September 9, 2008
This is Detective Rick Arnold, the Louisville Metro Police. This is a continuation of Case file investigation #08-197. The time is now 1:00 pm. The date is 9, or September 9, 2008. I am with Jaque, Jaque N. Taylor. Spelling is J-A-Q-U-E. Last name, Taylor. T-A-Y-L-O-R.
Arnold
What's your date of birth, Jaque?
Taylor Arnold Taylor Arnold
And your home address?
Taylor
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Arnold
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Taylor
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Arnold
Say that again, and Spell it for me. 'Cause I'm havin' trouble…
Taylor
Uh…
Arnold
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Taylor
Yeah.
Arnold
Okay. Where is that?
Taylor
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Arnold
Oh. Is that… Okay. Okay. And what's your phone number down there bud?
Taylor Arnold
Okay. Thank you. This statement's being taperecorded. Does this meet your approval?
Taylor
Yes.
Arnold
I'm taking this statement in reference to the events that occurred on 08/20/2008; uh, and they occurred during a PRP football practice. Were you at practice that day?
Taylor
Yes sir.
Arnold
Okay. Please describe the events of August 20, 2008 from the beginning to the end of practice. What I mean by that is just tell me what, how practice started and what happened through the course of the practice.
Taylor
Okay. We stretched; then we did like it's, uh, like team. Then we went and got a drink of water. Went to end indi', indi', went to individuals. After that, I got some water. Then we did individuals again. When and get water. Then we did team. Went to get some more water. That's when we ran. Uh, we ran like every day after practice. That's nothing new.
Arnold
Right.
That's pretty typical for football
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players. Taylor
Yeah.
Arnold
Okay. Uh, so how do, how are water breaks usually given? Uh, to the whole team? To individuals or to groups, or how is it…
Taylor
Play. Uh, end, end of play. Like after the first team, we do the whole team. Then, uh, we do individuals, and we do like the, each group that you in.
Arnold
Okay. So you do 'e in groups or…
Taylor
Yeah.
Arnold
…individuals. Uh, and on, on that day, how many water breaks did you take? Do you remember?
Taylor
It was probably like six or seven. No about four or five.
Arnold
About four or five? normal for a practice?
Taylor
I mean, yeah.
Arnold
Good. Uh, so you said you had a water break and then, then you all started running. What happened during that water break, after that last water break, what did practice consist of?
Taylor
Obviously running.
Arnold
And is that sprints? What do you call sprints?
Taylor
Sprints. Like…
Okay.
Is that pretty
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Arnold
Do you all call it anything else?
Taylor
No. Regular sprints.
Arnold
Sprints. Okay What are the sprints consist of?
Taylor
Uh, one up and back.
Arnold
One up and back?
Taylor
Up back; up back.
Arnold
Up back; up back. Okay. And that's sideline to sideline? Not the full length of the field, right?
Taylor
Sideline to sideline.
Arnold
Okay. And that's one?
Taylor
Uh-huh.
Arnold
Okay. Uh, and why were you guys runnin' sprints at this time?
Taylor
Uh, because people wasn't hustlin' back because…
Arnold
And did your coach say that, or everybody else say that?
Taylor
No.
Arnold
You just knew it? You just saw it, or how did, how did you know it was…
Taylor
I was, I just seen it, whatever. That happens some times, but…
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Arnold
Yeah. When you get tired, it's part of it.
Taylor
Yeah.
Arnold
Uh, what group do you run sprints in? The big guys or the little guys?
Taylor
Little guys.
Arnold
And how many did your group run, you think?
Taylor
Probably like ten. Somethin' like that.
Arnold
So around ten?
Taylor
Yeah.
Arnold
Uh, now, do you take off your pad, your helmet and your pads when you run, or do you run in full gear?
Taylor
It would probably like, it depends if it's hot that day in the morning…. If it's hot then we don't.
Arnold
Okay.
Taylor
If it's not, we run in full gear.
Arnold
So what did y'all run in that day?
Taylor
Both.
Arnold
Both? Okay. How many did you run before you had to take off some of your gear, you think?
Taylor
I think we ran like six of 'em. No, not six. Five. Half of that. Five.
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Arnold
Okay. And how many after that, then?
Taylor
Five.
Arnold
How long do you think totally you guys were runnin' sprints?
Taylor
Uh…
Arnold
I mean, it's hard to guess 'cause you don't wear a watch. I know that. But what do you…
Taylor
Uh, 12.
Arnold
Twelve what? How many total?
Taylor
How many total?
Arnold
No. No. No. How long? I mean…
Taylor
Oh. Probably like 30 minutes.
Arnold
30 minutes? Okay. Did you or anybody else on your team try to get a water break during those sprints?
Taylor
No.
Arnold
Did anybody get denied water?
Taylor
No.
Arnold
Okay. Could you see the whole team, or just your group?
Taylor
The whole team. The whole team was runnin' up. We run sprints, the whole team was up.
Arnold
Okay. So everybody lines up, and everybody
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goes over back, over back? Taylor
Like the big guys… The little guys run first, then the big guys run.
Arnold
Okay. So you just alternated, essentially?
Taylor
Yeah.
Arnold
Okay. Now, who do you know that did get ill that day?
Taylor
That did get what?
Arnold
Get ill, or get sick?
Taylor
Max and, uh, Antonio.
Arnold
Antonio? Okay. Do you know both of them, or either one of 'em?
Taylor
I know both of 'em.
Arnold
Okay. And what happened when Max got sick? In what part of the sprints was it?
Taylor
It was the very last one, I believe.
Arnold
Okay. Do you know what happened to him?
Taylor
I just seen 'im pass out.
Arnold
Okay. And what about Antonio?
Taylor
He just… He didn't pass out. He just had heavy breathing.
Arnold
What point was that?
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Taylor
Uh, like on the second to the last one that we did.
Arnold
So it was right before Max, then. And then you all stopped for that, right?
Taylor
WE stopped after Max did.
Arnold
Right. But what I'm sayin', was this… Antonio got sick before Max did. Is that correct? That's the way I understood you to tell me that.
Taylor
Yeah.
Arnold
Heavy breathing on the second to the last one, and Max passed out on the last one.
Taylor
Yeah.
Arnold
Okay. Good enough. Uh, have you personally seen anybody or heard of any, uh, teammates being injured or quitting the team?
Taylor
No.
Arnold
No one's been injured on purpose or anything like that, or…
Taylor
No.
Arnold
Has anybody influenced you in any way, uh, to withhold or change any of the facts that occurred on that day?
Taylor
No.
Arnold
Nobody's told you not to say anything or to say something specifically or anything?
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Taylor
No.
Arnold
Okay. Is everything you're telling me truthful?
Taylor
Yes sir.
Arnold
Uh, did you hear Coach… Who, who's the coach that makes, makes, that in charge of you guys are runnin'? Which coach is it?
Taylor
All of 'em.
Arnold
All of 'em.
Taylor
Uh-huh.
Arnold
Is there one that, that leads it or… Who told you guys that day you were gonna run because you were slackin' off, or because you were, uh, being lazy?
Taylor
We didn't run 'cause we were slackin' off. We were runnin' 'cause we like runnin' every day in practice.
Arnold
Right. But didn't you say that, uh… I know I wrote that somewhere. That you guys were, uh… Yeah. Were not hustling?
Taylor
Yeah. But that's part of the reason for that.
Arnold
Right. And I understand. And, and it might be condition, too.
Taylor
Yeah.
Arnold
Kill two birds in one stone. But you said that
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people were not hustling. So did, did, what did, which coach told you guys you're gonna run at that point? Taylor
Uh, I can't remember that.
Arnold
Can't remember? Okay.
Taylor
No.
Arnold
So who blew, who's blowin' the whistle when you guys took off running sprints? Who was blowin' the whistle?
Taylor
Coach Stenson, like always.
Arnold
He does that every day, then?
Taylor
Right.
Arnold
And he's the head coach, correct?
Taylor
Yes sir.
Arnold
Okay. Uh, and there other coaches… Obviously, you have a lot of other coaches out there. All the other coaches were out there, weren't they?
Taylor
Yes sir.
Arnold
Okay. Good. And when Max or Antonio, either one of 'em, fell out, or had trouble breathing, did someone go to them right away and help 'em?
Taylor
Yes sir.
Arnold
Perfect. Okay. Anything else you wanta add
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or anything else you can think of that you wanta ask me about or tell me about? Taylor
Uh, no sir.
Arnold
Okay. That will conclude this interview, and the time is now 1:08 pm.
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