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Meeting Transcript Handout: http://www.pdfcoke.com/doc/16110153/The-Heroes-of-OFP-2nd-Meeting-Handout - Images: http://img34.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=flickrq.png A much more casual converstation then our first meeting. 12:38] <Sir_Polaris> Alright, so if you'll open the handout [12:38] <Sir_Polaris> as well as the image page in the topic [12:39] Actually, i think no-one in our country is fully capable to habndle the languagXd [12:39] <Sir_Polaris> All done? [12:39] rgr [12:39] <MaNu_SoLo> yeah [12:39] y [12:39] <MaNu_SoLo> so, I vote yes [12:39] <Sir_Polaris> Ok image that looks like a arrow open it :D [12:39] <Marxus> yeas [12:40] <Sir_Polaris> So thats my motivation picture [12:40] what arrow? [12:40] omg.. [12:40] <Marxus> the far right pic [12:40] http://img197.imageshack.us/i/picturek.png/ [12:40] finn ^ [12:40] <Sir_Polaris> the arrow represents he level of activity of the Heroes group. [12:40] <Sir_Polaris> As we push closer and closer to the demo the demands and news and all the jazz will peak. [12:41] <Sir_Polaris> So keep that in mind as this will shape out near future, our need and everything else. [12:41] <Sir_Polaris> needs* [12:41] <Sir_Polaris> after the release, the demands on the group will drop but will he higher then now. [12:41] <Sir_Polaris> The days before release and demo will be nuts. [12:41] <Sir_Polaris> but if captured well, will grow the heroes and the community greatly. [12:42] <Sir_Polaris> ah poop. [12:42] <MaNu_SoLo> ok [12:42] <Sir_Polaris> Ok, take a look at the notes, I'm going to find the members that want to join list [12:42] <Sir_Polaris> before I forget them a 3rd time. [12:42] Pyromandan (hero) has entered OFP2. [12:42] can i invite him in here polaris [12:43] <Sir_Polaris> Sure. [12:43] invite sent [12:44] <Sir_Polaris> Well I cant find them. [12:44] <Sir_Polaris> and I wont waste your time. [12:44] <Sir_Polaris> So the first tabled issue I want to speak about is: • Polaris getting a job. [12:44] <MaNu_SoLo> cool [12:44] And probably the most neccesairy one to discuss [12:45] <Sir_Polaris> As this is going to be a bit of a hamper so due to how I run my shop. [12:45] :) [12:45] <Sir_Polaris> Basicly I wont be able to be here 24/7 like I do. [12:45] <Sir_Polaris> Most of you go and show up, leave and show up later. [12:45] <Sir_Polaris> I'm here when you wake up (EST people) and here far after people sleep :D
[12:46] <Sir_Polaris> but I wont be here to check on news, and all that stuff or give guidence. [12:46] <Sir_Polaris> so somthing needs to be done, to move heroes from fanbase to working staff. [12:46] Sir_Polaris some of us are in school/work/holidays so we cant always be here [12:46] <someguywho> Do we get payed? [12:46] lol [12:46] <Sir_Polaris> I know ZaRiF|E3 or someguywho - and thats why I dont push it. [12:46] He'll come up with it later guys, wait a while:) [12:46] voluntry probably. [12:46] <Sir_Polaris> no no, [12:47] <someguywho> ok [12:47] <Sir_Polaris> by working staff, I mean less "Hey polaris you pwn" [12:47] <Sir_Polaris> and more"Hey I did some Q and A to help out" [12:47] <someguywho> Its a group effort guys [12:47] I'm here practically 24/7 [12:47] <Sir_Polaris> most of the heroes group is allready this, just we have laggards and they are gone soon. [12:47] hey i did some Q and A to help out. [12:47] <Sir_Polaris> I know ZaRiF|E3 let me finish :D [12:47] : ) [12:47] I would strongly suggest, to be capable of handling this, we should use our in-group chat more often [12:47] <Sir_Polaris> However I cover alot of things. [12:47] <Sir_Polaris> with me being afk, though alot of things are only in my hands. [12:48] <Sir_Polaris> like Flickr, youtube and the like. [12:48] <Sir_Polaris> Also there will need to be people to keep tabs on news and media and e-mail me or at least make a news post. [12:48] <Sir_Polaris> I'm working on ways to get things open to you guys. [12:48] <Sir_Polaris> So you can use things I "own" so to say. [12:48] <Sir_Polaris> But basicly the issue here is, do you think we have enough people? [12:49] <Sir_Polaris> I know if 20 people all did 1 think, we got 20 things. [12:49] <Sir_Polaris> but the problem with the internet is as noted, people are not allways here. [12:49] <Sir_Polaris> this is not a job, and people dont like working. [12:49] <MaNu_SoLo> sounds like french people... [12:49] <Sir_Polaris> so simple small tasks over a large amount of people works the easyest. [12:50] <Sir_Polaris> or you get soild people and get 7 pages in your mail box :D (effectivly 4 peoples worth) [12:50] <Sir_Polaris> So what do you think about this issue? [12:51] I think we should have our own, fully up chat channel first [12:51] Yes. i think the heroes has enough people, think, if we have loads of people. it will be very chaotic and hard to manage, however if you have a tight-knit group then its easier to manage, Efficient and it works, like Teh Office. [12:51] <someguywho> spreading the work load can only be good but it must be controlled [12:51] To discuss certain issues [12:51] True, Like Zarif said, it must be a tight group [12:51] not people we don't even know being in it [12:51] <someguywho> agreed [12:52] like, look how much work we got done on that day/couple of days. Also Look how many people turned up to this meeting, im sorry but it is kind
of pathetic. [12:52] <Sir_Polaris> I agree. [12:52] <Sir_Polaris> but it's hard to push people to do somthing, so you need to get people that care. [12:52] We should discuss some of those people in the first place, to become tighter and more organized [12:52] <Sir_Polaris> That will be a task for monday. [12:52] 9 people.. we have.. how many people in the heroes? 25+ and only 9 have turned up. [12:52] <Sir_Polaris> I think I will axe everyone that haven't shown up, replyed or acted to the mailing list. [12:53] <Sir_Polaris> Heroes group is 58 - 5 [12:53] <MaNu_SoLo> for being organized, we first have to table what jobs have to be done, and after find the best organisation [12:53] <Sir_Polaris> However what punishment is given for tasks not done? [12:53] i think. to be honest the smaller the group. the effective the outcome.. abit like a SAS group. xD [12:53] <MaNu_SoLo> run nude on the street ? [12:53] <MaNu_SoLo> no.. [12:53] I've been looking into our member list, and I found a guy called Giaki_ITA [12:53] Locked outside their house on annual gayday. [12:54] The guy got 2 posts, and hasn't been active for 10 days [12:54] <MaNu_SoLo> I mean, will be nice to have binome for the diferent tasks [12:54] ^ fail. [12:54] to uber's reply [12:54] <MaNu_SoLo> if one for any reason can't be present or do his task, the other can do it [12:54] <Sir_Polaris> then if this is often we replace the person? [12:54] <someguywho> that would work [12:55] Sure, but we don't need lurkers just to profit from our good name [12:55] I'm not that active in the Community either [12:55] <MaNu_SoLo> of course [12:55] <Sir_Polaris> So basicly. [12:55] im making a graph quickly.. [12:55] I do this ten times more than anything [12:55] <Sir_Polaris> Our gameplan for me employed and being here less is doing tasks while I'm away and freeing up home time for leadership and dealing with issues? [12:56] <Sir_Polaris> This does mean though, many members will need to posess skills I posses to do the tasks I do - like update websites and premotions. [12:56] <Sir_Polaris> Which will segway in a moment to another issue. [12:56] <Sir_Polaris> I guess if we got good people, and set up a system of brother hood. [12:57] <Sir_Polaris> we could teach each other? [12:57] i guess so.. [12:57] <Sir_Polaris> but wont people become annoyed or bored? [12:57] mhm [12:57] <someguywho> not if its a passion [12:57] Agreed [12:57] <Marxus> agreed [12:57] <MaNu_SoLo> I mean two groups, one for media (video, pictures) and one for news (posts etc) will be enought ? [12:57] I hardly play anymore to sta on the forum:p [12:57] y [12:57] I can really find myself in that, kakeshoma;) [12:58] Polaris.. quick question.. how many people turned up to meeting
1? [12:58] <Sir_Polaris> I always run across the problem of people just disappearing. Like Alex - great guy, but where is he? never around to help with images. [12:58] <Sir_Polaris> 8? [12:58] <Sir_Polaris> oh [12:58] ok [12:58] <Sir_Polaris> 1 sec [12:58] Anyway, if we want to do it, and i'm sure some of us want, we need to fix some things [12:58] <Marxus> nearly the same people [12:58] <MaNu_SoLo> brb [12:59] Giaky for example, he showed up, posted 2 times, joined the heroes because they seem populair, and didn't come back for 10 days [12:59] <Sir_Polaris> • FinnishFighter • Marxus • SomeGuyWho • ZaRiF215 • PrairieGhost78 • TyroKiller • Manu_Solo • Adireflex [12:59] ok 8 [12:59] and you equals 9 [12:59] <Sir_Polaris> Regardless of that ubermachtig we will get to him :D [13:00] <Sir_Polaris> So by a show of votes we are confident here that as we are we can function as a passion it group to pick up the void missing by me? (yes or no) [13:00] <someguywho> yes [13:00] <someguywho> if one man can do it... [13:00] yeh [13:00] <Marxus> yes [13:01] I'm not sure if we can function as good as we do without your precense, but I'm definitely dedicated to help the community [13:01] <Sir_Polaris> i'll take it manu would say yes. [13:01] Yes, though, I think we'll manage to take care of it, but we still need you leadership [13:01] <Sir_Polaris> I am with ubermachtig in my judgement, and such fearful that disrepair will commence. [13:02] <Sir_Polaris> Although I really dont have a choice. [13:02] <someguywho> but you will still be here to organise us [13:02] <Sir_Polaris> the issue is not "should I get a job" but what to do about. [13:02] If we like it or not, Without pol it'll probaly turn into a mess within 7-14 days [13:02] <Sir_Polaris> I will be here at nights. [13:02] <Sir_Polaris> I hope [13:02] <Sir_Polaris> ok [13:02] <Sir_Polaris> So I guess then a action plan will be [13:02] I'll be on pretty much 24/7 [13:02] <Sir_Polaris> I look into getting features opened up. [13:03] <Sir_Polaris> and start putting in place task delegation system. [13:03] <Sir_Polaris> and figure out ways to deal with non preformers. [13:03] <Sir_Polaris> this weekly meeting would be most effecitve [13:03] True [13:03] <Sir_Polaris> people who are getting craped on by underpreforming members can be axed here. [13:04] yep [13:04] <Sir_Polaris> A small trial - of why, and how will you work to correct what you did. If he fails to show or doesn't care - then we should remove him anyways. [13:04] <Sir_Polaris> I think that would work well. Pending the person doesn't hide or lie. [13:04] lieing being the obvious one here.. [13:04] <Sir_Polaris> Now I'm going to need a web developer. [13:05] <Sir_Polaris> anyone know anyone on the fourms :D
[13:05] <Sir_Polaris> or can anyone forthought anything that might be of need. [13:05] About Polaris being less active, to get it working, we'll need communication between members, it's probably the most neccesairy thing to get this thing working. Without communication, it'll go bad, and I mean bad. I've seen this often at my school, groups not communicating efficient will get a drastical decrease in performance, resulting in less higher notes then people that are really communicating as a team. [13:05] My suggestion would be a own Heroes-dedicated chat channel, like this one, but up for 24/7 to communicate more efficient. [13:05] try asking tyrokiller.. he seems to have alot of contacts. [13:05] <MaNu_SoLo> back [13:05] <someguywho> good idea [13:05] Yes. [13:05] Uber good thinking [13:06] by the way.. my graph. (made on paint) [13:06] <Sir_Polaris> Regardless I'm happy to see the correct line of thinking ubermachtig [13:06] http://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv255/IxiSnipe925xI/664433hh.png [13:06] uber :P thats why is tayed in this channel [13:06] :D [13:06] i stayed* [13:06] <MaNu_SoLo> pol, what are the tasks we have to do ? [13:06] execute my sister [13:06] <MaNu_SoLo> I say that, coz I won't be on line longer, need to cook for my daughter en me [13:06] <Sir_Polaris> Right now as of this part of the meeting just a thing for monday in the handout. [13:06] <Sir_Polaris> rgr [13:07] <Sir_Polaris> Check the derifing. [13:07] <MaNu_SoLo> My ideas: [13:07] <someguywho> good graph ZaRiF [13:07] :) [13:07] <MaNu_SoLo> I think we need to do tasks about media (video and screen) [13:07] <MaNu_SoLo> and news via thread [13:07] <MaNu_SoLo> maybe I'm wrong , but seems to be the two big tasks [13:07] <Sir_Polaris> noted. [13:08] <MaNu_SoLo> the best way, would be to have group for each kind of tasks [13:08] <Sir_Polaris> Allright to get in one more before you need to go :D [13:08] <Sir_Polaris> What to do about The General Decay [13:08] <MaNu_SoLo> one for media, and one for news [13:08] explain polaris. [13:08] <Sir_Polaris> if you scroll in your notes its the 7th paragraph [13:08] <Sir_Polaris> I predicted your need ZaRiF|E3 like a goodleader :D [13:08] brb [13:09] <MaNu_SoLo> after, the pb is how groups live together, how they communicate, and which tools we can have for the communication [13:09] <Sir_Polaris> pb? [13:09] back [13:09] <MaNu_SoLo> we can make two group of 3 or 4 members [13:09] ahh Well done polaris #06[13:09] * ZaRiF|E3 pats head [13:09] <MaNu_SoLo> I saw some said to have a irc chat #06[13:09] * Sir_Polaris purrs [13:09] <someguywho> lol [13:09] <MaNu_SoLo> I mean, a group of 3-4 people can auto managed themself and use msn [13:09] jsut stay in this channel
[13:09] lol [13:09] its aldready passworded [13:10] Thats my job to purr! [13:10] <MaNu_SoLo> if one doesn't do his job, the 2 or 3 others put him out [13:10] no its your job to give.... [13:10] But it'll dissapear when everybody leaves, when we register a channel at gamesure, it'll be up 24/7 [13:10] PJ's to orphans [13:10] <someguywho> the password is on #ofp2 [13:10] And, it's free:) [13:10] <Sir_Polaris> Ill get that setup ubermachtig . [13:10] <Sir_Polaris> If there is demand, we should do it. [13:10] <Sir_Polaris> You can all use IRC #03[13:10] * ZaRiF|E3 is now known as ZariF|McDo [13:10] <Sir_Polaris> and I hope anyone we can recuit can use IRC [13:11] <Sir_Polaris> Anyways [13:11] <Marxus> if not we'll teach him to use irc [13:11] <Sir_Polaris> about Decay [13:11] <Sir_Polaris> I think I can paste it: [13:11] <Sir_Polaris> Decay - the general sense of abandoment and lack of intrest or care, and aging of that which is not updated; is the greatest threat to active communitys like ours. Matiance and vigilance is key to avoiding Decay. [13:11] It's acutally embarresing there are so less heroes that use the IRC often [13:11] <Sir_Polaris> dont mind the spelling errors its the old text. [13:11] <MaNu_SoLo> but IRC was never used with OFP [13:12] <Sir_Polaris> there was a IRC chan for ofp2 [13:12] <Sir_Polaris> err ofp [13:12] <Sir_Polaris> but most people used gayspy [13:12] <MaNu_SoLo> but no one used irc [13:12] <Sir_Polaris> and no one pushed it. [13:12] <Sir_Polaris> indeed [13:12] <Sir_Polaris> which is where we are. [13:12] <Sir_Polaris> What you see around you is decay. [13:12] <Sir_Polaris> When you have 50 active people, then it becomes 10 [13:12] <MaNu_SoLo> what is decay ? [13:12] the community dieing? [13:13] <MaNu_SoLo> no [13:13] <Sir_Polaris> 1 sec [13:13] <MaNu_SoLo> but it's like in a couple [13:13] <Sir_Polaris> Decay - the general sense of abandonment and lack of interest or care, and aging of that which is not updated; is the greatest threat to active communities like ours. Maintenance and vigilance is key to avoiding Decay. [13:13] oh read para 7 [13:13] <MaNu_SoLo> at the begining, everything is nice [13:13] <MaNu_SoLo> and after, less..lol [13:13] I'd have to say, Decay is a word i don't know either, due lack of English knowledge [13:13] <Sir_Polaris> Things must be kept up. [13:13] Like keeping the ball rolling [13:13] ? [13:13] decay means its getting less after time uber. [13:13] <MaNu_SoLo> rgr [13:13] <Sir_Polaris> So basicly [13:14] <Sir_Polaris> the key for us is to keep noting the existstance of things. [13:14] lol [13:14] <someguywho> keep evrything up to date
[13:14] <Sir_Polaris> I see many times posts that should be" here is a link to the video on the community page" [13:14] <Sir_Polaris> and it turns out to be "Go search" or "your a noob" [13:14] <Sir_Polaris> We should when ever possible try to promote the community services [13:14] <MaNu_SoLo> yeah, but it's representatif of real life [13:15] <Sir_Polaris> in doing so we stop decay and encourage growth. [13:15] Speaking of video.. polaris have you spoken to Shaz73? [13:15] <someguywho> anyone who is'nt yourself is an idiot [13:15] <Sir_Polaris> Yep and it looks like things are good. [13:15] Yep, we should stay more polite towards people, although it's difficult [13:15] <Sir_Polaris> Agreed [13:15] yap [13:15] mhm [13:15] <Sir_Polaris> I looked back on a few posts and slapped my self. [13:15] <Sir_Polaris> The noobcakes got to me :D [13:15] mm... noobcakes.. [13:15] <Sir_Polaris> So decay is a big thing. [13:16] I won't deny I've also been an ass sometimes, not often, but I won't deny it [13:16] <Sir_Polaris> If you look at the other images. [13:16] i could do wif sum noobcaeks [13:16] <MaNu_SoLo> but we don't have to do it, we have to be the example [13:16] and a glass of hot milk [13:16] <Sir_Polaris> I give you a second to open it. [13:16] <MaNu_SoLo> so being able to modorate our language [13:16] <MaNu_SoLo> even if noobcakes sucks :p [13:16] <Sir_Polaris> the two on the left (top bottom) [13:16] that'll be fun [13:16] <Sir_Polaris> are old Flickr (top) and Youtube [13:17] <Sir_Polaris> on the right is current [13:17] <someguywho> images? [13:17] wooh sales are up! [13:17] <Sir_Polaris> Flickr shows a month, and youtube 6mths. [13:17] <MaNu_SoLo> sorry all, I have to go. cu later, I'll always try to be in irc with you [13:17] <Sir_Polaris> rgr [13:17] <MaNu_SoLo> bye [13:17] Alright, cya:) [13:17] ok cya manusolo [13:17] c u [13:17] <Sir_Polaris> thanks for comming out :D [13:17] laters #02[13:17] * MaNu_SoLo ([email protected]) Quit (Quit: Quitte#) [13:18] <Sir_Polaris> So can see looking at the two images a general loss. [13:18] <Sir_Polaris> someguywho: see topic [13:18] Polaris can you send frantic a pm to this irc. [13:18] i forgot the password [13:18] <Marxus> unity #01[13:18] <@Sir_PolLog> sent pm [13:19] <Sir_Polaris> So the major problem is OFP is not getting to much attention. [13:19] <Sir_Polaris> and other people like Shaz and other fansites are taking attention away. #03[13:19] * frantic ([email protected]) has joined #HeroesMeeting
[13:19] <Sir_Polaris> now this is not a big issue as it grows the community. However it hinders our work. [13:19] i think we need to talk to shaz.... Gentlemen.. bring him in. [13:19] hello all, sorry im late :P [13:20] No big deal, welcome:) [13:20] spam other ofp comms with links to the codies comm:D [13:20] <Sir_Polaris> A central area makes it 100x times easier to promote our selfs/the community. [13:20] <Sir_Polaris> So its key we keep using them. [13:20] <Sir_Polaris> Link to them, talk about them [13:20] <Sir_Polaris> premote them. [13:20] <Sir_Polaris> just get it out there without spamming. [13:20] <Sir_Polaris> and if you ever need somthing done with them let me know. [13:20] hmm kinda hard 2 do.. [13:20] <someguywho> sorry Sir_Polaris i came late [13:20] <Sir_Polaris> If we can make it more community friendly they will use it more. [13:21] Any suggestions? [13:21] <Sir_Polaris> to premote more? [13:21] without spam eh? [13:21] <Sir_Polaris> just remember to do it :D and don't miss the opperuinitys [13:21] Ok [13:21] <Sir_Polaris> Well if some one does this - tell me how you respond [13:21] <Sir_Polaris> "Hey guys I just found this video " [13:22] Hey there, [13:22] <Sir_Polaris> and thats all ubermachtig posts :D [13:22] The link you've posted was posted in a earlier thread: LINK [13:22] It's nice you want to keep us updated though:) [13:22] <someguywho> You need the comunity youtube [13:22] something like that?:) [13:22] Hello there, Sorry but this video is fairly out dated. Thanks for the input though! [13:23] <someguywho> link to utube [13:23] <Sir_Polaris> Now see both ZariF|McDo and ubermachtig got the niceness part donw [13:23] <Sir_Polaris> but someguywho is getting where i'm going with this [13:23] <Sir_Polaris> Start as you did: [13:23] btw: i wasnt able to find a OFP-DR thread in the Xfire forums...has anyone made a thread there already? [13:23] he....... [13:24] <Sir_Polaris> "Hey there, It's nice you wanted to keep us in the loop however this video is old. If your finding this video is new, try checking out the master play list on the OFP2 Tube you might find somting you haven't seen. Over 31 videos now. [13:24] <Sir_Polaris> Or somthing like that. [13:24] <Sir_Polaris> You help, and then provide a service that gives benifit. [13:24] <someguywho> everyone wins [13:24] ah.. i see.. promoting the youtube channel as you give advice :) [13:25] <Sir_Polaris> if you think it's a hostile area (the kind of thread that are mine fields of flame) just talk about it quickly with no link [13:25] <Sir_Polaris> when he asks for a link your in full clear to post it and cant be taken as spam. [13:25] <Sir_Polaris> so same with photos or xfire [13:25] <Sir_Polaris> or anything [13:25] Yep, else you'll get something like "OMG, stop kissing so much polass" XD [13:25] :O
[13:25] <Sir_Polaris> Repeat Q and A - FAQ, old news - mailing list. [13:25] <Sir_Polaris> old pictures, flickr. [13:26] <Sir_Polaris> keep reminding people that old is anything but the communitys sources. [13:26] <Sir_Polaris> and we will do well. [13:26] <Sir_Polaris> THe thing is 80-90% of hits come from in post links. [13:26] <Sir_Polaris> so if the links stop in the current posts. [13:26] <someguywho> but polass is nice :P [13:26] <Sir_Polaris> the hits stop :D [13:26] lol [13:26] <Sir_Polaris> and why are hits inportant? anyone want to guess :D [13:27] it makes them feel good. [13:27] <Sir_Polaris> please don't take me as a guy that is looking to farm hits for personal gain for fame :D [13:27] <someguywho> its in the notes *gos hunting* [13:27] :) [13:27] <Sir_Polaris> someguywho: is smart little bugger [13:27] <Marxus> publicity [13:27] <Sir_Polaris> lol [13:27] brb [13:27] because if we get hits... then............ the OFPDR community becomes larger [13:27] <Sir_Polaris> Basicly that right there Marxus and that ZariF|McDo is where it leads. [13:27] and we get increased sales in all our baby clothing range [13:27] <Sir_Polaris> It shows our power and inportance. [13:27] and eventually, we'll become more popular:) [13:27] <Sir_Polaris> and without it we can do nothing. [13:28] <Sir_Polaris> Why does CM care about us and not other groups? [13:28] <Sir_Polaris> why do we have a free server? [13:28] because we're official [13:28] THEY NEED US!:D:) [13:28] <Sir_Polaris> and will have a few more. [13:28] back [13:28] <Sir_Polaris> We are not official :D [13:28] i mean.. we're the official CM forums [13:28] <Sir_Polaris> See positioning is what we call this in the markeing world :D [13:28] <someguywho> Because we're good [13:28] CM is nothing without us, and we're nothing without CM! [13:28] <Sir_Polaris> well, nothing without me :D [13:28] <Sir_Polaris> no offence :D #06[13:28] * ZariF|McDo frowns [13:29] haha #03[13:29] * ZariF|McDo is now known as ZaRiF215 [13:29] <Sir_Polaris> But up untill like 3 months ago it was a pol only show [13:29] <Marxus> i don't think they need us, we are just a small gift for them, cause as more success we have, it's advertisement for them and OFP: DR [13:29] <Sir_Polaris> there is alot of months I spent working along :D [13:29] <Marxus> --> might increase the sales [13:29] yah [13:29] True, I remember it back in the days:) [13:29] <Sir_Polaris> alone :D [13:29] <Sir_Polaris> Thats one of the drives to improve the heroes name. I want you all equal on the level I put my self.. [13:29] There was no really group then, though:) [13:29] <Sir_Polaris> indeed. [13:29] you guys really think that you are important! oO
[13:29] <Sir_Polaris> ok so we got off topic :D [13:30] oO yes. xD [13:30] Frantic, we are:D:) [13:30] <Sir_Polaris> So the message is across :D [13:30] lol [13:30] <Sir_Polaris> Try to premote without spamming. [13:30] lol [13:30] yeh [13:30] <Sir_Polaris> Get the links and messages are across and use the services to there potential [13:30] <Sir_Polaris> if there is a event - xfire caladar. [13:30] <Sir_Polaris> news, on OFP2.org, images flickr, and video tube. [13:30] <Sir_Polaris> e-mail out [13:31] <Sir_Polaris> and we are in magical land. [13:31] <Marxus> but we can't show ourself on other sites because of our content.. [13:31] the land of caladar [13:31] <Sir_Polaris> The mailing list is the onlything at this time growing. [13:31] <Sir_Polaris> We cant show our selfs on major sites. [13:31] 190 members last time I checked [13:31] <Sir_Polaris> Lawers dont lurk on fansites :D [13:31] what pictures of ourselves? lol [13:31] <Sir_Polaris> however Marxus its a good point. [13:31] <Sir_Polaris> and we talked about this earlyer and I should bring it up. [13:32] <Sir_Polaris> I'm thinking of splititng the tube, and putting all the illegal stuff on one. [13:32] <Sir_Polaris> and the legal only on another. [13:32] <Sir_Polaris> thefore we can premote one. [13:32] <Sir_Polaris> and have it feed the other. [13:32] :O cool [13:32] <Sir_Polaris> and keep one for the community, and others for mass hits. [13:32] are the official OFP-DR CM videos legal or illegal? [13:32] <Sir_Polaris> legal [13:32] i wonder.. [13:32] k [13:32] Hmm, It'll get more complicated, though [13:32] <Sir_Polaris> its the game mag ones. [13:33] like the 2 newest ones from the E3? [13:33] <Sir_Polaris> We could push CM to get permission for us. [13:33] hmm are gametrailers video's illegal to put onto youtube??? [13:33] <Sir_Polaris> Indeed frantic [13:33] roger [13:33] <Sir_Polaris> Anything thats not CM's is illegal but only if the person you robbed cares. [13:33] <Sir_Polaris> and GameStar.de cares [13:33] fuck Gamestar :D [13:33] <Sir_Polaris> and so does sony :D [13:33] haha [13:33] <Sir_Polaris> anyways we are public logs [13:33] <Sir_Polaris> so watch your voice:D [13:33] <Sir_Polaris> so. [13:33] because all the E3 video's i put up on youtube are from gametrailers and have their crappy little intro's on it [13:33] ups sorry :o [13:33] xD [13:34] i love Gamestar :) [13:34] <Sir_Polaris> that leads us to the fun part. [13:34] <someguywho> lol #06[13:34] * ZaRiF215 takes shirt off
[13:34] <Sir_Polaris> The fun part is p.. [13:34] <Sir_Polaris> *pukes [13:34] <Marxus> as pol said: the gaming mag vids and scans are, they are selling that stuff, and we steal their content to upload it on youtube. they might lose sales of their mag --> they care [13:34] party time [13:34] <someguywho> ok [13:34] <Sir_Polaris> • We need a game plan for the Blitz [13:34] Blitz? [13:34] hows that fun? :P [13:34] <Sir_Polaris> I want some speculation on things we can do leading up to, and just before the demo [13:35] Launch a OFPDR all nighter [13:35] <Sir_Polaris> Blitz is the 3 month ish marketing campaign by CM [13:35] led by the heroes [13:35] <Sir_Polaris> Note my goal is to get the Youtube group and Flickr Group full of videos. [13:35] More publick server parties [13:35] <Sir_Polaris> and some IRC release partys [13:35] they call it with the German word for lightning?!?...like Hitler has done with the BLITZkrieg?!? [13:35] pub-lick lol [13:35] lol [13:35] To make people regain the OFP feeling [13:35] <someguywho> go on a blitz as well [13:35] <Sir_Polaris> I will brb getting a pop. [13:35] lolXD [13:36] <Sir_Polaris> someguywho: we will need to escliate as CM escilates [13:36] <Sir_Polaris> Just ponder amonst your selfs creative ideas here :D [13:36] I wanted to be drunk in a bar, they THREW me, into Pub-Blick! [13:36] :P [13:36] Arrest them. [13:36] <Sir_Polaris> I want to see some ideas to get people to come with us and party and use our stuff and enpower it. [13:36] <Sir_Polaris> Like mailing the demo via the mailing list [13:36] <Sir_Polaris> "Be the first to know!" [13:36] :) [13:36] lol [13:36] <Sir_Polaris> that would get a TON of people. [13:37] what can we offer? [13:37] Be the last to know. [13:37] <Marxus> but: [13:37] <Sir_Polaris> lol [13:37] :D [13:37] <Marxus> if it reaches a ton of people [13:37] Build up loads of hype.. and then.... BANG! >>>>>>>> idea is in my next messege [13:37] <Sir_Polaris> frantic: we can offer what we can steal or make out selfs :D [13:37] <Sir_Polaris> brb [13:37] we need the quick downloadz, though [13:37] I'm almost sure CM's download server won't be that quick when everyone starts downloading [13:38] <someguywho> brb [13:38] I got to go, sry:( [13:38] <Marxus> the demo will be available all around the internet when it's released [13:38] <Sir_Polaris> back [13:38] We Unleash a hail of Beta and demo codes into the crowds as
they all clamber amongst each other to reach them [13:38] laters Kake [13:38] I would say one important thing would be to have a league ready for the release of OFP-DR...clans, squads, platoons, guilds are mainly interested in competing! [13:38] its practically a live heroes session #02[13:38] * Kakeshoma ([email protected]) Quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client#) [13:38] <Sir_Polaris> thanks for showing up kate [13:38] <Sir_Polaris> lol [13:38] frantic, I completely agree [13:38] <Sir_Polaris> Well frantic this is why I started talking to you about the subject [13:39] <Sir_Polaris> modding is also inportant and I'm working on that. [13:39] we shoulnd't just show our professionallity on the interwebz, but also in-game as pro's [13:39] xD [13:39] but we have the problem of not knowing how the gameplay will look and feel like [13:39] when people see us pwning and working like a team, they visit us and get interested into us [13:39] i'll be teh consoles legend [13:39] <Sir_Polaris> Basicly when the blitz hits, most of our time will be collecting the news and premoting our stuff. Events will renforce us in the mind of the community. [13:39] the newest video showed some really nice ingame gameplay, so i guess it will be good for PvP action [13:39] i think we all should have like a special prefix as well.. [13:39] <Sir_Polaris> Things like "join the mailing list - and know about the demo first" [13:39] in our names [13:40] <Sir_Polaris> or "Join Xfire and get ready to frag with the community" [13:40] <Sir_Polaris> Stuff like that needs to be done before the demo hits. [13:40] "Join Xfire, and get Pwned by our community members [13:40] the thing is.. [13:40] when do we roll out this push. [13:40] is there already a thread with a poll about different gametypes? [13:40] its all well making idea's but when does it start. [13:40] <Sir_Polaris> The second we catch wind of the blitz starts [13:41] Ok. [13:41] <Sir_Polaris> we work on it now, leading into then. [13:41] i'd say its kind of started.. look how much info they're releasing [13:41] as well as gameplay [13:41] <Sir_Polaris> like the slow premotion of "Hey thats nice fan art - make sure to add it to the Flickr Group: http://www.flickr.com/groups/ofp2/ " [13:41] its just because of the ARMA2 release, it will be less in 1 month [13:41] ZaRif, that's ment to keep us horny enough, I don't think it has already started yet [13:41] <Sir_Polaris> same with videos [13:42] xD [13:42] yeh [13:42] <Sir_Polaris> allright I think we all get the point :D [13:42] <Sir_Polaris> you'll have to PM and remind other heroes that where not here, as will I try to remind them. [13:42] <Sir_Polaris> It will need to be a group effort. [13:42] Who has experience in administrating a league?
[13:43] lol no one? [13:43] so im the only one? [13:43] <Marxus> looks like ^^ [13:43] <Sir_Polaris> There is a member that is currently running one, |IC|BAR [13:43] so i have to search elsewhere for help then :( [13:43] <Sir_Polaris> you should pm him. [13:43] <Sir_Polaris> So for ideas to hook people in. [13:44] <Marxus> he hasn't been on irc for ages.. [13:44] IC is a clantag? [13:44] <Sir_Polaris> Events on servers, tourniment, [13:44] <Sir_Polaris> IC is the tourniments name [13:44] <Sir_Polaris> Push the mailing list, and toolbar. [13:44] International Conflict? [13:44] i know how to make advertisement for leagues, but i dont have the time to make everything by myself [13:44] Before we start even trying to work as a team, we should specialize ourself into a role:) [13:44] <Sir_Polaris> maybe, but lets keep on topic :D [13:44] *ingame [13:45] i did it once in ArmA but i wont do that again, because at the end you are the idiot...lol [13:45] <Sir_Polaris> That will be done ubermachtig when we know who is in the heroes group. [13:45] is that individual roles polaris? [13:45] like each person has a speciality? [13:45] <Sir_Polaris> groups of 2-3 roles. [13:45] News teams etc etc? [13:45] what are you guys talking about? oO [13:45] roleplay? [13:45] <Sir_Polaris> everyone has skills and we will only function if we can get members to produce with there skills. [13:46] just watch frantic lol xD [13:46] <Sir_Polaris> Ah you missed it frantic :D [13:46] <Sir_Polaris> we had a motion not voted on but tabled for making working groups. [13:46] <Sir_Polaris> but I'm not going to act on it yet untill I know the human resouces of the OFP2 Heroes [13:46] ok, i make the league working group then :p [13:46] <Sir_Polaris> once the size cuts in 1/3 [13:47] my group is already complete with just me inside of it :( [13:47] well..... how are we going about "thinning out" the heroes? [13:47] <Sir_Polaris> I'll get to that at the end :D [13:47] rgr [13:47] <Sir_Polaris> So Blitz is very inportant. [13:47] Rgr [13:47] <Sir_Polaris> and we miss the "pre demo" htype [13:47] <Sir_Polaris> we will be huring. [13:48] Blitz is a shitty name, i dont support an action which starts with the word Blitz...:( [13:48] <Sir_Polaris> The key is will be to get people saying "hey I'm going to use this when I play the demo" [13:48] <Sir_Polaris> Blitz means fast or lighting strike. [13:48] <Sir_Polaris> Its used everywhere. [13:48] <Marxus> i might be able to help you frantic since i've a kind of experience in managing, i don't know what has to be done in such a league but we can talk about that later [13:48] yeah like BLITZKRIEG! :p [13:48] <Sir_Polaris> Dont equate it to nazi germany.
[13:48] <Sir_Polaris> lol [13:48] yeah, nice one Marxus [13:48] We where blitzkrieged in 1940XD [13:49] I'll start a blitzkrieg in OFP2 [13:49] <Sir_Polaris> So, any other ideas - we have a bleak suggestion pool here. [13:49] Marxus are you in the Xfire OFP-DR group? [13:49] <Marxus> yup [13:49] which nick? [13:49] <Sir_Polaris> How can we raise awareness and useage for the OFP2 services leading up to the demo. [13:49] <Marxus> �Marxus Rainbow� ;) [13:49] <Sir_Polaris> lol [13:49] lol [13:50] <Marxus> getting the newbies on forums to see the supersticky [13:50] Marxus are you on Xfire now? [13:50] <Marxus> i think most of the newbies don't see the supersticky [13:50] <Sir_Polaris> its true, word of mouth is the only thing that works. [13:51] <Sir_Polaris> and we will be doing it, as we made a commitment here to do so. [13:51] <Sir_Polaris> However events are powerful "us time" [13:51] <Sir_Polaris> and things like "we are the only one to do this" [13:51] <Sir_Polaris> makes us unique and intresting for a short time. [13:51] <Sir_Polaris> which can do alot to raise our baseline. [13:52] <Sir_Polaris> (baseline - the people who show up day to day, or because there is so many even if one shows up every 5 days there is another random people it stays at a number) [13:52] <Sir_Polaris> there is enough* [13:53] <Sir_Polaris> All our numbers are dropping, and I see the bltiz to be a great time to make sure we are rooted in. [13:53] tyrokiller will be here shortly [13:53] <Sir_Polaris> Perhaps there is somthing cool we can do leading into pre demo [13:53] <Sir_Polaris> like, [13:53] <Sir_Polaris> Photoshop this, or make a demo tourniment. [13:53] ooh i can kind of Ps. [13:53] <Sir_Polaris> or set up a racing subsite. [13:54] <Sir_Polaris> Ps ? [13:54] photoshop xD [13:55] Pol, do you think you can find out before the release of the Demo takes place, which game-modes will be in that demo? [13:55] because we can make a PvP Demo Cup maybe then... [13:55] <Sir_Polaris> Yes, I belive so. [13:55] woop. [13:55] <Sir_Polaris> However it would only be when the information is finalized. [13:55]