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ELECTRONIC VOICE: Twelve hours, 30 minutes, 20 seconds. (Beep.) Twelve hours, 30 minutes, 25 seconds. (Beep.) Twelve hours, 30 minutes, 30 seconds. (Beep.) (Dialing.) FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Swordfish aircraft calling Huntress, say again call sign. MALE SPEAKER 1: Huntress ID, this is Swordfish 21. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Swordfish 21, this is Huntress. Go ahead. MALE SPEAKER 1: Huntress ID, Sw9rdfish 21, roger. Request (inaudible) mode 3, squawking 4651. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: okay. 4651. Irm sorry, Mo. Here. FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
Swordfish 21, this is
Huntress. MALE SPEAKER 1: Okay, Swordfish 21, go ahead. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Yes, sir. (inaudible) code to (inaudible) 1490, copy. MALE SPEAKER 1: Huntress ID, this is Swordfish 21, roger copy. All those codes are (inaudible), and thanks for the help there. 21 out. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: You have a good flight, sir. Huntress out. (Dial tone, dialing, ringing.) FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Can you write down Swordfish 21 on the board for me? BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER:
Yes.
(Dial tone, dialing, busy signal.) BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: (inaudible) New York's (inaudible). Page 1
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Ch7lD20pDRMlDAT220031219[1] FEMALE SPEAKER 1: That's not me; that's Shelly.
codes. there.
(Dial tone, dialing.) FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Swordfish 21, there's his Just write 'em down. (Busy signal.) BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: Right here? FEMALE SPEAKER 1: No, his codes are right up BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER:
Oh, Okay.
(Dial tone, dialing, busy signal.)
now.
FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Son of a Bitch. (Dial tone, dialing, busy signal.) FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Their line's busy right I'm still trying.
(Dial tone, dialing, busy signal.) (Dial tone, dialing, busy signal.) FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Huntress ID, (inaudible), can I help you?
Yes, Sergeant pivits. First How are you doing this
MALE SPEAKER 2 Air Force Public Affairs
morning?
FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Just fine, how are you? MALE SPEAKER 2: I know you guys are pretty busy up there. I've got two quick questions for you. FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
Okay.
MALE SPEAKER 2: okay, we just got a phone call from -- from Operations saying that there's a possible hijack out of Boston. FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
Right.
MALE SPEAKER 2: Is -- do you know if this guy's -- is he squawking hijack? Is he squawking (inaudible)? FEMALE SPEAKER 1: um, no, he's not squawking anything right now. MALE SPEAKER 2:
Okay.
FEMALE SPEAKER 1: He's a primary target only, is what Boston went ahead and tpld us. All we've got is the flight level altitude on him. MALE SPEAKER 2:
Okay.
FEMALE SPEAKER 1: We're -- I guess the pilot's having a -- having a hard time in the cockpit, and the code's haven't been squawking. MALE SPEAKER 2: okay. So he's squawking no codes, whatsoever. FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
Right.
MALE SPEAKER 2: And he's going 19 -FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
I'm sorry?
MALE SPEAKER 2: what hit -- wait a minute, a plane just hit -- a plane hit the world Trade Center. I just saw that on the news. I hope that's not the same plane. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: A plane just hit the world Trade Center? MALE SPEAKER 2: Yeah. FEMALE SPEAKER 1 it's on the news? MALE SPEAKER 2: And it may be a 737. FEMALE SPEAKER 1 A 737? MALE SPEAKER 2: what type of aircraft
aircraft that --
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what type aircraft is the Page 2
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Ch7lD20pDRMlpAT220031219[1] aircraft? it's a 767. First Air Force, stand by, one. I'm going to patch you tfl_£inaudible). Can you please call | 1? MALE SPEAKER 2:
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FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Right.
Bye.
MALE SPEAKER 2: All right, thank you, ma'am. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Oh, I'm sorry. MALE SPEAKER 2: Yes? j FEMALE SPEAKER 1: I |. MALE SPEAKER 2: d_h FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Y6S, Sir.
Sir?
MALE SPEAKER 2: All right, thanks. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Thank you. Bye. FEMALE SPEAKER 2: On the scope, in New York Center and get -(Dial tone.) FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
Okay.
(Dial tone.)
He doesn't have an
FEMALE SPEAKER 2: altitude (inaudible).
FEMALE SPEAKER 1: No, we didn't. Boston's still busy. (Dial tone, dialing.) FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Fucking hell. (Ringing.) MALE SPEAKER 3: Scoggins, CMU, Boston. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Boston, Huntress. Reference on American 11.
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FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Do you have a tail number on him, sir? MALE SPEAKER 3: Excuse me? Do you have a tail number FEMALE SPEAKER on him, sir? MALE SPEAKER 3: A tail number? FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
Yes, Sir.
MALE SPEAKER 3: Do we — by any chance, on American Airlines, do we have a tail number, a November number on it? Can we get that, call American, see if they know what it is? we'll get that information for you. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: copy that. Thank you, si r. MALE SPEAKER 3: And the last hit we had, he was about eight miles south speed miles east of JFK, and he was tracking — FEMALE SPEAKER 1: DO you have -MALE SPEAKER 3: -- southwest bound. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Do you have any -- are you still seeing him on your scope — MALE SPEAKER 3: NO. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: — at all?
MALE SPEAKER 3: No, we've lost everything. You'd have to probably talk to New York. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: All right. MALE SPEAKER 3: We don't have anything on him anymore. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Do you have a direct number for New York Military that I can call, please, Page 3
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line number. They were going to !ca\ll us -- they're calling for a tail number, but (ilnaudible) have to call American Airlines. i \E SPEAKER 3: I have a\direct number. don't have their DSN number. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: okay, what's the direct number, sir? MALE SPEAKER 3: FEMALE SPEAKER MALE SPEAKER 3: FEMALE SPEAKER MALE SPEAKER 3: FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
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Thank you, sir. I appreciate itJt MALE SPEAKER 3: Okay. And what do -- what
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number do you want me to call in order to give you the intel on that tail number? j FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
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MALE SPEAKER 3: Okay, hold on. if you want to stay on the line, he's on the line with American right now, if you want to hold on a second.
FEMALE SPEAKER 1: okay, I'll hold on.
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Okay.
FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Mo, come here. There's the number. He's giving me the tail number for American. They're on the line right now. But there's the number for New York, if you want to call them, use the black phone. That's the one that works. FEMALE SPEAKER 2: That's the one -- that's the -FEMALE SPEAKER 1: The black phone's the one that works. MALE SPEAKER 3: Hello? FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
Yes, sir.
BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER the world Trade center. BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER way. Did he? Seriously? BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER (inaudible) --
(Inaudible) -- hit
Could you - - n o
It's on CNN
FEMALE SPEAKER 1: The world Trade Center? MALE SPEAKER 3: Yeah, he crashed into the world Trade center. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: That is the aircraft that crashed into the world Trade Center? MALE SPEAKER 3: Yup. Disregard the -disregard the tail number. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Disregard the tail number. He did crash into the world Trade Center. MALE SPEAKER 3: That's what we believe, yes. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Copy that. Thank you, si r. MALE SPEAKER 3: Yup. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: It's Boston. MALE SPEAKER '. urn, do you want
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on the line? FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
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Ch7lD20pDRMlDAT220031219[1] MALE SPEAKER 3: Okay.
FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Does anybody want to talk -- here, plug. He's on the line with me. MALE SPEAKER 3:
Yeah?
FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Go ahead. FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Sir, Sergeant Dooley here. We need to have -- are you giving confirmation that -MALE SPEAKER 3: No. FEMALE SPEAKER 2: -MALE SPEAKER 3: No.
American 11 was --
FEMALE SPEAKER 2: -- the one -MALE SPEAKER 3: No, we're not going to confirm that at this time, We just know an aircraft has crashed in, and -FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Are you -- are -- can you say -- is anyone up there tracking primary on this guy's (inaudible)? MALE SPEAKER 3: No. We had -- the last that we had was about 15 miles east of JFK, or eight miles east of JFK was our last primary hit. He did slow down in speed, the primary that we had, it slowed down below -- down to 300 knots. FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
Okay.
MALE SPEAKER 3: But that was the last thing we had on him. FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Okay. MALE SPEAKER 3: And --
FEMALE SPEAKER 2: And then you lost him. MALE SPEAKER 3: Yeah, and then we lost him. we did have some confirmation from New York Center he was at 29, but -- hold on a second. FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
Okay.
BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: The tail number's 334-alpha (inaudible). MALE SPEAKER 3: okay. The tail number is 3 -- 334 -FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
number? number.
334 --
MALE SPEAKER 3: -- alpha-alpha. FEMALE SPEAKER 2: -- alpha-alpha. Tail MALE SPEAKER 3: November. FEMALE SPEAKER 2: November 334-alpha-alpha. MALE SPEAKER 3: Alpha. That's the tail
FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Okay. All right. Do you -- you wouldn't happen to have souls onboard, would you? MALE SPEAKER 3: I might have that. Stand by. Do we have souls onboard? Do we have souls onboard? I don't -- I don't know if we have that information. FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Okay. Okay, if possible, if you guys do find that, it's very important that we have that, souls onboard, urn -MALE SPEAKER 3:
Okay.
FEMALE SPEAKER 2: -- could you call us back? MALE SPEAKER 3: Souls 9nboard, we'll try to get that from American Airlines, if we can. Page 5
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Okay, thank you. MALE SPEAKER 3: Okay, and -FEMALE SPEAKER 2: All right, we'd -MALE SPEAKER 3: --what's the number? need to get the last four. got | I \]
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This is Sergeant Dooley. Sergeant Dooley. Okay.
Thank you, FEMALE SPEAKER 2 : Okay, sir. Thank you. MALE SPEAKER 3: Bye. FEMALE SPEAKER 2 : Huntress ID, sergeant Dooley, may I help you? MALE SPEAKER 3: Yes, Sergeant Dooley, Coll in
Scoggins again, from Boston Center. FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Yes, sir. MALE SPEAKER 3: Talked to American Airlines. The dispatch I was talking to was unable to give me that at this time, because they've been locked out of the computer — FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
Okay.
MALE SPEAKER 3: -- due to some reason. There is a conference call. But I did give them your telephone number and your name, and told them to pass the information on souls onboard when he gets the opportunity. FEMALE SPEAKER 2: I appreciate your help, si r. MALE SPEAKER 3: Okay? FEMALE SPEAKER 2 : Thank you. MALE SPEAKER 3: All right. FEMALE SPEAKER 2 : Bye. FEMALE SPEAKER 2 : Huntress ID,
sergeant MALE SPEAKER 2: Yeah, it's First Air Force, Sergeant Divits. We just confirmed, from down here, that that was one and the same, the hijack and the plane hitting the building. Dooley, may I help you?
FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
First Air Force
confirmation, one and the same, American Airlines in -into the World Trade center, copy? is that what you said? sir? MALE SPEAKER 2: That's copy, yes. it came from, uh -FEMALE SPEAKER 2: came from whom? MALE SPEAKER 2: From First Air Force. Let me get the -- let me get the person's name. Hold on. FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Thank you. MALE SPEAKER 2: So we can get the official -- hold on. Okay. Don Deskins. FEMALE SPEAKER 2: okay, thank you. (inaudible.) MALE SPEAKER 2: (inaudible.) FEMALE SPEAKER 2: (inaudible.) FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Huntress ID, Sergeant Dooley, may I help you? MALE SPEAKER 3: Yes, Coll in Scoggins, ac Boston Center. We just had a report of a second aircraft hitting the Trade Center. Page 6
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2: A second aircraft hitting the Trade Center. MALE SPEAKER 3: That is correct. And I don't know what you all need to do, but if I were you, I'd start putting people on standby, as far as those -the fighters at Otis. That's my recommendation, when he said the second aircraft hit, we're going to ground all our aircraft. FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Second aircraft hit. They're grounding all aircraft at this time, Boston Center. They want you guys to put your fighters on standby, or whatever. Okay, sir, can you confirm tail number and type aircraft of that second aircraft? MALE SPEAKER 3: Second aircraft? Can't confirm anything yet. I don't know where it came from. FEMALE SPEAKER 2: United Airlines, copy? Is that what you said? MALE SPEAKER 3 FEMALE SPEAKER
else?
MALE SPEAKER 3: FEMALE SPEAKER MALE SPEAKER 3 FEMALE SPEAKER
updated, sir?
MALE SPEAKER 3 FEMALE SPEAKER MALE SPEAKER 4 Jenning, unsecure line. MALE SPEAKER
how1re you doing? MALE SPEAKER 4: MALE SPEAKER 5: MALE SPEAKER 4: the battlecab right now. MALE SPEAKER 5:
I didn't say anything yet. Okay. Are you (inaudible) somebody
: Okay, thank you. Okay. And -: I -- could you keep us Yes, I will. :
Thank you.
Huntress ID, Sergeant Yeah, it' ^Sergeant Zubon, Not too bad, Joe. YOU guys watching the news? Yeah, they've got it on in Oh, do they?
MALE SPEAKER 4:
Yeah.
MALE SPEAKER 5:
Not yet?
MALE SPEAKER 5: Yeah, I wasn't sure. I've been watching it for about ten minutes, and I said, "I wonder if they're -- did they suspend the exercise?" MALE SPEAKER 4: Not at this time, no. MALE SPEAKER 4: But I think they're going to. I don't know. (Laughing.) MALE SPEAKER 5: Yeah, I would imagine. MALE SPEAKER 4: Things look pretty horrific
out there, so -MALE MALE MALE MALE
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uh, Sergeant Dooley there? Yeah, she's kind of tied up right now. Can she call you back, or -MALE SPEAKER 5: Yeah, just -- well, actually, I'll -- I'll call her back. MALE SPEAKER 4: Yeah, why don't you give her about -MALE SPEAKER 5: (inaudible) -MALE SPEAKER 4: -- maybe a half hour. MALE SPEAKER 5: -- the other day. MALE SPEAKER 4: Oh, okay. Page 7
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Ch7lD20pDRMlDAT220031219[l] 25 MALE SPEAKER 5: Alrighty. 0018 1 MALE SPEAKER 4: Yeah, give her about a half 2 hour, Joe. MALE SPEAKER 5: All 3 4 MALE SPEAKER 4: Okay, then. MALE SPEAKER 5: Alrighty. 5 MALE SPEAKER 4: Thanks. Bye-bye. 6 7 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Any radio (inaudible)? ^ 8 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Huntress ID, (inaudible), 9 can I help you? 10 11 MALE SPEAKER 3: Scoggins, Military, Bost9n 12 Center. I just got a report that American 11 is still in the air, and it's on its way towards -- heading 13 14 toward Washington. 15 rfj^eS^T*- FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay, American 11 is still in the ai r? 16 17 MALE SPEAKER 3: Yes. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: On its way towards 18 I Washington? 19 MALE SPEAKER 3: That was another -- it was 20 evidently another aircraft that hit the tower, That's 21 22 the latest report we have. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay. 23 24 MALE SPEAKER 3: I'm going to try to confirm an ID for you, but I would assume he's somewhere over 25 0019 1 either New Jersey or somewhere further south. 2 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay. So American 11 isn't the hijack at all, then, right? 3 4 MALE SPEAKER 3: No, he is a hijack. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: He -- American 11 is a 5 6 hijack. MALE SPEAKER 3: Yes. 7 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: And he's going into -8 MALE SPEAKER 3: There could be a third -9 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: -- Washington? 10 11 MALE SPEAKER 3: -- this could be a third aircraft. 12 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: it could be a third 13 14 aircraft, going on to Washington? Do you have a mode 3
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E SPEAKER 3: No mode 3. we're trying to get it. I'll^(inaudible) if I can. This is a report in from Washington center. You might want to get someone on another phone talking to Washington Center, see if they have him tracked up -FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
Copy that.
MALE SPEAKER 3: -- and then get maybe D.C. Guard or somebody up there on that, on the aircraft. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: okay. Do you have a latlong right now on it? MALE SPEAKER 3: I will try to get one. ;—-~' FEMALE SPEAKER 1: okay, copy. Thanks. (Dial tone, dialing, ringing.) MALE SPEAKER 6: Good morning, Air Station Cape cod, Lieutenant (inaudible) speaking, how may I help you? FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Oh, I'm sorry, sir, I got the wrong number. MALE SPEAKER 6: Okay. Page 8
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(Dial tone, dialing, ringing.) MALE SPEAKER 7: Washington. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Washington, Huntress, reference American 11, possible hijack. New York just called us. Do you have a mode 3 on him by any chance/ MALE SPEAKER 7: Hold on a second. That's the first I heard of that. AAL-11, let's see what we've got. Nothing's stored on American 11. Let's see if maybe it's Oil. Nope, don't have anything on him. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay, because apparently two aircraft crashed into the world Trade center, we thought one of them was American 11. _New York called us back saving it was on its way to Washington, s t i l l being a hi lack. MALT SPEAKER 7: I -- well, I've only been here about ten minutes --
12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 0021 1 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay. 2 MALE SPEAKER 7: -- so I'm not real sure 3 about what's going on with that, but we don't have 4 anything on a -FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay. 5 MALE SPEAKER 7: (Inaudible), was American 11 6 7 one of them? BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: We think SO. — 8 MALE SPEAKER 7: we think so, but we don't 9 10 know. 11 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: okay. Can you guys give 12 us a call when you (inaudible) -MALE SPEAKER 7: Yup. Soon as we get it all 13 14 sorted out, we'll talk to you. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Copy, thanks. 15 MALE SPEAKER 7: Okay, bye-bye. 16 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Bye. 17 (Telephone ringing in.) 18 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Huntress ID, (inaudible), 19 20 can I help you? MALE SPEAKER 3: Yes, Collins Scoggins, 21 22 Military, Boston. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Hi. 23 24 MALE SPEAKER 3: Yeah, you didn't get my lat25 long point, did you? 0022 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: No, I didn't get your lat1 2 long point. MALE SPEAKER 3: okay, it was -- disregard 3 4 those. I didn't want you to -- it was a VFR target, _ 5 but we do have -- we did hear from Washington that 6 there is an aircraft, they believe it's American 11. 7 and he is southwest- We" Just don't have a point. "You 8 mignt want to taiK to someone in Washington about it, 9 see if they can confirm it. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: I -- yeah, I called 10 11 Washington, and they're -- they can't confirm anything. 12 They -- they're still trying -- I guess they've changed -- they're sorting -- they're sorting crap out. 13 14 MALE SPEAKER 3: Yeah. Okay. You might -15 yeah, I don't know if they might want to alert some 16 aircraft down there, though, too. 17 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay. MALE SPEAKER 3: Just in case. 18 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: We have Langley on battle 19 20 stations right now. Page 9
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MALE SPEAKER 3: okay. All right. And, you know, keep me advised of anything else. If I hear anything more on American 11, I will let you know. we did hear something about an ELT, simultaneous EOT, so -- which means he might have crashed, too. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: A simultaneous EOT? MALE SPEAKER 3: ELT, ELT. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: ELT.
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FEMALE SPEAKER 1: All right, copy. MALE SPEAKER 3: Danny, you know anything else about American 11? Danny? Danny, you know anything else about American 11? You know anything else about American 11? Terry, what's the latest you heard on American 11? The latest on American 11, what did you hear? BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: There may be three airplanes. They're missing -- there are two confirmed, they're missing a third. MALE SPEAKER 3: They're missing a third. All right, definitely three aircraft missing. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: There are three aircraft
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(inaudible). MALE SPEAKER 3: DLT. Now, is that somewhere other than the Tower? Oh, at the Tower. Disregard. That's at the Towers. FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
Okay.
MALE SPEAKER 3: But there is a third aircraft missing. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: A third aircraft missing. MALE SPEAKER 3: Do you -- do you know the call sign of the third aircraft? BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER:
NO.
MALE SPEAKER 3: No. We don't have the call sign on the third aircraft yet. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: okay, copy that.
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American 11, heading towards y'all? MALE SPEAKER 8: Okay, hold on a second. MALE SPEAKER 8:
Hello?
FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Hi, this is Huntress ID. MALE SPEAKER 9: Huntress? Yeah, go ahead. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Yes, sir. We have fighters on battle stations and airborne also. We're trying to figure out the lat-long for the American 11. Boston gave us the heads-up and said that he was heading towards Washington. MALE SPEAKER 9: Now, where are you getting this information from on American 11? FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Boston Military.
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23 MALE SPEAKER 9: Military Desk. 24 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: And they said that they 25 were getting it from -- they were getting updates 0026 1 through Washington. 2 MALE SPEAKER 9: Not Washington center, I'm 3 sure, because American 11 is the airplane that we're 4 under the premise that has already crashed into the 5 Trade Center. 6 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Right. They said that 7 they think that American Airlines wasn't the one. 8 They're missing three aircraft. 9 MALE SPEAKER 9: All right. So right now 10 you're scrambling aircraft -11 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: That's (inaudible) we 12 already have aircraft airborne, because of the first 13 one. 14 MALE SPEAKER 9: And do you have a -- a 15 presumed target on this American 11 or anything? 16 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: No, we don't. That's why 17 they said to go ahead and call you. They said they had 18 to call Washington to figure out -- because they don't 19 have that for them, that they were getting updates 20 through you guys. I don't know who from, if -- if you 21 want to go ahead and call Boston Military -22 MALE SPEAKER 9: All right, well, I'll have 23 my military guy talk with Boston Military. And you 24 have aircraft in the air; they just need to know if we 25 need to send them somewhere, is that correct? 0027 1 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: I guess. The guy said 2 that American 11 -- he said that that was American 11, 3 99"! "9 towards Washington that was still possible 4 hijack. 5 MALE SPEAKER 9: Boston Center told you this. 6
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Yes, Sir.
MALE SPEAKER 9: Just a minute. Call the Boston Military guy and see if -FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Huntress ID, (inaudible), can I help you? MALE SPEAKER 3: Latest report. Aircraft VFR six miles southeast of the white House. ' FEMALE SPEAKER 1: six miles southeast of the white House? MALE SPEAKER 3: Yup. East -- he's moving away? Page 11
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a DVFR?
Yup.
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just know it's VFR aircraft, we're not sure who it is. if you want to hold on a second -FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay, copy. MALE SPEAKER 3: -- (inaudible) have people down there looking. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay, copy. MALE SPEAKER 3: where was that position? Six, southwest. Six, southwest of the White House, deviating away. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Deviating away. You don't have a type aircraft, and you don't know who he is. MALE SPEAKER 3: Nothing. Nothing (inaudible) — FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Just a DVFR. MALE SPEAKER 3: -- and so I have no clue. Hopefully somebody in Washington would have a -- better information for you. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay. MALE SPEAKER 3: Is this a good number to keep calling? FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Yeah, this is a great number to keep calling. MALE SPEAKER 3: okay, all right. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Washington -- okay, so it's six miles -- you guys have him on primary target 0029 1 only? 2 MALE SPEAKER 3: we just had a tel-com. we 3 don't have any target at all up here, we're just on a 4 tel-com. we gust heard that and wanted to make sure 5 you got that information. 6 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: okay. Can you do me a 7 favor and go ahead and fill Bo- -- I mean, Washington 8 on this? 9 MALE SPEAKER 3: I'll try to give them a 10 call. I don't have a number for them. 11 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: okay, I'll give you the 12 number, but -- Washington's number is 9- -13 MALE SPEAKER 3: what is it? 14 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay, they're number, DSN, 15 is 937-14
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MALE SPEAKER 3: what was New York's? FEMALE SPEAKER 1: New York's number that we've got for them is 1-631- -MALE SPEAKER 3: oh, so you don't have a DSN for them. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: No, I don't have a DSN for New York, because we have shotline. MALE SPEAKER 3: Okay. I have that already. FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
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Southwest?
MALE SPEAKER 3: Yeah, southwest. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: okay, southwest of it, the white House, was he a DVFR -- or, you don't have any codes on him, but was he an actual deviating aircraft? MALE SPEAKER 3: Well, we believe he -- I guess they believe that now he might -- he has been a deviating aircraft. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: You believe that he's a deviating aircraft. MALE SPEAKER 3:
Yeah.
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(Dial tone, dialing, ringing.) MALE SPEAKER 7: Washington. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Washington, Huntress. Boston just called us. They said that they had information about some aircraft that was six miles southwest of the white House but appear to be deviating. (Inaudible) -MALE SPEAKER 7: Boston does? FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Bost9n called and said that I'd have to get the information from you on it. They don't have the call sign for the aircraft, they don't have any codes for the aircraft. They just said that there was one that was six miles southwest of the White House. MALE SPEAKER 7: Okay. Well, Boston's airspace doesn't even come close to that. I don't know how they got that information, but we don't -- hey -okay, we -- we don't know anything about that. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay. You don't know anything about -MALE SPEAKER 7: No, we do not. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: -- that one. MALE SPEAKER 7: And it's probably just a rumor, but you might want to call National or Andrews Page 13
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or somebody like that and find out. But we don't know anything about that. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Copy, thanks. MALE SPEAKER 7: Okay, bye. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Bye.
FEMALE SPEAKER 3: -- Richman, unsecure line, how may I help you? MALE SPEAKER 3: Collins Scoggins, Boston Center Military. FEMALE SPEAKER 3:
Yes, sir.
MALE SPEAKER 3: Third aircraft, Delta 1989. FEMALE SPEAKER 3:
Okay.
FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
(inaudible) Delta 1989?
FEMALE SPEAKER 3: okay. Type aircraft? MALE SPEAKER 3: Type aircraft? FEMALE SPEAKER 3:
code? Cleveland.
Yes, sir.
MALE SPEAKER 3: Code -- can I give you the FEMALE SPEAKER 3: Yes, give me the code. MALE SPEAKER 3: 1304, presently due south of
FEMALE SPEAKER 3: Okay. Presently due south of Cleveland. MALE SPEAKER 3: Heading westbound, destination Las Vegas. FEMALE SPEAKER 3: Heading westbound, destination Las Vegas. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: And is this one a hijack, sir? MALE SPEAKER 3: We believe it is. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: You believe it is a hijack. FEMALE SPEAKER 3: Are they going to squawk hijack? MALE SPEAKER 3: I don't knpw, so -- I don't know. It's just squawking 1304 now, if you want to try to track him up. FEMALE SPEAKER 3:
Okay, I'll --
FEMALE SPEAKER 1: And the type aircraft is what, si r? MALE SPEAKER 3: Do you know the type on that Delta? Delta 1989? I think he's on there. 767. FEMALE SPEAKER 3:
767.
And --
MALE SPEAKER 3: And altitude?
FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Yes, please. MALE SPEAKER 3:
350.
FEMALE SPEAKER 3: 350, okay, copy that. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: And where -- where did he take off out of, sir? MALE SPEAKER 3:
Took off out of Boston.
FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Boston? okay. MALE SPEAKER 3: Yeah, we're going to try to get you a tail number on that, if you want to get someone up there. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: All right, copy that. FEMALE SPEAKER 3:
Copy.
FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Do you, by any chance, know souls onboard? MALE SPEAKER 3: No, we don't have that information. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: You don't have any of Page 14
Ch7lD20pDRMlDAT220031219[1] 24 that? 25 MALE SPEAKER 3: You'd have to get that from 0035 1 United -- or get that from Delta. 2 FEMALE SPEAKER 3: There he is. 3 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: copy that. Thank you, 4 sir. 5 MALE SPEAKER 3: Okay. 6 FEMALE SPEAKER 3 : DO you want me to 7 (inaudible) -8 FEMALE SPEAKER 1 : (Inaudible.) Bye. 9 FEMALE SPEAKER 3 : I'm going to make -MALE SPEAKER 3: we're going to try to get 10 11 you a tail number, okay? 12 FEMALE SPEAKER 1 Okay, thanks. MALE SPEAKER 3: All right. Bye. 13 FEMALE SPEAKER 1 14 Bye. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: okay, we've got 15 16 a Delta -17 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Huntress ID, (inaudible), 18 can I help you? MALE SPEAKER 3: Sc9ggins, Military, we just 19 20 had a report the aircraft's hit the Pentagon. I can't 21 confirm that. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Aircraft hit the Pentagon? 22 MALE SPEAKER 3: That's what we believe. You 23 24 might want to check your phone numbers there, or whatever. 25 0036 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: okay. Now, what type 1 2 aircraft hit the Pentagon, sir? MALE SPEAKER 3: we have no idea. 3 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: You have no idea? 4 MALE SPEAKER 3: No idea, it's just a report 5 6 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Copy. 7 MALE SPEAKER 3: --we just heard. 8 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Thank you, sir. 9 MALE SPEAKER 3: Okay. Bye. 10 11 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Bye. (Dial tone, dialing.) 12 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Attention (inaudible) 13 14 crew, this is ID, track bravo-089 -- classified special 15, time 1342. Repeat, bravo-089, classified special 15 16 15. 17 (Dial tone, dialing.) FEMALE SPEAKER 3: Huntress ID, Staff 18 Sergeant Richman (inaudible), how may I help you? 19 MALE SPEAKER 3: Scoggins, Military. 20 FEMALE SPEAKER 3: Yes, sir. 21 22 MALE SPEAKER 3: we believe that aircraft is a - - i s a - - i s a hijacked. 23 24 FEMALE SPEAKER 3: Yeah, we got it. The 25 Delta Airlines 89? 0037 1 MALE SPEAKER 3: Yes. FEMALE SPEAKER 3: okay, we've already made 2 it a special, which is what we do, and declared it as 3 4 MALE SPEAKER 3: we have a tail number for 5 6 you, if you want to hold. FEMALE SPEAKER 3: Okay, go ahead. Okay, go 7 8 ahead, sir. I got it.
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No, sir, we --
FEMALE SPEAKER 1: FEMALE SPEAKER 3:
No, we need it --- need it. Go ahead.
FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Go ahead. MALE SPEAKER 3: I'm standing by. (inaudible) -- I think it's November 189DL. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: November 189DL. Okay, I have another question for you, sir. MALE SPEAKER 3:
Yes.
FEMALE SPEAKER 1: You just went ahead and said there was an aircraft that hit the Pentagon? MALE SPEAKER 3: That's what we believe. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: That's what you believe? MALE SPEAKER 3: Did you confirm it? Yes, that's what we heard. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay, we're going to have to -- we'll call and we'll confirm. We'll see what we MALE SPEAKER 3: Could you please confirm that with us? FEMALE SPEAKER 1: All right, copy. Yeah, we will pass that -MALE SPEAKER 3: I don't know if that's on CNN, or whatever, but it could have been the aircraft that was near the white House there (inaudible). FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Near the white House earlier. Okay, Washington has no clue, we were calling -MALE SPEAKER 3: Washington Center? FEMALE SPEAKER 1: -- Washington Center, yes. And they don't know where you -MALE SPEAKER 3: I'll give them a call. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: -- they don't -MALE SPEAKER 3: All right. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: -- know where you guys are getting your information, so -MALE SPEAKER 3: Okay. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay. MALE SPEAKER 3: All right. Bye. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Thanks.
FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Who made (inaudible) -who made second (inaudible) unfriendly? I don't know. Fuck. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Just go ahead and make it a mess, it's okay. Make is a mess. Yeah, right there. FEMALE SPEAKER 2: (inaudible) Delta Airlines (inaudible). FEMALE SPEAKER 1: okay, Mo, the aircraft that he said was by the white House is now near the Pentagon. I don't know where the hell they're getting their info. I said Washington doesn't haye a clue, when I called Washington about it, they didn't know what the hell was going on. (Telephone n ngi ng in.) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay.
Answer.
Huntress ID, (inaudible), can I help you? MALE SPEAKER 10: Yeah, hey, Stace, it's Page 16
Ch7lD20pDRMlDAT220031219[l] 20 Grover. Listen, whenever they talk to FAA -21 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Right. 22 MALE SPEAKER 10: -- they have to get a 23 heading and speed for last positions. 24 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay. 25 MALE SPEAKER 10: Okay? 0040 1 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Heading and speed for last 2 positions. 3 MALE SPEAKER 10: Remember to tell them that. 4 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: We've -- we've been 5 telling them that, but Bost9n's the one that's been 6 passing information, (inaudible) doesn't have flight 7 plans on them, and Washington has no clue. 8 MALE SPEAKER 10: well, I know, but i'nu 9 .listening to them talk to indy.and [nflv fflik to the-ones -10 the last one they ]Ust asked 3d lor, Tl they had the guy on 11 the line, and he might have had the information. 12 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Copy. 13 MALE SPEAKER 10: Okay? 14 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Thanks. 15 MALE SPEAKER 10: Bye. 16 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Bye. 17 (Beep.) FEMALE SPEAKER 2: what is this (inaudible) 18 that's going on TV now? 19 20 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: I don't know. 21 (Dial tone.) 22 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: A23 -23 (Di al i ng.) 24 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: what the fuck is this 25 about? 0041 1 (Ringing.) FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Is that the one that 2 Washington has no fricking -3 4 MALE SPEAKER 11: (inaudible.) FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Hi, is this -- oh, I'm 5 6 sorry, I got the wrong number. 7 MALE SPEAKER 11: okay, bye-bye. (Dial tone, dialing.) 8 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Son of a bitch, okay, Mo. 9 10 Huntress ID, (inaudible), can I help you? 11 MALE SPEAKER 12: Yes, reference Delta 1989, 12 they did reach him on ACARS. 13 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: It's -14 MALE SPEAKER 12: Told him to -FEMALE SPEAKER 1: -- 1989? 15 16 MALE SPEAKER 12: Yeah, Delta 1989. 17 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay. 18 MALE SPEAKER 12: And they got him on ACARS, 19 told him to land Cleveland, and he acknowledged he 20 would land Cleveland, so he might not be a hijack. 21 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: He may not be a hijack? 22 MALE SPEAKER 12: May not be a hijack. 23 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: All right, where is -24 MALE SPEAKER 12: And his tail number is 25 November 189-Delta-November. 0042 1 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: November 189-delta2 November. MALE SPEAKER 12: Delta-November. 3 4 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: And that's Delta 1989.
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Delta 1989, yes. All right. Now, why -(inaudible.) -- why could he may not
MALE SPEAKER 12: Because he acknowledged that he would land in Cleveland. So I -FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Oh, he acknowledged he's going to land at Cleveland? MALE SPEAKER 12: Yeah, he acknowledged on ACARS. He didn't acknowledge my frequency, so we're -you know, he still could be; we're just not sure, but we -- you might want to keep tracking him and see what he's doing. I mean, if he's going down, he might actually be going down to land -FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
Okay.
MALE SPEAKER 12: -- maybe not to crash the aircraft. So we're not sure. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Copy that. MALE SPEAKER 12: Okay?
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Anyone that's giving us the information, give -(Dial tone, dialing.) FEMALE SPEAKER 2: -- American Airlines 11 -(Ringing.) FEMALE SPEAKER 2: -- and when they lost altitude on him (inaudible). FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
Okay.
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FEMALE SPEAKER 1: what was his last altitude and when did you lose position on him? MALE SPEAKER 3: I last -- we never got -- we had an ALTE report visually at 29,000 feet. Our last FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
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Okay.
FEMALE SPEAKER 2: okay, he's headed -- he's on a northbound heading right now, FAA, with -BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER:
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Would that put him in any route to -MALE SPEAKER 3: I don't know. You'd have to talk t9 Cleveland Center, I wouldn't know what direction he'd be be goin to land FEMALE SPEAKER Okay. MALE SPEAKER 3: -- in Cleveland. Okay. Cleveland is (inaudible).
FEMALE SPEAKER 2: FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Cleveland's right there.
Where is it? Cleveland's right there. Cleveland is south. Okay
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No. He's going north -No, above.
FEMALE SPEAKER 2: -- above Toledo. MALE SPEAKER 3: He's heading north. FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Yup.
MALE SPEAKER 3: You'd have to talk to someone at Cleveland Center. FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Okay, we're going to try and get them up. MALE SPEAKER 3: Okay. FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Thanks a lot for your help. MALE SPEAKER 3: All right. FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Right.
(Dial tone.) FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Yes. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER:
if we hear of
anything, Cleveland Center obviously would like us to call them back. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: (Dial tone.)
All right.
FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Did you call Cleveland? (Dialing.) FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Did you guys -Page 21
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Ch7lD20pDRMlDAT220031219[l] MALE SPEAKER 3: -- any targets (inaudible) FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
Stand by --
MALE SPEAKER 3: — (inaudible). FEMALE SPEAKER 1: -- stand by, one. MALE SPEAKER 3: (Inaudible.) FEMALE SPEAKER 1 weapons? I need somebody up here that -MALE SPEAKER 3: He's over at Kennedy. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: He's over Kennedy? who's got the fighter over Kennedy? MALE SPEAKER 3: (inaudible) 45. He's just holding over Kennedy. He wants to know what he needs to do. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: okay, what's his call sign? MALE SPEAKER 3: what's it? Panta? FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Panta's. Plug in. MALE SPEAKER 3: P-a-n-t-a, Panta 45. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: All right. Stand by, one. I'm going to let you talk to our weapons officer. MALE SPEAKER 3:
Okay.
FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Plug in there. They want t9 know -- Boston wants to know what y9u want to d9 with the F-15. He's calling them wanting to know if he's supposed to refuel, stay up there, or what. FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
ai rborne.
(inaudible) F-15,
Out of where? FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Otis. MALE SPEAKER 3: He's out of Otis, FEMALE SPEAKER out of Otis? MALE SPEAKER 3: Yeah. He's holding
over at Kennedy, waiting for directions. FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Alrighty. Stand by just a second. MALE SPEAKER 3:
Okay.
is (inaudible) down on the ground? The (inaudible) in the air, still, in our airspace? BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER:
(inaudible.)
A
lot.
PHONE MALE SPEAKER 3:
A lot?
The Other
one's being diverted, though, correct? BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: Yeah,
(inaudible)
Boston Center (inaudible). MALE SPEAKER 3: How far is, uh, JFK direct to wherever that guy is in Toledo, the Delta 1989? How many miles is that? FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Sir? MALE SPEAKER 3: Yes.
FEMALE SPEAKER 1: okay. As far as that Delta 1989, we scrambled Selfridge and Toledo. MALE SPEAKER 3: Okay, you did (inaudible)? FEMALE SPEAKER 1: We did scramble both. And whoever gets there first. MALE SPEAKER 3: okay. So is he -- are you still -- where is he tracking now? FEMALE SPEAKER 1: The one that he's tracking, he's at 30- -- hold on. I've got to fix my scope. FEMALE SPEAKER 5: Is this the same guy? FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Yeah, same guy, go ahead Page 23
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and plug in. Okay, I've got information for that F-15. Hold on. FEMALE SPEAKER 5: Okay. For the F-15, we'd like to leave him under FAA control at a loiter altitude, we want to keep him airborne. You can choose the altitude. don't --
MALE SPEAKER 3: Okay. FEMALE SPEAKER 5: Okay? And, basically, we MALE SPEAKER 3: (inaudible) in the air for
him?
FEMALE SPEAKER 5: We've got tankers in whiskey 107 right now. Does he need gas? MALE SPEAKER 3: He might need it. I'll try to confirm that. But you want to keep him in the air. FEMALE SPEAKER 5: We want to keep him in the air. we want to keep him out of the current air traffic. MALE SPEAKER 3: Yup.
FEMALE SPEAKER 5: since he's airborne, we'll leave him with you guys -MALE SPEAKER 3: okay. FEMALE SPEAKER 5: - - i n case we need him. MALE SPEAKER 3:
All right.
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No, that's fine.
FEMALE SPEAKER 5:
We'll
let
Okay?
MALE SPEAKER 3: okay. And you do have fighters scrambling on the Delta? FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Yes, sir, we do have fighters scrambling on that, on Delta Airlines, it's going to be fighters out of Selfridge and Toledo. MALE SPEAKER 3: Selfridge and Toledo (inaudible). FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Yeah. Right now it looks like he's heading back towards Cleveland. MALE SPEAKER 3: Yeah, okay. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: His flight level is at 12,000, and descending. MALE SPEAKER 3: 12,000, and he's heading into Cleveland, it appears? FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Yeah, he's -MALE SPEAKER 3:
Okay.
FEMALE SPEAKER 1: -- he's at -MALE SPEAKER 3: All right.
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BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: Delta 89? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Yes. BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: (inaudible.)
back. tell him.
FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay.
Let me call Boston
(Dial tone, dialing.) FEMALE SPEAKER 1: I'm calling Boston back to
(Ringing.) FEMALE SPEAKER 1: I'll call Boston back and tell them that (inaudible) no hijack (inaudible). MALE SPEAKER 3: Scoggins, Military. Hello? Scoggins. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Boston, Huntress. Okay --
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1989 -MALE SPEAKER 3:
Y6S.
FEMALE SPEAKER 1: -- Cleveland talked to them. They talked to the pilot. He's not declaring emergency, but they're going ahead -- I mean, a hijack -- they're going to go ahead and land him at Cleveland for precautionary measures. MALE SPEAKER 3: He's not a hijack? FEMALE SPEAKER 1: NO. MALE SPEAKER 3: Okay. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay?
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FEMALE SPEAKER 1: it's Leah. Westmoreland, Pennsylvania, sweetie, (inaudible), okay, honey? Cool. (Dial tone.) FEMALE SPEAKER 1: A3 -- okay, hold on -- A3 Mo, if I --
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House?
ELECTRONIC VOICE: Operations. FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
-- Andrews Base Yes.
ELECTRIC VOICE: Please listen carefully -FEMALE SPEAKER 1: The white House isn't -ELECTRONIC VOICE: -- as the selections have changed.
FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Andrews is right by the white House (inaudible). ELECTRONIC VOICE: (inaudible) --on the local portion of the -BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: There is nothing for Westmoreland (inaudible). FEMALE SPEAKER 1: There isn't anything? Tell Mo. BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: Sergeant oooley, there is nothing for Westmoreland. It's up north. (Dial tone, dialing.) FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
331.
(Di al i ng.) FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
Stand by.
(Dial tone, dialing, ringing.) FEMALE SPEAKER 1: All right, stand by, one. I need -- I need (inaudible). (Ringing.) FEMALE SPEAKER 1: York, Pennsylvania. MALE SPEAKER 13: Washington Center, Glenn Turner. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Washington, hi, this is Huntress. I've got a question for you. Is there any way that you have a lat-long for the white House? MALE SPEAKER 13: I don't have it at this moment, no. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Is there any way you guys could get one, or something relatively close to it? MALE SPEAKER 13: Lat and long to the White House? Okay, hold on. FEMALE SPEAKER 2: He's the one who said (inaudible). FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
Okay.
MALE SPEAKER 13: I've got Huntress on the line. They need a lat-long for the white House. Okay, you want the lat-long for the white House? FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
Yes, sir.
MALE SPEAKER 13: okay, can I have -- well, it's going to take a few minutes -- can I get it and give you a call back? FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Yeah, go ahead. MALE SPEAKER 13: okay, and I can reach you on the -- the DSCS, right, the -FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
enough,
MALE SPEAKER 13: FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
can.
Right.
-- 608 line? Okay, good Okay.
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Thanks.
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This is what?
FEMALE SPEAKER: Right. What?
FEMALE SPEAKER 6: well, New York just called and gave us some information on him, an unidentified intruder. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: okay. A 4651 code, unidentified intruder, southeast just got a call from New York Center. FEMALE SPEAKER 6: long position. FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
long, ma'am? FEMALE FEMALE FEMALE FEMALE FEMALE FEMALE FEMALE
SPEAKER SPEAKER SPEAKER SPEAKER SPEAKER SPEAKER SPEAKER
6: 1: 6: 1: 6: 1: 6:
climbing.
Right, and I got his latAll right, what's the lat-
4109. 4109. 6708.
6708, copy.
(inaudible) -Okay, I'm --- -thousand, and
FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
what's he, ma'am?
FEMALE SPEAKER 6:
He's at 15,000, and
Fifteen?
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Okay. And he's on a 4651 code. 51 code. But New York doesn't have him, and they just passed the info to us. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: All right. So y'all don't have a call sign for him, do you? FEMALE FEMALE FEMALE FEMALE
SPEAKER SPEAKER SPEAKER SPEAKER
1: 6: 1: 6:
FEMALE SPEAKER 6: FEMALE SPEAKER 1: FEMALE SPEAKER 6:
NO. Okay. That's all the info we
FEMALE FEMALE FEMALE FEMALE
Al righty. Your initials? Sierra-Rome9. Thanks. This is Romeo-
have. SPEAKER SPEAKER SPEAKER SPEAKER
1: 6: 1: 6:
Hotel
FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay. PHONE FEMALE VOICE 2: Bye. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Bye. Possible intruder, hit up that code, sweetie. Southeast got information -- Southeast got information from New York. They have an aircraft with a possible intruder. They don't have a call sign. That's the code, 4651.
0066
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thi s, now?
Slow down.
Who -- who is
FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Southeast just called us. They said that New York called them. They have an aircraft with an intruder on it, possible intruder onboard. All right? 4651 is the code, is the mode 3. That's the lat-long, right below it. FEMALE SPEAKER 2: (Inaudible) 51? FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Yeah, we're doing it -that's the lat-long, right there. Man, I -Page 27
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Okay. Yeah, we --
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Yes,
unidentified (inaudible) -(Dial tone, dialing.)
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FEMALE SPEAKER:
There he is.
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FEMALE you, Moe. FEMALE FEMALE FEMALE
SPEAKER 2: where? SPEAKER 1: On the phone. 4651. SPEAKER 2: Is it -- is it my husband?
FEMALE VOICE 7: No, it's your sister, but I'll call back, since it's such chaos. FEMALE SPEAKER 2: (inaudible.) Hello, Sergeant Dooley. FEMALE VOICE 7: Hi. It's just me. I'll call back, it sounds like chaos. FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Oh, my God, yeah (inaudible). I will call you back. All right? Bye.
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FEMALE VOICE 7: Bye.
FEMALE SPEAKER FEMALE SPEAKER DO me a favor, FEMALE SPEAKER us and (inaudible) is an
2: My sister. 1: Alrighty, stand by, one. (inaudible). 2: The one that they called intruder?
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southeast.
Yeah.
FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Well, we don't know where he's -- is that the code? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Unidentified intruder -Page 28
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is Swordfish. -- Swordfish. That is not
FEMALE SPEAKER 1 FEMALE SPEAKER 2
-- how fast is he going?
15-9.
FEMALE SPEAKER 1 FEMALE SPEAKER 2 15,000 feet -FEMALE SPEAKER 1
He's going 350 knots at
Hold on. (Dial tone.) FEMALE SPEAKER 1: All right. The lat-long that we got from New York, 4109, 0708. FEMALE SPEAKER 2: 4114 north, 06745 west. (Dial tone, dialing.) FEMALE SPEAKER 1: That's the Iat-l9ng. That's the lat-long. That's her -- that's initials. (Telephone ringing in.) FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Open line. MALE SPEAKER 3: Yeah, Uh -FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Huntress ID. MALE SPEAKER 3 -- Scoggins, Military. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Yes, sir.
up.
MALE SPEAKER 3: Yeah, we got a squawk 4651. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Yeah, we've got him pulled I've got a question. what's that all about? MALE SPEAKER 3: we don't know who it is. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: You -- huh?
MALE SPEAKER 3: we don't know who that is. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: You don't know who that is? MALE SPEAKER 3: No. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Did you get a possible -all right, he could be a possibility 9f one of our Swordfish aircraft that -- we've got information from Southeast, from Oak Grove -MALE SPEAKER 3: Yeah.
FEMALE SPEAKER 1: -- saying that New York called them, saying there was a possible intruder onboard. MALE SPEAKER 3:
Yeah.
FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
On what?
Is that what you got?
MALE SPEAKER 3: No. And what was that on?
FEMALE SPEAKER 1: On the code that you just gave me, the 4651. MALE SPEAKER 3: There's a possible intruder onboard? FEMALE SPEAKER 1: That's what the Southeast said New York told them, what information did you guys get? FEMALE SPEAKER 2: FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
Who -This is Boston.
MALE SPEAKER 3: (inaudible^) All's we know is we had "tin's" co^e 4651 that popped up. DO you nave~" Jrim t r a c k e d . ' _ " FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Yeah, we have a track on him right now. MALE SPEAKER 3: Can you put the Panta on Page 29
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FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Can we what? MALE SPEAKER 3: Can you put that F-15 in 107 on him? FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
MALE SPEAKER 3:
Okay, copy.
(inaudible) okay.
FEMALE SPEAKER 1: All right.
Stand by, one.
MALE SPEAKER 3: Okay. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Hey, B9Ston'S --
Okay, Boston, you're talking about the 4651, you want us to go ahead -MALE SPEAKER 3:
I would -- I W9Uld go
intercept and see who it is. we have no idea who that aircraft -FEMALE SPEAKER 1: You have no idea -MALE SPEAKER 3: -- (inaudible) New York (inaudible).
FEMALE SPEAKER 1: -- who that is, and you want us to intercept on him. MALE SPEAKER 3: Yes, I'd like you to intercept that target. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay. Stand by, one. MALE SPEAKER 3: I've got the lat-long for you. But you're tracking him, is that correct? FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Yeah, we're tracking him. The lat-long was -FEMALE SPEAKER 2: (inaudible) talking about? FEMALE SPEAKER 1: - - i t was 4116 north, 06759 west. MALE SPEAKER 3: That's close enough. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay, copy. MALE SPEAKER 3: Okay? FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Yes.
MALE SPEAKER 3: And the Panta -- you're going to take the Panta in that direction? FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Stand by, one, we're going to find out. MALE SPEAKER 3: if you want, we'll give you a handoff on him. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: All right, well, hold on. Okay? MALE SPEAKER 3:
Okay.
FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Real quick. MALE SPEAKER 3: Look at it going. Looked at a squawk 4651. Do you see him out there? FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Pull that squawk up. you have it? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER:
MALE SPEAKER 3:
Do
Yeah.
(inaudible) 54 squawk.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER:
He left the
track out. I don't know why. MALE SPEAKER 3:
up, Leah.
It could be the Panta 45.
FEMALE SPEAKER 1: wel1, go ahead and hit him
MALE SPEAKER 3: So you still see the Panta 45, the F-15 that we sent over earlier? FEMALE SPEAKER 1: what are we doing? MALE SPEAKER 3: That's Coast Guard 2121? Okay. All right. FEMALE SPEAKER 2: I know what he's -MALE SPEAKER 3: what's his squawk now, 4625? Page 30
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER:
Did he give
FEMALE SPEAKER 1: I'll pop up the mode. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: I'm going to
put it in one.
FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
Bravo 464.
MALE SPEAKER 3: They did, okay, we -- hold on one second, (inaudible). Nance? Nance?. .FEMALEJSPEAKER 1: Did he swap code? _ MALE SPEAKElTT:7?57~fie~lttTh—we~-tJeTTeve he's a Coast Guard 2121. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Yeah, that's what we figured he was, sir. MALE SPEAKER 3: Okay, fine. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Airighty. So he's fine. MALE SPEAKER 3: He's fine. Okay, thank you. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: All right. Thanks. MALE SPEAKER 3: All right. Bye. FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
Bye.
FEMALE SPEAKER 2: okay, listen (inaudible) 4651, another possible hijack. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: We have released that line, this is a son of a bitch. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Hold on. Grab me the -all right, where are you, honey? BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: Wrong one. 364. FEMALE SPEAKER 2: (inaudible) 51 . 51 (i naudi ble). FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Mo, what's the desk? New York's calling me back — I mean, not New York -Washington's calling me back with the lat-long for the white House, because all I have that's closest to it is Andrews, and I don't know how you want to -BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: Okay. They're calling you back? FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Yeah, they're supposed to call us back. BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: okay. Because we need (inaudible) -FEMALE SPEAKER 1: what was the freq you want? BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER:
FEMALE SPEAKER 1: (inaudible).
For --
For the Swordfish
BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER:
For you to --
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Ch7lD20pDRMlDAT220031219[1] FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Normal (inaudible) 53 -(Di al i ng.) FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Do you want me to do "unknown rider, unknown rider"? Okay, ready? okay, unknown rider, what is the hour? BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: FEMALE SPEAKER 1: what is BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER:
Huh?
the hour? (inaudible)
unknown.
FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Unknown rider, unknown rider at position 4122 north, 06839 west, this is Huntress. Authenticate AKAA283-Gulf-Kilo?. Okay. What's -- what's my thing to come back on? (Telephone ringing in.) BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Romeo? BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: (inaudible), how may I help you?
Romeo. Huntress ID
FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Am I going out? (inaudible.) BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER:
sir. Okay, diverting,
Yes -- uh, yes,
uh --
FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Am I even going out? BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: (inaudible.) And your initials, please? FEMALE SPEAKER 1: unknown rider, unknown rider at position 4123 north, 06847 west, this is Huntress. Authenticate AKAA283-Gulf-Kilo. FEMALE SPEAKER 2: who are you authenticating? FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Swordfish. Do I do "unknown rider," or do I say "Swordfish"? I was saying "unknown rider." If she's on the line, can I not use it? Swordfish 21, Swordfish 21, this is Huntress. Authenticate AKAA283-Gulf-Kilo. Huh? Grab your headset, girl. I can't do that one. I can't do that 9ne. I can't do it. I'm not getting him. What are you getting? FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Let's call (inaudible) Internet, one that it was -- they're talking about where that z-point is? FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Yeah. FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Tell him (inaudible). FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Unknown rider, unknown rider at position 4125 north, 06858 west, this is Huntress. Authenticate AKAA283-Gulf-Kilo. I can't get him. I can't get him. I'm going to get him. I'm going to get -(Dial tone, dialing, ringing.) (Dial tone, dialing, ringing.) MALE SPEAKER 3: Scoggins, Military. FEMALE SPEAKER 3: uh, yes, Mr. Scoggins, this is staff Sergeant Richman, from Huntress ID, here. MALE SPEAKER 3: yes. FEMALE VOICE 3: I need to find out if you've got any information on that 4651 code. We're trying to research it right now. I know that -MALE SPEAKER 3: That 4651, I believe, was a Coast Guard 2121. Page 32
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Okay.
BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: I am really (inaudible). FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Good. He's going home.
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Okay, HU25.
please.
FEMALE SPEAKER 3: Okay, um, we have the information on the aircraft. According to our information, he's supposed to be going back to Otis at 1030 local. — ' " MALE SPEAKER 3: okay.
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MALE SPEAKER 3: Okay. No, we are working the aircraft (inaudible) -FEMALE SPEAKER 3: You are working -MALE SPEAKER 3: -- Otis.
FEMALE SPEAKER 3:
-- the aircraft?
You're
—
MALE SPEAKER 3: ,Yes, we are_^ FEMALE SPEAKER 3 : - - TaTkfng to him, and everything is aLI set? • MALESPEAKER 3: That JS correct. FEMALE SPEAKER 3:"" Okay.—Because now I show him squawking a 4625 (inaudible) -MALE SPEAKER 3: That's correct. FEMALE SPEAKER 3: -- (inaudible). MALE SPEAKER 3: He did change codes. That's how we confi rmed who he was. FEMALE SPEAKER 3: okay. NOW, what about the 4651 code? MALE SPEAKER 3: Do you still see one out there? FEMALE SPEAKER 3: No, I haven't been --
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-- able to pick anything
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Okay.
MALE SPEAKER 3: He came over on a 4651. They had him swap to a 4625. FEMALE SPEAKER 3: Okay. MALE SPEAKER 3: Okay?
FEMALE SPEAKER 3: All right, sir.
Thank you
very much. MALE SPEAKER 3: You're welcome.
FEMALE SPEAKER 3:
MALE SPEAKER 3:
(inaudible.)
Bye.
FEMALE SPEAKER 3: Yeah. According to Boston Military, he was on a 4651 code -BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: Uh-huh.
FEMALE SPEAKER 3: -- but then they got in contact with him, had him switch to the 4625 code. (Telephone ringing in.) FEMALE SPEAKER 3: it is a Coast Guard 2121, an HU25 -FEMALE SPEAKER 2: we have another (inaudible). FEMALE SPEAKER 3: -- going back to Otis. FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Out over Kentucky (inaudible), (inaudible), look up -- (inaudible) -hold on -BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER:
can --
FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
MO?
(inaudible) as far as we
BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER:
FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
I got the book.
-- primary (inaudible).
BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER:
Okay, I got the
book for Kentucky. (whistle to get attention.) BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: Quiet down a little bit. Use the intercom. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: I'm looking it right now. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Louisville, or whatever, it's going to be right down below. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: DO we have anything on (inaudible)? All right, we've got another one that's lost (inaudible). UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: what -- what --
which one, the Coast Guard? UNIDENTIFIED
FEMALE SPEAKER:
go. You ready?
Okay, here we
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER:
Yeah, go for it
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER:
Put your
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER:
Okay, make it a
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER:
KLO?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER:
(inaudible)
(inaudible).
reference point --
Hold on.
KLOU --
wai t.
reference. That way they all know -UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Page 34
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FEMALE SPEAKER:
(inaudible.) urn, latitude
Okay. 085 085 -- -39 west. FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Talk to Munken right now and find out =who the hell that (inaudible). FEMALE FEMALE FEMALE FEMALE
SPEAKER: SPEAKER: SPEAKER: SPEAKER:
BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER:
Where?
BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: where is that? BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: Right here. BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: Do you know who they are?
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BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: Give me a lat-long. FEMALE SPEAKER 2: (inaudible), bring up the lat-long for Bill. BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: Okay, BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: (inaudible) got him on the phone right now. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: It's in two. YOU calling Canada? BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: Yeah. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Want me to -want me to go -FEMALE SPEAKER 1: (inaudible)? BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKEBj_K£ah-_ FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Yeah , | ^J.
BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER:; (Inaudible) squawk on that or — i FEMALE SPEAKER 1: On whjich one? No (inaudible). i UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: One's squawking a 2000 code, and the other one's oh straight search. BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER:
Oh, wait.
FEMALE SPEAKER 2: (inaudible) those four -yeah, we're going to have -I (Telephone ringing in.) i UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER:
Open line.
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(Dial tone, dialing.) ! UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: (Dial tone.) i UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: (inaudible). i UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER:
94? Huntress ID Unplug one.
BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER:! (Inaudible) is on the line (inaudible) type aircraft. (Telephone ringing in.) i FEMALE SPEAKER 3: Huntress ID, Staff sergeant Richman, unsecure line, how can I help you? MALE SPEAKER 14: StaffiSergeant Richman, I need to get in touch with Bill Aires immediately. FEMALE SPEAKER 3 :" ^Ok^yl
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MALE SPEAKER 14:
Okay.
UNIDENTIFIED
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What is this
pertaining to, sir? MALE SPEAKER 14: Boston Center, the building being shut down due to an airborne threat.
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FEMALE SPEAKER 3: I've got a phone call here that needs to talk to someone higher up.
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him. I don't see him anywhere around where -MALE SPEAKER 14: (inaudible.) FEMALE SPEAKER 3: I don't have any free lines now, sir. MALE SPEAKER 14: I need -- I needed to speak to someone at battle staff, a senior director, we've had an airborne threat on the building, and we're ready to evacuate Boston Center. So I need to speak to someone quick and -- just to let them know. FEMALE SPEAKER 3: We're trying to get someone right now, sir.
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UNIDENTIFIED
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Okay.
It's
Boston Center. The building's being checked out due to an airborne threat. They need to talk to somebody higher up, somebody --
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Somebody
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(inaudible). Okay, I got my MCC tech right now, sir, and he's getting somebody. MALE SPEAKER 14:
that.
Okay.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: I'm sorry about I'm just trying to get (inaudible). MALE SPEAKER 14:
Okay.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: it's been crazy here this morning. MALE SPEAKER 14: Yes (inaudible). BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: (inaudible.) BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: Make sure you put everything on speaker, Terry. BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER:
Huh?
BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: Make sure you put everything on speaker. On speaker, just in case they -- everyone leaves the building. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER:
Okay.
The DSN,
sir, 94587. MALE SPEAKER UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER UNIDENTIFIED
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Yes, sir.
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MALE SPEAKER 14:
(inaudible.)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: is Huntress on a 58 line. MALE SPEAKER 15: Yes .
Bye-bye. New York, this
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: We have a aircraft out there, Gold 99. It's a four ship. I was trying to get some amplifying data on it. MALE SPEAKER 15: Right, okay. Gold 99 is one KC-10 accompanied by six A-lOs. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Six A-lOs? Okay. Do you know what -- do you have origin and destination on them?
MALE SPEAKER 15: Lima-Echo-Mike-Oscar.
All right. The origin is
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER:
Lima-Echo- --
okay.
MALE SPEAKER 15: And destination is Bangor, Bravo-Gulf -Romeo. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: They're going
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Right, correct.
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Got it, thanks.
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FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Where is he at? UNIDENTIFIED UNIDENTIFIED talked to Jack Center. UNIDENTIFIED UNIDENTIFIED
FEMALE SPEAKER: FEMALE SPEAKER
Okay, lis listen. Okay, you
FEMALE SPEAKER: FEMALE SPEAKER:
GO ahead. West of
they said he -- it's unknown where he's going at this time. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Okay. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: SO Jacksonville can't tell us his destination. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Are they in contact with anybody, or are they just - UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Yes, they are. They're talking to Jacksonville Center. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Oh, okay. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Okay? But we just don't have a destination, if we fi nd one or if he
lands, we'll call and let you know. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER:
All right,
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thanks.
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Bye-bye. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: she's scaring the fuck out of me. FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Southeast will be controlling him. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: she just called us, I know. Okay. FEMALE SPEAKER 2: He is airborne (inaudible) west of -- yeah, he's west of Tallahassee, but an unknown destination. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: They still aren't answering, shelly. FEMALE SPEAKER 2: (inaudible) may be -- let him -FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Let him get in closer? BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: HOW far -FEMALE SPEAKER 2: (Inaudible) unknown rider. BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: HOW far -- give me bearing a bearing range for (inaudible) 53? FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Yeah, somewhere (inaudible). BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: Yeah (inaudible) 53.
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FEMALE SPEAKER 1: All right. So I'll tell Shelly that, because they're freaking.
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(inaudible). And then 54 -- 5451? FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Do we have radios for that, though? BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: I don't think SO. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: I don't think so either. (inaudible) 144. BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: They've got to get closer. BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER:
Let him get
closer. And they're supposed to call us as soon as they get in range. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: what do you need?
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Your checklist
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going to be 984. That's their -- that's their commercial -- 984, whatever number you need to dial. BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER:
Well, what's the
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commercial number.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: 253 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Oh, shit, I (inaudible) my car running outside. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Gi rl, you go. (Laughing.) FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Fucking-A, Leah. All right, find me -- I'm going brain dead, and before I flip the fuck out, can you help me find -- (inaudible) I need the Air Force mode 2. why the hell can't I find them? I'm going nuts, Lee. BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: (inaudible.) NORAD,
FEMALE SPEAKER 1: 00- -- they wouldn't be would they? I need a 06- -- 0061. BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: -- 99, Huntress on
guard, Authenticate (inaudible) 506-alpha-alpha-echo. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER:
of 54.
FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
Okay.
He's coming OUt
NOW --
what? BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER:
(inaudible) Z-point
out there. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Right.
BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: So what does that (inaudible) -FEMALE SPEAKER 1: That was -- no, no, no, that was -- why do they have a pending on it? BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: Pending is being pulled in right underneath (inaudible). FEMALE SPEAKER 1: From -- from where? Charlie? Being pulled in? BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER:
That -- yeah,
that -UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: That was the 4651 code that (inaudible). FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Alrighty. That's Swordfish 21. Okay, go ahead and drop all that crap out, and let me call their ID section real quick. (Dial tone.)
FEMALE SPEAKER 1: what's the -- what's the
number?
(Dial tone, dialing.) FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Thank you, baby.
is crazy.
Oh, this
(Dial tone, dialing, busy signal.) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER:
They can't --
they didn't get it. They couldn't -BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: That doesn't do me any good. I'm not yelling. That doesn't do me any good. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER:
She Couldn't
get it from New York. BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: (inaudible) under attack. I want to know type aircraft and call sign. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER:
that.
BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER:
Who said that?
(inaudible) said
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it.
I'll get
I'll get it. I'm sorry, Joe. I didn't know. BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER:
That's all right.
(Dial tone, dialing.) FEMALE SPEAKER 1: NO, (inaudible) not. (Dial tone, dialing.) BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER:
(Dial tone.) FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
(inaudible.)
He's right ight up then there.
BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: (inaudible) ; .... - I want aircraft type, call sign, the whole nine yards, I ain't taking no chances. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: When they call
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-- (inaudible).
(Ringing.) FEMALE SPEAKER 1: okay. Here -- I remember it better if I write it down, Leah. Yeah. MALE SPEAKER 16: 21 squadron ID, Corporal Myers. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Hi, this is Huntress, reference -MALE SPEAKER 16:
Yeah.
FEMALE SPEAKER 1: -- 0265 over by Kudas in Kings, it's on a 4342 code. Do you know who that is? MALE SPEAKER 16: okay, stand by. Okay, bring up the friendlies that (inaudible). 0265. Okay, yes, we have identified them friendly. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: All right. Do you know who he is? MALE SPEAKER 16: uh, stand by. Do we know who that (inaudible)? BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: (inaudible.) That was the one that was -FEMALE SPEAKER 1: I need to find out who it is. BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: (inaudible) New York Amos (inaudible) ID -FEMALE SPEAKER 1: How did New York identify that shit? You know they didn't. MALE SPEAKER 16: I'm getting briefed that New York gave us a confident ID on that aircraft. *
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Just to let you know, from our side -MALE SPEAKER 16: Yup. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: getting that we want -UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: MALE SPEAKER 16: Call sign? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Page 40
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aircraft. So if you guys can get that and pass it to us ahead of time — like, if you talk to New York first, just let them know we need to know everything on them, we can't take chances. MALE SPEAKER 16: Okay, then.
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let you know, we're getting, from our MCC position --
Okay?
So --
(inaudible.)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER:
-- if YOU can
find out more info on that, just give us a call. MALE SPEAKER 16: we'll give it a shot there. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Okay, thanks.
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(inaudible.)
I
don't know. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: who the hell did this? BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: I don't have an Asheville. I have an Ashland., BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER:
There is no
Asheville in here? FEMALE SPEAKER 1: There's not an airport, then. There's no airport there, so we don't know. Let's go grab it. Huh? FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Four aircraft, total. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Now, let me do this. where is Munken? what's the number for Munken? (Dial tone, dialing.) FEMALE SPEAKER 1: All right, give me -(Ringing.) FEMALE SPEAKER 1: That son of a bitch. MALE SPEAKER 17: (inaudible) Base Operations, (inaudible), may I may help you? FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Munken? MALE SPEAKER 17: Hello?
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NO, this is --
FEMALE SPEAKER 1: oh, I'm sorry. I got the wrong number. MALE SPEAKER 17: Yes, you're welcome. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Thanks.
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Bye.
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FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Who did I call? BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: (Inaudible.)
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FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Probably. Give me a bearing range. Hold on. (Ringing.) FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Fucking, they just -there's two. There's fucking two. Oh, Munken better pick up the damn phone. (Ringing.) FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Munken, pick up the phone. (Ringing.) FEMALE SPEAKER 1: (inaudible) Munken. Munken? (Ringing.) FEMALE SPEAKER 1: I understand New York being -- Boston's the only one feeding us anything. (Ringing.) BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER:
DUSt to confirm
we're talking to who we're supposed to be talking to
(inaudible). You know what I mean?
FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Who? BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER:
See, I don't know
where this is from. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Or Boston's -- no, Boston was the one feeding us all this shit. And as they were saying stuff -BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER:
(inaudible)
blowing up (inaudible).
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been killing me. No, this is what —
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This --
BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER:
this is w h a t ' s
I can't find
(inaudible). BACKGR9UND FEMALE SPEAKER: I'm looking for -- it's in the middle of Kentucky. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: They told us all about -Boston told us about the white House and the Pentagon ones. BACKGR9UND MALE SPEAKER: (inaudible) Air Force One (inaudible). FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
Sure.
BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER:
Call d9wn to
Southeast and tell them to fricking (inaudible). FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
Copy.
(Dial tone, dialing, ringing.) MALE SPEAKER 18: Oak Grove ID. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Hi, Oak Grove, this is Huntress. I'ye got a question to ask you. will you please tell (inaudible) Air Force One for information? MALE SPEAKER 18: Well, the last thing I see here, we were telling it, but let me see what we got here. FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
Alriqhty.
MALE SPEAKER 18: I'm showing it being out to --for information. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Out for information? MALE SPEAKER 18: Uh, but, uh, to -- yeah, I'm showing it being told out right now. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: (Inaudible.) Hold on a minute, what code do you guys have him on? page 42
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Ch7lD20pDRMlDAT220031219 [1] MALE SPEAKER 18: 3755.
FEMALE SPEAKER 1: 3755. And approximately where is he at right now? MALE SPEAKER 18: urn, well , let ' s see. The biggest city around him there. Do you know where Atlanta is? Do you guys (inaudible) -FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Yeah, I know where Atlanta's at. MALE SPEAKER 18: — Atlanta? Okay, well, he's -- well, he's a long ways away from Atlanta. He's southwest of Atlanta for about 237 miles. He's about to cross from -- he's kind of flying along the Gulf Coast, and he's about to cross from the -- probably Alabama into Mississippi. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Oh , I see him. That's (inaudible). Alrighty. Yeah, he's right over Louisiane. MALE SPEAKER 18: Yeah, well, he's fixing to get over Louisiana. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Fixing to go over there. MALE SPEAKER 18: Yes. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Yeah, okay, copy.
3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 Mo? I've 02:45:00 25 0104 1 2 Myers.
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MALE SPEAKER 18: All right? FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Thank you, sir. MALE SPEAKER 18: Yeah.
FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Bye-bye. MALE SPEAKER 18: (inaudible.) BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER:
Colonel?
FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Can you release the line, got to -(Dial tone, dialing, ringing.) MALE SPEAKER 19: Canada East ID, Corporal
FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Hi. I called the wrong number, I'm sorry. This is Huntress. Sorry. (Dial tone, dialing, ringing.) MALE SPEAKER 18: Oak Grove ID, Sergeant Eld ridge. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Hi. Huntress calling. Listen, the crew commander is asking information on Air Force One. Can you give me a heads-up, please? MALE SPEAKER 18: Like what -FEMALE SPEAKER 1: where -MALE SPEAKER 18: -- type of information? FEMALE SPEAKER 1: -- he is. I know all the information, as far as what he is and everything, where he is, what's going on, have you heard anything, do you know how he is, all that good stuff. MALE SPEAKER 18: Urn, well, right now - well, since the last time I spoke to you, no. The only -the only thing we know is -- is he is currently -well, let's see -FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Go ahead with the latlong, because we have the -MALE SPEAKER 18: Lat-long? Okay. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: -- radar coverage.
5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 0105 1 MALE SPEAKER 18: All right. 3146 north, 2 09103 west. 3 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Current position. Okay. 4 MALE SPEAKER 18: He is tracking 284 degrees.
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Tracking 284? Yes. Hers at about 420 Oh, I'm sorry. Go ahead. He's at 36,000 feet. (inaudible.)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: MALE SPEAKER 18: Hello?
Sir?
Hello?
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you. Hold on a sec. we've got you. back. I got you. Go ahead.
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Yeah, we've got
we're coming
Okay.
FEMALE SPEAKER 1: I'm sorry, go ahead. MALE SPEAKER 18: Did you hear what I said? 37,000 feet -- or 35,600 feet now. It looks like he's descending. Hello? Hello? Hello? Hello? FEMALE SPEAKER 1: I'm sorry. Go ahead. MALE SPEAKER 18: Okay, where did you leave off at? FEMALE SPEAKER 1: I've got three thousand -35- -- shit -- you said he's descending. MALE SPEAKER 18: Yeah, actually he's down to four now, so I don't know where he's descending to, but
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FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
4,000 feet?
7 MALE SPEAKER 18: No, he's down to 35,100 8 now. 9 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: okay. And what is near 10 the 3146 north, 0910(inaudible) west? 11 MALE SPEAKER 18: Well._Barksda1e Air Force 12 Base, in Louisiana. He' s ki'hd or-- his heading takes 13 "Trim right to Barksdale, but he's still 127 miles from 14 there. That's about the nearest Air Force base. He's 15 not really headed towards Houston. That's probably the 16 closest big city. 17 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: okay, we probably 18 shouldn't say, anyways, what I'll do is, I'll go ahead 19 and pass the information to the crew commander, and if 20 he has anything else he needs, we'll go ahead and get 21 it from you. 22
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(inaudible) line. Huntress ID,
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER:
Yes,
can you
give me the BX number?
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Sergeant (inaudible).
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Okay.
FEMALE SPEAKER 1: All right, thank you. MALE SPEAKER 18: (inaudible.) (Telephone ringing in.)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER:
ma'am.
No, I'm sorry,
I'm -- you -- I'm kind of busy right now. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER:
My son works
there, and his daughter works in Washington, D.C., and I want to get a hold of him, please. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Ma'am, we can't take that -- we can't help you right now. we're in a crisis situation. We don't have --
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I am, too. My daughter -- my granddaughter works in Washington, D.C. I want to get a hold of my son so he can get a hold of her. UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Stand by, one minute, ma'am.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER:
Ma'am, what IS
your name? UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER:
Josephine
25 Lizinski, and my son, Paul Lizinski, works in BX. I 0108 1 don't have the number. 2 (Dial tone.) 3 (Dial tone.) 4 (Dial tone, dialing, busy signal.) 5
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER:
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Boston, Huntress
ID, on the 89 line. (Click.) UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER:
Boston, Huntress
ID, on the 90-9. Boston, Huntress ID, on the 91-9. (Dial tone, dialing, busy signal.) UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Can't get through one at DSN. (Dial tone, dialing, busy signal.) (Dial tone, dialing.) (Sustained buzzing.) (Ringing.) (Dial tone.) UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER:
23 through to them. 24 (Dialing tone, dialing.) 25 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: 0109 1 2 3 4
Boston, Huntress
ID, on the 89-9. Oh, you've got to do line 1. You're trying to get through to Boston? Oh, I'm sorry. (Click.)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER:
I can't get
(inaudible) line I have. -- Boston? I have. I've
tried all three 9f them. (Sustained buzzing.) (Ringing.) UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: I've tried every number we've got. I think the DSN system's -(Ringing.) UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: MALE SPEAKER 20: Boston. UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER:
-- locked up. I got h i m .
Hey, this is Huntress ID. Apparently, we've got a couple of guys that are within a 50-miles-south radius. MALE SPEAKER 20: Of where? UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: MALE SPEAKER 20: Okay.
Of Albany.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Yup. MALE SPEAKER 20: All right.
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you need?
MALE SPEAKER 20: Okay (inaudible), what do UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER:
South of Albany,
about 80 miles. He's more southwest. I've got a guy (inaudible) 6300 feet. MALE SPEAKER 20: okay, that may be a state -- I don't have a code, but that may be a state police guy. Before we evacuated the building, we did have the coordination with them that someone would be going down south -UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Okay. MALE SPEAKER 20: -- (inaudible) a helicopter. So I don't know if that is the same guy. UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER:
Okay.
MALE SPEAKER 20: We're trying to get the target to come up. UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER:
Okay.
I've got,
like, three or four tracks I'm going to ask about, is that okay? Have you got a second? MALE SPEAKER 20: No, but I always have time for you. What have you got? UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER:
Thanks a lot.
Urn, 42 miles, uh, southwest -- southwest -west/southwest, I'm sorry, of Albany. And this guy is on a 4326 (inaudible) 6200 feet. MALE SPEAKER 20: Okay, 4326 code, you said? UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: 4326, yup.
MALE SPEAKER 20: okay. I don't have anything stored on the aircraft. I do see him out there, but I do not have anything stored on him. UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER:
SO you don't know
who he is either. MALE SPEAKER 20: I do not know who he is. UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Okay. Stand by,
one second. Sir, are you still there? MALE SPEAKER 20: Huntress, did you have somebody else holding? UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Yeah, one real quick thing. MALE SPEAKER 20: Go. UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER:
Urn, (inaudible) south of Albany again -- 80 miles directly south of Albany on a 0342 at 2,000 feet. MALE SPEAKER 20: 0342. You know what? That could be the -- one of those two guys could be the state police. UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER:
Okay.
MALE SPEAKER 20: I do not have anything, and, like I said, we would normally; but we don't have any controllers at the positions UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER:
Okay.
NO
problem.
MALE SPEAKER 20: All right. UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER:
Thanks
(inaudible). MALE SPEAKER 20: You're welcome. Bye. UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER:
and who? Page 46
SO -He has a Delta
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1200 code, okay? That's five --
UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER:
Yeah.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: -- five-seven, This friendly here, Bravo 602 and 651 he has no idea who those three guys are. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER
controllers.
They have no
UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Right. Right. So you want to make 'em all Deltas for now? UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: friendlies, originally. UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER:
Yeah. They're Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Because originated over us. ^ UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Yeah,
one --
the last
(Telephone ringing in.) UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER:
Gow.
they
Open line.
Huntress ID, Sergeant Booth. MALE SPEAKER 21: Sergeant Booth, Sergeant Bravo 545, who is he? UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: 545.
MALE SPEAKER 21: ^YeaJT^ he's a special, headed towards_D.C. 1 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Yup, hang on. That's a special 7. MALE SPEAKER 21: Special 7?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: He's going to be (inaudible) soon. Yup. MALE SPEAKER 21: Yeah, I saw -- I saw the symbology with (inaudible) earlier. UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Yup.
MALE SPEAKER 21: Special 7, copy. UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER:
Okay?
MALE SPEAKER 21: Yup, thanks. UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Yup. UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: It's very
general. Call Washington Center. UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER:
type aircraft it is. UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: (Dial tone, dialing.) UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER:
departure, too. (Ringing.) UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER:
because of the incident or -(Ringing.)
Yup. Find out what
Okay. I need a Now, was this
UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: -- before it? UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: No, this is -(Dial tone, dialing, ringing.) FEMALE SPEAKER 8: (inaudible.) UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER:
Yeah, how're you
doing? Huntress ID here. FEMALE SPEAKER 8: Yes? UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER:
Calling in
reference to -- we have a -- the attorney general up. FEMALE SPEAKER 8: A what? Page 47
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Okay. This guy's on a 6522. I need departure/destination on him. FEMALE SPEAKER 8: Hold on for a second, please.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER:
Sure thing,
UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER:
Hey, Huntress? Yes, sir?
ma'am. UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Okay, let me see, you need a code for him? UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: what I need is departure and destination on (inaudible) attorney general. PHONE MALE SPEAKER 23:
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