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Posted Jan 17, 2007 @ 4:17 pm EST Preparation for evential water dunk? I like to camp, kayak and boat often. I have accidentally drown a couple of cell phones in the past. I keep my phone in waterproof containers. What about my carry gun. I want to carry it all the time especially while portaging or camping. I have a stainless J-frame revolver and a XD 45 ACP. Are there any products out there to help protect the finish and mechanics of my carry pistols if I wind up in the drink or drenched by rain? I am looking for something better than just a complete gun cleaning after water contact because it might have to wait a quite a few hours before I can break it down. Thanks Current score: 3 Rate this post Reply to: This thread | This post USMC05 285 total posts User rating: 3.01057 Send mail: - packingEmail
Posted Jan 17, 2007 @ 4:23 pm EST Pelican cases Any of the Pelican cases will suit your needs just fine. The small cases are probably your best bet. http://www.pelican.com/case_category.php?CaseSize=Small%&New=% Current score: 3.01057 Rate this post Reply to: This thread | This post Southern_Roughrider 11 total posts User rating: 3.17646 Send mail: - packingEmail
Posted Jan 17, 2007 @ 5:08 pm EST A suggestion.... A cheap, easy solution is freezer zip-loc bags. Waterproof and easier to access than a case if you need the weapon in a hurry. It's a shame that "Common Sense" isn't... Current score: 3.3925 Rate this post Reply to: This thread | This post smithy812 2 total posts User rating: 3 Send mail: - packingEmail
Posted Jan 17, 2007 @ 5:14 pm EST Beeezzz Wax! I have never done this myself but a bro-in-law sounds just like you. He is always wet. He also has a "J" frame (clone) and I think he takes it out on the PWC with him. He has always just rubbed a little beeswax around the joints and moving things and he swears that he has never had a problem. I strip cleaned it for him once a few years ago, and I was impressed how nicely it cleaned right up, the surface looked new under all that wax. He says "Just dump the water out of it, check for debris, and use it". I do not recommend this. I'm just telling you what I saw. Current score: 3 Rate this post Reply to: This thread | This post Garand_Illusion 318 total posts User rating: 4.18817 Send mail: - internet - packingEmail
Posted Jan 17, 2007 @ 5:17 pm EST
I wouldn't worry about it I'd just oil it up a little more and re-oil when I could. Guns are pretty water proof, and since you've got stainless steel it won't rust. The beeswax is an interesting idea too. I hadn't really heard of that one. I see pictures of Navy seals rising out of the water with M4 dripping water. Do soldiers take any special precautions to keep weapons dry in the field? Current score: 4.18817 Rate this post Reply to: This thread | This post greenmountainboy 411 total posts User rating: 3.05051 Send mail: - packingEmail
Posted Jan 17, 2007 @ 5:48 pm EST Not a worry Guns that never get wet are spoiled All of my guns have been at least exposed to weather and my shotgun has been submerged in the swamp on more than one occasion. I'd make sure the barrel was clear before firing, but that's the only worry I'd have in the field. You will want to give it a detailed cleaning when you get back inside, but other than that you have no worries (especially with stainless!). Current score: 3.05051 Rate this post Reply to: This thread | This post gavel45 11 total posts User rating: 2.98544 Send mail: - packingEmail
Posted Jan 17, 2007 @ 5:59 pm EST Sounds good I like the Pelican cases and will probably get a few, for more than just my guns. I usually use ziplock bags. The Bee's wax sounds good too. I will do that on my stainless revolver but not my XD Semi auto. As far as the revolver being stainless steel, I did think of that, and that is why I bought SS but what about the mechs they aren't stainless. Also, I was in the Army and did get my
weapon wet often. I oiled and cleaned the heck out of it all the time and always disassembled it after getting it wet, but I don't have that kind of time now. I can't remember if any of the parts ever got rusty, bad memory, too many brain injuries. Thanks so far for the responses. Current score: 3 Rate this post Reply to: This thread | This post gavel45 11 total posts User rating: 2.98544 Send mail: - packingEmail
Posted Jan 17, 2007 @ 6:10 pm EST RE: Not a worry greenmountainboy wrote: Guns that never get wet are spoiled All of my guns have been at least exposed to weather and my shotgun has been submerged in the swamp on more than one occasion. I'd make sure the barrel was clear before firing, but that's the only worry I'd have in the field. You will want to give it a detailed cleaning when you get back inside, but other than that you have no worries (especially with stainless!). Thanks for the response, your experiences make me feel better about getting them wet. I travel a lot and get sent to bad places by my employer and want my weapons in the best shape possible my life may depend on it. Having my revolver already kept me from being robbed once. Current score: 3 Rate this post Reply to: This thread | This post OleFart 155 total posts User rating: 3.35686 Send mail: - packingEmail
Posted Jan 17, 2007 @ 6:14 pm EST water The XD45ACP has a Melonite finish -- this is another name for the Tenifer finish that is used by Glock. This finish will not rust. (Technically it's not really a "finish"; it's a nitriding process that changes the molecular structure of the steel for a couple molecules
in depth) When and if it does get wet a cleanup and oiling that night (or even the next night) should be adequate. Current score: 3.35686 Rate this post Reply to: This thread | This post glockpacker2 453 total posts User rating: 3.30178 Send mail: - packingEmail
Posted Jan 17, 2007 @ 6:42 pm EST I have four waterproof kits... A Glock 17, a Glock 20, a Glock 27, and a Glock 30. The best of the best. Current score: 3.30178 Rate this post Reply to: This thread | This post specoperator 920 total posts User rating: 2.62078 Send mail: - packingEmail
Posted Jan 17, 2007 @ 6:44 pm EST RE: I wouldn't worry about it Garand_Illusion wrote: I'd just oil it up a little more and re-oil when I could. Guns are pretty water proof, and since you've got stainless steel it won't rust. The beeswax is an interesting idea too. I hadn't really heard of that one. I see pictures of Navy seals rising out of the water with M4 dripping water. Do soldiers take any special precautions to keep weapons dry in the field?
Lot's of silicone spray and 3 second drain of the barrel.
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Posted Jan 17, 2007 @ 8:05 pm EST RE: A suggestion.... Southern_Roughrider wrote: A cheap, easy solution is freezer zip-loc bags. Waterproof and easier to access than a case if you need the weapon in a hurry. It's a shame that "Common Sense" isn't... +1 for this method. Go ahead and oil well with a good rust resisting oil amd make sure that all internal springs get some as they will be the ones that are damaged most from "dunking" especially if in salt water. The neat thing about a freezer bag vs. a Pelican Case is the ease of access. If you need your pistol in a hurry, just punch your finger through the bag into the trigger guard and it is ready for use. The polyethelyne film will not hinder the operation and you won't have to worry about a bore full of water. If you are carrying an autoloader, you won't even have to worry about picking up brass
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Posted Jan 17, 2007 @ 9:58 pm EST Soldiers and water On the M-16, close the dust cover and we used to put condoms over the muzzle, fixed on with rubber bands. Keeps the mud and crap from going down the barrel. First shot, the gas just blows the condom right off, no worries. I still do this with my hunting rifle, in case I slip and the muzzle goes down into snow or mud. Current score: 3.05022 Rate this post Reply to: This thread | This post