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Transcribed by Heather Farrar from the CD provided to Alderson Reporting P R O C E E D I N G S ELECTRONIC VOICE: 12 hours, 30 minutes, 30 seconds. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: No, any information, that would be great. MALE SPEAKER 1: Okay. Right now I get to kind of work on, I guess there's (inaudible) in the cockpit. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: They've got a lot in front. MALE SPEAKER 1: We'll call you right back. I just want to see (inaudible). FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Thank you. MALE SPEAKER 1: Okay. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Forty miles north of JFK. FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Forty miles out of New York. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: We don't even know. FEMALE SPEAKER 2: We don't know how many (inaudible) on board. It was originally -FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Hold on. You heard that, right? FEMALE SPEAKER 2: They're going to New York. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Airborne. FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Hey, you know what? You know what? Let's get a tail number for American 11. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Call Boston, American 11 tail number. FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Tell them we need the
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tail number of the aircraft. MALE SPEAKER 2: American 11? FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Yes, it is . FEMALE SPEAKER 3: Right now I can find (inaudible) only. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Do you have (inaudible) or anything? FEMALE SPEAKER 3: I'm not showing anything, no. Hold on. I can get a lat long for (inaudible). FEMALE SPEAKER 2: We're going to get an updated lat long now. We've got an updated lat long. We called Boston and filed 114 -- 1443, but he's not -- he's not working that. He's on primary only. We're getting an updated lat long position and I'm -FEMALE SPEAKER 3: Okay. It's showing 39 North -FEMALE SPEAKER 2: 4039 North. FEMALE SPEAKER 3: And 7403 West. FEMALE SPEAKER 2: 7403 West. Did we get a tail number? FEMALE SPEAKER 1: That's where she said it was. I don't see anybody going -- but wait a minute (inaudible). FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Hello. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: 46 scramble. Got a Z point? FEMALE SPEAKER 2: 403924. BACKGROUND MALE: I got an 8-mile (inaudible) . FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Let's bring it up and find the primary. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Well, we're looking to see for a first target. In fact, all they have is primary. I don't see -- so she knows that. FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Call -- call her back and tell her that we want -- if it's possible that she has (inaudible), we need updates every 3 to 5 minutes. We need lat long updates. FEMALE SPEAKER l: Is there any way, ma'am, that we can get updates as far as the lat long for that aircraft, you know -FEMALE SPEAKER 3: The last thing I'm showing it's tracking coast right now, so I -FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Tracking coast (inaudible). FEMALE SPEAKER 3: It means we -- as far as I'm showing here, (inaudible). MALE SPEAKER 3: Hi. Good morning. This is (inaudible) military calling at New York center. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: How are you doing? MALE SPEAKER 3: Good, good. Our watch supervisor, he needs the number for a possible hijacking. He wants to call somebody in case they need some assistance with your fighter jets. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Our phone number is going to be -- (inaudible) or commercial? MALE SPEAKER 3: It would be commercial.
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FEMALE SPEAKER 1 Okay. It's going to be area code 315 -FEMALE SPEAKER 2 Just give him -FEMALE SPEAKER 1 I'm sorry -FEMALE SPEAKER 2 Give him -FEMALE SPEAKER 1 I know. They want the (inaudible) number. FEMALE SPEAKER 2 No, that's what I'm saying. Just give him this one. It doesn't matter. They're monitoring us anyway. You can contact 631-468-5959 and they can keep you more updated on that. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: That's military? FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Sorry? FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Is that New York military? FEMALE SPEAKER 1: No, that's (inaudible). MALE SPEAKER 2: Yes? I'm going to take care of it. All righty? Bye. MALE SPEAKER 1: I think we're working on that. I don't have anybody that (inaudible). FEMALE SPEAKER 1: No, any information, that would be great. MALE SPEAKER 1: Okay. Right now I (inaudible) the cockpit. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: We need -FEMALE SPEAKER 2: And they lost primary. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: New York center. He's getting the phone number for (inaudible) right now. (Inaudible). FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Okay, that's the one -that's the same number Shelly got. Did that -- did you get that to work? FEMALE SPEAKER 1: I tried -FEMALE SPEAKER 1: The 142 -- do you know the flight level of the second aircraft? MALE SPEAKER 1: I think we're working on that. I don't have anybody to cover it now, but -(inaudible). We don't have anybody close to him. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay. Thank you. MALE SPEAKER 4: I do not see a primary target at this moment. However, he's not in my airspace. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay. Just wanted to give you a heads up. I don't know if you know, but the World Trade Center's just been hit by an aircraft. FEMALE SPEAKER 2: We've lost primary on this guy. MALE SPEAKER 4: Do you have - - d o you have that confirmed? FEMALE SPEAKER 1: That is on the news, sir, right now. MALE SPEAKER 4: Okay. There's too many people talking at once. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: I hear that too. Thank you. If there's anything else we need, we'll give you a call.
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MALE SPEAKER 4: Okay. Thank you. FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Are we still trying to work a tail number on this guy? FEMALE SPEAKER 1: We have made the call. We have a hotline to New York military -- or, no, Boston military. Where is it as compared to a Z track? FEMALE SPEAKER 2: And they lost primary. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: New York center. MALE SPEAKER 4: Okay. I ran the Z point. (Inaudible) primary. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: (Inaudible) on the line right now, but that's number (inaudible) if you want to call them back. FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Okay. That's the one - - i s that the same number Shelly got? Did you get that to work? FEMALE SPEAKER 1: I tried -FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Call 1427. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Tried it on the phone. You can try the black phone. 631. FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Yep. Confirmation? Who's giving you that confirmation? They did crash into the World Trade Center. Who's giving you that confirmation? FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Boston. FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Boston's confirming -Boston's confirming that was the aircraft that crashed into the Trade Center. American 11. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Boston's confirming it is the aircraft. MALE SPEAKER 5: (Inaudible) center. MALE SPEAKER 6: Yes, this is Major Anderson from the Northeast Air Defense Sector. MALE SPEAKER 5: Yes, sir. MALE SPEAKER 6: I'm looking for your SOF, if he's available. Actually, you can maybe answer my question. MALE SPEAKER 5: Yep. MALE SPEAKER 6: We're wanting to know how many aircraft you have down there with your spares, and how many pilots if we possibly need them. MALE SPEAKER 5 Four and three. MALE SPEAKER 6 You have four aircraft and three pilots? MALE SPEAKER 5 Yep. MALE SPEAKER 6 Okay. Are our three pilots there and able to fly? MALE SPEAKER 5 We have three total, so (inaudible), yeah. MALE SPEAKER 6 Okay. So basically what I'm requesting you to do is get those guys ready to go and keep them basically on status. We'll let you know once you know. MALE SPEAKER 5: Hang on one -- Borgy, come here. I got the SOF for you right now. MALE SPEAKER 6: Okay.
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MALE SPEAKER 6: Hey. This is Major Anderson, the MCC at NEADS MALE SPEAKER 7: Hey, what's up? MALE SPEAKER 6: If you guys have been watching the news, I'm sure you're probably aware now we're -- we're wanting to -- we just wanted to confirm your number of aircraft and pilots available if we need to scramble you guys, if we can scramble more than two. So I was told you have four airplanes and three pilots. Is that correct? MALE SPEAKER 7: That's correct, with no SOF. But yeah, we can get three airborne if we have to. MALE SPEAKER 6: Okay. Just stand by to stand by. We'll let you know if we need to do that, but you can only put three in the air, so we need to MALE SPEAKER 7:
Only two hot birds.
You
understand that, correct? MALE SPEAKER 6 Understand that. Okay. MALE SPEAKER 7 MALE SPEAKER 6 Okay. MALE SPEAKER 7 All right. We'll, we'll gin another one up. MALE SPEAKER 6 Okay. Thanks. MALE SPEAKER 7 MALE SPEAKER 6 Thanks. Bye. Hey, Langley -- Langley has four aircraft, but they only got three pilots. So they can have two hot birds and they're ginning up the other one to fly. They can put three in the air if they have to. MALE SPEAKER 8: Well, actually, open up the 107. We got two tankers coming into 107. We'll probably end up taking those. MALE SPEAKER 9: We've got Langley on battle stations. We may end up scrambling them. We've got two tankers out of McGuire. MALE SPEAKER 6: Call signs? MALE SPEAKER 9: (Inaudible) something or other. I'll get you call signs. They're going to be coming out and holding in 107. MALE SPEAKER 6: Okay. Is there airspace in 107 yet? MALE SPEAKER 9: No. MALE SPEAKER 6: We'll work on that. Okay. Stand by. When we get the hang-off -MALE SPEAKER 9: Are we going to take Lumpy in here since he's in there and we'll find a (inaudible) just in case you need another telephone line to anybody? BACKGROUND MALE: Did you find (inaudible) yet? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No. We're going to (inaudible). MALE SPEAKER 9: Maine to Bangor tanker. Maine from Bangor.
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MALE SPEAKER 6: Oh, this is the one I expected to walk into this morning. What are you going to do? Thank you, sir. If you can get a code on team 23 and team 24 I would appreciate it. BACKGROUND.MALE: Where are they coming out of? MALE SPEAKER 6: They're coming out of McGuire. MALE SPEAKER\9: Hold on, hold on, hold \ on. Tell Giant Killer that NORAD 1, air Alpha,
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Can you find some better BACKGROUND MALE: There is no black pens.
India, and Golf for a real world mission and we need them to get all other military aircraft out of (inaudible). MALE SPEAKER 6 :\s weapons 105. Okay. I would call McGuire approach. Ask them if they have a code on team 23. and 24. Hello. BACKGROUND MALE:\, right there, right? \0 UNIDENTIFIED MALE;
What are you look
for? UNIDENTIFIED MALE:\r 1, call approach. MALE SPEAKER 6: squadron.
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MALE SPEAKER 6: Hey, Joe. Where's the What are they? MALE SPEAKER 10: May day 5, Huntress, be advised you have a stranger 280 for 20, 25,000, left-hand turn. As a fighter, we're getting them to RTB. BACKGROUND MALE: Do you have a cap point yet? BACKGROUND MALE: No, we've got two F-15s 106 out of?
that are going to passing over New York. I got a tanker in Northwestern 105 and I got two tankers I just grabbed out of McGuire who are going to cap in 107. Right now that's all I got. All the (inaudible) are heading home out of 105 (inaudible). UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No answer at McGuire. MALE SPEAKER 6: Several numbers for them. Oh wait, hold on. Well, we also - - w e put in the request to send up all Otis aircraft, so that makes things -- hey, you don't have a number for 106 fighter squadron anywhere, do you? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Not on this sheet. MALE SPEAKER 10: May day 5, Huntress. Be advised you have tankers doing intercept with (inaudible). MALE SPEAKER 6: Call the Giant Killer. Give him a heads up that we're going to be getting team 23 and team 24 out of McGuire going down to 107, ask them if they got any codes on them. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yeah, I never have either.
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Okay, and we need
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: controller.
Giant Killer, 107
airspace.
FEMALE SPEAKER 4: Go ahead. MALE SPEAKER 6: Yeah, this is Huntress. We've got team 23 and team 24 are going to be in 107 here in a few minutes. Have you got any codes on them at all? They're coming out of McGuire? FEMALE SPEAKER 4: They don't have anything on team 23 or 24 yet. MALE SPEAKER 6: Okay. What about the airspace? FEMALE SPEAKER 4: Their airspace is already -- actually we already have a 21 flight in there. MALE SPEAKER 6: You got a team 21 flight in there right now? FEMALE SPEAKER 4 That's affirm. MALE SPEAKER 6: Code on them? FEMALE SPEAKER 4 3332. MALE SPEAKER 6: 3332. Copy all. I'll let you know what's going on. FEMALE SPEAKER 4: All right. MALE SPEAKER 6: Team 21 is already -UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Major Fox, we have a second. MALE SPEAKER 6: Okay, they already have a team 21. If we can get him, then we're good to go. I was told team 23, not team 21. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You got somebody out there right now out of McGuire? All right, I'll break the mode. MALE SPEAKER 6: Team 21 is right here. ] believe he's airborne right now. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hi. This is Giant Killer 9241. MALE SPEAKER 6: Answer Giant Killer. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hold on a second. MALE SPEAKER 6: 64 at 234.6. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yeah, 45 and 46 are airborne now. That's the ones we have airborne that we scrambled. MALE SPEAKER 6: 234.6. I have 234.6. What do you want me to use? You've got 64. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Giant Killer, while you're at the -UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Can you have team 21 contact Huntress on 234.6? MALE SPEAKER 6: Confirm the airspace. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Confirm for me we have airspace (inaudible) exclusive. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That'll be fine. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Copy that. I just
4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 0017 1 need to know the (inaudible). Thanks. Papa Tango. 2 Right now we just - - w e have the airspace -3 UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There's a third
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aircraft headed towards Washington right now, an American Airliners. BACKGROUND MALE: Who's on New York right now? MALE SPEAKER 6: That's close enough for now. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We're getting more now. MALE SPEAKER 6: We're scrambling Langley through Washington area now. I need to intercept mission (inaudible) in area 4. Probably not squawking anything anyway. I mean, obviously these guys are in the cockpit. This is code 3332. We're going to keep it in 107, correct? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Correct, yeah. MALE SPEAKER 6: Okay. United in 21. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They're going to be getting Quit 2526. MALE SPEAKER 6: United Airliner 175, the second one -UNIDENTIFIED MALE: -- on 010 heading -MALE SPEAKER 6: A third one that's heading toward Washington now. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: -- flight 290. Okay? MALE SPEAKER 6: It'S an American Airliners. I don't know what the -UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He'll have to maintain corns with FAA and Victor (inaudible). Your mission will be to bring him up north. For now, just head him towards Baltimore Washington International. MALE SPEAKER 6: Okay, okay. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Tell them to coordinate with center that NORAD wants them to cap MALE SPEAKER 6:
American Airlines 11?
Right. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: -- over Baltimore Washington -- in the Baltimore Washington International -MALE SPEAKER 6: Do you know what type it is? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Gotcha. (Inaudible) off center. No problem. MALE SPEAKER 6: Get rid of that. Actually no, I want -- well, okay, that's fine for now. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Copy that. The third one -UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Okay. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: 25 and 26. Thank you. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Okay. And you scrambled Langley, correct? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm good, I'm good. I never got a -UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We don't have a place on him yet. We don't know where he's at yet. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Don't know where he's at?
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I mean, obviously these guys are in the cockpit They're not going to squawk in a code. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Team 21, Huntress on 234.6. How copy? Team 2223. Giant Killer, Huntress, 924 line, reference 107, and team 21. FEMALE SPEAKER 5: Giant Killer. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, Giant Killer, Huntress here. I'm not talking to team 21. I need to come over - - h e has to come over to 234.6 for Huntress. FEMALE SPEAKER 5: Okay, you want (inaudible) Huntress. Say again your frequency. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: 234.6. FEMALE SPEAKER 5:
234.6.
He's coming to
you. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: 107. We have team 23, we just got a radar hand-off on them from New York center. They're squawking 1641. They're returning to 107 in approximately one minute. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Copy that. Have them contact Huntress on 234.6. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: 234.6? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: All right. That's affirmative. And you have over through Echo, 5 to 50500 exclusively. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Copy that exclusive. Thanks. Papa Tango. MALE SPEAKER 6: Langley has three aircraft, so we have four aircraft -UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Okay, let's find them. MALE SPEAKER 6: He can get three airborne. Only two of them are hot. I passed that to the FO. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He's not even in our airspace yet. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Holy schnikes, Batman. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Okay. Here he comes. BACKGROUND MALE:
And they say the same
old shit. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Team 21, team 21, Huntress, radar contract, sending out our angels 23 and 107. How copy? MALE SPEAKER 11: Team 21. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Team 21, maintain angels 23 rev, Whiskey 107, 6,000 flight level, 500 concurrent. Your mission is to orbit Whiskey 107. MALE SPEAKER 11: Team 21 copy. And I guess we'll hang out here until you tell us otherwise? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That's affirmative for team 21. Also we have team 23 should be entering the airspace in a few more minutes. Team 21, Huntress, requesting to know what your off-load is right now. Don't they have -MALE SPEAKER 11: We'll tell you in a couple minutes.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Right. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: 767. November 334, Alpha, Alpha. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Right. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He has never been found. He is not one of the aircraft that did that. They expected he -UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Are you watching for radar always? Because my -- my take is, obviously these guys are in the cockpit. They're probably strangling off the code. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Okay. We're going to hit up some track, see if we can find a likely -MALE SPEAKER 11: Huntress, team 21. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: -- intercept it and get a visual ID. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Okay. You want to move tankers into this area? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, but what we might do -UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Bring them later. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: - - w e may bring the second guy up at least in the 380 -MALE SPEAKER 11: Huntress, team 21. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Team 21, Huntress. Go ahead. MALE SPEAKER 11: We can off-load 43K. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Huntress copies 4 -about 43K. Thanks. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Okay. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: SC, 43K for team 21, for an off-load if you need it. How many -- how many team (inaudible)? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, sir, and (inaudible) been scrambled. You have a mode 3 on a Quit 25 (inaudible)? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hey, Steve. How many tankers do you have and what are their call signs? UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
I have team 21.
I'm
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going to be getting team 23 shortly. I don't know if team 23 is a flight (inaudible) yet or not. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Okay, so you got 21 and 23, it's coming to you? UNIDENTIFIED MALE : Yes. I have 21 now. BACKGROUND MALE: Q-u-i-t. UNIDENTIFIED MALE : Major Anderson, you got a second? UNIDENTIFIED MALE : Tell me what you need, John. I'11 get it. UNIDENTIFIED MALE : Have you asked -- have you asked the question what you're going to do if we actually find this guy? Are we going to shoot him down if they got passengers on board? Have they talked about that? BACKGROUND MALE: Airborne? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Airborne. Time? What's the airborne time on Langley? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We're getting it now. We got a flight at 3 airborne. BACKGROUND MALE: 25, 26, 27? MALE SPEAKER 6: Yeah. BACKGROUND MALE: Airborne time? MALE SPEAKER 6: They're still working on it. They don't have it yet. 25. 1325 airborne time for Langley. BACKGROUND MALE: 25? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: 25. BACKGROUND MALE: FAA'S back to Langley. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Okay. I got another aircraft, three aircrafts that are sort of missing. I got United and American -- American -BACKGROUND MALE: Say again? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We got a question for you. The military aircraft that are in the air right now. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, sir? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We were wondering if we should tell them to return to base if they're just on training missions or what you guys are -UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, no. They're actually on the active air for the DO out there. We did send the ones home in 105 that were on the training mission. They are sent home. The Pantas are out there for (inaudible). UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Right. I understand that. I'm talking about -- I think there's someone training up in Falcon area. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh, Falcon? Stand by. Let me UNIDENTIFIED MALE: In that training -BACKGROUND MALE: Call Syracuse. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If send him home. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If send him home?
general, anybody's Boston, call he's in training, he's in Falcon,
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Right. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Makes sense to me. I'll run it up to the FO, but -UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yeah, yeah, go -- go ahead and send them home. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Okay. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Not yet. We're working with FAA. There is sketchy coming out of FAA. BACKGROUND FEMALE: Is it all right if -UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yeah. They're -they're on it now. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Say again? No, I don't need the chair, no. Take them. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What's the code? BACKGROUND MALE: Delta what? BACKGROUND FEMALE: 89. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Code? So that's a special 089? BACKGROUND FEMALE: Yeah, that's another (inaudible). Delta 89, Bravo (inaudible). MALE SPEAKER 6: They're heading there now. Friggin' Giant Killer in their wisdom sent them out over the water when we scrambled them to Washington. No. BACKGROUND MALE: Delta 89 from Boston. MALE SPEAKER 6: Yeah. That's the one that shot to Cleveland now. And I passed that to weapons so they're know -- they're aware of it. This is fucking -- all six (inaudible). This is another possible hijack right there. We got Langley -- Giant Killer, we scrambled them out to Washington. Langley -- Giant Killer sent them out over the water. Yeah, we had -- and we had a radar-only hit that was turning into -- into the Washington area, so they're out over the water now heading to Washington. We've got Otis scrambled out that was in 105 but is heading up to the New York City area to hang out over there, and we got three tankers all out over the water. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And they got tankers (inaudible) anything available? Can they arm -- I don't think they can arm anybody in time, but -MALE SPEAKER 6: Yeah, that's a -- that's a good call. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Talk to me about Selfridge. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yeah, they got guards posted all over. They ought to have some -UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Quit 25, Huntress. Confirm all birds squawking quad 7. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Affirmative. All birds are squawking. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Quit 25, read back correct. I show the tab Bra 310, 95 miles. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, you're going to have to go up to another setting. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Quit 25, traffic, Bra 310, 22, 25,000, track east.
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Polk Field, there's no
spaces. MALE SPEAKER 6: The track's 43 miles Yeah. Hey Mo? BACKGROUND MALE: Yeah? MALE SPEAKER 6: That guy south of Cleveland, it's still a hijack, right? Okay. We're scrambling Toledo on him right now. Okay. We're
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scrambling Toledo on him now. Sergeant Powell? BACKGROUND MALE: Yes? MALE SPEAKER 6: Shadow monitor is a mission on that. BACKGROUND MALE: I want to know whose authority. BACKGROUND MALE: We don't have any authority over him. MALE SPEAKER 6: Yeah. I mean, they got to work it through FAA. BACKGROUND MALE: What can I do? BACKGROUND MALE: Was that Toledo or Selfridge? MALE SPEAKER 6: Toledo. Do we want to call Selfridge and see if they've got anything? Yeah, Toledo's actually a better position. Selfridge would have to chase the guy down. MALE SPEAKER 12: All right, Captain Nagel. How are you? MALE SPEAKER 13: You guys been watching CNN? MALE SPEAKER 12: Yes, sir. MALE SPEAKER 13: Okay. There's another one, south of you guys, 70 miles, about 40 miles east of Toledo. MALE SPEAKER 12: Excuse me? MALE SPEAKER 13: There's another one, another hijack, another hijack. BACKGROUND MALE: Possible hijack. MALE SPEAKER 13: A possible hijack south of you guys. We're just wondering if you guys are flying. MALE SPEAKER 12: We're landing now. We're approaching down right now. MALE SPEAKER 13: Okay. MALE SPEAKER 12: We're starting to get these guys down. MALE SPEAKER 13: Okay. We're just trying to find if there's anybody to play. I know nobody would be armed more than likely, but that would just be too much to ask if there's some AIM-12Os on board. MALE SPEAKER 12: Well, we are possibly armed, yes. Hang on one second. I'm going to give you Colonel Pep, okay? MALE SPEAKER 13: Perfect. Thanks. MALE SPEAKER 12: All right. MALE SPEAKER 14: Colonel Peplinsky. MALE SPEAKER 13: Hi, sir. I t ' s Brian Nagel.
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0031 1 MALE SPEAKER 14 Yeah. 2 MALE SPEAKER 13 From the WADS -- the 3 Northeast guy. 4 MALE SPEAKER 14 Yeah. 5 MALE SPEAKER 13 You've heard the CNN and 6 everything, of course? 7 MALE SPEAKER 14 Right. 8 MALE SPEAKER 13 There's a possible third 9 dude south of you guys about 65 miles, just east of 10 Toledo right now. 11 MALE SPEAKER 14: Uh-huh. 12 MALE SPEAKER 13: And we're just fishing 13 to see if we can anybody that can fly, or even better 14 if they had weapons on board. I heard you guys are 15 just coming home right now. 16 MALE SPEAKER 14: Yeah, I don't know that 17 - - w e haven't got anything -- hold on. 18 UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We called into 19 scramble. We're talking to Selfridge right now. 20 Selfridge is just landing a training mission. 21 MALE SPEAKER 14: Okay. The only thing 22 we've got is some guys have hot guns, and I don't 23 know if they expended at the range. 24 MALE SPEAKER 13: Oh, okay. Are they -25 those are the guys coming home? 0032 1 Yeah. MALE SPEAKER 14 And I'm supposing 2 MALE SPEAKER 13 3 they're down on fuel, like under 3,000 pounds too, 4 right? 5 MALE SPEAKER 14: Well, I don't know the 6 answer to that question. Ask them what their gas is. 7 MALE SPEAKER 13: That's those guys right 8 there. 9 UNIDENTIFIED MALE : In the air? 10 MALE SPEAKER 13: Yeah. He's coming home 11 right here. 12 MALE SPEAKER 14: Okay. They got 4,000 pounds, but they strike, so. 13 14 MALE SPEAKER 13: Okay. 15 MALE SPEAKER 14: So they're -- they're 16 expended. 17 MALE SPEAKER 13: Right. Yeah, they're 72 18 miles, like, southeast, 72 miles from your guys right 19 now. I can just see your guy is right close to the 20 base. They're just disappearing from my radar right 21 now. The guys are yours, coming home, so. 22 MALE SPEAKER 14: Yeah. 23 MALE SPEAKER 13: Okay. 24 MALE SPEAKER 14: Well, I tell you what. 25 MALE SPEAKER 13: Yeah, we're just looking 0033 1 for any option we can find out here right now. 2 MALE SPEAKER 14: Yeah, what -3 MALE SPEAKER 13: I can understand there's 4 all the command and control and authority aspect, 5 which we haven't deal with. I'm just phoning units I know, you know? 6 7 MALE SPEAKER 14: Yeah. Well, what we'll
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do is we'll take a look and see what we got. Do you know where these guys are trending to right now? MALE SPEAKER 13: Yeah, it's heading west. It was filed to -UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Las Vegas. MALE SPEAKER 13: Vegas originally. MALE SPEAKER 14: Okay. MALE SPEAKER 13: And Duluth (inaudible), because we tried them already too, because they're kind of nice route for them to pick up, because they're -- they're overhead Toledo in about a half a minute. MALE SPEAKER 14: Okay. Have you talked to Toledo or -MALE SPEAKER 13: Another guy's on -another guy's on the phone with him right now. MALE SPEAKER 14: Yeah. I was going to say Fort Wayne and -MALE SPEAKER 13 Fort Wayne? MALE SPEAKER 14 Try Fort Wayne and Springfield, Ohio, too. MALE SPEAKER 13 Springfield? MALE SPEAKER 14 I mean, not Springfield, Ohio, Springfield, Illinois. MALE SPEAKER 13 Okay. Do you know numbers for any of those? MALE SPEAKER 14 Do we have numbers for any of those? Probably not. Here, I'll get some for you. Hold on. MALE SPEAKER 13: Thank you, sir. Sounds like Toledo's got something to launch. What can we talk to anybody there with? MALE SPEAKER 6: 328.0 is out of 62. 328.0 is out of 62. That's right in that area. MALE SPEAKER 13: Flip your switch, Jaime? MALE SPEAKER 6: It's coming to me? UNIDENTIFIED MALE We're showing a cap .250 for 20 miles. UNIDENTIFIED MALE 250. MALE SPEAKER 6: They're talking to them trying to find a -- uh-oh. Just turned north. BACKGROUND MALE: Okay, I need -MALE SPEAKER 6: Okay, we got -BACKGROUND MALE: -- the Toledo guys. MALE SPEAKER 6: Yeah. They're coming up on 328.0, BACKGROUND MALE:
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up? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Selfridge guys are just landing now. They got like 4,000 pounds. I was told Toledo was coming up on 328.0 and I got them. Hey, scramble me out some Symbology. MALE SPEAKER 13: There's a bunch of stuff going on right now. Just over Toledo. Yeah, that's the way I look at it too. MALE SPEAKER 6: He ain't going to Vegas. BACKGROUND MALE: Ain't going to Vegas. MALE SPEAKER 6: Hey, Jeremy, I'm waiting
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on 328.0 for - - d o you have a call sign for the Toledo guys? They're not taking off with fuel? BACKGROUND MALE: Yeah, they're taking off with fuel, but -MALE SPEAKER 6: We'll work -- we'll work that real time. Give me a call sign and an airborne time and a code. BACKGROUND MALE: Sting 11. MALE SPEAKER 6: Code? Sting 11 out of Toledo. Are you still talking to Selfridge? BACKGROUND MALE: Yes. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Are you letting him know he's coming towards him now? BACKGROUND MALE: Yep. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How fast can they turn those jets? MALE SPEAKER 14 892 -MALE SPEAKER 13 Yep. MALE SPEAKER 14 8202. MALE SPEAKER 13 8202. Okay. MALE SPEAKER 14 Yeah. MALE SPEAKER 13 Okay. The guy is 54 miles from you now at 24,000 feet. He's going more easterly now. He's heading back over Lake -- Lake Erie there now. MALE SPEAKER 14: Oh, he's heading over Lake Erie? MALE SPEAKER 13: Yeah. He was pointed directly towards you and 50 miles south, and now he's heading east again at 24,000 over south of Lake Erie (inaudible) now. MALE SPEAKER 14: Okay. What -- here -here's what we can do. At a minimum, we can keep our guys airborne. I mean, they don't have -- they don't have any guns or missiles or anything on board -MALE SPEAKER 13:; It's a presence though. MALE SPEAKER 14 :: What's that? MALE SPEAKER 1: It's a presence -MALE SPEAKER 6: Did these Toledo guys come up yet, do you know? BACKGROUND MALE: Not yet. I got 328.0 (inaudible) Langley. Selfridge is holding in the air for the time being. MALE SPEAKER 6: Yeah, but with 4.0 they can't hold very long. BACKGROUND MALE: I know. I'll call up (inaudible) in a second. MALE SPEAKER 13: As soon as these guys are airborne, I'll tell Peplinsky to go -- look at where he's heading now too. BACKGROUND MALE: What do you got -- what do you got with Toledo? MALE SPEAKER 6: We're trying to get Toledo airborne. Selfridge has got guys in the air right now that we're getting ready to land. They've only got like 4.0 on the - - o n the gas, so they're going to be able to stay up. So we're -MALE SPEAKER 13: Is Toledo -- are you
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get a Sting 11 flight out of Toledo. We're coming up on 328.0. MALE SPEAKER 13: Were they going on a gun (inaudible), let's hope? MALE SPEAKER 6: Yeah, who knows. I don't think they were doing anything. They just happened to have them. Yeah, out of site 62. BACKGROUND MALE: Is Toledo controlling? MALE SPEAKER 13: They're going to do what? They're going to control it? Outstanding. Okay, I'll find the status as soon as he gets airborne, what he needs. That kind of depends on how far he's got to track this guy too. It depends on what happens. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yeah, why don't we slide a chair over here if we're going to control. What's the two letters? MALE SPEAKER 6: They don't have any. BACKGROUND FEMALE: Do you have enough controllers? MALE SPEAKER 6: I'm getting ready to take Toledo guys myself. BACKGROUND FEMALE: Okay. You've got guys taking off out of Alpena, okay? MALE SPEAKER 6: Okay. Who are they? BACKGROUND FEMALE: Springfield -- I don't have call signs on them. There's guys -- they're deployed to Alpena. They're from Springfield. MALE SPEAKER 6: Okay. BACKGROUND FEMALE: Okay? And they're going to be coming up -MALE SPEAKER 6: For this guy? BACKGROUND FEMALE: With guns. MALE SPEAKER 6: With guns. Outstanding. MALE SPEAKER 13: Everybody's doing guns. That's why I'm thinking Toledo might have guns on board. BACKGROUND FEMALE: That's all they had. They were deployed from (inaudible). I don't know where they're going to go. It can't come up on frequency. Colonel Marr (inaudible). MALE SPEAKER 6: Yeah, 328.0. Is that what -BACKGROUND FEMALE: Huh? MALE SPEAKER 6: 328.0 is the freq that we're looking for, tell them to come up on. BACKGROUND FEMALE: Okay. I don't know if they passed that. You should be getting a call from Alpena (inaudible) Huntress control. So Alpena will call us. MALE SPEAKER 13: Did you get a call sign? BACKGROUND FEMALE: No, no call sign. MALE SPEAKER 6: Why don't we give them a call? MALE SPEAKER 13:
Okay, go ahead.
I'm
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going to tell Peplinsky to land this guy. MALE SPEAKER 6: Alpena. I don't have anybody from - - o h that was a -- there was a Springfield guy, but they're deployed to Alpena. Alpena is Selfridge, right? That's where they fly into, Selfridge flies into Alpena? MALE SPEAKER 13: Hi. Can I speak to Colonel Peplinsky, please? BACKGROUND MALE: Are you (inaudible)? MALE SPEAKER 6: Right now I'm getting ready to control. MALE SPEAKER 13: The guy's south over Lake Erie so I'm thinking he's too far away for your guys with their fuel. Do you have the Alpena -phone number for Alpena handy? MALE SPEAKER 6: Alpena's way the hell out here though. MALE SPEAKER 13: And do you want a quick point-out where this guy's at for your own information? Yeah, it's -- oops, sorry, that's 180, 73 miles, heading southeast, He's now at 9,000 and descending, so. And do we know what kind MALE SPEAKER 14 of airplane? MALE SPEAKER 1: Possibly a 767. MALE SPEAKER 14: Okay. All right. Thanks. MALE SPEAKER 13: As the other two, so. MALE SPEAKER 14 : Okay. I'll keep you advised MALE SPEAKER 13 when we know more, and thanks for your help. MALE SPEAKER 14: All right. Bye. MALE SPEAKER 6: He's going to keep -he's going to turn those guys? For Alpena? What was that again? See, that -- that's too far away. We still got the best shot with the Toledo guys to get them if they come up. Are you taking an SC position, Lump? MALE SPEAKER 13: Hi, good morning. It's Captain Nagel from Huntress. MALE SPEAKER 6: Yeah, probably it's going to help to divide the workload. MALE SPEAKER 13: Good. I hear a couple of tankers are going airborne shortly and they might have been (inaudible)? MALE SPEAKER 6: Correct? FEMALE SPEAKER 6: Not that I'm aware of. I know we have a couple of birds up, but they're coming -- they're returning to base. MALE SPEAKER 13: Okay. Do you know their call sign? FEMALE SPEAKER 6: The two that are -MALE SPEAKER 13: Oh, okay. Right then. That's what we're after. Okay. Where are they coming back from? 4201? Okay. That's what I need to know. BACKGROUND MALE: What number's good for Chicago?
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BACKGROUND MALE: Call one of the other centers and get a good number. MALE SPEAKER 6: I'm going to call and see if this guy's airborne yet. FEMALE SPEAKER 7: Base ops. Sergeant Vankirk speaking. May I help you? MALE SPEAKER 6: Yes, this is Major Anderson from Huntress calling. I'm looking for word on a Sting 11 and 12 flight that were supposed to work a possible hijacked plane through FAA and come up on our frequency. FEMALE SPEAKER 7: Stand by, sir. MALE SPEAKER 15: Yeah, this is Lieutenant Colonel Bartman. Sting 11 should be airborne any minute here right now, and we've got a tanker at Pittsburgh that's ready to go, I guess, and he's trying to get airborne as well. MALE SPEAKER 6: Okay, Do you have a call sign on a code on the tankers? MALE SPEAKER 15: No, I do not. I have no idea. You guys are going to have to probably call Pittsburgh to get that information. Their phone number for their base ops is (inaudible) 277-7347. MALE SPEAKER 6: Okay. Copy that, and confirm 5106, the code for Sting 11. MALE SPEAKER 15: We can give that to him. 5106, we'll tell him, make sure that they're squawking that. MALE SPEAKER 6: Okay. That was what I got passed through the FAA. They're working through the FAA. They're coming up our frequency 328.0 for information. MALE SPEAKER 15: Right. Exactly, That's what -- that's what we told them to do. MALE SPEAKER 6: Okay. Okay. Thanks lot. MALE SPEAKER 15: Okay. You bet. MALE SPEAKER 6: Bye. Okay. They should be airborne shortly. They're working -- they're working a tanker out of Pittsburgh and they gave me a number for their base ops. Yeah. Yeah, I am actually. MALE SPEAKER 13: Have you guys watched CNN today? Okay. Well, here's the shock of the day. They're may be a third one and we're hustling to see if we can find anybody that can fly in the area. Right now he's overhead of -- what the hell's that town there? DJB? East of Toledo about 60 miles, heading east at 8,000. That's what I'm wondering, if you got anything, especially if you got guns on board. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Okay. Why can't I log in as weapons? I'm forgetting my weapons log-in? If he wants that, he's taking a second FD position. Okay, we need to refuel this Symbology then. And then log on as 2-4. MALE SPEAKER 13: We don't know how far he's going to go, but he's heading back east again so
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we're trying to sort that out. I'll give you a quick (inaudible) to get an idea where he's at. From where you are, 55, 260.9. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Bravo 089, special over by Toledo. MALE SPEAKER 6: I know. We've been watching him and waiting for Toledo to come up airborne. No, your Symbology was hooked. BACKGROUND MALE: Okay. I'll fix that console. MALE SPEAKER 6: I'm waiting for Sting to get airborne. Yeah. Lumpy is right next to me. He's setting up -- they're splitting the FDs. They're going through (inaudible). BACKGROUND MALE: I don't know if he's airborne. MALE SPEAKER 6: Okay. What -- what assets do we have? BACKGROUND MALE: MCC, we got an air track reported over the White House. Intercept? BACKGROUND MALE: Intercept. BACKGROUND MALE: Intercept. MALE SPEAKER 6: How close are you to intercepting Washington? BACKGROUND MALE: Huh? MALE SPEAKER 6: How close are you to that aircraft over Washington? Do you have a type? They're right on him right now. They're going in now. They're looking for a type right now. Yes, it is.
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know also the White House has ADA assets, just so they know. Hey, Steve's supposed to be airborne. Can you talk to him? BACKGROUND MALE: Yes. Can you call 6180 extension for that, please? BACKGROUND MALE: Talk to me about Sting. MALE SPEAKER 6: He's ID'ing a possible hijack. They have a special out here over the lake as a possible hijack. It was at 7 -- well, it started out 24,000, last I saw it was 7,000 and slow descent. Hey, Jeff? Hey, Jeff, he's supposed to come up 328.0 out of site 62. FAA -- FAA's supposed to work the intercept. He's just up our freq for coordination. Hey, Colonel Sanderson, are you still on? Hey, my only question is what do you want to do, just like set up, I think we should set up fighters right over those cities, I mean, because you don't know what avenue of approach anybody would be coming from. Hey, what we're looking to do is put barrier caps over Chicago, Boston, Pittsburgh, and Washington. BACKGROUND MALE: What's that? MALE SPEAKER 6: We're looking to put barrier caps over these four cities. BACKGROUND MALE: Washington, Boston, Pitt, and -MALE SPEAKER 6: Yeah, we already -actually we already got Langley over - - w e got Langley over Washington right now, so. BACKGROUND MALE: Did anybody phone the first fighter wing and starting generating maybe some eagles or something? MALE SPEAKER 6: First fighter wing is generating jets right now. They are generating jets. BACKGROUND MALE: I can't get a DSN line. I'm trying to phone Pittsburgh and tell them MALE SPEAKER 6: Why can't we get this to assigned anything? BACKGROUND MALE: I don't know. MALE SPEAKER 6: Okay. Drop them. Just drop them and write up a sign. Let's go. BACKGROUND MALE: The special in Ohio faded. MALE SPEAKER 6: In Ohio -- you mean the guy over the -BACKGROUND MALE: The guy near Toledo, Cleveland. MALE SPEAKER 6: Toledo'S supposed to be airborne. That special track just faded. Oh, you're talking Langley? Okay. Hang on. Okay, that's a bust. They -- Washington was reporting our guys overhead, so there is no aircraft over Washington. And we're going to keep them there for the barrier cap over Washington. We're working three more assets over the other cities. That's the Langley birds. Who are the Langley birds? Quits. Yeah. Okay. You want to put them over the cities? Okay. So you want -- okay, so we're going to take them to the
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Washington area also. Do we have call signs on them? Okay. Hey, Foxy. They're going to get four more F-15s from first fighter wing out of Langley from the Washington area. BACKGROUND MALE: Just a heads up, Lumpy and (inaudible) are going to be my SESC techs for the midwest, so anything about that, go straight to them. BACKGROUND MALE: Four more F-15s out of Langley? MALE SPEAKER 6: Out of Langley, first fighter wing, yeah. Hey, so you're -- you're handling internal stuff direct? Okay. Hey, Sergeant Marr, when you get a chance, call the first fighter wing. You're going to get four F-15s out of the first fighter wing that is going to back up the Quits flight over Washington now. We don't have a call sign on them yet. Yeah, they told me that five minutes ago. Okay. FAA's controlling. Okay, you're getting four -- well, it was ID by type and tail, but now the thing's faded. BACKGROUND MALE: So I need to find out whether or not - MALE SPEAKER 6: Yeah. You're getting four F-15s out of the first fighter wing that's going to back up Otis. What we're looking -- back up Washington. Where we're looking is, put barrier caps over Boston, Chicago, Washington, and New York. BACKGROUND MALE: Washington? MALE SPEAKER 6: Washington, and you have -- you have Quit, you have Quit flights that are now from Langley, F-15, and you're going to get four from Langley, F-15s from first fighter wing, if that makes sense. BACKGROUND MALE: Who is the fourth one? MALE SPEAKER 6: New York. Wait, not New York, Chicago. We already got somebody -- hang on. Chicago -- Chicago, Boston, Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh. BACKGROUND MALE: I had my guys looking for tankers in the midwest, but Sanderson took a checklist and said he was going to call them. I don't know if he's getting (inaudible) or what. MALE SPEAKER 6: Okay. BACKGROUND MALE: We haven't called Chicago yet. We haven't called Milwaukee. We're getting tankers -MALE SPEAKER 6: Toledo was looking -yeah, Pittsburgh, and we got a number for them. BACKGROUND MALE: Well, we'll probably want to call Chicago and Milwaukee, but I don't know if he's doing it or what. MALE SPEAKER 6: Yeah, I'm here. First? Okay. Okay. The -- yeah, 364.2. Okay. We have one in 107, one in 108, and we have a 135 in Whiskey 105. A KC-10 in 108, in 107, KC-10 in 10 -- 107, and a 135 in Whiskey 105. Okay. And -- and we supposedly got tankers coming up out of Pittsburgh, but the Toledo guys worked that. I need a mission for them. They're airborne right now out of Toledo, but that
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MALE SPEAKER 6: Okay. And I told Lumpy he's got the internal (inaudible) expecting a Snake 11. BACKGROUND MALE: They're going to Misty Thunder if you're talking to them, and we've got tankers coming from Rickenbacker to support them. MALE SPEAKER 6: Hey, Lump, that's Snake 11 through 14 out of Atlantic City for Pittsburgh. BACKGROUND MALE: You can have them. You can leave them there. If I can't -- it's when I start to run out of Uniforms, I'll -MALE SPEAKER 6: 3552, 3552. BACKGROUND MALE: Okay. They're launching. MALE SPEAKER 6: Hang on. Then I need to -- I think I'm -- I think I'm moving up something up here. BACKGROUND MALE: Oh, they got Stings flying now. MALE SPEAKER 6: I'm looking for the radio site that was down here. BACKGROUND MALE: Quiet down. Use the intercom. MALE SPEAKER 6: That's what I've been given, I think. Okay, this is -- this is G-62, not J-62. BACKGROUND MALE: Yeah, I know. MALE SPEAKER 6: So is that really the right freqs? BACKGROUND MALE: Yeah. MALE SPEAKER 6: Because they're not being able to get it. BACKGROUND MALE: Is it functional? MALE SPEAKER 6: I don't know. BACKGROUND MALE: That's the radio we use, because 60 is out there. 62 -- the radio isn't located there. It's located somewhere else, but I don't remember where it is. MALE SPEAKER 6: But it's in the vicinity? I mean, the Stings are airborne here. MALE SPEAKER 13: Cobra 1, Huntress, loud and clear. Copy. Negative contact, (inaudible) ATC clearance. Get them directly into Misty Thunder. Expect some tankers from Rickenbacker. Call signs to be determined. Stand by mission. MALE SPEAKER 6: Okay, what are you doing with the Cobras? Are they heading to the Chicago area or what? MALE SPEAKER 13: Copy that. Are you off about 7 miles to the west of Syracuse? Copy. Vector 320. We'll head you out over Lake Ontario. MALE SPEAKER 6: Well, what's the plan -what's the plan for these guys? MALE SPEAKER 13: Sorry, stepped on. Say again? Excellent. Thank you. Maintain ATC squawk. Have number 2 go 541 -- 5402, please. MALE SPEAKER 6: Track numbers here are 213.
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MALE SPEAKER 13: Can you squawk 4617 4617, mode 3 for lead. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Track numbers here are 213 from Tanner, the border. A bunch of airplanes that are -- don't know what it is, so somebody's going to have to check that. Okay. (End of CD.)
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Transcribed by Heather Farrar from the CD provided to Alderson Reporting P R O C E E D I N G S ELECTRONIC VOICE: 12 hours, 30 minutes, 30 seconds. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: No, any information, that would be great. MALE SPEAKER 1: Okay. Right now I get to kind of work on, I guess there's (inaudible) in the cockpit. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: They've got a lot in front. MALE SPEAKER 1: We'll call you right back. I just want to see (inaudible). FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Thank you. MALE SPEAKER 1: Okay. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Forty miles north of JFK. FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Forty miles out of New York. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: We don't even know. FEMALE SPEAKER 2: We don't know how many (inaudible) on board. It was originally -FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Hold on. You heard that, right? FEMALE SPEAKER 2: They're going to New York. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Airborne. FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Hey, you know what? You know what? Let's get a tail number for American 11. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Call Boston, American 11 tail number. FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Tell them we need the
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tail number of the aircraft. MALE SPEAKER 2: American 11? FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Yes, it is . FEMALE SPEAKER 3: Right now I can find (inaudible) only. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Do you have (inaudible) or anything? FEMALE SPEAKER 3: I'm not showing anything, no. Hold on. I can get a lat long for (inaudible). FEMALE SPEAKER 2: We're going to get an updated lat long now. We've got an updated lat long. We called Boston and filed 114 -- 1443, but he's not -- he's not working that. He's on primary only. We're getting an updated lat long position and I'm -FEMALE SPEAKER 3: Okay. It's showing 39 North -FEMALE SPEAKER 2: 4039 North. FEMALE SPEAKER 3: And 7403 West. FEMALE SPEAKER 2: 7403 West. Did we get a tail number? FEMALE SPEAKER 1: That's where she said it was. I don't see anybody going -- but wait a minute (inaudible). FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Hello. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: 46 scramble. Got a Z point? FEMALE SPEAKER 2: 403924. BACKGROUND MALE: I got an 8-mile (inaudible) . FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Let's bring it up and find the primary. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Well, we're looking to see for a first target. In fact, all they have is primary. I don't see -- so she knows that. FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Call -- call her back and tell her that we want -- if it's possible that she has (inaudible), we need updates every 3 to 5 minutes. We need lat long updates. FEMALE SPEAKER l: Is there any way, ma'am, that we can get updates as far as the lat long for that aircraft, you know -FEMALE SPEAKER 3: The last thing I'm showing it's tracking coast right now, so I -FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Tracking coast (inaudible). FEMALE SPEAKER 3: It means we -- as far as I'm showing here, (inaudible). MALE SPEAKER 3: Hi. Good morning. This is (inaudible) military calling at New York center. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: How are you doing? MALE SPEAKER 3: Good, good. Our watch supervisor, he needs the number for a possible hijacking. He wants to call somebody in case they need some assistance with your fighter jets. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Our phone number is going to be -- (inaudible) or commercial? MALE SPEAKER 3: It would be commercial.
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FEMALE SPEAKER 1 Okay. It's going to be area code 315 -FEMALE SPEAKER 2 Just give him -FEMALE SPEAKER 1 I'm sorry -FEMALE SPEAKER 2 Give him -FEMALE SPEAKER 1 I know. They want the (inaudible) number. FEMALE SPEAKER 2 No, that's what I'm saying. Just give him this one. It doesn't matter. They're monitoring us anyway. You can contact 631-468-5959 and they can keep you more updated on that. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: That's military? FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Sorry? FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Is that New York military? FEMALE SPEAKER 1: No, that's (inaudible). MALE SPEAKER 2: Yes? I'm going to take care of it. All righty? Bye. MALE SPEAKER 1: I think we're working on that. I don't have anybody that (inaudible). FEMALE SPEAKER 1: No, any information, that would be great. MALE SPEAKER 1: Okay. Right now I (inaudible) the cockpit. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: We need -FEMALE SPEAKER 2: And they lost primary. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: New York center. He's getting the phone number for (inaudible) right now. (Inaudible). FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Okay, that's the one -that's the same number Shelly got. Did that -- did you get that to work? FEMALE SPEAKER 1: I tried -FEMALE SPEAKER 1: The 142 -- do you know the flight level of the second aircraft? MALE SPEAKER 1: I think we're working on that. I don't have anybody to cover it now, but -(inaudible). We don't have anybody close to him. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay. Thank you. MALE SPEAKER 4: I do not see a primary target at this moment. However, he's not in my airspace. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay. Just wanted to give you a heads up. I don't know if you know, but the World Trade Center's just been hit by an aircraft. FEMALE SPEAKER 2: We've lost primary on this guy. MALE SPEAKER 4: Do you have - - d o you have that confirmed? FEMALE SPEAKER 1: That is on the news, sir, right now. MALE SPEAKER 4: Okay. There's too many people talking at once. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: I hear that too. Thank you. If there's anything else we need, we'll give you a call.
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MALE SPEAKER 4: Okay. Thank you. FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Are we still trying to work a tail number on this guy? FEMALE SPEAKER 1: We have made the call. We have a hotline to New York military -- or, no, Boston military. Where is it as compared to a Z track? FEMALE SPEAKER 2: And they lost primary. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: New York center. MALE SPEAKER 4: Okay. I ran the Z point. (Inaudible) primary. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: (Inaudible) on the line right now, but that's number (inaudible) if you want to call them back. FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Okay. That's the one - - i s that the same number Shelly got? Did you get that to work? FEMALE SPEAKER 1: I tried -FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Call 1427. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Tried it on the phone. You can try the black phone. 631. FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Yep. Confirmation? Who's giving you that confirmation? They did crash into the World Trade Center. Who's giving you that confirmation? FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Boston. FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Boston's confirming -Boston's confirming that was the aircraft that crashed into the Trade Center. American 11. FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Boston's confirming it is the aircraft. MALE SPEAKER 5: (Inaudible) center. MALE SPEAKER 6: Yes, this is Major Anderson from the Northeast Air Defense Sector. MALE SPEAKER 5: Yes, sir. MALE SPEAKER 6: I'm looking for your SOF, if he's available. Actually, you can maybe answer my question. MALE SPEAKER 5: Yep. MALE SPEAKER 6: We're wanting to know how many aircraft you have down there with your spares, and how many pilots if we possibly need them. MALE SPEAKER 5 Four and three. MALE SPEAKER 6 You have four aircraft and three pilots? MALE SPEAKER 5 Yep. MALE SPEAKER 6 Okay. Are our three pilots there and able to fly? MALE SPEAKER 5 We have three total, so (inaudible), yeah. MALE SPEAKER 6 Okay. So basically what I'm requesting you to do is get those guys ready to go and keep them basically on status. We'll let you know once you know. MALE SPEAKER 5: Hang on one -- Borgy, come here. I got the SOF for you right now. MALE SPEAKER 6: Okay.
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MALE SPEAKER 6: Hey. This is Major Anderson, the MCC at NEADS MALE SPEAKER 7: Hey, what's up? MALE SPEAKER 6: If you guys have been watching the news, I'm sure you're probably aware now we're -- we're wanting to -- we just wanted to confirm your number of aircraft and pilots available if we need to scramble you guys, if we can scramble more than two. So I was told you have four airplanes and three pilots. Is that correct? MALE SPEAKER 7: That's correct, with no SOF. But yeah, we can get three airborne if we have to. MALE SPEAKER 6: Okay. Just stand by to stand by. We'll let you know if we need to do that, but you can only put three in the air, so we need to MALE SPEAKER 7:
Only two hot birds.
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understand that, correct? MALE SPEAKER 6 Understand that. Okay. MALE SPEAKER 7 MALE SPEAKER 6 Okay. MALE SPEAKER 7 All right. We'll, we'll gin another one up. MALE SPEAKER 6 Okay. Thanks. MALE SPEAKER 7 MALE SPEAKER 6 Thanks. Bye. Hey, Langley -- Langley has four aircraft, but they only got three pilots. So they can have two hot birds and they're ginning up the other one to fly. They can put three in the air if they have to. MALE SPEAKER 8: Well, actually, open up the 107. We got two tankers coming into 107. We'll probably end up taking those. MALE SPEAKER 9: We've got Langley on battle stations. We may end up scrambling them. We've got two tankers out of McGuire. MALE SPEAKER 6: Call signs? MALE SPEAKER 9: (Inaudible) something or other. I'll get you call signs. They're going to be coming out and holding in 107. MALE SPEAKER 6: Okay. Is there airspace in 107 yet? MALE SPEAKER 9: No. MALE SPEAKER 6: We'll work on that. Okay. Stand by. When we get the hang-off -MALE SPEAKER 9: Are we going to take Lumpy in here since he's in there and we'll find a (inaudible) just in case you need another telephone line to anybody? BACKGROUND MALE: Did you find (inaudible) yet? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No. We're going to (inaudible). MALE SPEAKER 9: Maine to Bangor tanker. Maine from Bangor.
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India, and Golf for a real world mission and we need them to get all other military aircraft out of (inaudible). MALE SPEAKER 6 :\s weapons 105. Okay. I would call McGuire approach. Ask them if they have a code on team 23. and 24. Hello. BACKGROUND MALE:\, right there, right? \0 UNIDENTIFIED MALE;
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that are going to passing over New York. I got a tanker in Northwestern 105 and I got two tankers I just grabbed out of McGuire who are going to cap in 107. Right now that's all I got. All the (inaudible) are heading home out of 105 (inaudible). UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No answer at McGuire. MALE SPEAKER 6: Several numbers for them. Oh wait, hold on. Well, we also - - w e put in the request to send up all Otis aircraft, so that makes things -- hey, you don't have a number for 106 fighter squadron anywhere, do you? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Not on this sheet. MALE SPEAKER 10: May day 5, Huntress. Be advised you have tankers doing intercept with (inaudible). MALE SPEAKER 6: Call the Giant Killer. Give him a heads up that we're going to be getting team 23 and team 24 out of McGuire going down to 107, ask them if they got any codes on them. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yeah, I never have either.
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aircraft headed towards Washington right now, an American Airliners. BACKGROUND MALE: Who's on New York right now? MALE SPEAKER 6: That's close enough for now. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We're getting more now. MALE SPEAKER 6: We're scrambling Langley through Washington area now. I need to intercept mission (inaudible) in area 4. Probably not squawking anything anyway. I mean, obviously these guys are in the cockpit. This is code 3332. We're going to keep it in 107, correct? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Correct, yeah. MALE SPEAKER 6: Okay. United in 21. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They're going to be getting Quit 2526. MALE SPEAKER 6: United Airliner 175, the second one -UNIDENTIFIED MALE: -- on 010 heading -MALE SPEAKER 6: A third one that's heading toward Washington now. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: -- flight 290. Okay? MALE SPEAKER 6: It'S an American Airliners. I don't know what the -UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He'll have to maintain corns with FAA and Victor (inaudible). Your mission will be to bring him up north. For now, just head him towards Baltimore Washington International. MALE SPEAKER 6: Okay, okay. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Tell them to coordinate with center that NORAD wants them to cap MALE SPEAKER 6:
American Airlines 11?
Right. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: -- over Baltimore Washington -- in the Baltimore Washington International -MALE SPEAKER 6: Do you know what type it is? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Gotcha. (Inaudible) off center. No problem. MALE SPEAKER 6: Get rid of that. Actually no, I want -- well, okay, that's fine for now. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Copy that. The third one -UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Okay. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: 25 and 26. Thank you. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Okay. And you scrambled Langley, correct? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm good, I'm good. I never got a -UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We don't have a place on him yet. We don't know where he's at yet. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Don't know where he's at?
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I mean, obviously these guys are in the cockpit They're not going to squawk in a code. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Team 21, Huntress on 234.6. How copy? Team 2223. Giant Killer, Huntress, 924 line, reference 107, and team 21. FEMALE SPEAKER 5: Giant Killer. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, Giant Killer, Huntress here. I'm not talking to team 21. I need to come over - - h e has to come over to 234.6 for Huntress. FEMALE SPEAKER 5: Okay, you want (inaudible) Huntress. Say again your frequency. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: 234.6. FEMALE SPEAKER 5:
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He's coming to
you. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: 107. We have team 23, we just got a radar hand-off on them from New York center. They're squawking 1641. They're returning to 107 in approximately one minute. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Copy that. Have them contact Huntress on 234.6. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: 234.6? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: All right. That's affirmative. And you have over through Echo, 5 to 50500 exclusively. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Copy that exclusive. Thanks. Papa Tango. MALE SPEAKER 6: Langley has three aircraft, so we have four aircraft -UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Okay, let's find them. MALE SPEAKER 6: He can get three airborne. Only two of them are hot. I passed that to the FO. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He's not even in our airspace yet. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Holy schnikes, Batman. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Okay. Here he comes. BACKGROUND MALE:
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old shit. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Team 21, team 21, Huntress, radar contract, sending out our angels 23 and 107. How copy? MALE SPEAKER 11: Team 21. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Team 21, maintain angels 23 rev, Whiskey 107, 6,000 flight level, 500 concurrent. Your mission is to orbit Whiskey 107. MALE SPEAKER 11: Team 21 copy. And I guess we'll hang out here until you tell us otherwise? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That's affirmative for team 21. Also we have team 23 should be entering the airspace in a few more minutes. Team 21, Huntress, requesting to know what your off-load is right now. Don't they have -MALE SPEAKER 11: We'll tell you in a couple minutes.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Right. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: 767. November 334, Alpha, Alpha. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Right. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He has never been found. He is not one of the aircraft that did that. They expected he -UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Are you watching for radar always? Because my -- my take is, obviously these guys are in the cockpit. They're probably strangling off the code. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Okay. We're going to hit up some track, see if we can find a likely -MALE SPEAKER 11: Huntress, team 21. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: -- intercept it and get a visual ID. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Okay. You want to move tankers into this area? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, but what we might do -UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Bring them later. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: - - w e may bring the second guy up at least in the 380 -MALE SPEAKER 11: Huntress, team 21. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Team 21, Huntress. Go ahead. MALE SPEAKER 11: We can off-load 43K. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Huntress copies 4 -about 43K. Thanks. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Okay. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: SC, 43K for team 21, for an off-load if you need it. How many -- how many team (inaudible)? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, sir, and (inaudible) been scrambled. You have a mode 3 on a Quit 25 (inaudible)? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hey, Steve. How many tankers do you have and what are their call signs? UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
I have team 21.
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going to be getting team 23 shortly. I don't know if team 23 is a flight (inaudible) yet or not. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Okay, so you got 21 and 23, it's coming to you? UNIDENTIFIED MALE : Yes. I have 21 now. BACKGROUND MALE: Q-u-i-t. UNIDENTIFIED MALE : Major Anderson, you got a second? UNIDENTIFIED MALE : Tell me what you need, John. I'11 get it. UNIDENTIFIED MALE : Have you asked -- have you asked the question what you're going to do if we actually find this guy? Are we going to shoot him down if they got passengers on board? Have they talked about that? BACKGROUND MALE: Airborne? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Airborne. Time? What's the airborne time on Langley? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We're getting it now. We got a flight at 3 airborne. BACKGROUND MALE: 25, 26, 27? MALE SPEAKER 6: Yeah. BACKGROUND MALE: Airborne time? MALE SPEAKER 6: They're still working on it. They don't have it yet. 25. 1325 airborne time for Langley. BACKGROUND MALE: 25? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: 25. BACKGROUND MALE: FAA'S back to Langley. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Okay. I got another aircraft, three aircrafts that are sort of missing. I got United and American -- American -BACKGROUND MALE: Say again? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We got a question for you. The military aircraft that are in the air right now. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, sir? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We were wondering if we should tell them to return to base if they're just on training missions or what you guys are -UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, no. They're actually on the active air for the DO out there. We did send the ones home in 105 that were on the training mission. They are sent home. The Pantas are out there for (inaudible). UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Right. I understand that. I'm talking about -- I think there's someone training up in Falcon area. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh, Falcon? Stand by. Let me UNIDENTIFIED MALE: In that training -BACKGROUND MALE: Call Syracuse. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If send him home. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If send him home?
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Right. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Makes sense to me. I'll run it up to the FO, but -UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yeah, yeah, go -- go ahead and send them home. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Okay. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Not yet. We're working with FAA. There is sketchy coming out of FAA. BACKGROUND FEMALE: Is it all right if -UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yeah. They're -they're on it now. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Say again? No, I don't need the chair, no. Take them. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What's the code? BACKGROUND MALE: Delta what? BACKGROUND FEMALE: 89. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Code? So that's a special 089? BACKGROUND FEMALE: Yeah, that's another (inaudible). Delta 89, Bravo (inaudible). MALE SPEAKER 6: They're heading there now. Friggin' Giant Killer in their wisdom sent them out over the water when we scrambled them to Washington. No. BACKGROUND MALE: Delta 89 from Boston. MALE SPEAKER 6: Yeah. That's the one that shot to Cleveland now. And I passed that to weapons so they're know -- they're aware of it. This is fucking -- all six (inaudible). This is another possible hijack right there. We got Langley -- Giant Killer, we scrambled them out to Washington. Langley -- Giant Killer sent them out over the water. Yeah, we had -- and we had a radar-only hit that was turning into -- into the Washington area, so they're out over the water now heading to Washington. We've got Otis scrambled out that was in 105 but is heading up to the New York City area to hang out over there, and we got three tankers all out over the water. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And they got tankers (inaudible) anything available? Can they arm -- I don't think they can arm anybody in time, but -MALE SPEAKER 6: Yeah, that's a -- that's a good call. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Talk to me about Selfridge. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yeah, they got guards posted all over. They ought to have some -UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Quit 25, Huntress. Confirm all birds squawking quad 7. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Affirmative. All birds are squawking. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Quit 25, read back correct. I show the tab Bra 310, 95 miles. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, you're going to have to go up to another setting. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Quit 25, traffic, Bra 310, 22, 25,000, track east.
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Polk Field, there's no
spaces. MALE SPEAKER 6: The track's 43 miles Yeah. Hey Mo? BACKGROUND MALE: Yeah? MALE SPEAKER 6: That guy south of Cleveland, it's still a hijack, right? Okay. We're scrambling Toledo on him right now. Okay. We're
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scrambling Toledo on him now. Sergeant Powell? BACKGROUND MALE: Yes? MALE SPEAKER 6: Shadow monitor is a mission on that. BACKGROUND MALE: I want to know whose authority. BACKGROUND MALE: We don't have any authority over him. MALE SPEAKER 6: Yeah. I mean, they got to work it through FAA. BACKGROUND MALE: What can I do? BACKGROUND MALE: Was that Toledo or Selfridge? MALE SPEAKER 6: Toledo. Do we want to call Selfridge and see if they've got anything? Yeah, Toledo's actually a better position. Selfridge would have to chase the guy down. MALE SPEAKER 12: All right, Captain Nagel. How are you? MALE SPEAKER 13: You guys been watching CNN? MALE SPEAKER 12: Yes, sir. MALE SPEAKER 13: Okay. There's another one, south of you guys, 70 miles, about 40 miles east of Toledo. MALE SPEAKER 12: Excuse me? MALE SPEAKER 13: There's another one, another hijack, another hijack. BACKGROUND MALE: Possible hijack. MALE SPEAKER 13: A possible hijack south of you guys. We're just wondering if you guys are flying. MALE SPEAKER 12: We're landing now. We're approaching down right now. MALE SPEAKER 13: Okay. MALE SPEAKER 12: We're starting to get these guys down. MALE SPEAKER 13: Okay. We're just trying to find if there's anybody to play. I know nobody would be armed more than likely, but that would just be too much to ask if there's some AIM-12Os on board. MALE SPEAKER 12: Well, we are possibly armed, yes. Hang on one second. I'm going to give you Colonel Pep, okay? MALE SPEAKER 13: Perfect. Thanks. MALE SPEAKER 12: All right. MALE SPEAKER 14: Colonel Peplinsky. MALE SPEAKER 13: Hi, sir. I t ' s Brian Nagel.
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do is we'll take a look and see what we got. Do you know where these guys are trending to right now? MALE SPEAKER 13: Yeah, it's heading west. It was filed to -UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Las Vegas. MALE SPEAKER 13: Vegas originally. MALE SPEAKER 14: Okay. MALE SPEAKER 13: And Duluth (inaudible), because we tried them already too, because they're kind of nice route for them to pick up, because they're -- they're overhead Toledo in about a half a minute. MALE SPEAKER 14: Okay. Have you talked to Toledo or -MALE SPEAKER 13: Another guy's on -another guy's on the phone with him right now. MALE SPEAKER 14: Yeah. I was going to say Fort Wayne and -MALE SPEAKER 13 Fort Wayne? MALE SPEAKER 14 Try Fort Wayne and Springfield, Ohio, too. MALE SPEAKER 13 Springfield? MALE SPEAKER 14 I mean, not Springfield, Ohio, Springfield, Illinois. MALE SPEAKER 13 Okay. Do you know numbers for any of those? MALE SPEAKER 14 Do we have numbers for any of those? Probably not. Here, I'll get some for you. Hold on. MALE SPEAKER 13: Thank you, sir. Sounds like Toledo's got something to launch. What can we talk to anybody there with? MALE SPEAKER 6: 328.0 is out of 62. 328.0 is out of 62. That's right in that area. MALE SPEAKER 13: Flip your switch, Jaime? MALE SPEAKER 6: It's coming to me? UNIDENTIFIED MALE We're showing a cap .250 for 20 miles. UNIDENTIFIED MALE 250. MALE SPEAKER 6: They're talking to them trying to find a -- uh-oh. Just turned north. BACKGROUND MALE: Okay, I need -MALE SPEAKER 6: Okay, we got -BACKGROUND MALE: -- the Toledo guys. MALE SPEAKER 6: Yeah. They're coming up on 328.0, BACKGROUND MALE:
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up? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Selfridge guys are just landing now. They got like 4,000 pounds. I was told Toledo was coming up on 328.0 and I got them. Hey, scramble me out some Symbology. MALE SPEAKER 13: There's a bunch of stuff going on right now. Just over Toledo. Yeah, that's the way I look at it too. MALE SPEAKER 6: He ain't going to Vegas. BACKGROUND MALE: Ain't going to Vegas. MALE SPEAKER 6: Hey, Jeremy, I'm waiting
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on 328.0 for - - d o you have a call sign for the Toledo guys? They're not taking off with fuel? BACKGROUND MALE: Yeah, they're taking off with fuel, but -MALE SPEAKER 6: We'll work -- we'll work that real time. Give me a call sign and an airborne time and a code. BACKGROUND MALE: Sting 11. MALE SPEAKER 6: Code? Sting 11 out of Toledo. Are you still talking to Selfridge? BACKGROUND MALE: Yes. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Are you letting him know he's coming towards him now? BACKGROUND MALE: Yep. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How fast can they turn those jets? MALE SPEAKER 14 892 -MALE SPEAKER 13 Yep. MALE SPEAKER 14 8202. MALE SPEAKER 13 8202. Okay. MALE SPEAKER 14 Yeah. MALE SPEAKER 13 Okay. The guy is 54 miles from you now at 24,000 feet. He's going more easterly now. He's heading back over Lake -- Lake Erie there now. MALE SPEAKER 14: Oh, he's heading over Lake Erie? MALE SPEAKER 13: Yeah. He was pointed directly towards you and 50 miles south, and now he's heading east again at 24,000 over south of Lake Erie (inaudible) now. MALE SPEAKER 14: Okay. What -- here -here's what we can do. At a minimum, we can keep our guys airborne. I mean, they don't have -- they don't have any guns or missiles or anything on board -MALE SPEAKER 13:; It's a presence though. MALE SPEAKER 14 :: What's that? MALE SPEAKER 1: It's a presence -MALE SPEAKER 6: Did these Toledo guys come up yet, do you know? BACKGROUND MALE: Not yet. I got 328.0 (inaudible) Langley. Selfridge is holding in the air for the time being. MALE SPEAKER 6: Yeah, but with 4.0 they can't hold very long. BACKGROUND MALE: I know. I'll call up (inaudible) in a second. MALE SPEAKER 13: As soon as these guys are airborne, I'll tell Peplinsky to go -- look at where he's heading now too. BACKGROUND MALE: What do you got -- what do you got with Toledo? MALE SPEAKER 6: We're trying to get Toledo airborne. Selfridge has got guys in the air right now that we're getting ready to land. They've only got like 4.0 on the - - o n the gas, so they're going to be able to stay up. So we're -MALE SPEAKER 13: Is Toledo -- are you
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get a Sting 11 flight out of Toledo. We're coming up on 328.0. MALE SPEAKER 13: Were they going on a gun (inaudible), let's hope? MALE SPEAKER 6: Yeah, who knows. I don't think they were doing anything. They just happened to have them. Yeah, out of site 62. BACKGROUND MALE: Is Toledo controlling? MALE SPEAKER 13: They're going to do what? They're going to control it? Outstanding. Okay, I'll find the status as soon as he gets airborne, what he needs. That kind of depends on how far he's got to track this guy too. It depends on what happens. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yeah, why don't we slide a chair over here if we're going to control. What's the two letters? MALE SPEAKER 6: They don't have any. BACKGROUND FEMALE: Do you have enough controllers? MALE SPEAKER 6: I'm getting ready to take Toledo guys myself. BACKGROUND FEMALE: Okay. You've got guys taking off out of Alpena, okay? MALE SPEAKER 6: Okay. Who are they? BACKGROUND FEMALE: Springfield -- I don't have call signs on them. There's guys -- they're deployed to Alpena. They're from Springfield. MALE SPEAKER 6: Okay. BACKGROUND FEMALE: Okay? And they're going to be coming up -MALE SPEAKER 6: For this guy? BACKGROUND FEMALE: With guns. MALE SPEAKER 6: With guns. Outstanding. MALE SPEAKER 13: Everybody's doing guns. That's why I'm thinking Toledo might have guns on board. BACKGROUND FEMALE: That's all they had. They were deployed from (inaudible). I don't know where they're going to go. It can't come up on frequency. Colonel Marr (inaudible). MALE SPEAKER 6: Yeah, 328.0. Is that what -BACKGROUND FEMALE: Huh? MALE SPEAKER 6: 328.0 is the freq that we're looking for, tell them to come up on. BACKGROUND FEMALE: Okay. I don't know if they passed that. You should be getting a call from Alpena (inaudible) Huntress control. So Alpena will call us. MALE SPEAKER 13: Did you get a call sign? BACKGROUND FEMALE: No, no call sign. MALE SPEAKER 6: Why don't we give them a call? MALE SPEAKER 13:
Okay, go ahead.
I'm
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going to tell Peplinsky to land this guy. MALE SPEAKER 6: Alpena. I don't have anybody from - - o h that was a -- there was a Springfield guy, but they're deployed to Alpena. Alpena is Selfridge, right? That's where they fly into, Selfridge flies into Alpena? MALE SPEAKER 13: Hi. Can I speak to Colonel Peplinsky, please? BACKGROUND MALE: Are you (inaudible)? MALE SPEAKER 6: Right now I'm getting ready to control. MALE SPEAKER 13: The guy's south over Lake Erie so I'm thinking he's too far away for your guys with their fuel. Do you have the Alpena -phone number for Alpena handy? MALE SPEAKER 6: Alpena's way the hell out here though. MALE SPEAKER 13: And do you want a quick point-out where this guy's at for your own information? Yeah, it's -- oops, sorry, that's 180, 73 miles, heading southeast, He's now at 9,000 and descending, so. And do we know what kind MALE SPEAKER 14 of airplane? MALE SPEAKER 1: Possibly a 767. MALE SPEAKER 14: Okay. All right. Thanks. MALE SPEAKER 13: As the other two, so. MALE SPEAKER 14 : Okay. I'll keep you advised MALE SPEAKER 13 when we know more, and thanks for your help. MALE SPEAKER 14: All right. Bye. MALE SPEAKER 6: He's going to keep -he's going to turn those guys? For Alpena? What was that again? See, that -- that's too far away. We still got the best shot with the Toledo guys to get them if they come up. Are you taking an SC position, Lump? MALE SPEAKER 13: Hi, good morning. It's Captain Nagel from Huntress. MALE SPEAKER 6: Yeah, probably it's going to help to divide the workload. MALE SPEAKER 13: Good. I hear a couple of tankers are going airborne shortly and they might have been (inaudible)? MALE SPEAKER 6: Correct? FEMALE SPEAKER 6: Not that I'm aware of. I know we have a couple of birds up, but they're coming -- they're returning to base. MALE SPEAKER 13: Okay. Do you know their call sign? FEMALE SPEAKER 6: The two that are -MALE SPEAKER 13: Oh, okay. Right then. That's what we're after. Okay. Where are they coming back from? 4201? Okay. That's what I need to know. BACKGROUND MALE: What number's good for Chicago?
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BACKGROUND MALE: Call one of the other centers and get a good number. MALE SPEAKER 6: I'm going to call and see if this guy's airborne yet. FEMALE SPEAKER 7: Base ops. Sergeant Vankirk speaking. May I help you? MALE SPEAKER 6: Yes, this is Major Anderson from Huntress calling. I'm looking for word on a Sting 11 and 12 flight that were supposed to work a possible hijacked plane through FAA and come up on our frequency. FEMALE SPEAKER 7: Stand by, sir. MALE SPEAKER 15: Yeah, this is Lieutenant Colonel Bartman. Sting 11 should be airborne any minute here right now, and we've got a tanker at Pittsburgh that's ready to go, I guess, and he's trying to get airborne as well. MALE SPEAKER 6: Okay, Do you have a call sign on a code on the tankers? MALE SPEAKER 15: No, I do not. I have no idea. You guys are going to have to probably call Pittsburgh to get that information. Their phone number for their base ops is (inaudible) 277-7347. MALE SPEAKER 6: Okay. Copy that, and confirm 5106, the code for Sting 11. MALE SPEAKER 15: We can give that to him. 5106, we'll tell him, make sure that they're squawking that. MALE SPEAKER 6: Okay. That was what I got passed through the FAA. They're working through the FAA. They're coming up our frequency 328.0 for information. MALE SPEAKER 15: Right. Exactly, That's what -- that's what we told them to do. MALE SPEAKER 6: Okay. Okay. Thanks lot. MALE SPEAKER 15: Okay. You bet. MALE SPEAKER 6: Bye. Okay. They should be airborne shortly. They're working -- they're working a tanker out of Pittsburgh and they gave me a number for their base ops. Yeah. Yeah, I am actually. MALE SPEAKER 13: Have you guys watched CNN today? Okay. Well, here's the shock of the day. They're may be a third one and we're hustling to see if we can find anybody that can fly in the area. Right now he's overhead of -- what the hell's that town there? DJB? East of Toledo about 60 miles, heading east at 8,000. That's what I'm wondering, if you got anything, especially if you got guns on board. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Okay. Why can't I log in as weapons? I'm forgetting my weapons log-in? If he wants that, he's taking a second FD position. Okay, we need to refuel this Symbology then. And then log on as 2-4. MALE SPEAKER 13: We don't know how far he's going to go, but he's heading back east again so
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we're trying to sort that out. I'll give you a quick (inaudible) to get an idea where he's at. From where you are, 55, 260.9. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Bravo 089, special over by Toledo. MALE SPEAKER 6: I know. We've been watching him and waiting for Toledo to come up airborne. No, your Symbology was hooked. BACKGROUND MALE: Okay. I'll fix that console. MALE SPEAKER 6: I'm waiting for Sting to get airborne. Yeah. Lumpy is right next to me. He's setting up -- they're splitting the FDs. They're going through (inaudible). BACKGROUND MALE: I don't know if he's airborne. MALE SPEAKER 6: Okay. What -- what assets do we have? BACKGROUND MALE: MCC, we got an air track reported over the White House. Intercept? BACKGROUND MALE: Intercept. BACKGROUND MALE: Intercept. MALE SPEAKER 6: How close are you to intercepting Washington? BACKGROUND MALE: Huh? MALE SPEAKER 6: How close are you to that aircraft over Washington? Do you have a type? They're right on him right now. They're going in now. They're looking for a type right now. Yes, it is.
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know also the White House has ADA assets, just so they know. Hey, Steve's supposed to be airborne. Can you talk to him? BACKGROUND MALE: Yes. Can you call 6180 extension for that, please? BACKGROUND MALE: Talk to me about Sting. MALE SPEAKER 6: He's ID'ing a possible hijack. They have a special out here over the lake as a possible hijack. It was at 7 -- well, it started out 24,000, last I saw it was 7,000 and slow descent. Hey, Jeff? Hey, Jeff, he's supposed to come up 328.0 out of site 62. FAA -- FAA's supposed to work the intercept. He's just up our freq for coordination. Hey, Colonel Sanderson, are you still on? Hey, my only question is what do you want to do, just like set up, I think we should set up fighters right over those cities, I mean, because you don't know what avenue of approach anybody would be coming from. Hey, what we're looking to do is put barrier caps over Chicago, Boston, Pittsburgh, and Washington. BACKGROUND MALE: What's that? MALE SPEAKER 6: We're looking to put barrier caps over these four cities. BACKGROUND MALE: Washington, Boston, Pitt, and -MALE SPEAKER 6: Yeah, we already -actually we already got Langley over - - w e got Langley over Washington right now, so. BACKGROUND MALE: Did anybody phone the first fighter wing and starting generating maybe some eagles or something? MALE SPEAKER 6: First fighter wing is generating jets right now. They are generating jets. BACKGROUND MALE: I can't get a DSN line. I'm trying to phone Pittsburgh and tell them MALE SPEAKER 6: Why can't we get this to assigned anything? BACKGROUND MALE: I don't know. MALE SPEAKER 6: Okay. Drop them. Just drop them and write up a sign. Let's go. BACKGROUND MALE: The special in Ohio faded. MALE SPEAKER 6: In Ohio -- you mean the guy over the -BACKGROUND MALE: The guy near Toledo, Cleveland. MALE SPEAKER 6: Toledo'S supposed to be airborne. That special track just faded. Oh, you're talking Langley? Okay. Hang on. Okay, that's a bust. They -- Washington was reporting our guys overhead, so there is no aircraft over Washington. And we're going to keep them there for the barrier cap over Washington. We're working three more assets over the other cities. That's the Langley birds. Who are the Langley birds? Quits. Yeah. Okay. You want to put them over the cities? Okay. So you want -- okay, so we're going to take them to the
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Washington area also. Do we have call signs on them? Okay. Hey, Foxy. They're going to get four more F-15s from first fighter wing out of Langley from the Washington area. BACKGROUND MALE: Just a heads up, Lumpy and (inaudible) are going to be my SESC techs for the midwest, so anything about that, go straight to them. BACKGROUND MALE: Four more F-15s out of Langley? MALE SPEAKER 6: Out of Langley, first fighter wing, yeah. Hey, so you're -- you're handling internal stuff direct? Okay. Hey, Sergeant Marr, when you get a chance, call the first fighter wing. You're going to get four F-15s out of the first fighter wing that is going to back up the Quits flight over Washington now. We don't have a call sign on them yet. Yeah, they told me that five minutes ago. Okay. FAA's controlling. Okay, you're getting four -- well, it was ID by type and tail, but now the thing's faded. BACKGROUND MALE: So I need to find out whether or not - MALE SPEAKER 6: Yeah. You're getting four F-15s out of the first fighter wing that's going to back up Otis. What we're looking -- back up Washington. Where we're looking is, put barrier caps over Boston, Chicago, Washington, and New York. BACKGROUND MALE: Washington? MALE SPEAKER 6: Washington, and you have -- you have Quit, you have Quit flights that are now from Langley, F-15, and you're going to get four from Langley, F-15s from first fighter wing, if that makes sense. BACKGROUND MALE: Who is the fourth one? MALE SPEAKER 6: New York. Wait, not New York, Chicago. We already got somebody -- hang on. Chicago -- Chicago, Boston, Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh. BACKGROUND MALE: I had my guys looking for tankers in the midwest, but Sanderson took a checklist and said he was going to call them. I don't know if he's getting (inaudible) or what. MALE SPEAKER 6: Okay. BACKGROUND MALE: We haven't called Chicago yet. We haven't called Milwaukee. We're getting tankers -MALE SPEAKER 6: Toledo was looking -yeah, Pittsburgh, and we got a number for them. BACKGROUND MALE: Well, we'll probably want to call Chicago and Milwaukee, but I don't know if he's doing it or what. MALE SPEAKER 6: Yeah, I'm here. First? Okay. Okay. The -- yeah, 364.2. Okay. We have one in 107, one in 108, and we have a 135 in Whiskey 105. A KC-10 in 108, in 107, KC-10 in 10 -- 107, and a 135 in Whiskey 105. Okay. And -- and we supposedly got tankers coming up out of Pittsburgh, but the Toledo guys worked that. I need a mission for them. They're airborne right now out of Toledo, but that
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20 special faded. I think we should just shoot them up 21 to the area that it was headed. Yes. It faded just 22 north of the lake. And Sting is just airborne out of 23 Toledo right now. Okay. Will do. Yeah, they got to 24 turn their jets though. Okay. Let me pass that to 25 Foxy now. 0052 1 BACKGROUND MALE: In fact, you can clear 2 out both cameras down there, guys. 3 MALE SPEAKER 6: Can you maybe do the 4 unknown rider calls? I think they're pretty 5 saturated. BACKGROUND FEMALE: I don't mind doing 6 7 them. Do you want me to? MALE SPEAKER 6: Yeah, why not? 8 BACKGROUND FEMALE: Oh, okay. 9 BACKGROUND MALE: Yes, please. 53, 364.2 10 11 is what we were talking about. 12 MALE SPEAKER 6: Hey, mission for Sting is 13 to -BACKGROUND MALE: Lumpy -- Lumpy's got the 14 15 Sting. MALE SPEAKER 6: You were the one that 16 17 asked for the mission. Or was it Lumpy? BACKGROUND MALE: No, it was Lumpy. 18 MALE SPEAKER 6: Hey, Lumpy, mission for 19 20 BACKGROUND MALE: Bravo 083 has faded. We 21 were supposed to originally ID that guy, but he 22 23 faded. MALE SPEAKER 6: Yeah, search the last 24 known area, see if they got any contacts there. 25 0053 That's the mission for Sting. I gotcha. The F-15s 1 out of Langley, first 01 through 04. 2 BACKGROUND MALE: 01 through 04. 3 MALE SPEAKER 6: Yeah, they passed them 4 AITC as a frequency. You can pull them up to 5 anything else if you want once you get them up. 6 BACKGROUND MALE: And they're my assets 7 for Chicago? 8 MALE SPEAKER 6: They're -- no, they want 9 -- they want to use these guys over Washington and 10 11 ping pong them off to let them refuel. You got tankers out in 12 BACKGROUND MALE: 01, 04 is going to 13 Washington, right? 14 BACKGROUND MALE: Yeah, and they're going 15 16 to be -17 MALE SPEAKER 6: He said you have 18 everything over the land. He's telling me -- every 19 time I tell him something about anything over the 20 land, he's telling me you got everything over the 21 land. All right. I'll pass that to him then. Excuse me. 22 23 BACKGROUND MALE: Not yet. I'm still 24 waiting. I'm trying to get through. 25 MALE SPEAKER 6: Who are you calling? 0054 1 BACKGROUND MALE: Syracuse.
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MALE SPEAKER 6: Okay. And I told Lumpy he's got the internal (inaudible) expecting a Snake 11. BACKGROUND MALE: They're going to Misty Thunder if you're talking to them, and we've got tankers coming from Rickenbacker to support them. MALE SPEAKER 6: Hey, Lump, that's Snake 11 through 14 out of Atlantic City for Pittsburgh. BACKGROUND MALE: You can have them. You can leave them there. If I can't -- it's when I start to run out of Uniforms, I'll -MALE SPEAKER 6: 3552, 3552. BACKGROUND MALE: Okay. They're launching. MALE SPEAKER 6: Hang on. Then I need to -- I think I'm -- I think I'm moving up something up here. BACKGROUND MALE: Oh, they got Stings flying now. MALE SPEAKER 6: I'm looking for the radio site that was down here. BACKGROUND MALE: Quiet down. Use the intercom. MALE SPEAKER 6: That's what I've been given, I think. Okay, this is -- this is G-62, not J-62. BACKGROUND MALE: Yeah, I know. MALE SPEAKER 6: So is that really the right freqs? BACKGROUND MALE: Yeah. MALE SPEAKER 6: Because they're not being able to get it. BACKGROUND MALE: Is it functional? MALE SPEAKER 6: I don't know. BACKGROUND MALE: That's the radio we use, because 60 is out there. 62 -- the radio isn't located there. It's located somewhere else, but I don't remember where it is. MALE SPEAKER 6: But it's in the vicinity? I mean, the Stings are airborne here. MALE SPEAKER 13: Cobra 1, Huntress, loud and clear. Copy. Negative contact, (inaudible) ATC clearance. Get them directly into Misty Thunder. Expect some tankers from Rickenbacker. Call signs to be determined. Stand by mission. MALE SPEAKER 6: Okay, what are you doing with the Cobras? Are they heading to the Chicago area or what? MALE SPEAKER 13: Copy that. Are you off about 7 miles to the west of Syracuse? Copy. Vector 320. We'll head you out over Lake Ontario. MALE SPEAKER 6: Well, what's the plan -what's the plan for these guys? MALE SPEAKER 13: Sorry, stepped on. Say again? Excellent. Thank you. Maintain ATC squawk. Have number 2 go 541 -- 5402, please. MALE SPEAKER 6: Track numbers here are 213.
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MALE SPEAKER 13: Can you squawk 4617 4617, mode 3 for lead. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Track numbers here are 213 from Tanner, the border. A bunch of airplanes that are -- don't know what it is, so somebody's going to have to check that. Okay. (End of CD.)
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