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You and your counterparts' relations on CT pre 9-11, since, today?

2. Quality of direction and guidance from your Agency? Did they have a CT Strategy? Do they? 3. How would you assess the quality of US - GoC relations on intelligence and law enforcement? 4. How would you assess the quality of information sharing from Washington and US? In the embassy (Are there redundant functions?)? From other locations? 5. GoC general organization in your area? Strengths and weaknesses? 6. Describe your role and any tasking? Process? Can you task your Agency? Others? 7. Do you provide analysis? Describe? 8. Reporting? Warning?

Ground Rules for Interviews 1. The Commission prefers that interviews be on the record, but will agree to conducting part or all of any interview off the record if requested to do so by the Canadian government representatives. 2. During the pendency of the Commission's investigation, the Commission will withhold from disclosure all information obtained in interviews. 3. In the final public report at the end of May 2004, the Commission may refer to information obtained in interviews, but will be careful not to disclose sensitive information. The Commission will give the Canadian government advance notice if it plans to include in the final public report specific information obtained from interviews with Canadian officials, and will fee giveft the Canadian government the opportunity to comment on the planned use of such information, review the final draft report (at least those parts addressing information collected during the interviews) in order to QSSOB9 the sensitivity of the information. The Commission will remove those passages identified by the Canadian government as sensitive. 4. In accordance with the Security of Information Act, Canadian officials will not disclose "special operational information" as defined in the Act.»

(If Asked) Q. Who Are These People and Why Are They Visiting Us? A. As part of its mandate to investigate the events that led to the terrorist attacks upon the United States on September 11, 2001 and to recommend policy changes that increase the safety of all Americans, the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States is sending members of its staff to consult with appropriate Canadian officials. The Commission is grateful to Canadian authorities for their cooperation and support for American and international efforts to combat international terrorism. The Commission is confident that these consultations will be helpful to its work.

SUSLO 1. You and your counterparts' relations on CT pre 9-11, since, today? 2. Quality of direction and guidance from your Agency? Did they have a CT Strategy? Do they? 3. How would you assess the quality of US - GoC relations on intelligence and law enforcement? 4. How would you assess the quality of information sharing from Washington and US? In the embassy? From other locations? 5. GoC general organization in your area? Strengths and weaknesses? 6. Describe your role and any tasking? Process? Can you task your Agency? Others? 7. Do you provide analysis? 8. Reporting? Warning?

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DCM/Political Counselor/Country Team 1. What is the GoC perception of the Terrorist threat? What is their approach to CT at home and abroad? Do you think there are any lessons for the US in their approach? 2. Nature of US - Canadian relations on CT pre-9-11, since 9-11, today? 3. What is the level of Embassy involvement on CT? 4. How would you assess the quality of the guidance/direction you receive from Washington from various agencies? 5. How would you assess the quality of the US - Canadian intelligence and law enforcement relationships? 6. How would you assess the commitment of the GoC in support of US CT efforts at home and abroad? 7. How is the border security? Has there been progress? What are our/their future concerns?

LEGAT 1. You and your counterparts' relations on CT pre 9-11, since, today? 2. Quality of direction and guidance from your Agency? Did they have a CT Strategy? Do they? 3. How would you assess the quality of US - GoC relations on intelligence and law enforcement? 4. How would you assess the quality of information sharing from Washington and US? In the embassy (Are there redundant functions?)? From other locations? 5. GoC general organization in your area? Strengths and weaknesses? 6. Describe your role and any tasking? Process? Can you task your Agency? Others? 7. Do you provide analysis? Describe? 8. Reporting? Warning?

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ATTACHED ARE DRAFT QUESTIONS FOR OUR CANADIAN INTERLOCUTORS. WE SHOULD RECEIVE QUESTIONS REGARDING TERRORIST FINANCE FROM TEAM 4. IS SUSAN SENDING US QUESTIONS FOR REGARDING IMMIGRATION? I WOULD BE GRATEFUL IF SOMEONE WOULD BRING A COPY OF THE FINAL VERSIONS OF THESE QUESTIONS TO OTTAWA FOR ME. THIS DOCUMENT IS CALLED "QUESTIONS FOR CANADA TRIP" AND IS IN THE "INTERVIEW" SUBFOLDER OF THE TEAM 2 FOLDER. THANK YOU. GORDON

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UNCLASSIFIED / COMMISSION SENSITIVE Questions for Canadian Governmental Entities PCO's Deputy Intelligence Coordinator > Who has the responsibility, authority, and accountability for counterterrorism in the Canadian government in general and Canadian intelligence in particular? > Is there is a single person with complete control (including budgetary execution) over Canadian intelligence? > Does Canada have an overall strategy for counterterrorism? > What Canadian governmental entities are involved in counterterrorism, and how is interagency coordination accomplished? u, : U',..*'. ,-,..-^ '• <. -£ ,u \t Why did Canada separate law enforcement from domestic intelligence? ft Who is responsible for warning on terrorism? Is Canadian intelligence a "learning organization?" Does the rise of transnational threats such as terrorism and proliferation necessitate fundamental changes in government organization and functioning? What is the nature of Canadian intelligence's liaison relationship with the U.S.? Canadian Customs and Revenue Agency ___. > Who in the Canadian government is responsible^fbf^radicating terrc financing, and what is the Agency's role and/Strategy jx) this? > What is the Agency's strategy for border security,-an4-hew-rfo"es the Agency balance border security with the need to ensure efficient transit of cargo? > How does the Agency cooperate with other parts of the Canadian government and particularly Canadian intelligence - concerning counterterrorism? > How does the Agency cooperate with U.S. government institutions such as the Customs Service? > How does the Agency interact with the private sector, both U.S. and Canadian? PCO's Intelligence Coordinator (Oversight) > What is the mechanism by which the Prime Minister sets priorities for Canadian intelligence, and how often are those priorities updated? > How does the Prime Minister conduct oversight of Canadian intelligence? How does the Prime Minister ensure that Canadian intelligence is devoting resources to the Prime Minister's priorities? How does Canadian intelligence perform strategic and tactical warning? What does the political leadership consider to be reasonable expectations regarding Canadian intelligence's performance? How are relations between Canadian intelligence and Parliamentary overseers handled? Does Canadian intelligence conduct lessons-learned? •

Department of Finance [WILL BE SUPPLIED BY TEAM 4 ON FRIDAY -1 TALKED TO SERENA ON THURSDAY ABOUT IT]

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UNCLASSIFIED / COMMISSION SENSITIVE CSE > How is CSE tasked, and how does CSE balance between defense and 'national' priorities? > What priority is counterterrorism for CSE? > Who conducts all-sources analysis using information acquired by CSE? > What is the relationship between CSE and other parts of the Canadian government such as Canadian intelligence? > How is CSE responding to the increasing complexity and multiplicity of telecommunications media? ^^ ^ > How does CSE cooperate with WSMs and other partners? > What laws govern CSE operations domestically? -4"A-~~-as!Uvx^-^ «J2^o^C,^^.
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Dept. of National Defense > What is DND's role in Canada's counterterrorist activities? > Are there limitations on DND's role domestically that are akin to the U.S. posse commitatus act, which limits the U.S. Department of Defense's role in domestic law enforcement? > Does the DND conduct its own analysis of counterterrorism-related intelligence information? > Is the DND's focus solely on force protection, or does it have a more 'national' focus as well? \}S> >«!> ^4 > What is DND's relationship to"*NORAD and NORTHCON^yis-a-vis the counterterrorism mission? A^u-S > What is DND's role in the warning process? ? QLeS^^k \ W^ p <4-o Pre-j'i V*^LJZ-*=> T

CSIS > Why did Canada separate law enforcement from domestic intelligence? > What priority is counterterrorism for CSIS? > Does CSIS have a strategy for counterterrorism? > Who conducts "all-source" strategic^analytfs^concerning terrorism, and does counterterrorism analysis require a distinct tradecraft? > How does CSIS conduct warning on terrorism? > What is CSIS's relationship to policymakers? > What is CSIS's relationship with the RCMP and with the rest of the Canadian national government? > What is CSIS's relationship to non-national governmental entities? > What is the nature of CSIS's cooperation with U.S. intelligence? . >

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RCMP > Why did Canada separate law enforcement from domestic intelligence? > What priority is counterterrorism for the RCMP? > Does the RCMP have a strategy for counterterrorism? > Does the RCMP conduct strategic analysis, and if so, how? What is the history of the RCMP's intelligence unit, including why the RCMP recently reconstituted it?

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UNCLASSIFIED / COMMISSION SENSITIVE > What is RCMP's relationship with CSIS and with the rest of the Canadian national government? > In the U.S., there is a debate about whether the FBI's law enforcement culture and posture can be changed to a more prevention-oriented culture; does the RCMP face similar questions regarding its law-enforcement-oriented culture? > What is the RCMP's relationship to non-national governmental entities? > What is the nature of the RCMP's cooperation with U.S. law enforcement? •

Security Intelligence Review Committee > What is the Committee's jurisdiction and history, and what are the rules for membership? What staff support does the Committee receive? > How does the Committee relate to other committees with jurisdiction over parts of the Canadian government concerned with national and homeland security? > What are the mechanisms by which the Committee conducts oversight of the Canadian intelligence apparatus? > What influence does the Committee have over Canadian intelligence's counterterrorism activities? > How is the effectiveness of Parliamentary oversight of intelligence measured?

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Foreign Affairs (Security and Intelligence Bureau) > Does Foreign Affairs conduct its own strategic analysis of terrorism? > Does Foreign Affairs task Canadian intelligence for support, and how does it evaluate the support it repeives? , c ,\ _ ,j ^^^> j - i * £«\k?i^- \>^r?^<&r** y. ®H^c^.<=^«-t^vv*A*^^cxQp~^^ > Afe diplomats EaskecTas collectors by Canadian intelligence? 0 > What is Foreign Affairs' role in warning on terrorism? > Does Foreign Affairs have a relationship with the U.S. State Department's Bureau of Intelligence and Research and/or Ambassador-at-Large for Counterterrorism? f

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Canadian Immigration and Citizenship >• Please provide an overview of Canadian immigration programs that are the most likely portals for terrorists to enter Canada. > Does Canada have a terrorist watchlist, and what is that watchlist's relationship to the U.S. government's watchlist? > What is your relationship with CSIS and the RCMP? > What is the nature of your relationship with the U.S. Dept. of Homeland Security on immigration issues? > Is law enforcement allowed to investigate immigration violations, or are law enforcement and immigration enforcement kept separate - as in the U.S.?

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Proposed Questions from Team 4 for Team 2 Meeting with Department of Finance, Drafted September 26, 2003 1. 2.

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To what extent, if any, is Al Qaeda raising funds in Canada today? Has this fundraising decreased/increased since 9/11? Why or why not? Before 9/11 how much of a focus on terrorist financing was there at the Department of Finance? a. Specific entities or programs dedicated to terror finance (either in Finance or elsewhere)? b. Examples of specific pre-9/11 disruptions/prosecutions regarding terrorist finance? Since 9/11 what has changed with respect to counter-terrorist financing efforts? Pre 9/11 was the Department of Finance involved in the process to set counter terrorist policy? Post 9/11? What is the process by which Canada can freeze assets of a terrorist entity? a. Level of proof necessary? b. Ability to use classified information? c. Any legal challenges? d. What is your view of the US process to designate entities for asset freezes? What legal tools exist in Canada to ensure that its financial system is not used to move terrorist funds? a. How does Canada regulate charities to prevent the funding of terrorist organizations? Mosques? b. How does Canada regulate hawala and other informal value transfer mechanisms? Does the Department of Finance believe international efforts to stem terrorist financing, such as through FATF, Egmont Group, UN Counter-Terrorism Committee etc., are effective? How can they be improved? Are you satisfied with the level of cooperation between the USG and Canada on counter-terrorist financing? a. What can the US do to make it easier for you to cooperate with the US in tracking or disrupting terrorist financing?

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UNCLASSIFIED / COMMISSION SENSITIVE Questions for Canadian Governmental Entities PCO's Deputy Intelligence Coordinator > Who has the responsibility, authority, and accountability for counterterrorism in the Canadian government in general and Canadian intelligence in particular?

Is there is a single person with complete control (including budgetary execution) over Canadian intelligence?

> Does GOC have an overall strategy for counterterrorism? What Canadian governmental entities are involved in counterterrorism, and how is interagency coordination accomplished? Which are responsible for intelligence on terrorism? > Why did Canada separate law enforcement from domestic intelligence? > Who is responsible for warning on terrorism? > Is Canadian intelligence a "learning organization?" > Does the rise of transnational threats such as terrorism and proliferation necessitate fundamental changes in government organization and functioning?

> What is the nature of Canadian intelligence's liaison relationship with the U.S.?

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UNCLASSIFIED / COMMISSION SENSITIVE Questions for Canadian Governmental Entities PCO's Intelligence Coordinator (Oversight) > What is the mechanism by which the Prime Minister sets priorities for Canadian intelligence, and how often are those priorities updated?

> How does the Prime Minister conduct oversight of Canadian intelligence?

> How does the Prime Minister ensure that Canadian intelligence is devoting resources to the Prime Minister's priorities? How does Canadian intelligence perform strategic and tactical warning?

> What does the political leadership consider to be reasonable expectations regarding Canadian intelligence's performance? How are relations between Canadian intelligence and Parliamentary overseers handled? > Does Canadian intelligence conduct lessons-learned? > Issues with privacy and civil liberties?

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UNCLASSIFIED / COMMISSION SENSITIVE Questions for Canadian Governmental Entities •

Canadian Customs and Revenue Agency > Who in the Canadian government is responsible for eradicating terrorist financing, and what is the Agency's role and strategy for this?

> What is the Agency's strategy for border security, and how does the Agency balance border security with the need to ensure efficient transit of cargo? > How does the Agency cooperate with other parts of the Canadian government and particularly Canadian intelligence - concerning counterterrorism? > How does the Agency cooperate with U.S. government institutions such as the Customs Service? How does the Agency interact with the private sector, both U.S. and Canadian?

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UNCLASSIFIED / COMMISSION SENSITIVE Questions for Canadian Governmental Entities Department of Finance 1.

To what extent, if any, is Al Qaeda raising funds in Canada today? Has this fundraising decreased/increased since 9/11? Why or why not?

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Before 9/11 how much of a focus on terrorist financing was there at the Department of Finance? a. Specific entities or programs dedicated to terror finance (either in Finance or elsewhere)? b. Examples of specific pre-9/11 disruptions/prosecutions regarding terrorist finance?

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Since 9/11 what has changed with respect to counter-terrorist financing efforts?

4.

Pre 9/11 was the Department of Finance involved in the process to set counter terrorist policy? Post 9/11?

5.

What is the process by which Canada can freeze assets of a terrorist entity? a. Level of proof necessary? b. Ability to use classified information? c. Any legal challenges? d. What is your view of the US process to designate entities for asset freezes?

6.

What legal tools exist in Canada to ensure that its financial system is not used to move terrorist funds? a. How does Canada regulate charities to prevent the funding of terrorist organizations? Mosques? b. How does Canada regulate hawala and other informal value transfer mechanisms?

7.

Does the Department of Finance believe international efforts to stem terrorist financing, such as through FATF, Egmont Group, UN Counter-Terrorism Committee etc., are effective? How can they be improved?

8.

Are you satisfied with the level of cooperation between the USG and Canada on counter-terrorist financing? a. What can the US do to make it easier for you to cooperate with the US in tracking or disrupting terrorist financing?

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UNCLASSIFIED / COMMISSION SENSITIVE Questions for Canadian Governmental Entities CSE > How is CSE tasked, and how does CSE balance between defense and 'national' priorities?

What priority is counterterrorism for CSE?

Who conducts all-sources analysis using information acquired by CSE?

> What is the relationship between CSE and other parts of the Canadian government such as Canadian intelligence?

> How is CSE responding to the increasing complexity and multiplicity of telecommunications media?

> How does CSE cooperate with the U.S. and other partners?

> What laws govern CSE operations domestically? Information sharing with provincial and local authorities.

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UNCLASSIFIED / COMMISSION SENSITIVE Questions for Canadian Governmental Entities •

Dept. of National Defense > What is DND's role in Canada's counterterrorist activities?

> Are there limitations on DND's role domestically that are akin to the U.S. posse commitatus act, which limits the U.S. Department of Defense's role in domestic law enforcement?

> Does the DND conduct its own analysis of counterterrorism-related intelligence information?

Is the DND's focus solely on force protection, or does it have a more 'national' focus as well? > What is DND's relationship to U.S. DOD and NORAD and NORTHCOM and DHS vis-a-vis the counterterrorism mission? > What is DND's role in the warning process? > Relationship to the provinces?

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UNCLASSIFIED / COMMISSION SENSITIVE Questions for Canadian Governmental Entities CSIS > Why did Canada separate law enforcement from domestic intelligence?

> What priority is counterterrorism for CSIS?

> Does CSIS have a strategy for counterterrorism?

> Who conducts "all-source" strategic intelligence analysis concerning terrorism, and does counterterrorism analysis require a distinct tradecraft?

> How does CSIS conduct warning on terrorism?

> What is CSIS's relationship to policymakers?

> What is CSIS's relationship with the RCMP and with the rest of the Canadian national government?

> What is CSIS's relationship to non-national governmental entities?

> What is the nature of CSIS's cooperation with U.S. intelligence? > Any connection/relation to provincial and local governments?

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UNCLASSIFIED / COMMISSION SENSITIVE Questions for Canadian Governmental Entities RCMP > Why did Canada separate law enforcement from domestic intelligence?

> What priority is counterterrorism for the RCMP?

> Does the RCMP have a strategy for counterterrorism?

> Does the RCMP conduct strategic analysis, and if so, how? What is the history of the RCMP's intelligence unit, including why the RCMP recently reconstituted it?

> What is RCMP's relationship with CSIS and with the rest of the Canadian national government?

In the U.S., there is a debate about whether the FBI's law enforcement culture and posture can be changed to a more prevention-oriented culture; does the RCMP face similar questions regarding its law-enforcement-oriented culture?

> What is the RCMP's relationship to non-national governmental entities?

> What is the nature of the RCMP's cooperation with U.S. law enforcement?

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UNCLASSIFIED / COMMISSION SENSITIVE Questions for Canadian Governmental Entities Security Intelligence Review Committee > What is the Committee's jurisdiction and history, and what are the rules for membership? What staff support does the Committee receive?

How does the Committee relate to other committees with jurisdiction over parts of the Canadian government concerned with national and homeland security?

What are the mechanisms by which the Committee conducts oversight of the Canadian intelligence apparatus?

What influence does the Committee have over Canadian intelligence's counterterrorism activities? How is the effectiveness of Parliamentary oversight of intelligence measured?

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UNCLASSIFIED / COMMISSION SENSITIVE Questions for Canadian Governmental Entities •

Foreign Affairs (Security and Intelligence Bureau) > Does Foreign Affairs conduct its own strategic analysis of terrorism?

> Does Foreign Affairs task Canadian intelligence for support, and how does it evaluate the support it receives?

Do diplomats collect information for other government agencies? What is Foreign Affairs' role in warning on terrorism?

Does Foreign Affairs have a relationship with the U.S. State Department's Bureau of Intelligence and Research and/or Ambassador-at-Large for Counterterrorism?

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UNCLASSIFIED / COMMISSION SENSITIVE Questions for Canadian Governmental Entities Canadian Immigration and Citizenship > Please provide an overview of Canadian immigration programs that are the most likely portals for terrorists to enter Canada.

Does Canada have a terrorist watchlist, and what is that watchlist's relationship to the U.S. government's watchlist?

> What is your relationship with CSIS and the RCMP? What is the nature of your relationship with the U.S. Dept. of Homeland Security on immigration issues? Is law enforcement allowed to investigate immigration violations, or are law enforcement and immigration enforcement kept separate - as in the U.S.?

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Steve: (1) Kevin scheid has shared with the Canada desk (McCulla) a memo detailing lines of questioning (a) for the USG and (b) for Canadian authorities. (2) staffdel did request to visit Canadian facilities, but that is a request not a demand, it is always useful to visit with folks on their home turf, if in the view of Canadian authorities and the Embassy that is too hard, then please proceed with Privy Council meetings. (3) in a separate note, you will have seen Ground Rules, as revised in response to the Canadian counterdraft. (4) Attached please find press guidance.

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