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MEMORANDUM

FOR THE RECORD

Event: Interview of Doug Perdue Date: November 5, 2003 Special Access Issues: None Prepared

by: Dieter Snell

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Location: FBI Baltimore Field Office Participants - Commission: Dieter Snell, Hyon Kim FBI Representative:

Bob Sinton

Supervisory Special Agent Doug Perdue arrived at the Baltimore office in January 2001, following a stint as RFU chief at headquarters, and was assigned to head up the counterterrorism squad. By April, however, the office had no more money to pay informants, Nonetheless, Perdue was able to develop some familiarity with mosques in the area by September 2001 . ~ 0Il ::illlltember !Q 21l0~, perdue. received an EC from Detroit disclosing the sup-posed move ~o Gaithersburg. This information pr.oved erroneous, actually/moved to Dallas before later arriving in College Park. Perdue already wasfamiliar with lrrom Perdue's prior position in Dallas, where] Iwas known to,the SDNY I.(-A-U"'S'!""A-:' -D"'aveKelley) as an associate of Wadih El-~~ge. An interview 9 Iconducted in the presence of his attorney. Stanley Cohen), was ,conducted at DOJ; PerdUe did not participate in the' ~~vi~ w I

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I~htediatelY after 9/11, a special agent and an ~nalyst were assigned to each-of the 5 hijackers ofF~ight 77, as well as to Atta and Jarrah. After 1 Y2 years of investigation, Penttbom found no connection between Rageah and 9/11, and the eriminal case against him was declined

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Rageah'has, however, turned out to be connected to GRF in a fundraising capacity. Despite a concerted effort to help Patrick Fitzgerald (US Attorney in Chicago) develop a criminal case on this front, '~o charges could be brought. The case was closed after Rageah returned to Canada to start a new job in January 2003. \

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After 9111, representatives of the Dar Us Salaam refused to meet or speak with the FBI. The Johnnycake Mosque, led by Muhammed Al-Sheikh, is also considered to be quite radical. The Khalid Ali case arose during the Bureau's intensive canvassing of all businesses and residences along the Route 1 corridor. An employee at a car rental establishment claimed to remember seeing Ali praying with Hani Hanjour. Based on the rest of the information developed on Ali, Perdue believes this identification likely was mistaken. The other incident of note concerning Ali involved his bizarre disposal of the remote car

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