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M-INT-00012370 265A-NY-280350-302-50724 10/11/2001 INTERVIEW OF MALCOLM NANCE FD-302 (Rev. 10-6-95)

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MALCOLM NANCE, born September 20. 1961. social_ security

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Personal Privacy was interviewed By bpeciai Agents regarding control number Specifically, NANCE telephoned the Federal Bureau of Investigation FBI to report that approximately one year ago, while at the Discount Gun Mart, 1510 Moreno Boulevard, San Diego, California CA, he observed two Saudi Arabian men, one of whom he believed resembled AHMED AL-NAMI, one of the deceased highjackers from United Airlines Flight number 93, that crashed in the countryside in Pennsylvania. After being advised of the identities of the interviewing agents, NANCE provided the following information: NANCE retired from the Navy approximately five months ago. Prior to retiring, NANCE was assigned as the Chief of Advanced Terrorism, Hostage Survival School, San Diego, CA. NANCE is a Navy trained Arabic linguist and is familiar with several different dialects of Arabic. NANCE is also knowledgeable about terrorist cells, and how they train and operate. On October 7,2000, approximately one week prior to the bombing of the USS Cole in Yemen, NANCE visited the Discount Gun Mart, 1510 Moreno Boulevard, San Diego, CA to use their firearms range. NANCE observed two Middle Eastern men, one older and one younger, signing in to use the range. The range is small as it only has six lanes. NANCE began to closely observe both men after hearing both men converse in Arabic and watching the younger man fire his weapon, a .22 caliber Lugar style weapon. The younger Middle Eastern man was proficient in firearms as evidenced by him completely and accurately emptying a magazine with rapid fire into the target from the twenty five yard line. This seemed odd to NANCE, as everyone else at the range was shooting slowly from a . short distance and using both hands. The younger man did not,, appear to be formally trained in firearms. Instead, he appeared to be showing off by shooting one handed, rapid fire, without taking time to breathe or aim. Yet, he was accurately hitting.the target.

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The younger man appeared to be training the older man on how to operate a firearm. NANCE repeatedly heard the younger man telling the older man to shoot faster. Both Middle Eastern men left the Discount Gun Mart around the same time as NANCE did, and he observed them getting into an older car that did not appear to be in good condition. However, NANCE could not recall the make or model but guessed that the car may have been blue. NANCE had completely forgotten about the incident. NANCE only recalled the incident when he returned to San Diego after the September 11 terrorist attacks, and was contemplating going to Discount Gun Mart. The possibility that both Middle Eastern men that NANCE had observed one year earlier may have been associated with the September 11 attacks bothered NANCE, and he told DAVID MITCHELL, telephone number 619545-4652, Chief Instructor, Navy Force Protection Officers School, about his observation one year prior. After reviewing the FBI photographs of the terrorists from the airplane highjackings on September 11, 2000, NANCE believed that the younger Middle Eastern man he observed at Discount Gun Mart resembled AHMED AL NAMI, one of the deceased highjackers from United Airlines flight 93. In retrospect, NANCE believed both Middle Eastern men were behaving and training with firearms like members of a terrorist cell. NANCE contacted the Gun Discount Mart and spoke to an employee who told him the store retains sign in sheets for the firearms range for approximately one year. NANCE described the younger Middle Eastern man in his twenties, between 57" and 5'9", weighing 150-160 pounds, clean shaven, a good looking guy, almost "a pretty boy." At the time, the younger man was dressed in western style clothing. The younger Middle Eastern man was speaking Arabic in a Gulf dialect, which is spoken in Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates. The older man was in his forties, approximately 5'6" tall, stocky build, clean shaven, black hair that was turning gray, and he spoke Arabic with a Lebanese dialect. The older man was wearing a collar shirt over a t-shirt with cartoon characters in purple and pink that advertised a discount cigarette store in Las Vegas, Nevada. NANCE remembered the t-shirt because the FBI had [PDF page 2] FD-302a (Rev. 10-6-95)

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On September 28, 2001, Cheryl Hardin, Assistant Manager, Wal-Mart Discount Department Store! 1. \s interviewed regarding information provided by Angie Brundage, a co-worker, which was captured on Information Control number SC1801. On 09/28/2001, Angie Brundage, cashier, Wai-Mart Discount Department Storel I \y reported that a_ , Wf\ resembled Abdul Ab Aziz Al Omari (deceased hijacker (AA Flight #1 1 ), came into her store approximately a month and a half ago, and again, circa September 12th, and on both occasions, between the times of 2:00am and 3:00am. This customer tried to use a credit card that wouldn't process and possessed an "ID" that was a plain piece of paper with his photo and his thumbprint on the back. Brundage stated that the transaction with this customer was witnessed by her Assistant Manager, Cheryl LNU, and co-worker, Scott Berringer.

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On 09/28/2001 , Cheryl Hardin, reported that approximately a month and half to two months ago, the customer in question, who resembled Abdul Aziz Al Omari, came into Wal-Mart store, with a white female and a small child. Hardin recalled that the white female was named "Debbie" NFI, very heavy set, and with brown shoulder length hair. Based on the white female's appearance and / manner, Hardin opined that the white female was a "prostitute". The male child with this white female appeared to be bi-racial. On this occasion, the customer attempted to purchase approximately $800.00 worth of goods, to include a shotgun, a rifle, and a night-vision scope for the rifle. The customer tried , to pay with a personal check, which did not process, and then/tried to pay with a credit card, which also did not process. Hardin described the customer in question, as a male, in his mid 20's, 5'8" to 5'9", thin build, and weighing approximately 150 to 160 pounds. To her recollection, he was from the/Bay area. Hardin also recalled that this customer mentioned that he worked for the airlines in a maintenance capacity. . .

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Circa September 12, 2001, the customer in question came to the Wal-Mart store again, by himself, and attempted to purchase a shotgun and a night-vision scope. He was told that there would be a three day waiting period, after a firearm was purchased, before delivery. He also provided a credit card which did not process. Hardin stated that the customer became upset because of the three day waiting period and the fact that his credit card would not process, again. He again mentioned that he worked for an airline company and he had money.

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M-INT-00101395 265A-NY-280350-302-84899 11/28/2001 ALLEN,LYNN 11/30/2001 On November 28, 2001, the investigating Agent was telephonically contacted by Lynn Allen, white male, date of birth 9/11 Personal Privacy

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following information: Allen advised that on approximately April 26 or 27 of 2000, he was on a business trip. He was working for another company at that time. Allen stated that he was either on a flight from Las Vegas to Reno or on a flight from Reno to Las Vegas. He believed he was on a Southwest Airline's flight in that they are the only airlines that offers direct flights between these two cities. During this flight, he sat next to an individual who he believed looked like the subject, Mohammad Atta. Allen advised that he has seen pictures of Atta, via the news media. This individual appeared to be in his mid 40s and of Middle Eastern descent. However, Allen noted that he did not seem to have much of an accent indicating he was from the Middle East. Allen explained that this individual was well spoken in the English language. Allen also noted that the individual was well dressed and may have been wearing a sports jacket. He was also clean shaven. Allen stated that they had a general conversation during the flight and during the course of the general conversation, this individual brought up the subject of how easy it would be to hijack a plane. Allen stated that he responded that the airline industry in the United States had not had any significant hijackings since the 1970s and pointed out the fact that it would be difficult to get a firearm on a plane with all the precautions that are taken. Allen noted that this individual responded by stating that an individual could get on the plane with a knife and use that in a hijacking. Allen stated that he could not recall any further details of this conversation. It was at this point that they 11/28/2001

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Additionally, he did not have a religious or theological discussion with this individual. The only thing that Allen could recall about this individual was that he was heading on to the "Bay Area" San Francisco/Oakland, California area upon landing at their destination. Allen could not recall any further details in reference to this individual or his encounter with this individual. [PDF page 2]

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