Pdo - The Enemy Within

Aeroscoper 59 total posts User rating: 3.00001 Send mail: - packingEmail

Posted Dec 21, 2006 @ 3:01 am EST Wonder what my fellow PDO's think about this... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061220/ap_on_re_us/arabic_signs Thoughts? Current score: 2.88049 Rate this post Reply to: This thread | This post 2Tap 9 total posts User rating: 3.05357 Send mail: - internet - packingEmail

Posted Dec 21, 2006 @ 4:36 am EST Minor Details..... According to what I read in National Review this week, these folks are telling a bit less than the whole story about those poor imams! They were not just yanked off the flight because they were Muslims. They were removed for: praying loudly & praising Osama bin Laden prior to boarding the plane; some of them refused to sit in their assigned seats, adopting the same 2 front, 2 middle, and 2 in the back positioning believed to have been used by the 9/11 hijackers; and asking for seat belt extensions which they obviously didn't need and didn't use. Sorry, but I don't see any bigotry here. They were going out of their way to yank everyone else's chain, and got called on it....... Current score: 3.46154 Rate this post Reply to: This thread | This post shootthesheet 1333 total posts User rating: 3.31955 Send mail:

- internet - packingEmail

Posted Dec 21, 2006 @ 5:51 am EST I AGREE WITH 2Tap It is not up to non-Muslim Americans to change for Muslims. It is not up to everyone else to "understand" them. They must change to be part of the culture. I believe most Muslims have some of the basic beliefs that separate good from bad. They should reach out to the American culture to prove that and stop trying to force their beliefs and culture down our throats. It is divisive to do things like plaster these signs. The radicals that did what they did on the plane should have been condemned by the entire American Muslim community. Instead, many in that part of our culture, as well as the social engineers on the left, have adopted the tactic of "you change while we feed off your fears". I, maybe alone, will not cower. I do not try to hold anyone back or down and am not guilty of any transgression against them. They, on the other hand, have not done anything to help their position in the eyes of other Americans. No, all Muslims are not guilty for the crimes of a few. However, others associate their language and culture with terrorists because of their lack of distancing themselves from those that murder in the name of, what I assume is, a perversion of Islam. Their lack of action is making me doubt that the faith is actually not promoting violence. I wouldn't except anyone who I expect would commit or promote violence for any cause. American Muslims are not victims and I will not allow anyone to convince me they are. Reach out or shut up. Current score: 3.70318 Rate this post Reply to: This thread | This post herbstnebel2ss 1259 total posts User rating: 2.85823 Send mail: - internet - packingEmail

Posted Dec 21, 2006 @ 5:59 am EST Lets face it............ All Muslims may not be terrorists, but all terrorists have been Muslims. If it weren't for guns, we'd be British...... Current score: 3.4749 Rate this post Reply to: This thread | This post commader 45

1 total post User rating: 3.05826 Send mail: - packingEmail

Posted Dec 21, 2006 @ 7:24 am EST re enemy within Since English is the chosen language of this country everyone coming to this country should only see signs in English. The country has no official religion however all our laws and beliefs are based on Christian teachings. They are the laws we abide by not Muslim or koran teachings If they want to read signs in Arabic go to the middle east.Slowly but surely we are giving in to the left and their radical liberal ideas. I truthfully believe we will never be defeated militarily we will be defeated from within because we do what is politically correct and look the other way . We need to be ever vigilant to our freedoms and protest putting signs of any type up anywhere in the U.S.A. other than English regardless of what they say. 45 MAN #1 Current score: 3.46154 Rate this post Reply to: This thread | This post chrisjones7 270 total posts User rating: 3.45368 Send mail: - packingEmail

Posted Dec 21, 2006 @ 9:27 am EST What ever happened to common sense? The old saying is "if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck then its probably a duck" right? Well here its "if it acts like a terrorist and talks like a terrorist, its probably a terrorist, but we cant say anything about that because its bigotry." Man please if you act weird on a plan being black, white, yellow, red, brown, green , purple your butt needs to be yanked period. This nation is going down in flames of political correctness. Why cant we say what things really are. Sometimes peoples feelings are going to get hurt but we are all big people and should be able to take it.

"Liberty means responsibility." Chris Jones Current score: 3.80026 Rate this post Reply to: This thread | This post SIGRich 295 total posts User rating: 3.64877 Send mail: - packingEmail

Posted Dec 21, 2006 @ 9:35 am EST RE: Lets face it............ herbstnebel2ss wrote: All Muslims may not be terrorists, but all terrorists have been Muslims. If it weren't for guns, we'd be British...... If you continue to think this way, you will be caught off guard. Least you forget Tim McVeigh and Oklahoma. You can say something like this ... All Foreign born Terrorists were Radical Islamists. Not all terrorist were/are Muslims and not all terrorists are foreign. We have our own home grown brand of creeps, and the terrorists are recruiting them as well. Stay vigilante. -SigRich George Orwell was 25 years early in his prediction Current score: 3.18821 Rate this post Reply to: This thread | This post Garand_Illusion 281 total posts User rating: 4.09122 Send mail: - internet - packingEmail

Posted Dec 21, 2006 @ 10:02 am EST RE: RE: Lets face it............ SIGRich wrote: If you continue to think this way, you will be caught off guard. Least you forget Tim McVeigh and Oklahoma. Good point. In terms of signs ... I agree that English is (and should be legally) the single language of the United States. But putting signs up in foreign languages in places that foreigners come to visit is just a polite thing to do. When you're travelling in a foreign country, especially after you've been on a flight all day, seeing a sign in your own language is very comforting. I know we can't cover them all, and English is the single most important language in the world, but making an effort to be friendly is as much the American way as owning firearms. Current score: 4.09122 Rate this post Reply to: This thread | This post PoliticallyCorrectPoster 276 total posts User rating: 2.59968 Send mail: - packingEmail

Posted Dec 21, 2006 @ 10:14 am EST The enemy within..... The use of seemingly innocuous signs to slowly indoctrinate the masses to lower their guard against a sworn enemy, is quid pro quo for Left Liberal agendas. What difference does it make when a publicly posted sign of a flower means "rose",... or is the code for "bomb here" or, "this route to bombing targets? Plenty to me! But obviously not much to the grass eating Liberal puppets! Islamic Muslim doctrine dictates (from the Qur'an) that ALL faithful (Muslim) is called to world wide Jihad. NO EXCEPTIONS! Islamic teachings dictates that ALL actions are correct when furthering the Jihad cause against ALL infidels. Including "lying" to create an advantage when it is needed for victory! So,...how can ANYONE believe one word from any of their mouths?

Islamic Jihad teachings (from the Qur'an) dictate that ALL infidels when confronted in Jihad are to offer "conversion", "slavery with a tax/protection money" or "DEATH"! No exclusions, no exceptions, no mercy! The United States of America is ripe for slow indoctrination into submission. The Left Liberal Socialist program over the past 5 decades has plowed the way for such with a false sense of guilt from any thoughts of Nationalism or Patriotism. The Jihadist knows this and is taking advantage! As to the incident of the Muslim Jihadists thrown off the airplane,....besides all the praising Allah, besides the seating instigation, the FACT that 5 of the 6 immediately started negotiations with the airline for out of court settlements tells all! Now they want to use Liberalism mind set to extract money to further their Jihad cause of a world wide Islamic State. There is no negotiating with faithful followers of Islam. They have sworn to their death to eliminate all infidels from the earth. This has been going on since the fall of the Ottoman Empire! They will not stop as long as their is breathe in the last one standing, from their indoctrination from childhood. According to reports from the Mexico / USA border,...over 100,000 border violators a month are considered NON MEXICAN. This has been going on ever since 9/11. How many hundreds of thousands of these infiltrators are Jihadists, only our Government offices can really say. And they WON'T!! America is going heading towards a rude awakening. Current score: 3.61588 Rate this post Reply to: This thread | This post markand10 148 total posts User rating: 3.23794 Send mail: - internet - packingEmail

Posted Dec 21, 2006 @ 10:37 am EST Why not renounce and condem terrorism? People would probably feel more comfortable with their Muslim neighbors if said Muslims would publicly renounce and condemn terrorist acts. Do you hear a loud roar of such condemnations? No. Several reasons why. Some undoubtedly tacitly support the

terrorist cause. Others, even if they would be inclined to denounce terrorism, know they would become the target of pressure, ridicule and even terrorist acts of violence, should they take such a public position against jihad. For the "religion of peace" it would seem that taking a public stand in support of peace simply brings them violence. Current score: 3.23794 Rate this post Reply to: This thread | This post Bruce Bremer 154 total posts User rating: 3.04011 Send mail: - packingEmail

Posted Dec 21, 2006 @ 10:54 am EST RE: Why not renounce and condem terrorism? markand10 wrote: People would probably feel more comfortable with their Muslim neighbors if said Muslims would publicly renounce and condemn terrorist acts. Do you hear a loud roar of such condemnations? No. Several reasons why. Some undoubtedly tacitly support the terrorist cause. Others, even if they would be inclined to denounce terrorism, know they would become the target of pressure, ridicule and even terrorist acts of violence, should they take such a public position against jihad. For the "religion of peace" it would seem that taking a public stand in support of peace simply brings them violence. Very well said. If those who are paying for these ads wanted to accomplish something for good, have them put up signs in Arabic rejecting terrorism, telling Muslims that radical imams are duping the masses, that violence in the name of Islam is violence against Islam, etc. Current score: 3.04011 Rate this post Reply to: This thread | This post ronwill 226 total posts User rating: 3.26344 Send mail: - internet - packingEmail

Posted Dec 21, 2006 @ 10:55 am EST

Conditioning.... This is called conditioning and could set the public up for a big surprise. I don't believe the ones doing this mean any harm but, in the long run, it could actually benefit terrorists. Once the public gets used to seeing Arabic, messages could then conceivably be sent in that manner. Not all Muslims are terrorists and not all terrorists are Muslim. Remember the Oklahoma City bombing for one. Current score: 2.84943 Rate this post Reply to: This thread | This post each 68 total posts User rating: 3.02679 Send mail: - packingEmail

Posted Dec 21, 2006 @ 2:02 pm EST Musliams The problem with Muslims and their religion is that the Koran teaches that anyone not a Muslim is an infidel and worthy of death. Their religion also teaches that the only way the can be certain of going to their heaven is by becoming a martyr, so it is no wonder they do not mind blowing themselves up. some of them may be ignorant to this fact just as not every one that calls themselves Christian know what the bible teaches. Never the less the Muslim religion is not a "peaceful religion." Current score: 3.02679 Rate this post Reply to: This thread | This post taepo 422 total posts User rating: 3.18788 Send mail: - packingEmail

Posted Dec 21, 2006 @ 3:23 pm EST Just my 2 cents... Any religion that must rely on coercion for converts rather than leading by living an exemplary life is not worth anything in my book. I refuse to believe any God really wants us to kill other than in direct self-defense of our lives. Period. That's why I carry and try to avoid trouble rather than cause it. Current score: 3.18788 Rate this post

Reply to: This thread | This post Pramunitus 222 total posts User rating: 3.12869 Send mail: - packingEmail

Posted Dec 21, 2006 @ 4:11 pm EST Here's a case for reciprocity. What do you suppose the response would be if a group of Roman Catholics went to Saudi Arabia and made reciprocal demands there? I'm all for turning the other cheek and making foreigners feel comfortable in the United States, but they shouldn't be asking for concessions not granted English-speaking Americans who travel to the Mideast. When Americans travel to Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Iran, etc., we're forced to follow their laws, their customs, and not incite trouble. Muslims (even homegrown ones) should expect no less, and certainly no more, when they are on US soil. Got Gun? www.IowaCarry.org/ Current score: 3.12869 Rate this post Reply to: This thread | This post ronwill 226 total posts User rating: 3.26344 Send mail: - internet - packingEmail

Posted Dec 21, 2006 @ 5:36 pm EST RE: Musliams each wrote: The problem with Muslims and their religion is that the Koran teaches that anyone not a Muslim is an infidel and worthy of death. Their religion also teaches that the only way the can be certain of going to their heaven is by becoming a martyr, so it is no wonder they do not mind blowing themselves up. some of them may be ignorant to this fact just as not every one that calls themselves Christian know what the bible teaches. Never the less the Muslim religion is not a "peaceful religion."

I don't know where you got your information from, but wishing to know my "enemy" I actually read the Koran and it doesn't teach violence. Extremists take bits and pieces to make it say what they want and use that as their reasoning for their actions. Many Christian offshoots do the same thing to the Bible, Waco is one example. To hate someone because of their religion is the same as being hated because you carry a gun. Current score: 3.31628 Rate this post Reply to: This thread | This post THEHARDWAY 227 total posts User rating: 3.51097 Send mail: - internet - packingEmail

Posted Dec 21, 2006 @ 11:34 pm EST au contraire......... the koran teaches that there are three things a muslim is to do when he meets a non muslim.. he must convert him. if he can not convert him, he will take the non muslim as his servant/slave. if the non muslim does not submit to slavery, the muslim must kill him. that is in the koran. convert, enslave, or murder.