Flat Earth Koran 10 Of 13 - Koran Science & Cosmology (part 1)

The Flat Earth Koran 10 of 13 – Koran Science & Cosmology (Part 1)

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An interpretation of the Cosmology of the Koran & a critique of Islamic Fundamentalism

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Introduction – Koran Science 1. 2. 3. 4. 5.

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In previous Presentations in this series, I have set out the evidence for the Koran assuming a Flat Earth. Such a suggestion is totally unacceptable to most Muslims. Most Muslims cannot admit to this being true as this would disprove Islam. When somebody claims that there are Scientific errors in the Koran, a common response of many Muslims is to claim that there are Scientific Miracles in the Koran which prove its Divine origin. These alleged “Scientific Miracles” or “Koran Science” are said to have Scientific fore-knowledge of modern Science which Mohammed or other early Muslims could not possibly have known without information from God. There are many dozens of supposed examples of this “Koran Science” on the Internet.(At least 80-100) Presentations 10,11 &12 in this series will limit themselves 50 claims of modern Scientific knowledge relating to Cosmology in the Koran. 24th August 2009

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Cosmology of the Koran & Hadith In the previous Presentations in this series it was suggested that the Koran and Hadith assume a Universe such as the one shown in the picture on the left. Islamic Fundamentalists would argue that this is nonsense. They claims that the Koran and Hadith are in perfect harmony with modern Science.

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Koran “Science” or alleged Scientific Miracles in the Koran

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Origins of Koran Science In 1976, this book by a Non-Muslim French Medical Doctor was published. The Book claims that the Koran, unlike The Bible is in perfect harmony with Modern Science. Furthermore, it claims that the Koran contains foreknowledge of modern Scientific discoveries made only in recent years. This, the book claims, is proof of the Korans divine Origin. 24th August 2009

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Maurice Bucaille & King Faisal In 1973, Maurice Bucaille, the Author was appointed as personal physician to King Faisal of Saudi Arabia. The King, an Islamic Fundamentalist & one of the richest men in the World was keen to use his enormous wealth in order to promote Islam. To do this, he sponsored Bucaille to write a book, reputedly for a sum of $6 Million. Using a non-Muslim as a “Front Man” was a public relations stunt designed to dishonestly give the book an image of objectivity that it would not have had if a Muslim had written it. 24th August 2009

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Wahhabism:The real source of Koran Science

In his book, Bucaille mentions Saudi Government officials & Religious Scholars who provided him with lots of assistance and information when he was writing it.These individuals appear to be the real authors of the book & Bucaille appears to be their “Front Man”. 24th August 2009

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Commission on Scientific Signs of Qur'an & Sunnah http://www.nooran.org/en/About_us.htm

This Saudi Government Organisation is the main driving force behind the promotion of alleged Scientific Miracles in the Koran. 24th August 2009

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Koran Science

In more recent years, many books by Muslims have appeared and are freely available on Islamic Websites or in PDF format for free downloading. 24th August 2009

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Harun Yahya Perhaps the most prominent proponent of Koran Science today, is the controversial Turkish writer Adnan Oktar, who uses the pen name “Harun Yahya.” Oktar uses many of the ideas of Bucaille and has added new Ones of his own. Nearly all the examples of alleged Scientific Miracles in the Koran can be traced back to either Bucaille or Oktar. 24th August 2009

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Bewley Koran This is a popular modern English translation of the Koran. However, the authors are practitioners of Sufism, which some traditional Muslims consider to be heretical. Some Muslims, especially the Saudi Arabian government, consider this translation corrupt. Harun Yahya uses this version in all of his works.

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Rashad Khalifa Koran Another significant figure in the Field of Koran Science was Rashad Khalifa who produced a popular English translation of the Koran Khalifa, proclaimed himself to be an Islamic Prophet and successor to Mohammed. He founded a group known as the Submitters. Most Muslims regarded him as a heretic who had blasphemed Islam & produced a corrupt translation of the Koran. He was murdered in 1990 by Muslim extremists.

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Websites promoting alleged Scientific Miracles found in the Koran - 1 In addition to various books, there are many websites such this one that promote “Koran Science”

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Websites promoting alleged Scientific Miracles found in the Koran - 2 This is another popular Website. These websites & many others like them recycle, discuss & promote essentially the same arguments, that can be traced back to Maurice Bucaille & Harun Yahya.

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Classification of the types of Scientific Miracles said to be found in the Koran There are perhaps about 100 – 120 different alleged Scientific Miracles in the Koran, according to Islamic Fundamentalists. They appear to fall into the categories in this chart. These Presentations will focus on the alleged relating to Astronomy, Cosmology & the Physical Sciences. 24th August 2009

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Koran Science – Alleged Scientific Miracles in the Koran The remainder of this presentation is a review of many of the most popular examples of alleged Scientific Miracles in the Koran relating to Astronomy and Cosmology.

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50 of the most popular alleged Scientific Miracles in the Koran •

This Presentation (Presentation 10 of 13) relates to the alleged Scientific Miracles concerning the Universe in General

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The next one (Presentation 11 of 13) deals with Stars, Planets and other Astronomical phenomena.

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The following one (Presentation 12 of 13) concerns the Earth and Moon.

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Claims about the Universe in general 1) The Big Bang

9) Stellar Nucleosynthesis

2) Ex-Nilho Creation

10) Theory of Relativity

3) Expansion of Universe

11) Age of Universe

4) The Big Crunch

12) E / M Spectrum

5) Nebular origin of Stars

13) Sub-Atomic Particles

6) Inter-Galactic Nebulae

14) Nuclear Fission

7) Stellar Evolution

15) Anti-Matter

8) Fusion inside Stars

16) Parallel Universes

All these things and more are supposedly referred to in the Koran, but these claims are all false, as this presentation will show. 24th August 2009

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Section 1- Islam & the Universe in general

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Claim 01- The Big Bang is described in the Koran

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Claim 01 The Big Bang "Do not the Unbelievers see that the Heavens and the Earth were joined together, then we clove them asunder and We got every living thing out of the water. Will they not then believe?" Surah 21:30 Bucaille & Harun Yahya

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Claim 01 The Big Bang 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6.

Modern Astronomy has come to the conclusion that the Universe originated in a huge explosion or “Big Bang” some 13.7 billion years ago. Many Muslims claim that this was foretold in Surah 21:30 of the Koran 1400 years ago. The Big Bang theory was only first proposed in the 1920’s and accepted since the 1960’s. Many Muslims like to claim that the Koran predicted this modern Scientific discovery over 1300 years before modern Astronomy. It is argued that such amazing Scientific foresight is nothing short of miraculous and proves that there is modern Scientific knowledge in the Koran. It is further argued that the only explanation for this is the divine origin of the Koran and the truth of the religion of Islam.

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Surah 21:30 Checking the translation 1 Pickthall “Have not those who disbelieve known that the Heavens & the Earth were of one piece, then We parted them?” Yusuf Ali “Do not the Unbelievers see that the Heavens & the Earth were joined together (as one unit of creation), before we clove them asunder?” Hilali-Khan “Have not those who disbelieve known that the Heavens & the Earth were joined together as one united piece, then We parted them? “ Shakir “Do not those who disbelieve see that the Heavens & the Earth were closed up, but We have opened them?” Sher Ali “Do not the disbelievers see that the Heavens & the Earth were a closed up-mass, then We opened them out?” Khalifa “Do the unbelievers not realize that the Heaven & the Earth used to be one solid mass that we exploded into existence?” 24th August 2009

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Surah 21:30 Checking the translation 2 Arberry “Have not the unbelievers then beheld that the Heavens and the Earth were a mass all sewn up, and then We unstitched them?” Palmer “Do not those who misbelieve see that the Heavens and the Earth were both solid, and we burst them asunder?” Rodwell “Do not the infidels see that the Heavens and the Earth were both a solid mass, and that we clave them asunder?” Sale “Do not the unbelievers therefore know, that the Heavens and the Earth were solid, and we clave the same in sunder?” Irving “Have not those who disbelieve seen how Heaven and Earth were once one solid mass which We ripped apart?“ Dawood “Are the disbelievers aware that the Heavens and the Earth were of one solid mass which we tore asunder?”

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Response to Claim 01 1.

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Surah 21:30 is very vague.If it refers to the Big Bang, how is it that Muslim Astronomers did not explicitly predict the Big Bang centuries ago? Have Muslims been incorrectly interpreting the Koran for 1400 years? Surah 21:30 implies that the Earth and the rest of the Universe are about the same age.Modern Science has calculated that the Universe is 13.7 billion years old & that the Earth is 4.6 billion years old. Earth was formed from raw materials created in stars shortly prior to its formation.The Earth was never joined with the rest of the Universe. The term “Heavens” does not refer to Outer Space. No such concept exists in the Koran. The “Heavens” refer to a place up in the Sky where God, his Angels and dead Muslims exist.

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Surah 21:30 Mohammed in the Seven Heavens

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This traditional Islamic painting shows what the term “Heavens” means in the Koran. The “Heavens” do not refer to Outer Space.

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Surah 21:30 What it really means

This is what Surah 21:30 really means.Here God lifts up the solid Sky which was previously lying on the ground. 24th August 2009

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Egyptian God Shu raises up the Sky In Egyptian Mythology, the Air God Shu raised up Nut the Sky Goddess Above Geb, the Earth God. Surah 21:30 is just another version of this Myth.

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Claim 01- Conclusion 1.

Surah 21:30 does not refer to the Big Bang. Such a belief is out of line with both traditional Islamic interpretations of the Koran and modern Science.

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Surah 21:30 is just an Islamic version of a popular Creation Myth about the separation of the Earth and Sky that was widespread in the Ancient Middle East.

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Far from proving that the Koran is in harmony with modern Science, this verse shows exactly the opposite. That is to say that much of the Koran is just a collection of myths.

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Claim 02 – Ex-Nilho Creation is described in the Koran

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Claim 02 Ex-Nilho creation “ Creator of the Heavens & the Earth from nothingness, He has only to say when He wills a thing, “Be” & it is.” Surah 2:117 “He created the Heavens and the Earth from nothing.” Surah 6:101 Harun Yahya

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Claim 02 Ex Nilho Creation 1.

Modern Astronomy believes that the Universe came into being from nothing at the Big Bang. Many Creation stories begin with pre-existing material.

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It is claimed that Surah 2:117 & Surah 6:101 agree with modern science and are 1400 years ahead of their time.

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This is said to indicate scientific foreknowledge and therefore divine authorship for the Koran & the truth of Islam.

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Surah 2:117 Checking the translation 1 Pickthall “The Originator of the Heavens and the Earth! When He decreeth a thing, He saith unto it only: Be! and it is.” Yusuf Ali “To Him is due the primal origin of the Heavens and the Earth: When He decreeth a matter, He saith to it: "Be," and it is.” Hilali-Khan “The Originator of the Heavens and the Earth. When He decrees a matter, He only says to it : "Be!" - and it is.” Shakir “Wonderful Originator of the Heavens and the Earth, and when He decrees an affair, He only says to it, Be, so there it is”. Sher Ali “He is the Originator of the Heavens and the Earth. When He decrees a thing, He only says to it `Be,' and it is.” Khalifa “The Initiator of the Heavens and the Earth: to have anything done, He simply says to it, "Be," and it is.”

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Surah 2:117 Checking the translation 2 Arberry “The Creator of the Heavens and the Earth; and when He decrees a thing, He but says to it 'Be,' and it is.” Palmer “The Originator of the Heavens and the Earth, when He decrees a matter He doth but say unto it, 'Be,' and it is.” Rodwell “Sole maker of the Heavens and of the Earth! And when He decreeth a thing, He only saith to it, "Be," and it is.” Sale “The creator of Heaven and Earth; and when he decreeth a thing, he only saith unto it, be, and it is.” Irving “Devisor of Heaven and Earth, whenever He decrees so affair, He merely tells it: "Be!" and it is.” Dawood “Creator of the Heavens and the Earth! When he decrees a thing, he need only say “Be” and it is.”

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Surah 6:101 Checking the translation 1 Pickthall “The Originator of the Heavens and the Earth! How can He have a child, when there is for Him no consort, when He created all things and is Aware of all things?” Yusuf Ali “To Him is due the primal origin of the Heavens and the Earth: How can He have a son when He hath no consort? He created all things, and He hath full knowledge of all things.” Hilali-Khan “He is the Originator of the Heavens and the Earth. How can He have children when He has no wife? He created all things and He is Shakir “Wonderful Originator of the Heavens and the Earth! How could He have a son when He has no consort, and He (Himself) created everything, and He is the Knower of all things.” Sher Ali “The Originator of the Heavens and the Earth. How can He have a son when He has no consort, and when He has created everything and has knowledge of all things?” 24th August 2009

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Surah 6:101 Checking the translation 2 Arberry “The Creator of the Heavens and the Earth -- how should He have a son, seeing that He has no consort, and He created all things, and He has knowledge of everything?” Palmer “The inventor of the Heavens and the Earth! how can He have a son, when He has no female companion, and when He has created everything, and everything He knows?” Rodwell “Sole maker of the Heavens and of the Earth! how, when He hath no consort, should He have a son? He hath created everything, and He knoweth everything!” Sale “[He is] the maker of Heaven and Earth: How should he have issue since he hath no consort? He hath created all things, and he is omniscient.” Irving “Deviser of Heaven and Earth! How can He save a son while He has no consort? He created everything and is aware of everything!” Dawood “Creator of the Heavens and the Earth.How can he have a son when he has no consort? He is creator of all things and he has knowledge of all things.” 24th August 2009

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Response to Claim 02 1. 2.

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Even if the Koran is speaking of Ex-Nilho creation, this is not an original idea. Over 500 years before the birth of Mohammed, the Jewish Philosopher Philo of Alexandria (20BC – 50AD) discussed this idea. Centuries earlier in the C8th BC, the Greek Poet Hesiod also discussed this concept. When we check the Hadith however, there is some doubt about God creating the Universe Ex-Nilho.

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Ex Nilho Creation an old idea Centuries before Mohammed, the Greek the Jewish Philosopher Philo of Alexandria (top) & the Greek Poet Hesiod (bottom)and had discussed the concept of creation Ex-Nilho. There is some doubt if this is how Creation is described in the Koran.

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Creation according to the Hadith - God above the Cosmic Ocean Al-Bukhari Volume 4, Book 54, Number 414: Narrated Imran bin Husain: I went to the Prophet and tied my she-camel at the gate.….. Then some Yemenites came to him and he said, "Accept the good tidings, O people of Yemen, for Bani Tamim refused them." They said, "We accept it, O Allah's Apostle! We have come to ask you about this matter (i.e. the start of creations)." He said, "First of all, there was nothing but Allah, and (then He created His Throne). His throne was over the water, and He wrote everything in the Book (in the Heaven) and created the Heavens and the Earth." Then a man shouted, "O Ibn Husain! Your she-camel has gone away!" So, I went away and could not see the she-camel because of the mirage. By Allah, I wished I had left that she-camel (but not that gathering). 24th August 2009

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God on his throne above the waters before Creation according to the Hadith God on his throne above the waters of the waters or infinite Cosmic ocean in which the Universe of the Koran sits.

Cosmic Ocean

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Claim 02- Conclusion 1.

The Koran is vague about the details of how God created the Universe.It is uncertain if Creation was Ex-Nilho o using pre-existing material.

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Even if Creation was Ex-Nilho, there is nothing remarkable about this idea being known in the C7th AD.

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The Hadith suggests that a vast Ocean existed prior to Creation.This idea is found in Ancient Mesopotamian Cosmology. God may well have created the Universe from the Ocean using water or mud from the Ocean bed as raw material.

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Claim 03 – The Expansion of the Universe is described in the Koran

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Claim 03 Expansion of the Universe 1 This is said to be a reference to the expansion of the Universe 1400 years ago.

"The Heaven, We have built it with power. Verily. We are expanding it." Surah 51:47 Bucaille/Harun Yahya

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Claim 03 Expansion of the Universe 2 The word “confines” is said to refer to the increasing size of the Universe throughout its History. “Company of jinn and men, if you are able to pierce through the confines of the Heavens and Earth, pierce through them. You will not pierce through except with a clear authority.” Surah 55:33 Harun Yahya 24th August 2009

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Surah 51:47- 48 Checking the translation 1 Pickthall “We have built the Heaven with might, and we it is Who make the vast extent (thereof) & the Earth have we laid out, how gracious is the Spreader (thereof)!” Yusuf Ali “With power and skill did we construct the Firmament: for it is we Who create the vastness of pace & we have spread out the (spacious) Earth: How excellently we do spread out!” Hilali Khan “With power did we construct the Heaven. Verily, we are able to extend the vastness of space thereof & we have spread out the Earth, how excellent spreader (thereof) are we!” Shakir “& the Heaven, we raised it high with power, & most surely we are the makers of things ample & the Earth, we have made it a wide extent; how well have we then spread (it) out.”

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Surah 51:47- 48 Checking the translation 2 Sher Ali “& we have built the Heavens with our own hands, &, verily, we have vast powers & the Earth we have spread out,& how excellently do we spread it out!” Khalifa “We constructed the Sky with our hands, & we will continue to expand it. And we made the Earth habitable; a perfect design.” Arberry “And Heaven -- We built it with might, and we extend it wide. And the Earth -- We spread it forth; O excellent smoothers!” Palmer “And the Heaven - we have built it with might, and, verily, we do surely give it ample space! And the Earth - we have spread it out; and how well we lay it out! “

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Surah 51:47- 48 Checking the translation 3 Rodwell “And the Heaven - with our hands have we built it up, and given it its expanse; and the Earth - we have stretched it out like a carpet; and how smoothly have we spread it forth! Sale “We have built the Heaven with might; and we have given [it] a large extent and we have stretched forth the Earth beneath; and how evenly have we spread [the same]! Irving “The Sky we have built firmly and we are extending it. The Earth have we spread out; how blissful is the one who has smoothed it off! Dawood “We built the Heaven with our might; giving it a vast expanse and stretched out the Earth beneath it.Gracious is he who spread it out.”

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Surah 55:33 Checking the translation 1 Pickthall “O company of jinn & men, if ye have power to penetrate (all) regions of the Heavens & the Earth, then penetrate (them)! Ye will never penetrate them save with (our) sanction.” Yusuf Ali “O ye assembly of Jinns & men! If it be ye can pass beyond the zones of the Heavens & the Earth, pass ye! not without authority shall ye be able to pass!” Hilali-Khan “O assembly of jinn's & men! If you have power to pass beyond the zones of the Heavens & the Earth, then pass (them)! But you will never be able to pass them, except with authority (from Allah)!” Shakir ”O assembly of the jinn & the men! If you are able to pass through the regions of the Heavens & the Earth, then pass through; you cannot pass through but with authority.”

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Surah 55:33 Checking the translation 2 Sher Ali “O company of jinn & men! if you have power to break through the confines of the Heavens & the Earth, then break through them. But you cannot break through save with authority.“ Khalifa “O you jinn's & humans, if you can penetrate the outer limits of the Heavens & the Earth, go ahead & penetrate. You cannot penetrate without authorization.” Arberry “O tribe of jinn and of men, if you are able to pass through the confines of Heaven and Earth, pass through them! You shall not pass through except with an authority.” Palmer “O assembly of ginns and mankind! if ye are able to pass through the confines of Heaven and Earth then pass through them!ye cannot pass through save by authority! “

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Surah 55:33 Checking the translation 3 Rodwell “O company of djinn and men, if ye can overpass the bounds of the Heavens and the Earth, then overpass them. But by our leave only shall ye overpass them.“ Sale “O ye collective body of genii and men, if ye be able to pass out of the confines of Heaven and Earth, pass forth: Ye shall not pass forth but by absolute power.” Irving “0 company of sprites and humankind,if you can manage to penetrate beyond the realms of Heaven and Earth and then pass beyond them! Yet you will only penetrate them through some authority. Dawood “Mankind and jinn, if you have the power to penetrate the confines of Heaven and Earth, then penetrate them! But this you shall not do except with our own authority.”

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Response to Claim 03 1. 2.

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Surah 51:47 & Surah 55:33 are very vague and neither mentions the expansion of space.Only the Rashad Khalifa translation comes close, but the other 11 translations contradict him. The translation of Surah 51:47 that is said to describe the expansion of the Universe is not accurate.It appears to be a deliberate alteration of the words of the Koran. Altering the words of the Koran is a serious sin in Islam. All Surah 51:47 is saying is that the Universe is very large.There is nothing remarkable about such a statement. Anyone can see that it is true. Surah 51:48 describes the Earth as being “spread out” implying that it is flat. Surah 55:33 is a challenge to Humanity and the Jinn to climb up to Heaven if they can.This implies that Heaven is a place up in the Sky.This verse says nothing about an expanding Universe.

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Surah 51:47- 48 The Koran describes the Earth as being spread out like a Carpet Carpets are always Flat when they are spread out.

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Surah 51:47- 48 Earth shown spread out like a flat Carpet

Wide expanse of the Earth

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Surah 51:47- 48 The Earth is described as a being “spread out” in the Koran God is described as spreading out the Earth while creating it. Likewise a baker spreads out dough by flattening it. This may be what the Koran means 24th August 2009

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Surah 51:47- 48 “Spreading out” the Earth? This dough has been spread out into a flat shape. The Koran may be describing God spreading out the Earth into a flat shape in a similar manner.

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Claim 03- Conclusion 1.

There are no explicit references to an expanding Universe in the Koran.

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Claims to the contrary are dishonest and based on deliberately altering the words of the Koran. This is forbidden in Islam.

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All that the verses in question say is that the Universe is very big.

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In fact, some translations of Surah 51:47-48 describe the Earth as “wide”, “spread out” or like a “carpet.” This implies that the Earth is flat.

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Claim 04 – The Big Crunch is described in the Koran

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Claim 04 The Big Crunch The Big Crunch is like the Big Bang, only in reverse. Some Scientists have suggested that eventually, the expansion of the Universe will cease and then reverse. Some Muslims claims that this is referred to in the Koran thus proving its divine origin & the truth of Islam.

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Claim 04 The Big Crunch “That day we will fold up Heaven like folding up the pages of a book. As we originated the first creation so we will regenerate it. It is a promise binding on us. That is what we will do.” Surah 21:104 Harun Yahya “They do not measure Allah with his true measure. The whole Earth will be a mere handful for him on the day of resurrection the Heavens folded up in his right hand. Glory be to him! He is exalted above the partners they ascribe!” Surah 39:67 Harun Yahya

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Surah 21:104 Checking the translation 1 Pickthall “The Day when we shall roll up the Heavens as a recorder rolleth up a written scroll.” Yusuf Ali “The Day that we roll up the Heavens like a scroll rolled up for books. (completed” Hilali-Khan “And (remember) the Day when we shall roll up the Heavens like a scroll rolled up for books.” Shakir “On the day when we will roll up Heaven like the rolling up of the scroll for writings.” Sher Ali “The day when we shall roll up the Heavens like the rolling up of written scrolls by a scribe.” Khalifa “On that day, we will fold the Heaven, like the folding of a book.”

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Surah 21:104 Checking the translation 2 Arberry “On the day when we shall roll up Heaven as a scroll is rolled for the writings.” Palmer “The day when we will roll up the Heavens as es-Sigill rolls up the books.” Rodwell “On that day we will roll up the Heaven as one rolleth up written scrolls.” Sale “On [that] day we will roll up the Heavens, as [the angel] al Sijil rolleth up the book [wherein every man's actions are recorded].” Irving “[It will be] a day when We shall roll up the Sky just as a scroll for books is rolled up.” Dawood “On that day we will roll up the Heaven like a roll of parchment”

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Surah 39:67 Checking the translation 1 Pickthall “When the whole Earth is His handful on the day of resurrection, and the Heavens are rolled in his right hand.” Yusuf Ali “On the day of judgment the whole of the Earth will be but his handful, and the Heavens will be rolled up in his right hand.” Hilali-Khan “And on the day of resurrection the whole of the Earth will be grasped by his hand and the Heavens will be rolled up in his right hand. Shakir “And the whole Earth shall be in his grip on the day of resurrection and the Heavens rolled up in his right hand.” Sher Ali “And the entire Earth will be under his complete control on the day of resurrection, and the Heavens rolled up in hid right hand.” Khalifa “The whole Earth is within his fist on the day of resurrection. In fact, the Universes are folded within his right hand.” Notice how Khalifa has distorted the meaning of the text & how he is out of step with the other eleven translations. 24th August 2009

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Surah 39:67 Checking the translation 2 Arberry “The Earth altogether shall be His handful on the day of resurrection, and the Heavens shall be rolled up in his right hand. “ Palmer “While the Earth all of it is but a handful for him on the resurrection day, and the Heavens shall be rolled up in his right hand!” Rodwell “For on the resurrection day the whole Earth shall be but his handful, and in his right hand shall the Heavens be folded together.” Sale “Since the whole Earth [shall be but] his handful, on the day of resurrection; and the Heavens [shall be] rolled together in his right hand.” Irving “The whole Earth will lie within his grasp on resurrection day, while Heaven will be folded up in his right hand. Glory be to him.” Dawood “But on the day of resurrection he will hold the entire Earth in his grasp and fold up the Heavens in his right hand.” 24th August 2009

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Response to Claim 04 •

Surah 21:104 & Surah 39:67 make no reference to countless Galaxies of Stars falling in on each other over billions of years as envisaged in the Big Crunch.

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What is really being described is God rolling up the solid Sky Dome over the Flat Earth.If the Sky can be rolled up or folded like a scroll then it must be solid.

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The Koran is describing Judgement day and not the Big Crunch.The Big Crunch if it happens will be tens of billions of years in the future. Islam has never taught that Judgement Day is so far away.

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Surah 39:67/ 21:104 Solid Sky rolled up What these verses are referring to is the Sky being rolled up on Judgement Day. This suggests a belief that the Sky was solid.

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Claim 04 - Conclusion 1.

The Koran does not refer to the Big Crunch, but rather to Judgement Day and the Solid Sky Dome being rolled up.

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How come, Muslims did not realise this centuries ago?Have they been misinterpreting the Koran?

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The belief that the Koran describes the Big Crunch is just wishful thinking

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These verses actually show how primitive and backward the Cosmology of the Koran is.Rather than proving the Koran to be in harmony with Science, they demonstrate the opposite.

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Claim 05 – The formation of Galaxies & the Solar System is described in the Koran

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Claim 05 Formation of Galaxies and the Solar System Then turned He to the Heaven when it was smoke, and said unto it and unto the Earth: Come both of you, willingly or loth. They said: We come, obedient. Surah 41:11 Bucaille & Harun Yahya

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Claim 05 Formation of Galaxies and the Solar System 1.

Modern Astronomy believes that the Galaxies and Star Systems with Planets within them formed from huge clouds of Gas or Nebulae.This idea was first proposed only 250 years ago by Kant & Laplace.

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It is claimed that Surah 41:11 agree with modern Science and is over 1000 years ahead of its time.

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This is said to indicate scientific foreknowledge and therefore divine authorship for the Koran & the truth of Islam.

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Surah 41:11 Checking the translation 1 Pickthall “Then turned He to the Heaven when it was smoke, and said unto it and unto the Earth: Come both of you, willingly or loth. They said: We come, obedient.” Yusuf Ali “Moreover He comprehended in His design the Sky, and it had been (as) smoke: He said to it and to the Earth: "Come ye together, willingly or unwillingly." They said: "We do come (together), in willing obedience." Hilali-Khan “Then He Istawa (rose over) towards the Heaven when it was smoke, and said to it and to the Earth: "Come both of you willingly or unwillingly." They both said: "We come, willingly." Shakir “Then He directed Himself to the Heaven and it is a vapor, so He said to it and to the Earth: Come both, willingly or unwillingly. They both said: We come willingly.”

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Surah 41:11 Checking the translation 2 Sher Ali “Then he turned to the Heaven, while it was something like smoke, and said to it and to the Earth; `Come ye both of you in obedience, willingly or unwillingly.' They said, `We come willingly.‘” Khalifa “Then he turned to the Sky, when it was still gas, and said to it, and to the Earth, "Come into existence, willingly or unwillingly.“” They said, "We come willingly." Arberry “Then he lifted himself to Heaven when it was smoke, and said to it and to the Earth, "Come willingly, or unwillingly!" They said, "We come willingly." “ Palmer “Then he made for the Heaven and it was but smoke, and he said to it and to the Earth, 'Come, ye two, whether ye will or no!' They said, 'We come willingly!'“

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Surah 41:11 Checking the translation 3 Rodwell “Then he applied himself to the Heaven, which then was but smoke: and to it and to the Earth he said, "Come ye, whether in obedience or against your will?" and they both said, "We come obedient." Sale “Then he set his mind to [the creation of] Heaven; and it was smoke: And he said unto it, and to the Earth, come, either obediently, or against your will. They answered, we come, obedient [to thy command]. Irving “Then he soared up to Heaven while it was still a haze, and told both it and the Earth: "Come, either obediently or reluctantly." They both said: "We shall come willingly!" Dawood “Then turning to the Sky, which was but a cloud of vapour, he said to it and the Earth “Come forward both, either willingly or perforce.””We will come willingly” they answered.” 24th August 2009

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Response to Claim 05 1. 2.

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Surah 41:11 not describe the condensation of Galaxies and Star Systems.There are no references to any such bodies. The Galaxies and their Stars condensed from Hydrogen and Helium gas which is nothing like smoke.Smoke is the product of Carbon burning in oxygen. There is no smoke in Outer Space. Neither Carbon, Oxygen or any elements other than Hydrogen and Helium were present at the start of the Universe. The sequence of events is all wrong.Surah 41 says that God created the Earth first and then the Sky.Modern Science says that the Earth formed after the Galaxy and most of its stars. This claim is distorting the meaning of the Koran and taking Surah 41:11 out of context.(See next slide)

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Surah 41:9-12 (Pickthall) “Say (O Muhammad, unto the idolaters): Disbelieve ye verily in Him Who created the Earth in two Days, and ascribe ye unto Him rivals? He (and none else) is the Lord of the Worlds. He placed therein firm hills rising above it, and blessed it and measured therein its sustenance in four Days, alike for (all) who ask; Then turned He to the Heaven when it was smoke, and said unto it and unto the Earth: Come both of you, willingly or loth. They said: We come, obedient. Then He ordained them seven Heavens in two Days and inspired in each heaven its mandate; and We decked the nether heaven with lamps, and rendered it inviolable. That is the measuring of the Mighty, the Knower.” The Koran says that the Earth was created at the same time or possibly before the rest of the Universe.Modern Science says that the opposite is true. 24th August 2009

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Claim 05 - Conclusion 1.

The Koran does not describe the formation of Galaxies or Star Systems.Such concepts are not in the Koran

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The order of Creation in the Koran is the opposite to that of Modern Science.

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Hydrogen and Helium look nothing like smoke.

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These verses actually show how primitive and backward the Cosmology of the Koran is.Rather than proving the Koran to be in harmony with Science, they demonstrate the opposite.

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Claim 06 – The existence of Inter-Galactic Nebulae is described in the Koran

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Claim 06 Inter-Galactic Nebulae

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Claim 06 Inter-Galactic Nebulae 1.

Modern Astronomical Observations in recent years have discovered immense clouds of Gas between the 1000 Trillion Galaxies in the known Universe.

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Some Muslims claims that these were referred to in the Koran 1400 years ago when it mentions things that are between Heaven and Earth.

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This apparent Scientific foresight is said to be proof of the Korans divine authorship and proof that Islam is the only true Religion.

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Surah 25:59 Checking the translation 1 Pickthall “Who created the Heavens & the Earth & all that is between them in six days, then He mounted the throne. The beneficent! Ask anyone informed concerning him!” Yusuf Ali “He who created the Heavens & the Earth & all that is between, in six days, and is firmly established on the throne (of authority): God most gracious: ask thou, then, about him of any acquainted (with such things).” Hilali-Khan “Who created the Heavens & the Earth & all that is between them in six days. Then he Istawa (rose over) the throne (in a manner that suits his majesty). The most beneficent (Allah)! Ask Him (O Prophet Muhammad SAW), (concerning his qualities, his rising over his throne, his creations, etc.), as he is al-khabir (The all-knower of everything i.e. Allah).” Shakir “Who created the Heavens & the Earth & what is between them in six periods, and he is firmly established on the throne of authority; the beneficent God, so ask respecting it one aware.” 24th August 2009

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Surah 25:59 Checking the translation 2 Sher Ali “He who created the Heavens and the Earth and all that is between them in six periods, then he settled himself firmly on the throne - the gracious, God! Ask thou then concerning him one who knows.” Khalifa “He is the one who created the Heavens and the Earth, and everything between them, in six days, then assumed all authority. the most gracious; ask about him those who are well founded in knowledge.” Arberry “Who created the Heavens and the Earth, and what between them is, in six days, then sat himself upon the throne, the allcompassionate: ask any informed of Him!” Palmer “He who created the Heavens and the Earth, and what is between them, in six days, and then made for the throne; the merciful one, ask concerning him of one who is aware.” 24th August 2009

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Surah 25:59 Checking the translation 3 Rodwell “Who in six days created the Heavens and the Earth, and whatever is between them, then mounted his Throne: the God of mercy! Ask now of the Wise concerning Him.” Sale “Who hath created the Heavens and the Earth, and whatever is between them, in six days; and then ascended [his] throne; the merciful. Ask now the knowing concerning him”. Irving “He is the one who created Heaven and Earth as well as whatever lies in between them, in six days. Then the mercy-giving mounted on the throne. Ask any informed (person) about Him." Dawood “In six days, he created the Heaven and the Earth and all that lies between them, and then ascended the throne. Ask those who know concerning him.

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Response to Claim 06 1.

Surah 25:59 makes no reference to Galaxies or Nebulae between them.No such concepts exist in the Koran.

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This interpretation is making the unwarranted assumption that the Universe of the Koran is the same as the Universe of Modern Astronomy.

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The Universe of the Koran is not the modern Universe.The Koran repeatedly describes a Tri-Partite Universe totally Alien to modern Science.

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Koran Container Universe 1 3 Flat Earth 2 Hell

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Claim 06 - Conclusion 1.

The Koran does not describe Inter-Galactic Nebulae.Such concepts are not in the Koran

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The Universe of the Koran consists of three parts, Firstly Heaven, secondly Earth and thirdly what is between them.

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The thing between Heaven (the Sky Dome) and the (Flat) Earth is nothing more that the air above us and things such as clouds and birds that are within it.

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Claim 07 - Stellar Evolution is described in the Koran

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Claim 07 Stellar Evolution "(God) subjected the sun and the moon: each one runs its course to an appointed term." Surah 13:2 Bucaille Also Surah 31:29 , Surah 35;13 & Surah 39:5

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Claim 07 Stellar Evolution “When the sun is rounded (swelling like a ball)" "When the stars have collapsed" "When the oceans boil over in a swell" Surah 81:1,2,6 http://www.submission.org/universe.html

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Claim 07 Stellar Evolution 1. 2.

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Modern Astronomy has discovered that all starts have life cycles and that they go through stages over millions or billions of years and then they die. Some Muslims claims that this referred to in the Koran 1400 years ago when it mentions the Sun running for an appointed term.This appointed term is said to refer to the Sun burning for 10 billions years and then dying.(Surah 13:2 ) Before its death billions of years in the future, the Sun will swell up in Size and become a Red Giant Star which will destroy the Earth.This is also said to be referred to in the Koran. (Surah 81:6 ) This apparent Scientific foresight is said to be proof of the Korans divine authorship and proof that Islam is the only true Religion.

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Surah 13:2 Checking the translation 1 Pickthall “Allah … compelled the Sun & the Moon to be of service, each runneth unto an appointed term; He ordereth the course; He detaileth the revelations, that haply ye may be certain of the meeting with your lord.” Yusuf Ali “God … has subjected the Sun & the Moon (to his law)! Each one runs (its course) for a term appointed. He doth regulate all affairs, explaining the signs in detail, that ye may believe with certainty in the meeting with your Lord”. Hilali-Khan “Allah … has subjected the Sun & the Moon (to continue going round)! Each running (its course) for a term appointed. He regulates all affairs, explaining the ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) in detail, that you may believe with certainty in the meeting with your Lord.” Shakir “Allah … made the Sun & the Moon subservient (to you); each one pursues its course to an appointed time; He regulates the affair, making clear the signs that you may be certain of meeting your Lord.” 24th August 2009

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Surah 13:2 Checking the translation 2 Sher Ali “Allah … pressed the Sun and the Moon into your service; each planet pursues its course until an appointed term. He regulates all affairs and he clearly explains the signs that you may have firm belief in the meeting with your lord.” Khalifa “God … he committed the Sun and the Moon, each running (in its orbit) for a predetermined period. He controls all things, and explains the revelations, that you may attain certainty about meeting your lord.” Arberry “God … subjected the Sun and the Moon, each one running to a term stated. He directs the affair; He distinguishes the signs; haply you will have faith in the encounter with your lord.” Palmer “God … subjected the Sun and the Moon; each one runs on to a stated and appointed time; He governs the affair, details the signs;- haply of the meeting with your lord ye will be sure.”

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Surah 13:2 Checking the translation 3 Rodwell “It is God who … imposed laws on the Sun and Moon: each travelleth to its appointed goal. He ordereth all things. He maketh his signs clear, that ye may have firm faith in a meeting with your lord.” Sale “[It is] God who … compelled the Sun and the Moon to perform their services: Every [of the heavenly bodies] runneth an appointed course. He ordereth [all] things. He sheweth [his] signs distinctly, that ye may be assured ye must meet your Lord [at the last day].” Irving “God … regulated the Sun and Moon; each runs along on a specific course. He directs the matter; He manifests signs so that you may be convinced about meeting your Lord. Dawood “God … pressed the Sun & Moon into his service, each pursuing an appointed coarse.He ordains all things.He makes plain his revelations so that you might firmly believe in meting your lord.”

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Before Copernicus everyone believed in a Geocentric Universe Nowadays, we know that the Earth is one of several Planets in orbit around the Sun. This idea was first proposed by Copernicus in 1543.Before that everyone thought that the Sun & other Heavenly bodies were just little lights that moved across the Sky over a stationary Earth at the centre of the Universe. It is important to remember this When reading Astronomical References in books from before 1543. (Such as the Bible or Koran)

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Response to Claim 07 (Surah 13:2 ) 1.

Surah 13:2 makes no reference to Stellar Evolution.The “appointed terms” of the Sun and Moon are merely the hours of day and night. They are not a period of billions of years.

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The Koran, like other books from before 1543 assumes a Geocentric Cosmology with the Sun and Moon moving around a stationary Earth every 24 hours.

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Surah 81:1,2,6 Checking the translation 1 Pickthall “When the Sun is overthrown, and when the Stars fall, And Yusuf Ali “When the Sun (with its spacious light) is folded up; When the Stars fall, losing their lustre; When the oceans boil over with a swell.” Hilali-Khan “When the Sun Kuwwirat (wound round and lost its light and is overthrown). when the Stars shall fall; And when the seas shall become as blazing Fire or shall overflow.” Shakir “When the sun is covered, and when the Stars darken, and when the seas are set on fire.” Sher Ali “When the Sun is folded up, and when the Stars are obscured, and when the rivers are drained away.” Khalifa “When the Sun is rolled. The Stars are crashed into each other. The oceans are set aflame.”

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Surah 81:1,2,6 Checking the translation 2 Arberry “When the Sun shall be darkened, when the Stars shall be thrown down, when the seas shall be set boiling.” Palmer “When the Sun is folded up, and when the Stars do fall, And when the seas shall surge up.” Rodwell “When the Sun shall be folded up, and when the Stars shall fall, And when the seas shall boil.” Sale “When the Sun shall be folded up; and when the Stars shall fall; and when the seas shall boil.” Irving “When the sun has been extinguished,when the stars slip out of place, when the seas overflow.” Dawood “When the Sun ceases to shine, when the Stars fall, when the seas are set alight.”

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Response to Claim 07 (Surah 81:1,2,6 ) 1.

Surah 81 makes no reference to the Sun swelling up.In fact, it refers to the Sun being extinguished.

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These verses refer to Judgement Day and not an event billions of years away.The timescale is all wrong.

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Stars are describes as little objects that can fall to Earth. This demonstrates a complete ignorance of the true nature of Stars.

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The boiling of the Oceans cannot be due to the heat of the Sun since it has gone out.Verse 12 implies that it is the heat of Hell below that is causing the Oceans to boil, rather than the Sun.

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Surah 86:1 Snowball Earth According to Surah 81:1-2 on Judgement Day, the Sun will lose its light without any detrimental effects on Earth. If such a thing happened, the lack of heat would lead to a rapid cooling of the Earth and a sudden Global Ice Age destroying all life.

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Surah 37:6 Stars attached to firmament According to the Koran, the Stars are just little lights attached to the solid Sky. Surah 81:1-2 says that the Stars will eventually fall to the ground.

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Surah 37:6 Stars embedded in Firmament Pickthall “Lo! We have adorned the lowest Heaven with an ornament, the planets.” Yusuf Ali “We have indeed decked the lower Heaven with beauty (in) the stars.” Hilali-Khan “Verily! We have adorned the near Heaven with the stars (for beauty).” Shakir “Surely We have adorned the nearest Heaven with an adornment, the stars.” Sher Ali “We have adorned the lowest Heaven with an adornment the Khalifa “We have adorned the lowest Heaven with adorning planets.”

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Surah 37:6 Continued Arberry “We have adorned the lower Heaven with the adornment of the Stars.” Palmer “Verily, we have adorned the lower Heaven with the adornment of the Stars.” Rodwell “We have adorned the lower Heaven with the adornment of the Stars.” Sale “We have adorned the lower Heaven with the ornament of the Stars.” Irving “We have beautified the worldly Sky with the splendour of Stars .” Dawood “We have decked the lower Heaven with Constellations.”

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Claim 07 - Conclusion 1. 2. 3. 4. 5.

Neither Surah 13:2 or Surah 81:1,2,6 describe the evolution or death of the Sun – At least not if you use accurate translations and read them in historical context. Surah 13:2 means the hours of day and night when it refers to the “appointed terms” of the Sun and Moon and not billions of years. Surah 81:1,2,6 describes Judgement Day and the Sun being extinguished without any detrimental effects on Earth.This shows a complete ignorance of modern Science. Surah 81:1,2,6 describes the Sun and Stars as little lights of minor importance. There is no indication of how big and important these heavenly bodies really are. Rather than proving the Koran to be in harmony with Science, these verses demonstrates the opposite.

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Claim 08 - Thermonuclear Fusion inside Stars is described in the Koran

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Claim 08 Thermonuclear Fusion “Allah is the light of the Heavens and the Earth. The metaphor of his light is that of a niche in which is a lamp, the lamp inside a glass, the glass like a brilliant star, lit from a blessed tree, an olive, neither of the east nor of the west, its oil all but giving off light even if no fire touches it. Light upon light. Allah guides to His Light whoever He wills and Allah makes metaphors for mankind & Allah has knowledge of all things.”

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Surah 24:35 Checking the context “Allah is the Light of the Heavens & the Earth. The similitude of His light is as a niche wherein is a lamp. The lamp is in a glass. The glass is as it were a shining star. (This lamp is) kindled from a blessed tree, an olive neither of the East nor of the West, whose oil would almost glow forth (of itself) though no fire touched it. Light upon light . Allah guideth unto His light whom He will. And Allah speaketh to mankind in allegories, for Allah is Knower of all things.” “(This lamp is found) in houses which Allah hath allowed to be exalted and that His name shall be remembered therein. Therein do offer praise to Him at morn and evening.” Surah 24:35-36 Pickthall 24th August 2009

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Surah 24:35 God is like the light from Oil Lamps inside a Mosque Surah 24:35 compares God with the Light of an Oil lamp which burns inside a Mosque. Islamic Fundamentalists would have us believe that it refers to Nuclear Fusion, even though no such thing is mentioned anywhere in the Koran. They argue that references to Oil Lamps inside a Mosque do not really refer to Oil Lamps inside a Mosque, but rather to Nuclear Fusion inside Stars, even though there are no References to either Stars or Fusion involved.

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Claim 08 - Conclusion 1.

If this interpretation is true, then how is it that Muslims did not discover Nuclear Fusion before Non-Muslims?

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Claim 09 - Nucleosynthesis of the Elements inside Stars

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Claim 09 Stellar Nucleosynthesis of the Elements

“And We also sent down iron in which there lies great force and which has many uses for mankind…” Surah 57:25 Harun Yahya

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Claim 09 Stellar Nucleosynthesis of the Elements Hydrogen Helium

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Claim 09 Stellar Nucleosynthesis of the Elements 1.

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Nowadays we know that apart from Hydrogen and Helium, all Chemical Elements are Synthesised in Nuclear reactions in Stars. Surah 57:25 is said to be a reference to this, since Iron is one of the many Elements that are created in Stars. Since Nucleosynthesis was only discovered in the C20th, some Muslims claim that its prediction in the Koran is a Scientific Miracle. Such advanced Scientific information is said to be evidence of the Korans divine origin, since Mohammed could not possibly have known of Nucleosynthesis in Stars 1400 years ago. This is said to prove the truth of Islam.

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Surah 57:25 Checking the translation 1 Pickthall “And he revealed iron, wherein is mighty power and (many) uses for mankind.” Yusuf Ali “And we sent down Iron, in which is (material for) mighty war, as well as many benefits for mankind.” Hilali-Khan “And we brought forth iron wherein is mighty power (in matters of war), as well as many benefits for mankind, Shakir And we have made the iron, wherein is great violence and advantages to men.” Sher Ali and we sent down iron, wherein is material for violent warfare and diverse uses for mankind.” Khalifa And we sent down the iron, wherein there is strength, and many benefits for the people.”

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Surah 57:25 Checking the translation 2 Arberry “And we sent down iron, wherein is great might, and many uses for men.” Palmer “And we sent down iron in which is both keen violence and advantages to men.” Rodwell “And we have sent down iron. Dire evil resideth in it, as well as advantage, to mankind!” Sale “And we sent [them] down iron, wherein is mighty strength for war, and [various] advantages unto mankind.” Irving “We have sent iron down laden with grim violence as well as (other) benefits for mankind.” Dawood “We have sent down Iron with its mighty strength and diverse uses for mankind.”

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Response to Claim 09 (Surah 57:25) 1.

The wording of this verse is very vague.There is no mention of any Element other than Iron and no reference to Stars.

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All the Surah says about Iron is that it came down from the Sky.

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A simpler explanation is that this verse is a reference to Iron Meteorites which were known in the Ancient World.

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Iron from Meteorites was the oldest source of Iron that Ancient peoples used.

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Meteoritic Iron in Ancient Egypt

The Ancient Egyptians knew of Meteoritic Iron as it has been found in their tombs. Ancient Egyptians believed that the Sky or Heaven was made of Iron.

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The Kaaba in Mecca – Iron sent down from Heaven? The famous Black Stone in the Kaaba in Mecca is though to be an Iron Meteorite by many non-Muslims. It is believed that in Pre-Islamic times, Meteorites were worshiped by local Arabs who thought that they were sent down from Heaven.

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Claim 09 - Conclusion 1.

There is no evidence of any reference to Nucleosynthesis in Surah 57:25.Meteoritic Iron is a more likely explanation of this verse.

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If the Koran is referring to Nucleosynthesis, then how come Muslims did not discover it before non-Muslims?

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Most of the Elements in the periodic table are not referred to in the Koran as their existence was not known 1400 years ago.

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Interpreting Surah 57:25 as Nucleosynthesis is just wishful thinking.

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Claim 10 - Einstein's Theory of Relativity mentioned in the Koran

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Claim 10 Einstein's Theory of Relativity. Einstein discovered that time slows down for an object travelling close to the Speed of light.Some Muslims claim that the Koran alluded to this 1300 years before Einstein thus proving its divine origin. “… A day with your Lord is equivalent to a thousand years in the way you count.” Surah 22:47 See also Surah 32:5 & Surah 70:4 24th August 2009

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Surah 22:47 Checking the translation 1 Pickthall “And they will bid thee hasten on the doom, and Allah faileth not His promise, but lo! a day with Allah is as a thousand years of what ye reckon.” Yusuf Ali “Yet they ask thee to hasten on the punishment! But God will not fail in his promise. Verily a day in the sight of thy lord is like a thousand years of your reckoning.” Hilali-Khan ”And they ask you to hasten on the torment! And Allah fails not his promise. And verily, a day with your lord is as a thousand years of what you reckon.” Shakir “And they ask you to hasten on the punishment, and Allah will by no means fail in his promise, and surely a day with your Lord is as a thousand years of what you number.”

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Surah 22:47 Checking the translation 2 Sher Ali “And they demand of thee to hasten on the punishment, but Allah will never break his promise. And, verily, a day with thy Lord is sometimes as a thousand years of your reckoning.” Khalifa “They challenge you to bring retribution, and God never fails to fulfil his prophecy. A day of your lord is like a thousand of your years. “ Arberry “And they demand of thee to hasten the chastisement! God will not fail His promise; and surely a day with thy lord is as a thousand years of your counting.” Palmer “They will bid thee hasten on the torment, but God will never fail in his promise; for, verily, a day with thy lord is as a thousand years of what ye number.”

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Surah 22:47 Checking the translation 3 Rodwell “And they will bid thee to hasten the chastisement. But God cannot fail his threat. And verily, a day with thy lord is as a thousand years, as ye reckon them! “ Sale “They will urge thee to hasten the [threatened] punishment; but God will not fail [to perform] what he hath threatened: And verily [one] day with thy lord [is] as a thousand years, of those which ye compute”. Irving “They try to make you hurry up the torment! God will never go back on His promise; a day with your Lord is like a thousand years such as those you count by.” Dawood “They bid you hasten the scourge.God will not fail his promise.Each day of your lords is like a thousand years in your reckoning.” 24th August 2009

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Time Dilation in Irish Mythology. Despite what Islamic Fundamentalists claim, the idea of time passing at different speeds in different places is a theme in many Myths and Legends. In an Irish Legend, the Hero Oisin travels to the magical land of Tir Na n-Og and stays for three days. When he returns to Ireland, he is shocked to discover that 300 years have passed.

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Time Dilation in Japanese Mythology. There is also a Japanese Legend about a fisherman called Urashima Taro who was invited to visit the undersea palace of the Emperor of the Sea for a couple of days.When he returned home, he found that 300 years had passed. The idea that time passes slowly in the supernatural world is found in many cultures and not just in the Koran. This has nothing to do with Einstein or Relativity.

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Claim 11- The Koran accurately gives the age of the Universe.

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Claim 11 Age of the Universe 6 days = Billions of years “Your Lord is Allah, Who created the Heavens and the Earth in six days and then settled Himself firmly on the Throne... “ Surah 7:54 According to this claim, the Koran correctly predicted the age of the Universe 1400 years ago, thus proving that it came from God.

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1 Age of Universe – Harun Yahya Day No

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According to this interpretation, although billions of years have passed since the beginning of the Universe, only six days have passed from Gods perspective. This is said to be due to time passing much more slowly in the past due to the greater density of the Universe. Such accurate scientific knowledge is said to indicate the Korans Divine origin.

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2 Age of Universe – “Quran Miracles” Day No 1 2 3 4 5 6 Total

Duration 2.28 Billion 2.28 Billion 2.28 Billion 2.28 Billion 2.28 Billion 2.28 Billion

years years years years years years

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According to this alternative interpretation, the six days of creation were all equal periods of 2.28 Billion years. This is is based on Earths age of 4.5 billion years old being one third the 13.7 billion year age of the Universe. The Koran is said to show Earth being created in two of the six days of Creation. Therefore a day is calculated as being 2.28 billion years.

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3 Age of Universe – Submission.org Day No 1 2 3 4 5 6 7

Duration 1 literal day 1 literal day 1 literal day 1 literal day 1 literal day 1 literal day 18.25 Billion years

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According to this alternative interpretation, the six days of creation were literal human days 50, 000 divine years ago.50,000 divine years are said to equal 18.25 billion years, the time that has passed since the origin of the Universe. Such accurate scientific knowledge is said to indicate the Korans Divine origin.

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3 Age of Universe – Submission.org “The angels and the spirit ascend unto Him in a day, the measure of which was fifty thousand years.“ Surah 70:4 This verse refers to the ascent of angels and the spirit (meant to be Gabriel) back to heaven after settling all matters of life in the universe. The verse clearly said a day that "was" & not a day that 'is', which clearly indicates that that day was in the past (50,000 years ago). "…A day relative to your God is equivalent to a thousand years of your count." Surah 22:47 With a few simple equations: If 1 day (for God) = 1000 years (for man) 1 year = 1000 x 365 (for man) = 365,000 years 50,000 years (for God) = 365,000 x 50,000 (for man) = 18.25 billion! http://www.submission.org/universe.html 24th August 2009

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If this claim is true, then why were Muslims not able to say what the age of the Universe was before modern science discovered it? How is it that three different groups of Islamic Fundamentalists come up with three different and contradictory interpretations of the same verse? In the last few years, the age of the Universe has been accurately measured as being 13.7 billion years old.How is it that the Koran supposedly gives ages of 15.750 Billion years old (Harun Yahya) & also 18.25 Billion years old? (Submission.org) These calculations appear to be little more than fiddling with numbers to produce a desired outcome. If in a few years time, Astronomers discovered that the Universe was in fact 50 billion years old, then no doubt, somebody would “discover” this in the Koran as well.

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Literal days of Creation in the Hadith Sahih Muslim Book 039, Number 6707: “Abu Haraira reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) took hold of my hands and said: Allah, the Exalted and Glorious, created the clay on Saturday and He created the mountains on Sunday and He created the trees on Monday and He created the things entailing labour on Tuesday and created light on Wednesday and lie caused the animals to spread on Thursday and created Adam (peace be upon him) after 'Asr on Friday ;the last creation at the last hour of the hours of Friday, i. e. between afternoon and night”

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Al-Tabari (AD838-923) Abu Ja'far Muhammad ibn Jarir al-Tabari was an important early Mulims Historian who wrote a book on the History of the World from an Islamic perspective. “The History of the Prophets and Kings” It covered the History of the World from Its Creation to AD915.In it he claimed that Mohammed said That the World was only about 6500 years old. His works do not have the authority of The Koran or Hadith, but they show how early Muslims interpreted these books.

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How long ago was the Creation of the Universe? (Al-Tabari ) “All these facts taken together make it clear that of the two statements I have mentioned concerning the total extent of time, the one from Ibn Abbas, and the other from Ka'b, the one more likely to be correct in accordance with the information coming from the Messenger of God is that of Ibn 'Abbas transmitted here by us on his authority: The world is one of the weeks of the other world - seven thousand years” "Consequently, because this is so and the report on the authority of the Messenger of God is sound- namely, that he reported that what remained of the time of this world during his lifetime was half a day, or five hundred years, since five hundred years are half a day of the days, of which one is a thousand years - the conclusion is that the time of this world that had elapsed to the moment of the Prophet's statement corresponds to what we have transmitted on the authority of Abu Tha'labah al-Khushani from the Prophet, and is 6,500 years or approximately 6,500 years. God knows best!" 24th August 2009

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According to the Hadith, the Korans description of the Universe being created in six days refer to six literal days. The Hadith implies that the Universe is only a few days older than Adam. Belief in the characters of the Bible implies that they lived thousands of years before Mohammed.Early Muslim historians agreed with this. Attempts by some Muslims to use the Day-Age theory and claims that the Koran implies the Universe to be billions of years old are just attempts to fiddle with numbers and rescue the Koran from modern Science. The Koran and Hadith imply that the Universe is less than 10,000 years old, just like the Bible also does.

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Claim 12 - The Electromagnetic Spectrum is mentioned in the Koran

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Surah 6:1 Checking the translation 1 Pickthall “Praise be to Allah, who hath created the Heavens and the Earth, and hath appointed darkness and light. Yet those who disbelieve ascribe rivals unto their lord.” Yusuf Ali “Praise be God, who created the Heavens and the Earth, and made the darkness and the light. Yet those who reject faith hold (others) as equal, with their guardian-lord.” Hilali-Khan “All praises and thanks be to Allah, who (Alone) created the Heavens and the Earth, and originated the darkness and the light, yet those who disbelieve hold others as equal with their Lord.” Shakir “All praise is due to Allah, who created the Heavens and the Earth and made the darkness and the light; yet those who disbelieve set up equals with their lord.”

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Surah 6:1 Checking the translation 2 Sher Ali “All praise belongs to Allah who created the Heavens and the Earth and brought into being darkness and light; yet those who disbelieve set up equals to their lord.” Khalifa “Praise be to God, who created the Heavens and the Earth, and made the darkness and the light. Yet, those who disbelieve in their lord continue to deviate.” Arberry “Praise belongs to God who created the Heavens and the Earth and appointed the shadows and light; then the unbelievers Palmer “Praise belongs to God who created the Heavens and the Earth, and brought into being the darkness and the light. Yet do those who misbelieve hold him to have peers.”

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Surah 6:1 Checking the translation 3 Rodwell “Praise be to God, who hath created the Heavens and the Earth, and ordained the darkness and the light! Yet unto their lord do the infidels give peers!” Sale “Praise be unto God, who hath created the Heavens and the Earth, and hath ordained the darkness and the light; nevertheless they who believe not in the lord, equalize [other gods with him].” Irving “Praise be to God, who created Heaven and Earth and granted darkness and light! Yet those who disbelieve make other things equal to their lord.” Dawood “Praise be to God who created the Heavens and the Earth and ordained light and darkness.Yet the unbelievers set up other gods as equals with their lord.”

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Response to Claim 12 (Surah 6:1) 1.

This claim is really scraping the bottom of the barrel.This Surah makes no reference to wavelengths of light that cannot be seen by the naked eye.

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The references to light and darkness are simply references to day and night.Knowing that light and darkness exist is not at all miraculous.

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If the Harun Yahya’s interpretation of this verse is correct, then how come Muslims did not discover the Electromagnetic Spectrum hundreds of years ago?

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Zoroaster: Light and darkness In the C6th BC and long before the Prophet Mohammed, the Persian Prophet Zoroaster (or Zarathusra) founded the religion of Zoroastrianism which emphasised the duality of light and darkness.Nobody ever claimed that he was alluding to invisible parts of the electromagnetic spectrum. Many aspects of Islam are to be found in Zoroastrianism and Mohammed may have copied some of his ideas from Zoroaster. 24th August 2009

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Claim 12 - Conclusion

The Koran does not refer to parts of the Electromagnetic spectrum invisible to the human eye.Surah 6:1 is simply referring to day & night. There is nothing miraculous about this.

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Claim 13 – The Koran predicted the existence of sub-atomic particles.

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Claim 13 Sub-Atomic Particles According to this claim, the Koran refers to the existence of Sub-Atomic particles 1300 years before their discovery by modern science. Atoms were postulated by the Ancient Greeks, but not proven to exist until 1809. Sub-Atomic particles were first discovered in 1897.The concept on the left was not proposed until 1909. 24th August 2009

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Claim 13 Sub-Atomic Particles “… He is the Knower of the unseen, whom not an atom's weight eludes,either in the Heavens or in the Earth; nor is there anything smaller or larger than that which is not in a clear book.” Surah 34:3 Harun Yahya “… Not even an atom's weight eludes your lord, either on Earth or in Heaven. Nor is there anything smaller than that, or larger, which is not in a blear book.” Surah 10:61 Harun Yahya

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The earliest concept of an Atom was of a solid indivisible particle. This idea was proposed in India in the C6th BC. In the C5th BC, the Ancient Greek Philosopher Democritus proposed a similar idea. In the C7th AD, the Koran is said to have referred to Atoms and things smaller than Atoms which the Greeks or Indians never mentioned. In 1807, John Dalton demonstrated that Atoms are real and not just theoretical.Dalton believed that Atoms were indivisible though. In 1897, JJ Thompson discovered the Electron, and proved the existence of the first of many Sub-Atomic particles. Thus, the Koran supposedly was centuries ahead of its time, proving its divine origin and the truth of Islam.

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Claim 13 Sub-Atomic Particles Left; The Greek Philosopher, Democritus (460 – 370 BC) proposed the idea of Atoms which were solid and indivisible with no smaller Particles. The Koran is said to have corrected the idea that Atoms are indivisible and referred to Sub-Atomic particles.

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Left;John Dalton (top) demonstrated the existence Of Atoms in 1807 and JJ Thompson (bottom) discovered the Electron, the first Sub-Atomic particle in 1897. This is said to conforms the Koran and prove its Divine origin.

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Surah 34:3 Checking the translation 1 Pickthall “Not an atom's weight, or less than that or greater, escapeth Him in the Heavens or in the Earth, but it is in a clear record.” Yusuf Ali “From whom is not hidden the least little atom in the Heavens or on Earth: Nor is there anything less than that, or greater, but is in the record perspicuous.” Hilali-Khan “Not even the weight of an atom (or a small ant) or less than that or greater, escapes from his knowledge in the Heavens or in the Earth, but it is in a clear book (Al-Lauh Al-Mahfuz).“ Shakir “Not the weight of an atom becomes absent from him, in the Heavens or in the Earth, and neither less than that nor greater, but (all) is in a clear book.”

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Surah 34:3 Checking the translation 2 Sher Ali “Not an atom's weight in the Heavens or in the Earth or anything less than that or greater escapes him, but all is recorded in a perspicuous book.” Khalifa “Not even the equivalent of an atom's weight is hidden from him, be it in the Heavens or the Earth. Not even smaller than that, or larger (is hidden). All are in a profound record." Arberry “Not so much as the weight of an ant in Heaven and Earth escapes from him, neither is aught smaller than that, or greater, but it is in a manifest book.” Palmer “Nor shall there escape from it the weight of an atom, in the Heavens or in the Earth, or even less than that, or greater, save in the perspicuous book.‘”

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Surah 34:3 Checking the translation 3 Rodwell “Not the weight of a mote either in the Heavens or in the Earth escapeth him; nor is there aught less than this or aught greater, which is not in the clear Book.” Sale The weight of an ant, either in Heaven or in Earth, is not absent from him, nor any thing lesser than this or greater, but [the same is written] in the perspicuous book. [of his decrees]” Irving “No atom's weight in either Heaven nor on Earth nor anything less than that nor larger ever escapes Him, unless it is in a clear book.” Dawood “Not an atoms weight in the Heaven or Earth escapes him:Nor is there anything smaller or greater but is recorded in a glorious book.”

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Surah 10:61 Checking the translation 1 Pickthall “And not an atom's weight in the Earth or in the Sky escapeth your lord, nor what is less than that or greater than that, but it is (written) in a clear Book.” Yusuf Ali “Nor is hidden from thy lord (so much as) the weight of an atom on the Earth or in Heaven. And not the least and not the greatest of these things but are recorded in a clear record.” Hilali-Khan “And nothing is hidden from your lord (so much as) the weight of an atom (or small ant) on the Earth or in the Heaven. Not what is less than that or what is greater than that but is (written) in a Clear Record. (Tafsir At-Tabari. Vol.11, Page 129).” Shakir “And there does not lie concealed from your lord the weight of an atom in the Earth or in the Heaven, nor any thing less than that nor greater, but it is in a clear book.”

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Surah 10:61 Checking the translation 2 Sher Ali “And there is not hidden from thy lord even an atom's weight in the Earth or in Heaven. And there is nothing smaller than that or greater, but it is recorded in a clear book.” Khalifa “Not even an atom's weight is out of your lord's control, be it in the Heavens or the Earth. Nor is there anything smaller than an atom, or larger, that is not recorded in a profound record. Arberry “And not so much as the weight of an ant in Earth or Heaven escapes from thy lord, neither is aught smaller than that, or greater, but in a manifest book.“ Palmer “Nor does the weight of an atom escape thy lord in Earth or in Heaven; nor is there less than that or greater, but it is in the perspicuous book.”

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Surah 10:61 Checking the translation 3 Rodwell “And not the weight of an atom on Earth or in Heaven escapeth thy lord; nor is there aught that is less than this or greater, but it is in the perspicuous book.“ Sale “Nor is so much as the weight of an ant hidden from thy lord, in Earth or in Heaven: Neither [is there any thing] lesser than that, or greater, but it is [written] in the perspicuous book.” Irving “No atom's weight escapes your lord on Earth nor in Heaven, nor anything smaller than that nor larger, unless it is [recorded] in a plain book.” Dawood “Not an atoms weight in Earth or Heaven escapes your lord, nor is there any object smaller or greater, but it is recorded in a glorious book.”

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Epicurus and Lucretius Ancient Greek ideas concerning Atoms were only speculative and they had little evidence to prove their real existence. Although Democritus (460 – 370 BC) thought Of Atoms as being indivisible with no smaller particles, not everyone in the Ancient World Agreed with him. Epicurus (341 – 270 BC) and Lucretius (99 – 55 BC) speculated on the existence of particles smaller than Atoms without any divine inspiration many centuries before Mohammed.Such ideas were widespread in the C7th AD. 24th August 2009

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Ismail Ibn Kathir (AD1301–1373) If the Koran is referring to sub-atomic particles, then medieval Islamic scholars Such as Ibn Kathir would have noticed this. The next slide is what Ibn Kathir’s Tasfir (commentary) says concerning the two verses in question. Ibn Kathir’s commentary is still widely used by Muslims as a guide to interpreting the Koran.

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Tasfir Ibn Kathir “Nothing slips or escapes from His knowledge and observation, not even anything the weight of a speck of dust within the heavens or earth, or anything that is smaller or larger than that. Everything is in a manifest Book, as Allah said.” Ibn Kathir on Surah 10:61 “The All-Knower of the Unseen, not even the weight of a speck of dust or less than that or greater escapes His knowledge in the heavens or in the earth but it is in a Clear Book.” Ibn Kathir on Surah 34:3 Ibn Kathir writing almost 700 years ago would not have had any modern preconceptions or prejudices, yet he fails to detect any references Sub-atomic particles in these verses. This is because there are no such references in the verses. 24th August 2009

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The Koran is not referring to modern Atomic Theory, & probably not even to Ancient Atomic Theories either. The word “Atom” is not the best translation of the Arabic word that can also mean a small ant or a dust particle. Even if the Koran is referring to Atoms, (which seems unlikely) the idea of Sub-Atomic particles had been around for centuries before Mohammed. Perhaps the best translation of the Arabic word translated as “Atom” would be better translated as “the smallest thing you can imagine.” Some modern translators most likely use the word “Atom” as it is the smallest thing that they can think off. Either way, Surah 10:61 & 34:3 are not evidence of any Divine authorship of the Koran.

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Claim 14 – The Koran refers to Nuclear Fission

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Surah 6:95:Nuclear Fission “Allah splits the seed and kernel. He brings forth the living from the dead,and produces the dead out of the living. That is Allah, so how are you misguided? “ (Surah 6:95) This is supposed to be a reference to Nuclear Fission. http://www.miraclesofthequran.com/predictions_14.html

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Nowadays we know that Atoms can be split by Nuclear Fission in an Atomic Bomb or Nuclear Reactor. Such ideas were not known until the early C20th, yet we are told that Surah 6:95 of the Koran predicted Fission 1400 years ago. Such advanced Scientific information is said to be evidence of the Korans divine origin, since Mohammed could not possibly have known of Nucleosynthesis in Stars 1400 years ago. This is said to prove the truth of Islam and provide compelling evidence for unbelievers to convert (or “revert”) to Islam.

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Surah 6:95 Checking the translation 1 Pickthall “Lo! Allah (it is) Who splitteth the grain of corn and the datestone (for sprouting). He bringeth forth the living from the dead, and is the bringer-forth of the dead from the living. Such is Allah.” Yusuf Ali “It is God Who causeth the seed-grain and the date-stone to split and sprout. He causeth the living to issue from the dead, and He is the one to cause the dead to issue from the living.” Hilali-Khan “Verily! It is Allah Who causes the seedgrain and the fruitstone (like datestone, etc.) to split and sprout. He brings forth the living from the dead, and it is He Who brings forth the dead from the living.” Shakir “Surely Allah causes the grain and the stone to germinate; He brings forth the living from the dead and He is the bringer forth of the dead from the living; that is Allah! how are you then turned away.” 24th August 2009

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Surah 6:95 Checking the translation 2 Sher Ali “Verily, it is Allah Who causes the grain and the date-stones to sprout. He brings forth the living from the dead, and he is the bringer forth of the dead from the living.” Khalifa “God is the one who causes the grains and the seeds to crack and germinate. He produces the living from the dead, and the dead from the living." Arberry “It is God who splits the grain and the date-stone, brings forth the living from the dead; he brings forth the dead too from the living.” Palmer “Verily, God it is who cleaves out the grain and the datestone; he brings forth the living from the dead, and it is he who brings the dead from the living.”

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Surah 6:95 Checking the translation 3 Rodwell “Verily God causeth the grain and the date stone to put forth: He bringeth forth the living from the dead, and the dead from the living! This is God!“ Sale “God causeth the grain, and the date-stone to pour forth: He bringeth forth the living from the dead, and he bringeth forth the dead from the living.” Irving “God is the one who splits the seed and kernel, he brings the living from the dead, and is the one who brings the dead from the living.” Dawood “It is God who splits the seed and the fruit stone.He brings forth the living from the dead and the dead from the living.”

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Claim 14 - Conclusion 1.

This is one of the most absurd claims of an alleged Scientific Miracle in the Koran.

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It is\obvious to anyone reading Surah 6:95 and the verses around it, that the Koran is describing the germination of seeds and not Nuclear Fission.

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Any farmer would know about seeds splitting during germination.No miraculous knowledge is involved.

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Claim 15 Creation in pairs = Anti-Matter

“Glory be to Him Who created all the pairs: from what the Earth produces and from themselves and from things unknown to them.” (Qur'an, 36:36)

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Surah 36:36 Checking the translation 1 Pickthall “Glory be to him who created all the sexual pairs, of that which the Earth groweth, and of themselves, & of that which they know not!” Yusuf Ali “Glory to God, who created in pairs all things that the Earth produces, as well as their own (human) kind & (other) things of which they have no knowledge.” Hilali-Khan “Glory be to him, who has created all the pairs of that which the Earth produces, as well as of their own (human) kind (male and female), & of that which they know not.” Shakir “Glory be to him who created pairs of all things, of what the Earth grows, and of their kind & of what they do not know. “ Sher Ali “Holy is he who created all things in pairs, of what the Earth grows & of themselves, and of what they know not.” Khalifa “Glory be to the one who created all kinds of plants from the Earth, as well as themselves, & other creations that they do not even know.” 24th August 2009

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Surah 36:36 Checking the translation 2 Arberry “Glory be to him, who created all the pairs of what the Earth produces, and of themselves, and of what they know not. Palmer “Celebrated be the praises of him who created all kinds, of what the Earth brings forth, and of themselves, and what they know not of! Rodwell “Glory be to him, who hath created all the sexual pairs of such things as Earth produceth, and of mankind themselves; and of things beyond their ken! Sale “Praise be unto him who hath created all the different kinds, [both] of [vegetables], which the Earth bringeth forth, and of their own species, [by forming the two sexes], and also [the various sorts] of things which they know not. Irving “Glory be to the one who has created every kind of species such as the Earth grows, their own kind, and even some things they do not know! Dawood “Glory to him who made all things in pairs:the plants of the Earth, mankind themselves and the living things which they know not.” 24th August 2009

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Response to Claim 15 (Surah 36:36 ) 1.

Surah 36 makes no reference to Antimatter, just a vague reference to male and female living things.

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The concepts of matter and anti-matter are nowhere in the Koran.

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Interpreting male and female as matter and anti-matter means reading things into the Koran that are not there.

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You might just as well say that the I-Ching is divinely inspired as it refers to “Yin” and “Yang” which could be interpreted as matter and anti-matter.

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Surah 36:36 Creation in pairs

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Yin and Yang It is conceivable that Taoists might claim that the references to “Yin” & “Yang” in the I-Ching which was written 1000 years before the Koran really refer to matter & antimatter. This, it might be claimed is evidence that the I-Ching is divinely inspired & that we should all become Taoists. This is no more ridiculous than similar claims made for the Koran. 24th August 2009

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The Koran is not referring to modern anti-matter any more than the I-Ching is.

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Such interpretations are just a fantasy in the minds of Islamic Fundamentalists.

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Surah 36:36 is just describing the existence of male and female animals which is obvious for all to see.

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This is yet another false claim of a Scientific Miracle in the Koran.

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Claim 16 - The Koran refers to the existence of Parallel Universes.

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Claim 16 Parallel Universes “We created above you seven Universes in layers, and we are never unaware of a single creature in them.” Surah 23:17 “He created seven Universes in layers. You do not see any imperfection in the creation by the Most Gracious. Keep looking;do you see any flaw?” Surah 67:3 “Do you not realize that God created seven Universes in layers?” Surah 71:15

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In recent years, a growing number of Scientists are suggesting that there is a considerable amount of theoretical evidence for the existence of Parallel Universes. However, Surah 23:17, 67:3 & 71:15 in the Koran mentioned the existence of Parallel Universes 1400 years ago. Surely, it is argued, a simple illiterate man such as Mohammed could not possibly have known such advanced scientific ideas so long ago unless God had revealed them to him? Such advanced scientific ideas, it is argued prove the divine authorship of the Koran and the truth of Islam In the light of such an overwhelming scientific miracles, unbelievers should convert (or “revert”) to Islam

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Surah 23:17 Checking the translation 1 Pickthall “And we have created above you seven paths, and we are never unmindful of creation.” Yusuf Ali “And we have made, above you, seven tracts; and We are never unmindful of (our) Creation”. Hilali-Khan “And indeed we have created above you seven Heavens (one over the other), and We are never unaware of the creation.” Shakir “And certainly we made above you seven Heavens; and never are We heedless of creation”. Sher-Ali “And we have created above you seven ways, and we are never neglectful of the creation. Khalifa “We created above you seven Universes in layers, and we are never unaware of a single creature in them.” Notice how only one translation out of 12 dishonestly uses the word “Universe” in order to sound scientific. 24th August 2009

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Surah 23:17 Checking the translation 2 Arberry “And we created above you seven ways, and we were not heedless of creation.” Palmer “And we have created above you seven roads; nor are we heedless of the creation.” Rodwell “And we have created over you seven Heavens: - and we are not careless of the creation”. Sale “And we have created over you seven Heavens: and we are not negligent of what we have created.” Irving “We have created seven orbits above you; we have not been heedless about creation.” Dawood “We have created seven Heavens above you:Of our creation, we are never heedless.”

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Surah 67:3 Checking the translation 1 Pickthall “Who hath created seven Heavens in harmony. Thou (Muhammad) canst see no fault in the beneficent one's creation.” Yusuf Ali “He who created the seven Heavens one above another: No want of proportion wilt thou see in the creation of (God) most gracious.” Hilali-Khan “Who has created the seven Heavens one above another, you can see no fault in the creations of the most beneficent.” Shakir “Who created the seven Heavens one above another; you see no incongruity in the creation of the beneficent God.” Sher-Ali “Who has created seven Heavens in harmony. No incongruity canst thou see in the creation of the gracious God.” Khalifa “He created seven Universes in layers. You do not see any imperfection in the creation by the most gracious.” Notice how only one translation out of 12 dishonestly uses the word “Universe” in order to sound scientific. 24th August 2009

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Surah 67:3 Checking the translation 2 Arberry “Who created seven Heavens one upon another. Thou seest not in the creation of the all-merciful any imperfection.” Palmer “Who created seven Heavens in stories; thou canst not see any discordance in the creation of the merciful! Rodwell “Who hath created seven Heavens one above another: No defect canst thou see in the creation of the God of mercy Sale “Who hath created seven Heavens, one above another: Thou canst not see in a creature of the most merciful any unfitness or disproportion. Irving “Who created seven matching Heavens. You do not see any discrepancy in the mercy-giving's creation Dawood “He created seven Heavens, one above the other.You will not see a flaw in the merciful’s creation.”

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Surah 71:15 Checking the translation 1 Pickthall “See ye not how Allah hath created seven Heavens in harmony.” Yusuf Ali "'See ye not how God has created the seven Heavens one above another.” Hilali-Khan “See you not how Allah has created the seven Heavens one above another.” Shakir “Do you not see how Allah has created the seven Heavens, one above another.” Sher-Ali “See you not how Allah has created seven Heavens in perfect harmony.” Khalifa “Do you not realize that God created seven Universes in layers?” Notice how only one translation out of 12 dishonestly uses the word “Universe” in order to sound scientific. 24th August 2009

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Surah 71:15 Checking the translation 2 Arberry “Have you not regarded how God created seven Heavens one upon another.” Palmer “Do ye not see how God has created the seven Heavens in stories.” Rodwell “See ye not how God hath created the seven Heavens one over the other?” Sale “Do ye not see how God hath created the seven Heavens, one above another.” Irving “Have you not (all) considered how God created seven matching Heavens?” Dawood “Can you not see how God created the seven Heavens, one above the other?”

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Response to Claim 16 •

From reading 12 translations of Surah 23:17, 67:3 & 71:15 it can be seen that only one translation uses the word “Universe.”

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This one translation is clearly inaccurate as it is contradicted by the other 11 translations.

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It appears that the Khalifa translation is trying to distort the translation in order to make the Koran sound more scientific and modern than it really is.

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This is a classic example of rewriting the Koran to make it say things that are not really in it.

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Mohammed ascends to the 7 Heavens Al-Bukhari Volume 4 Book 54 Number 429 Al-Buraq, a white animal, smaller than a mule and bigger than a donkey was brought to me and I set out with Gabriel. When I reached the nearest heaven. Gabriel said to the heaven gate-keeper, 'Open the gate.' The gatekeeper asked, 'Who is it?' He said, 'Gabriel.' The gate-keeper,' Who is accompanying you?' Gabriel said, 'Muhammad.' The gate-keeper said, 'Has he been called?' Gabriel said, 'Yes.' Then it was said, 'He is welcomed. What a wonderful visit his is!' Then I met Adam and greeted him and he said, 'You are welcomed O son and a Prophet.' Then we ascended to the second heaven. It was asked, 'Who is it?' Gabriel said, 'Gabriel.' It was said, 'Who is with you?' He said, 'Muhammad' It was asked, 'Has he been sent for?' He said, 'Yes.' It was said, 'He is welcomed. What a wonderful visit his is!" Then I met Jesus and Yahya (John) who said, 'You are welcomed, O brother and a Prophet.' Then we ascended to the third heaven. It was asked, 'Who is it?' Gabriel said, 'Gabriel.' It was asked, 'Who is with you? Gabriel said, 'Muhammad.' It was asked, 'Has he been sent for?' 'Yes,' said Gabriel. 'He is welcomed. What a wonderful visit his is!' (The Prophet added:). There I met Joseph and greeted him, and he replied, 'You are welcomed, O brother and a Prophet!' (Continued on next slide) 24th August 2009

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Mohammed ascends to the 7 Heavens Al-Bukhari Volume 4 Book 54 Number 429 (Continued from previous slide) Then we ascended to the 4th heaven and again the same questions and answers were exchanged as in the previous heavens. There I met Idris and greeted him. He said, 'You are welcomed O brother and Prophet.' Then we ascended to the 5th heaven and again the same questions and answers were exchanged as in previous heavens. there I met and greeted Aaron who said, 'You are welcomed O brother and a Prophet". Then we ascended to the 6th heaven and again the same questions and answers were exchanged as in the previous heavens. There I met and greeted Moses who said, 'You are welcomed O brother and. a Prophet.' When I proceeded on, he started weeping and on being asked why he was weeping, he said, 'O Lord! Followers of this youth who was sent after me will enter Paradise in greater number than my followers.' Then we ascended to the seventh heaven and again the same questions and answers were exchanged as in the previous heavens. There I met and greeted Abraham who said, 'You are welcomed o son and a Prophet.' Then I was shown Al-Bait-al-Ma'mur (i.e. Allah's House). 24th August 2009

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Seven Heavens above the Earth Al-Tirmidhi 5735 He then asked, "Do you know what is above you?" On their replying that Allah and His Messenger (peace be upon him) knew best, he said, "It is the firmament, a ceiling which is guarded and waves which are kept back." He then asked, "Do you know what is between you and it?" On their replying that Allah and His Messenger (peace be upon him) knew best, he said, "Between you and it are five hundred years." He then asked, "Do you knew what is above that?" On their replying that Allah and His Messenger (peace be upon him) best he said, "Two heavens with a distance of five hundred years between them." He went on speaking like that till he counted seven heavens, the distance between each pair being like between Heaven and Earth. He then asked, "Do you know what is above that?" On their replying that Allah and His Messenger (peace be upon him) knew best, he said, "Above that is the Throne, and the distance between it and the (seventh) heaven is the same as that between each pair of heavens." 24th August 2009

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Names of the Seven Heavens

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The Seven Heavens of Islam Name Description Rafi' (‫ع( یرف‬ Qaydum (‫دوم( یق‬ Marum (‫)ماروم‬ Arfalun (‫)أرفللللللون‬ Hay'oun (‫)هيللعلون‬ Arous (‫)عروس‬ Ajma' (‫)عجماء‬

1st Heaven 2nd Heaven 3rd Heaven 4th Heaven 5th Heaven 6th Heaven 7th Heaven

Heaven of Adam Heaven of John Heaven of Joseph Heaven of Idris Heaven of Aaron Heaven of Moses Heaven of Abraham

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Heavens

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Parallel Universes in Hinduism In Hinduism, unlike Islam, there really are Parallel Universes. Here the God Vishnu sleeps in the Casual Ocean and his dreams create parallel Universes including our own. You will not find Islamic Fundamentalists claiming that the Hindu Scriptures are divinely inspired though.

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Conclusion Conclusion for Koran Science & Cosmology (Part 1) 1. 2. 3.

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This Presentation has examined 16 examples of alleged Scientific Miracles in the Koran and found them to be totally unconvincing. The “evidence” for Scientific Miracles in these 16 examples does not stand up to scrutiny. This “evidence” is based on vague phrases, dishonest or inaccurate translations,taking verses out of context, fiddling with numbers & ignoring the most obvious or traditional interpretation. Different Fundamentalists can make the same vague few words mean completely different & contradictory things. These 16 examples do not support claims of Scientific Miracles in the Koran.More examples are examined in the next Presentation.

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