Journalism Student Survey: What Would You Like To See Dropped From Your Curriculum?
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Journalism Student Survey 1. What would you like to see dropped from your curriculum? Response Count 113 answered question
113
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31
Response Text 1
I'd like to see a greater flexibility and availability of choice. That means cutting May 11, 2009 7:00 AM back on the core modules and allowing extra credit choice elsewhere - so I can go and take a crash course in HTML/CSS if I want to.
2
RTVF1, or sound and image aesthetics, which has no journalism tie-in. All it is May 11, 2009 7:08 AM is a repository for TV/film majors to play with cameras before actually learning how to do anything. Recast the class for journalists.
3
Introductory courses that try too hard to ease students into our curriculum. May 11, 2009 7:23 AM Maybe I'm being too much of a hardass, but I just don't think we have time for hand-holding any more.
4
nothing.
May 11, 2009 12:12 PM
5
Nothing, but it is run as an english program which is no longer enough in the changing field
May 11, 2009 12:51 PM
6
There's a mass media survey I've avoided taking. I eye with suspicion any class that depends entirely on reading and listening to lectures.
May 11, 2009 2:18 PM
7
Media culture studies are not so important for journalism
May 11, 2009 2:48 PM
8
Nothing I think the course covers all aspects of journalism
May 11, 2009 2:51 PM
9
mac 101, 201, 301 often dont relate to the journalism and more often than not just common sense.
May 11, 2009 2:52 PM
10
News and Online writing - I'm taking a magazine route, not a new route!
May 11, 2009 3:05 PM
11
ethics, it can easily be blended into the critical thinking module
May 11, 2009 3:12 PM
12
Any multimedia session which does not give students a specific task
May 11, 2009 3:12 PM
13
The "philosophy" modules
May 11, 2009 3:12 PM
14
Ethics
May 11, 2009 3:15 PM
15
Nothing. We can only learn more skills.
May 11, 2009 3:17 PM
16
HTML
May 11, 2009 3:17 PM
17
Mass Communication Research.
May 11, 2009 3:19 PM
18
Shorthand. Waste of time.
May 11, 2009 3:20 PM
19
perhaps a little less journalism theory/academic courses, however those elements shouldn't be dropped altogether.
May 11, 2009 3:28 PM
20
Nothing I guess, I just want more variety.
May 11, 2009 3:45 PM
21
Less history about the web, less theory and more practice.
May 11, 2009 3:45 PM
22
Nothing.
May 11, 2009 5:02 PM
23
I have to admit even the tedious bits (ie. government!) are useful and necessary - so, sadly, nothing!
May 11, 2009 5:28 PM
24
shorthand and Public Administration
May 11, 2009 6:03 PM
25
Maths/statistics quizes
May 11, 2009 6:15 PM
1 of 4
Response Text 26
History. I can understand how important it is to have a working knowledge of recent historical events, but two essays and an exam each year on Hitler's rise to power probably holds very little relevance to our course.
May 11, 2009 6:15 PM
27
Feature and Magazine Writing
May 11, 2009 6:17 PM
28
Everything seems to be worthwhile.
May 11, 2009 6:17 PM
29
Nothing. I want as much as they'll teach me.
May 11, 2009 6:17 PM
30
Essay writing
May 11, 2009 6:31 PM
31
n/a
May 11, 2009 6:32 PM
32
Modules studying the future of journalism.
May 11, 2009 6:39 PM
33
Too much emphasis on video, but without proper equipment.
May 11, 2009 6:43 PM
34
Academic subjects! Over the years I feel like far too much emphasis has been May 11, 2009 7:10 PM placed on analysing the future of journalism. Obviously it should be discussed in one semester - but not three years.
35
Nothing really.
May 11, 2009 8:39 PM
36
Compulsory shorthand tests. I think it should be there for people who want to learn it and who still think that
May 11, 2009 8:53 PM
37
I think the Public Admin part of the NCTJ curriculum is a waste of time for many journalists. Many will not go into political reporting. It is something that should be picked up, rather than taught at this level.
May 11, 2009 8:59 PM
38
multimedia for journalists
May 11, 2009 9:23 PM
39
The option for a print-only sequence.
May 11, 2009 9:35 PM
40
politics
May 11, 2009 10:07 PM
41
Some of our three courses of photography should transition into video practice. Also, political reporting should not be required.
May 11, 2009 10:51 PM
42
I think all of the modules I completed were useful.
May 11, 2009 11:52 PM
43
Unimportant tasks given out during lesson
May 12, 2009 8:16 AM
44
Unimportant tasks given out during lesson
May 12, 2009 8:16 AM
45
Nothing
May 12, 2009 8:18 AM
46
Essay and theory style writing. Should concentrate on news or magazine writing.
May 12, 2009 8:18 AM
47
Media studies.
May 12, 2009 8:18 AM
48
Media studies.
May 12, 2009 8:18 AM
49
Media Studies Language of the media
May 12, 2009 8:19 AM
50
Media Studies - pointless and time consuming
May 12, 2009 8:20 AM
51
Academic research
May 12, 2009 8:20 AM
52
I don't think anything should be dropped. Maybe a few things are more important than others
May 12, 2009 8:21 AM
53
difficult to say as i dont think amything should be dropped but certainly the web module 'multimedia for journalists' needs some fine tuning.
May 12, 2009 9:37 AM
54
Nothing
May 12, 2009 10:48 AM
55
Less boring stories that nobody would ever want to read.
May 12, 2009 10:52 AM
56
Not as much focus on news reporting writing.
May 12, 2009 10:52 AM
57
Media/Cultural Studies modules. I do not think these type of modules benefit me.
May 12, 2009 10:52 AM
58
Modules that do not seem to have much relevance, particularly after the first year such as media studies and media contexts.
May 12, 2009 10:53 AM
59
Courses that repeat things that are already learnt in the first year and nothing new is learnt in the second year.
May 12, 2009 10:53 AM
2 of 4
Response Text 60
Classes which do not have any relevance to the degree and involve too many May 12, 2009 10:57 AM essays and not enough practical work. News and Online writing because I have no interest in news writing and I think this should have been made an option. I am sure many other students who are on the magazine option would agree.
61
Although it is a very important module, Media Law feels somewhat pointless for those wishing to do magazine journalism, as court stories seem less likely to appear in magazines as opposed to newspapers, so although I don't feel it needs to be dropped from the curriculum, I feel that it's position in Magazine Journalism should be re-assessed.
May 12, 2009 10:58 AM
62
Media Studies modules that have an extremely tenous link to practical journalism, and over theorise the concept behind news outlets. Just gets frustrating.
May 12, 2009 11:24 AM
63
nothing
May 12, 2009 3:14 PM
64
Nothing.
May 12, 2009 5:30 PM
65
Media ethics and media in society are a complete waste of time and get in the May 13, 2009 8:17 AM way of the NCTJ qualifications
66
All kinds of non-essential theory, as well as overlapping theory. Being taught May 13, 2009 2:38 PM the same thing in FIVE DIFFERENT MODULES isn't entirely necessary. Interesting assessments, rather than critical evaluations, would also be handy.
67
Media ethics
May 13, 2009 4:24 PM
68
Institutions of Government
May 14, 2009 5:20 PM
69
nothing. i think everything we do is necessary
May 14, 2009 5:27 PM
70
Nothing
May 14, 2009 5:31 PM
71
shorthand!(dare i say it!)
May 14, 2009 5:42 PM
72
Academic modules which branch closer to other departments (e.g modules that consist of more Philosophiical arguments than Journalism/ media arguments).
May 14, 2009 5:43 PM
73
Many academic modules which are quite repetitive.
May 14, 2009 5:50 PM
74
Public administration being a core module.
May 14, 2009 5:54 PM
75
Shorthand! Although seriously I do think we need it.
May 14, 2009 5:55 PM
76
Having to make a film. PA as an obligatory subject.
May 14, 2009 6:03 PM
77
A bit less design. It's pretty unlikely any of will get design jobs straight away as May 14, 2009 6:12 PM publications all want experienced designers or graphic designers.
78
the over emphasis on NCTJ public administration exams
May 14, 2009 6:15 PM
79
I think there is too much focus on designing page lay-out which I didn't particularly enjoy.
May 14, 2009 6:39 PM
80
-
May 14, 2009 6:47 PM
81
Public admin in 1st year. Although it's understandable to support the NCTJ qualification.
May 14, 2009 6:53 PM
82
Less academic modules in the first year.
May 14, 2009 7:01 PM
83
I imagine a few people will say shorthand in this space but I strongly believe it May 14, 2009 7:03 PM is still a fantastic skill to have in the digital age, especially for aspiring newspaper reporters. For me, I don't enjoy the more academic modules on the course and don't see how they will be relevant to my future career, e.g. Free Speech and Censorship (philosophical stuff), Tabloid Journalism (historical stuff), and Language and Journalism (basically an extended grammar lesson). If anything were to be dropped on the course, I'd say it should be those things.
84
Patch work in third year
May 14, 2009 7:08 PM
85
Shorthand.
May 14, 2009 7:50 PM
86
There is not anything I would drop. You need the traditional and multimedia skills.
May 14, 2009 8:09 PM
87
public admin
May 14, 2009 8:20 PM
88
Personally I never enjoyed the local news stories we had to collect.
May 14, 2009 8:43 PM
3 of 4
Response Text 89
Nothing, everything has been very useful...with the possible exception of local May 14, 2009 8:59 PM government, but I wouldn't want to drop it. Even though I hate it.
90
Nothing, I am on a good course. I would like more added.
May 14, 2009 9:19 PM
91
Everything we've done has been useful
May 14, 2009 10:02 PM
92
-
May 14, 2009 10:05 PM
93
Nothing - the work experience critical appraisal.
May 14, 2009 10:56 PM
94
I found everything useful
May 14, 2009 11:19 PM
95
At times, my Journalism course is far too vocational for my liking. A greater focus on the philosophy and workings of journalism would be interesting.
May 14, 2009 11:42 PM
96
Our investigative journalism module. It doesn't work in its current format (not May 15, 2009 9:08 AM for want of trying by the moduloe leader). Also some of the 'filler' modules like Understandg the Media and Current Affairs in Broadcasting in first year could be replaced by the afore mentioned inspiring modules on international or war journalism.
97
The huge amount of news stories we have to write. But that's only because I enjoy writing features a lot more!
May 15, 2009 9:46 AM
98
Shorthand, but i suppose it is important. Just extremely boring.
May 15, 2009 11:48 AM
99
See above.
May 15, 2009 4:43 PM
100
Nothing.
May 16, 2009 1:20 PM
101
Current debates in broadcasting - too boring and not needed. And going to council and planning meetings definately put me off entering journalism.
May 16, 2009 2:23 PM
102
academic subjects such as language of the media
May 16, 2009 3:30 PM
103
Am really interested in the Cultural Studies side but think that possibly it could May 16, 2009 4:34 PM be a 10 credit module with the other credits passed back to News Journalism (or your own area).
104
The option modules, and instead introduce a module that concentrated on the May 17, 2009 5:57 PM converged journalistic envrionment.
105
There's too much on gathering stories and writing stories and not enough on ways of telling them (eg, through audio/video/pictures)
106
My school has one too many generic "editing" and only one that emphasizes May 19, 2009 12:12 AM grammar and copy editing (sub-editing). Of the three I took, two were useless.
107
There should be fewer lectures and more hands-on sessions. I might even say May 19, 2009 10:31 AM the approach of this course is a little too intellectual. See above.
108
Most of it. Although Media Law has obviously been useful as it's been the only May 19, 2009 3:07 PM thing stopping me libelling everyone involved.
109
nothing really
Jun 3, 2009 6:18 PM
110
academic courses
Jun 12, 2009 9:04 PM
111
give the students more chances to go out to do some interview and speak to people.
Jun 16, 2009 2:10 AM
112
-
Jun 20, 2009 11:10 AM
113
I will admit that NCTJ Law, and Public Admin, are necessary. Beyond that, none of the modules I've done I would deem to be unecessary. It's a little more about changing the modules as they, and what they teach, than getting rid of them.
Jun 20, 2009 1:20 PM
I know this is a confidential survery, but I'm perfectly happy to be contacted about it, if there is some reason that I can't think of now as to why you would want to. So: ********** (this doesn't give away my name so remains confidential, in case it could, in theory, invalidate the survey!)
4 of 4
May 18, 2009 10:25 AM
113
skipped question
31
Response Text 1
I'd like to see a greater flexibility and availability of choice. That means cutting May 11, 2009 7:00 AM back on the core modules and allowing extra credit choice elsewhere - so I can go and take a crash course in HTML/CSS if I want to.
2
RTVF1, or sound and image aesthetics, which has no journalism tie-in. All it is May 11, 2009 7:08 AM is a repository for TV/film majors to play with cameras before actually learning how to do anything. Recast the class for journalists.
3
Introductory courses that try too hard to ease students into our curriculum. May 11, 2009 7:23 AM Maybe I'm being too much of a hardass, but I just don't think we have time for hand-holding any more.
4
nothing.
May 11, 2009 12:12 PM
5
Nothing, but it is run as an english program which is no longer enough in the changing field
May 11, 2009 12:51 PM
6
There's a mass media survey I've avoided taking. I eye with suspicion any class that depends entirely on reading and listening to lectures.
May 11, 2009 2:18 PM
7
Media culture studies are not so important for journalism
May 11, 2009 2:48 PM
8
Nothing I think the course covers all aspects of journalism
May 11, 2009 2:51 PM
9
mac 101, 201, 301 often dont relate to the journalism and more often than not just common sense.
May 11, 2009 2:52 PM
10
News and Online writing - I'm taking a magazine route, not a new route!
May 11, 2009 3:05 PM
11
ethics, it can easily be blended into the critical thinking module
May 11, 2009 3:12 PM
12
Any multimedia session which does not give students a specific task
May 11, 2009 3:12 PM
13
The "philosophy" modules
May 11, 2009 3:12 PM
14
Ethics
May 11, 2009 3:15 PM
15
Nothing. We can only learn more skills.
May 11, 2009 3:17 PM
16
HTML
May 11, 2009 3:17 PM
17
Mass Communication Research.
May 11, 2009 3:19 PM
18
Shorthand. Waste of time.
May 11, 2009 3:20 PM
19
perhaps a little less journalism theory/academic courses, however those elements shouldn't be dropped altogether.
May 11, 2009 3:28 PM
20
Nothing I guess, I just want more variety.
May 11, 2009 3:45 PM
21
Less history about the web, less theory and more practice.
May 11, 2009 3:45 PM
22
Nothing.
May 11, 2009 5:02 PM
23
I have to admit even the tedious bits (ie. government!) are useful and necessary - so, sadly, nothing!
May 11, 2009 5:28 PM
24
shorthand and Public Administration
May 11, 2009 6:03 PM
25
Maths/statistics quizes
May 11, 2009 6:15 PM
1 of 4
Response Text 26
History. I can understand how important it is to have a working knowledge of recent historical events, but two essays and an exam each year on Hitler's rise to power probably holds very little relevance to our course.
May 11, 2009 6:15 PM
27
Feature and Magazine Writing
May 11, 2009 6:17 PM
28
Everything seems to be worthwhile.
May 11, 2009 6:17 PM
29
Nothing. I want as much as they'll teach me.
May 11, 2009 6:17 PM
30
Essay writing
May 11, 2009 6:31 PM
31
n/a
May 11, 2009 6:32 PM
32
Modules studying the future of journalism.
May 11, 2009 6:39 PM
33
Too much emphasis on video, but without proper equipment.
May 11, 2009 6:43 PM
34
Academic subjects! Over the years I feel like far too much emphasis has been May 11, 2009 7:10 PM placed on analysing the future of journalism. Obviously it should be discussed in one semester - but not three years.
35
Nothing really.
May 11, 2009 8:39 PM
36
Compulsory shorthand tests. I think it should be there for people who want to learn it and who still think that
May 11, 2009 8:53 PM
37
I think the Public Admin part of the NCTJ curriculum is a waste of time for many journalists. Many will not go into political reporting. It is something that should be picked up, rather than taught at this level.
May 11, 2009 8:59 PM
38
multimedia for journalists
May 11, 2009 9:23 PM
39
The option for a print-only sequence.
May 11, 2009 9:35 PM
40
politics
May 11, 2009 10:07 PM
41
Some of our three courses of photography should transition into video practice. Also, political reporting should not be required.
May 11, 2009 10:51 PM
42
I think all of the modules I completed were useful.
May 11, 2009 11:52 PM
43
Unimportant tasks given out during lesson
May 12, 2009 8:16 AM
44
Unimportant tasks given out during lesson
May 12, 2009 8:16 AM
45
Nothing
May 12, 2009 8:18 AM
46
Essay and theory style writing. Should concentrate on news or magazine writing.
May 12, 2009 8:18 AM
47
Media studies.
May 12, 2009 8:18 AM
48
Media studies.
May 12, 2009 8:18 AM
49
Media Studies Language of the media
May 12, 2009 8:19 AM
50
Media Studies - pointless and time consuming
May 12, 2009 8:20 AM
51
Academic research
May 12, 2009 8:20 AM
52
I don't think anything should be dropped. Maybe a few things are more important than others
May 12, 2009 8:21 AM
53
difficult to say as i dont think amything should be dropped but certainly the web module 'multimedia for journalists' needs some fine tuning.
May 12, 2009 9:37 AM
54
Nothing
May 12, 2009 10:48 AM
55
Less boring stories that nobody would ever want to read.
May 12, 2009 10:52 AM
56
Not as much focus on news reporting writing.
May 12, 2009 10:52 AM
57
Media/Cultural Studies modules. I do not think these type of modules benefit me.
May 12, 2009 10:52 AM
58
Modules that do not seem to have much relevance, particularly after the first year such as media studies and media contexts.
May 12, 2009 10:53 AM
59
Courses that repeat things that are already learnt in the first year and nothing new is learnt in the second year.
May 12, 2009 10:53 AM
2 of 4
Response Text 60
Classes which do not have any relevance to the degree and involve too many May 12, 2009 10:57 AM essays and not enough practical work. News and Online writing because I have no interest in news writing and I think this should have been made an option. I am sure many other students who are on the magazine option would agree.
61
Although it is a very important module, Media Law feels somewhat pointless for those wishing to do magazine journalism, as court stories seem less likely to appear in magazines as opposed to newspapers, so although I don't feel it needs to be dropped from the curriculum, I feel that it's position in Magazine Journalism should be re-assessed.
May 12, 2009 10:58 AM
62
Media Studies modules that have an extremely tenous link to practical journalism, and over theorise the concept behind news outlets. Just gets frustrating.
May 12, 2009 11:24 AM
63
nothing
May 12, 2009 3:14 PM
64
Nothing.
May 12, 2009 5:30 PM
65
Media ethics and media in society are a complete waste of time and get in the May 13, 2009 8:17 AM way of the NCTJ qualifications
66
All kinds of non-essential theory, as well as overlapping theory. Being taught May 13, 2009 2:38 PM the same thing in FIVE DIFFERENT MODULES isn't entirely necessary. Interesting assessments, rather than critical evaluations, would also be handy.
67
Media ethics
May 13, 2009 4:24 PM
68
Institutions of Government
May 14, 2009 5:20 PM
69
nothing. i think everything we do is necessary
May 14, 2009 5:27 PM
70
Nothing
May 14, 2009 5:31 PM
71
shorthand!(dare i say it!)
May 14, 2009 5:42 PM
72
Academic modules which branch closer to other departments (e.g modules that consist of more Philosophiical arguments than Journalism/ media arguments).
May 14, 2009 5:43 PM
73
Many academic modules which are quite repetitive.
May 14, 2009 5:50 PM
74
Public administration being a core module.
May 14, 2009 5:54 PM
75
Shorthand! Although seriously I do think we need it.
May 14, 2009 5:55 PM
76
Having to make a film. PA as an obligatory subject.
May 14, 2009 6:03 PM
77
A bit less design. It's pretty unlikely any of will get design jobs straight away as May 14, 2009 6:12 PM publications all want experienced designers or graphic designers.
78
the over emphasis on NCTJ public administration exams
May 14, 2009 6:15 PM
79
I think there is too much focus on designing page lay-out which I didn't particularly enjoy.
May 14, 2009 6:39 PM
80
-
May 14, 2009 6:47 PM
81
Public admin in 1st year. Although it's understandable to support the NCTJ qualification.
May 14, 2009 6:53 PM
82
Less academic modules in the first year.
May 14, 2009 7:01 PM
83
I imagine a few people will say shorthand in this space but I strongly believe it May 14, 2009 7:03 PM is still a fantastic skill to have in the digital age, especially for aspiring newspaper reporters. For me, I don't enjoy the more academic modules on the course and don't see how they will be relevant to my future career, e.g. Free Speech and Censorship (philosophical stuff), Tabloid Journalism (historical stuff), and Language and Journalism (basically an extended grammar lesson). If anything were to be dropped on the course, I'd say it should be those things.
84
Patch work in third year
May 14, 2009 7:08 PM
85
Shorthand.
May 14, 2009 7:50 PM
86
There is not anything I would drop. You need the traditional and multimedia skills.
May 14, 2009 8:09 PM
87
public admin
May 14, 2009 8:20 PM
88
Personally I never enjoyed the local news stories we had to collect.
May 14, 2009 8:43 PM
3 of 4
Response Text 89
Nothing, everything has been very useful...with the possible exception of local May 14, 2009 8:59 PM government, but I wouldn't want to drop it. Even though I hate it.
90
Nothing, I am on a good course. I would like more added.
May 14, 2009 9:19 PM
91
Everything we've done has been useful
May 14, 2009 10:02 PM
92
-
May 14, 2009 10:05 PM
93
Nothing - the work experience critical appraisal.
May 14, 2009 10:56 PM
94
I found everything useful
May 14, 2009 11:19 PM
95
At times, my Journalism course is far too vocational for my liking. A greater focus on the philosophy and workings of journalism would be interesting.
May 14, 2009 11:42 PM
96
Our investigative journalism module. It doesn't work in its current format (not May 15, 2009 9:08 AM for want of trying by the moduloe leader). Also some of the 'filler' modules like Understandg the Media and Current Affairs in Broadcasting in first year could be replaced by the afore mentioned inspiring modules on international or war journalism.
97
The huge amount of news stories we have to write. But that's only because I enjoy writing features a lot more!
May 15, 2009 9:46 AM
98
Shorthand, but i suppose it is important. Just extremely boring.
May 15, 2009 11:48 AM
99
See above.
May 15, 2009 4:43 PM
100
Nothing.
May 16, 2009 1:20 PM
101
Current debates in broadcasting - too boring and not needed. And going to council and planning meetings definately put me off entering journalism.
May 16, 2009 2:23 PM
102
academic subjects such as language of the media
May 16, 2009 3:30 PM
103
Am really interested in the Cultural Studies side but think that possibly it could May 16, 2009 4:34 PM be a 10 credit module with the other credits passed back to News Journalism (or your own area).
104
The option modules, and instead introduce a module that concentrated on the May 17, 2009 5:57 PM converged journalistic envrionment.
105
There's too much on gathering stories and writing stories and not enough on ways of telling them (eg, through audio/video/pictures)
106
My school has one too many generic "editing" and only one that emphasizes May 19, 2009 12:12 AM grammar and copy editing (sub-editing). Of the three I took, two were useless.
107
There should be fewer lectures and more hands-on sessions. I might even say May 19, 2009 10:31 AM the approach of this course is a little too intellectual. See above.
108
Most of it. Although Media Law has obviously been useful as it's been the only May 19, 2009 3:07 PM thing stopping me libelling everyone involved.
109
nothing really
Jun 3, 2009 6:18 PM
110
academic courses
Jun 12, 2009 9:04 PM
111
give the students more chances to go out to do some interview and speak to people.
Jun 16, 2009 2:10 AM
112
-
Jun 20, 2009 11:10 AM
113
I will admit that NCTJ Law, and Public Admin, are necessary. Beyond that, none of the modules I've done I would deem to be unecessary. It's a little more about changing the modules as they, and what they teach, than getting rid of them.
Jun 20, 2009 1:20 PM
I know this is a confidential survery, but I'm perfectly happy to be contacted about it, if there is some reason that I can't think of now as to why you would want to. So: ********** (this doesn't give away my name so remains confidential, in case it could, in theory, invalidate the survey!)
4 of 4
May 18, 2009 10:25 AM
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