• Davealevine: Thanks to the twitterverse, @bigthink, and @ustream for helping us with our session! #iif 7 days ago from web · Reply · View Tweet
• danray: And that's that. #iif 7 days ago from TweetGrid · Reply · View Tweet
• danray: There are a lot of ways less severe than "break-up" to regulate internet companies — price ctrls, IP rights, common carriage commitment #iif 7 days ago from TweetGrid · Reply · View Tweet
• Conor_Kennedy: #IIF: Does PT straightjacket the Internet with a hyperrational, economic equation absent any account of the ineffable forces at play online? 7 days ago from TweetDeck · Reply · View Tweet
• debbierosenbaum: #iif: theme 2: subsidize internet businesses? types of businesses? subsidies for infrastructure, not superstructure. 7 days ago from web · Reply · View Tweet
• danray: TF: Who knows whether we can control the business cycle? #iif 7 days ago from TweetGrid · Reply · View Tweet
• megerman: Terry fisher about to put on tin foil hat #iif 7 days ago from twitterrific · Reply · View Tweet
• debbierosenbaum: #iif: theme 1: booms and busts and frequency. business historians notice depression every 19 years. why? sunspots? 7 days ago from web · Reply · View Tweet
• danray: Terry Fisher comes down to give some closing thoughts #iif 7 days ago from TweetGrid · Reply · View Tweet
• danray: Q: Do monopolies hold us back from developing skills to keep kids innovating 20 yrs down the road? #iif 7 days ago from TweetGrid · Reply · View Tweet
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Rafaelcorrales: Big thanks to @davealevine for asking my question to Peter Thiel. He had a great response, hoping for a more tolerant future, etc #iif 7 days ago from TweetDeck · Reply · View Tweet
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• nortonwill: To clarify, FB/Twitter are closed networks, no portability; Google more of a service because data can be easily shopped around services #iif 7 days ago from TweetDeck · Reply · View Tweet
• debbierosenbaum: RT @megerman #iif q for dave and andrew. Did you coordinate your outfits? B/c it's adorable.
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• Conor_Kennedy: #IIF: JZ: There was kind of a narrow window for the internet to come out of left field. A global network was inevitable, its nature wasn't 7 days ago from TweetDeck · Reply · View Tweet
• debbierosenbaum: RT #iif q for dave and andrew. Did you coordinate your outfits? B/c it's adorable.
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• Conor_Kennedy: #IIF: JZ: By allowing non-rational planner innovations, you allow for great disruptive innovation 7 days ago from TweetDeck · Reply · View Tweet
• Conor_Kennedy: #IIF: I hate hippies -Peter Thiel 7 days ago from TweetDeck · Reply · View Tweet
• nortonwill: Should antitrust be applied differently to services (Google) rather than networks (FB, Twitter)? More absolute network effects? #iif 7 days ago from TweetDeck · Reply · View Tweet
• megerman: #iif q for dave and andrew. Did you coordinate your outfits? B/c it's adorable 7 days ago from twitterrific · Reply · View Tweet
• big_think: Peter Thiel and Jonathan Zittrain at Harvard Law LIVE still going: http://tinyurl.com/cgule8 (expand
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• arcticpenguin: If a company is a monopoly, should it take on more responsibility, like being obliged to keep data for x yrs or deleting data of users? #iif 7 days ago from web · Reply · View Tweet
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• Conor_Kennedy: #IIF: EULA regulation? Theil: No. If enough consumers protest, the provider will change the service. (despite obvious FB counter example) 7 days ago from TweetDeck · Reply · View Tweet
• ChetanChawla: Q for JZ and PT how will the net play out in the next 2 yrs (competition wise) ? and long term if the Singularity doesn't 'happen' ? #iif 7 days ago from web · Reply · View Tweet •
danray: Q: A meta-question: Should we think about antitrust in terms of pervasiveness in user's lives rather than just the companies' sizes? #iif 7 days ago from TweetGrid · Reply · View Tweet
• Conor_Kennedy: #IIF: Ayelets ?: We're worried about Google and FB because they control our entry to the internet, not because they're rolling in dough. 7 days ago from TweetDeck · Reply · View Tweet
• debbierosenbaum: #iif Q from my dad (watching online): "am i an old fart without certain rights because i'm not on facebook?...just kidding." 7 days ago from web · Reply · View Tweet
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danray: @arcticpenguin: harnessing content in what way? #iif 7 days ago from TweetGrid · Reply · View Tweet ·
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danray: Q: Can't we just look at Facebook's community like a company town, using current law? #iif 7 days ago from TweetGrid · Reply · View Tweet
• arcticpenguin: My worries about Google's monopoly is not about their search function, but about how they're increasingly harnessing content #iif 7 days ago from web · Reply · View Tweet
• Davealevine: Rt: @danray: Anyone reading in the Twit-o-Sphere want to post a question? Just ask with the hashtag #iif 7 days ago from TwitterBerry · Reply · View Tweet
• danray: Anyone reading in the Twit-o-Sphere want to post a question? Just ask with the hashtag #iif 7 days ago from TweetGrid · Reply · View Tweet
• danray: Even monopolies (in IT) compete with one another #iif 7 days ago from TweetGrid · Reply · View Tweet
• debbierosenbaum: #iif my dad is watching my internet class live. after the microsoft joke, my dad emailed to tell me not to laugh so loud. 7 days ago from web · Reply · View Tweet
• arcticpenguin: Google, not Microsoft, is the new evil. #iif
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danray: @Zittrain answer: Generativity. Generativity generativity, generativity generativity. Generativity generativity. Generativity? ;) #iif 7 days ago from TweetGrid · Reply · View Tweet ·
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• danray: Question: How can IT companies be bad when everything FB et al. do is free? There's no discriminatory pricing... #iif 7 days ago from TweetGrid · Reply · View Tweet
• Conor_Kennedy: #IIF: There's a random number generator that decides who is going to get called on for ?s-our organizers have given us all cold call numbers 7 days ago from TweetDeck · Reply · View Tweet
• debbierosenbaum: #iif "i don't know much about antitrust. all i know is that everything microsoft does is wrong."-- Jason 7 days ago from web · Reply · View Tweet
• Conor_Kennedy: #IIF: JZ: The structure of the company matters just as much as its size in determining whether we want companies controlling our future 7 days ago from TweetDeck · Reply · View Tweet
• Conor_Kennedy: #IIF: Peter Thiel might not realize that while AT&T was more than willing to give the NSA wiretap access, Qwest Communications did not
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• danray: PT: People aren't actually making that much money from IT companies #iif 7 days ago from TweetGrid · Reply · View Tweet
• Davealevine: Why would we care if a small website caved to iran? #iif 7 days ago from TwitterBerry · Reply · View Tweet
• danray: PT: Big>Small. e.g., Facebook less likely to cave to Iran to release Iranian users' details than small site in Iran itself. (We assume) #iif 7 days ago from TweetGrid · Reply · View Tweet
• Conor_Kennedy: #IIF: Would Facebook be more likely to cave in to the iranian gov't if it were just a small website based in Iran? 7 days ago from TweetDeck · Reply · View Tweet
• debbierosenbaum: #iif "it's unclear that small is really always better than big." --PT 7 days ago from web · Reply · View Tweet
• Conor_Kennedy: #IIF: Thiel: Right, but it's better to have a tech big wig to compete for societal power with the gov'ts of the world 7 days ago from TweetDeck · Reply · View Tweet
• Conor_Kennedy: #IIF: JZ worries that the massive power which Google has might have horrible consequences: Google could stop all Google links to Pirate Bay. 7 days ago from TweetDeck · Reply · View Tweet
• debbierosenbaum: #iif @zittrain "it's not pajama time!" 7 days ago from web · Reply · View Tweet
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danray: @Zittrain: "Maybe it's not pajama time." #iif 7 days ago from TweetGrid · Reply · View Tweet ·
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• Conor_Kennedy: #IIF: Thiel: To the extent that there are going to be bailouts, they should be thrown to the tech sector, not finance (Does Google lobby?) 7 days ago from TweetDeck · Reply · View Tweet
• Conor_Kennedy: #IIF: Thiel: Whatever the answer that, it's best to give it to net companies than finance companies. 7 days ago from TweetDeck · Reply · View Tweet
• Conor_Kennedy: #IIF: JZ--If you had 50 million dollars to prime the innovation pump, is it better to give it 2google or give 1 mill to 50 small net comps. 7 days ago from TweetDeck · Reply · View Tweet
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vranieri: #iif did the tech bubble mean that risky ppl who invested in tech just become the risky ppl in finance? (@zittrain interpreting Thiel) 7 days ago from twitterrific · Reply · View Tweet
• danray: Thiel: We're dominated by finance, not tech. Hence bailout, hence thus wrong kind of risk-taking #iif 7 days ago from TweetGrid · Reply · View Tweet
• Davealevine: Watch a good ongoing debate regarding Online Monopolies between Peter Thiel and @zittrain here: http://bit.ly/nxiRD (expand
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• debbierosenbaum: #iif did the tech bubble lead to less risk taking and set us up for the housing and LBO bubbles... and their explosion? 7 days ago from web · Reply · View Tweet
• debbierosenbaum: B2B and B2C actually = back to banking and back to consulting. #iif 7 days ago from web · Reply · View Tweet
• Conor_Kennedy: #IIF: Let's think about the repercussions of the dot com bust: it shifted the US as a country to a lower risk country -Thiel 7 days ago from TweetDeck · Reply · View Tweet
• danray: Thiel: what's the correlative to "systemic risk" in in the IT sector? #iif
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• Conor_Kennedy: #IIF: What are the points of failure in capitalism?(i.e., "Efficient" supply chains that leave us SOL with one day of stock for emergencies) 7 days ago from TweetDeck · Reply · View Tweet
• danray: why no tech bailout? No failed tech company was "too big to fail" #iif 7 days ago from TweetGrid · Reply · View Tweet
• Conor_Kennedy: #IIF: Thiel: Well business doesn't have guns and gov'ts do. (Hmmm, but what if business owns gov't? OR what about Xe [blackwater]?) 7 days ago from TweetDeck · Reply · View Tweet
• Conor_Kennedy: #IIF: So why are the unintended consequences of individual actions always good, while the unintended consquences of collective action bad? 7 days ago from TweetDeck · Reply · View Tweet
• danray: Burke: you can't try to change society top-down — classic conservatism #iif 7 days ago from TweetGrid · Reply · View Tweet
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Rafaelcorrales: @davealevine thanks for posting the reminder. and remember dave posted the link to the live view as well (for those not there) #iif 7 days ago from TweetDeck · Reply · View Tweet ·
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• Conor_Kennedy: #IIF: JZ: Adam Smith->Out of entirely self-interested actions there could come an incidental but large social surplus for society at large. 7 days ago from TweetDeck · Reply · View Tweet
• Conor_Kennedy: #IIF: Zittrain-meister takes over: PT's speech was a defense of capitalism, rather than a defense of monopoly; PT "left his monacle at home" 7 days ago from TweetDeck · Reply · View Tweet
• debbierosenbaum: defense of monopolies? defense of capitalism? or defense of globalization? #iif 7 days ago from web · Reply · View Tweet
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danray: @zittrain's response: Thiel's sounded more like a defense of capitalism & globalization than of monopolies #iif 7 days ago from TweetGrid · Reply · View Tweet ·
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• Conor_Kennedy: #IIF: ICT companies are key American assets, and if we strictly regulate them, the issue will be "shifted" to other gov'ts 7 days ago from TweetDeck · Reply · View Tweet
• Conor_Kennedy: #IIF: Do you prefer Google and Facebook with your privacy rules or do you wish it to be turned over the Chinese or Iranian Gov't 7 days ago from TweetDeck · Reply · View Tweet
• Conor_Kennedy: #IIF: Thiel doesn't like Corporate Power v. US gov't power. We should broaden the frame of Corporate Power v. All US Gov'ts 7 days ago from TweetDeck · Reply · View Tweet
• Davealevine: Follow the discussion at: #iif http://tinyurl.com/bpzfxf (expand
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• Conor_Kennedy: #IIF: Thiel afraid that the gov't is going to regulate the Internet to death. 7 days ago from TweetDeck · Reply · View Tweet
• danray: We shouldn't have intervention in the 'net, but if we do, it should be massive ($100bil) #iif 7 days ago from TweetGrid · Reply · View Tweet
• Conor_Kennedy: #IIF: Regulatory responses "penalize" the system. Thiel would be happiest if the gov't neither subsidized nor regulated the net. 7 days ago from TweetDeck · Reply · View Tweet
• Conor_Kennedy: #IIF: Thiel calls for a subsidy on the level of the US Gov't's subsidy for the NASA space program 7 days ago from TweetDeck · Reply · View Tweet
• debbierosenbaum: #iif: Thiel argues: maybe we should help monopolies on the internet. it's necessary for growth and globalization. 7 days ago from web · Reply · View Tweet
• Conor_Kennedy: #IIF: If it's necessary for Globalization, we should be helping companies and make the internet far more profitable than it is 7 days ago from TweetDeck · Reply · View Tweet
• danray: Or is IT just fashion? Who cares about who's ahead right now? Facebook ≠ GM #iif 7 days ago from TweetGrid · Reply · View Tweet
• Conor_Kennedy: #IIF The world will reapproach successful Globalization--i.e. a lasting growth in productivity around the world--only through technology -PT 7 days ago from TweetDeck · Reply · View Tweet
• Conor_Kennedy: #IIF: Housing, Finance & Emerging Markets the three bubbles of the 90's: Thiel links them all to Globalization 7 days ago from TweetDeck · Reply •
danray: History is full of booms and busts due to global trade, 17th c. through today #iif 7 days ago from TweetGrid · Reply · View Tweet
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debbierosenbaum: the world isn't flat; rather it is mount everest. there is great inequality not greater equality.-- Thiel. #iif 7 days ago from web · Reply · View Tweet
• Conor_Kennedy: #IIF: Thiel starts with a strong left to Thomas Friedman: re: Globalization--> "The World is Mt. Everest" (in terms of inequality) 7 days ago from TweetDeck · Reply · View Tweet
• debbierosenbaum: #iif @zittrain FTW: "Peter [Thiel], have you ever been introduced by anyone as the person on his far left?" lulz 7 days ago from web · Reply · View Tweet
• danray: Thiel: Big question: how will globalization take place, and what that means #iif 7 days ago from TweetGrid · Reply · View Tweet
• Conor_Kennedy: #IIF I'd like to know who also knows JZ as "The Zittrain-meister" 7 days ago from TweetDeck · Reply · View Tweet
• danray: #iif Facebook, Google, Paypal, Amazon, and Skype could be called monoplies in their respective core markets 7 days ago from web · Reply · View Tweet
• zittrain: Class streaming now @ http://tinyurl.com/cgule8 (expand 7 days ago from web · Reply · View Tweet
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• debbierosenbaum: #iif andrew klabor: no one speaks with more passion about nothing. 7 days ago from web · Reply · View Tweet
• danray: #iif Getting underway with introductions of our panelists and the subject matter 7 days ago from web · Reply · View Tweet
• debbierosenbaum: how many harvard people does it take to get a webcast up? #iif 7 days ago from web · Reply · View Tweet
• Conor_Kennedy: #IIF Twittering the IIF Berkman Class Session: "Internet & Monopoly Power" A Conversation with Peter Thiel and Prof. Jonathan Zittrain 7 days ago from TweetDeck · Reply · View Tweet
• danray: #iif I'm a designated Twit for IIF class tonight, in which @zittrain debates Paypal founder Peter Thiel. Webcast: http://bit.ly/nxiRD (expand
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• Davealevine: About to begin a debate regarding Online Monopolies between Peter Thiel and @zittrain. Watch it here: http://bit.ly/nxiRD (expand 7 days ago from web · Reply · View Tweet
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• debbierosenbaum: iif class with @zittrain. trying to set up the webcast. available at: http://is.gd/sbWk (expand
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