under the tablear whicb timeshe beard an explosion coming from the 0 _ courtyard. While in this position Rachel relate d she did not observe lillY large ball' or backpacks in her vicuril)'. Racbel relaled the S1UdelllS around her then began 10 ron and she followed the crowd running up the stairs10 the second floor. When shegot to thetopof tbe stairs sne looked to berright andobserved a boy in the hall by the library who wastrying tojump OUI of the of gun sbOtS and Mr. Sanders down on the floor bleeding from his face and back. It appeared he had been shce, Rachel when questioned aboUI !hi. sWedshe did not see either K1ebold or Hams at this time.
Rachel connneed rc run sown the main Il.1lII ""d then into the Math haJl then went OUI in'" Leawood Park. At tbe and of tlle interview Rachel said ,be has amend. Catherine Nelson who told her tile foUowing information: She{C:ttherine) sometime prior to the incident was ina
room(Band-room) withDustin Gorton. Dustin was playing wh:h • bottle of compressed gas. Catherine tOld himto SlOp and Duson explainedthe gas could never blowup Dustin, _ fur1ller thatPropane gasis very combustibie and went on toelaborate 00 tios theme to some exte.t
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Witness information: Amy Evans deb 9-26·80 n14 W. Ontario. PI. Uttl' . 'no ColOraod80123 ph ·973-4766
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Control N'll1ber~ ASSIGNED TO: Agen, Larry A Brown, Cclceado B.",.", of Invesnganon, 690 Kipling St., Suite4000, Denver, CO. 802125, ph""" (303) 239-421 1. OATEtI'IME of INTERVIEW: May 10. 1999,4:55 p.m, PLACEof L'ITERVIEW: 7714 W,Omano PL.. Littleron, CO DlsPosmON: INTERVIEW THE FOllOWINO: AMY MICHELLE EVANS, OOll: 09-26-80,7714W, Ontario PL. Littletnn,CO, phone(303)9334766 EVANSstatedshe was seared in tile 'oul!Jeast cornerof tbe Columblne HighScbool cafeleli. wilen the in<:ident began, EVANS said sne wassittingwithJamie ERICKSON, Tina BERNACCl, Malt OLIVER, and KeUy ADMQN A. Sbe Was wearing a red tanktop with navybi•• and !>elg< ,tripes, bluejeans, and brownclog sryte .b""". According to EVA'IS, sb••nteredtll. cafe"",. at apprn
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TEAM FOUR INTERVIEW GUIDELINE :MINIMAL QUESTIONS TO BE ASKED L DidyoUVOf see dietwo 1argedu!l'el bop '" thecafetoria? ?til/Ilfl"
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Kent Thomas FONCANNON was interviewed at his residence, 5153 S. Cody Street, Littleton, Colorado on May 12, 1999 at approximately 8:45 AM. He was advised of the personal and professional identity of the writer and the purpose for the interview. FONCANNON's parents, Thomas and Barbara FONCANNON were present during the interview. FONCANNON advised that he is a freshman at Columbine High Sohool and has 'A" lunch, FONCANNON stated that on April 20, 1999 he entered the oafeteria at approximately 11:15 AM, coming from math olass. FONCANNON sat at a table along the west wall of the oafeteria. He viewed a diagram of the cafeteria provided by the writer and stated that he believed he had been sitting at table "TT". FONCANNON sat at the table for what he estimated to be approximately fifteen minutes before getting inte the cafeteria servinq line to bUy lunch. FONCANNON estimated that the time was approximately 11:30 AM when he got into the line. While standing in the line FONCANNON observed student Chris MARKHAM running through the cafeteria from west to east yelling,
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