T5 B65 Gao Visa Docs 5 Of 6 Fdr- 7-23-02 Gao Interview Of Stuart Levy 807

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Prepared by: Kate Brentzel Date Prepared: 8/7/02 Reviewed by: Type reviewer name here

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Index: Type bundle index here DOC Number: 155990 DOC Library: Type library name here Job Code: 320087

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Justice Purpose

To discuss Department of Justice's interpretation of terrorism-related visa refusals and to ask Mr. Levey for more information on the Condor process

Contact Method

In-person interview

Contact Place

Department of Justice

Contact Date

July 23, 2002

Participants

Justice: Stuart Levey, Associate Deputy Attorney General, Department of Justice and Vickie Sloan, GAO Liaison; GAP: Judy McCloskey, Kate Brentzel, Gabrielle Anderson, Laverne Tharpes, and Mary Moutsos

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Record of Interview

Prepared by: Kate Brentzel Date Prepared: 8/7/02 Reviewed by: Type reviewer name here

Index: Type bundle index here DOC Number: 155990 DOC Library: Type library name here Job Code: 320087

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dfecretibri consular officer tctfe,: Post 9-11 Security Checks We asked Mr. Levey about some of the post 9-11 security checks on visa applicants. He said that the 20-day check will probably be abolished and that the Condor criteria will be updated. Homeland Security Mr. Levey commented that he does not think anyone has considered whether Homeland Security or the FBI will control the background security checks for visa applicants. When asked about judicial review for visa applicants, Mr. Levey said that this should not be a problem even if Homeland Security is tasked with doing visas. Mr. Levey said that Homeland Security needs to have more oversight over State in order to force State to change its culture and to force it to be more security minded. However, he thought that visa-issuing officers should continue to be Foreign Service officers. He made the analogy between new FSOs doing consular work and new doctors working in an emergency room - it's how you get bright people to do a demanding job for a few years at the beginning of their career path.

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