T5 B64 Gao Visa Docs 2 Of 6 Fdr- 4-8-03 Gao Telecon W Beer Re Visa Revocation 593

kk? Memo to File: Teleconference with Richard Beer Date: April 8, 2003 From: Kate Brentzel I spoke with Richard Beer in the Coordination Division of State's Visa Office. I told him that in our analysis of visa revocation certificates and cables, we occasionally saw different revocation dates on the two documents. I asked him which date was the official revocation date. He confirmed that the date on the revocation certificate was the actual, official date of revocation (this is the date when the Deputy Assistant Secretary for Visa Services signs the certificate). He explained that we might occasionally see a slightly different date (usually a day or two earlier) on the revocation cable because the officer responsible for preparing the cable might prepare it a few days before the certificate is signed, and then forget to record the actual date the certificate is signed. In determining the date of revocation, therefore, we should always go by the date on the signed revocation certificate. I also asked Mr. Beer why we saw so many visa revocations made around the same date. He said that this was because the Visa Office would frequently receive information from intelligence agencies about several people at one time. Finally, I mentioned to Mr. Beer that during our data collection at the INS Lookout Unit, we came across 90 revocation cases in which no revocation certificate was faxed from State to the Lookout Unit. He said that he believes that they were sent but that the Visa Office has no way of proving this because they don't keep fax transmission records for every case. He said that it is possible that they were faxed to INS but that INS did not receive them or that INS lost them or that INS does not have a record of them. However, the Visa Office does not have proof of faxing them to the INS Lookout Unit.