Healey, Joshua Ply

September 9, 2008

Uh, speaking is Sergeant Denny Butler with the Louisville Metro Police Department Homicide Unit. Uh, the time is 7:51 p.m., the date is September 9th, 2008. This is in reference to Case 08197.

Butler

And, I am with, would you state your full name for me?

Healey

Joshua Christian Healey.

Butler

And, your date of birth?

Healey Butler

And, your address?

Healey

x

Butler

And, phone number?

Healey Butler

And, present in your house is also your father and your mother. And, what’s your full name, sir?

Healey, Steven

Steven Wayne Healey.

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Butler

And, this statement is being is being tape recorded, does that meet with both of your approval?

Healey

Yeah, sir.

Healey, Steven

Yeah, sir.

Butler

I’m taking this statement in reference to the events of August 20th, 2008, that occurred during the PRP football practice. Please describe the events of August 20, 2008, from the beginning to the end of practice as you remember them?

Healey

Okay. Uh, yeah we went in the locker room, we got dressed you know. Uh, everything’s fine you know, we went to uh, teams. Like we start off defense, offense run. After that we got a water break, and then we go to uh. We go to individuals where DV’s, and you know the linebackers and all that go. And, I went there, and after that uh, Coach Heather gave us a water break, and we went back to uh, just defense again? And, then we went to 7 on 7. After 7 on 7 we got a water break, and then after that we ran gassers. ‘Cause, everybody was walking.

Butler

Okay.

Healey

So, everybody like the D line was slacking, that’s what he said walked through..

Butler

Okay. Uh, now I’m gonna ask you some specific about it.

Healey

Okay.

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Butler

Uh, how are water breaks give uh, to the team or is it team or individual?

Healey

Uh, individual mostly but you know, we uh, we uh, the coaches they have different times of what. You know, like what drills we do and uh, individuals? But uh, we usually get our water breaks around the same time. Like 30 seconds you know, minimum away, water break. Just so the water wouldn’t be crowded.

Butler

Okay. Uh, on August 20, 2008, how many water breaks did you think you took during the practice?

Healey

Uh, say around 3.

Butler

Okay.

Healey

4, yeah.

Butler

After the last water break.

Healey

Um-hum.

Butler

What did practice consist of?

Healey

Running, we ran uh, because?

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Well, you answered the next one. Uh, how many gassers do you think your group ran?

Healey

Ooh…, uh, I counted 30, but uh, it may have been more. But, that’s what I remember keeping track of.

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Butler

Okay. N…, they split ‘em light, heavy correct?

Healey

Yes.

Butler

What group were you in?

Healey

I was in the small people.

Butler

Okay.

Healey

The little people.

Butler

How many gassers do you think you run before you took off your gear?

Healey

Uh, 15 maybe.

Butler

Okay. And, then after taking off the gear, how many more do you think you ran?

Healey

15.

Butler

Okay. Uh, how long do you think total that you all were running gassers?

Healey

Like time?

Butler

Um-hum.

Healey

Awe, 30 minutes.

Butler

Okay.

Healey

35 give or take.

Butler

Did you or any of your teammates ask for water breaks, or try to get water during the running of the ga…

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Healey

No, we never asked for water during water breaks. Or, he’ll make us run more, so we know, you know, don’t ask for one.

Butler

Okay. Uh, and who do you mean when you say he wouldn’t let you get?

Healey

Uh, Stinson, Stinson or any of the other coaches they’ll be like. What do you need water for, and you know, we’re just running you know. It’s all mental toughness, that’s what gassers are. That’s all it is, mental toughness. You just gotta get through it.

Butler

Uh, did you or any of your teammates become ill during the running of the gassers?

Healey

You mean besides Max and Calloway, or just anybody?

Butler

Uh, which ones do you know of, and, and.

Healey

Uh, Max..

Butler

At what point did they occur?

Healey

Uh, Ma…, Max and Calloway were really the only ones that were you know, showing that you know. They were actually dying of the gassers uh. But, nobody else, I mean everybody was tired out of breath. But, they wasn’t you know, like serious condition like real bad or anything.

Butler

Right. Who, who got sick first, Calloway or Max?

Healey

Uh, Calloway, Calloway did first, ‘cause he

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was wheezing. He wa…, I mean he ran all of his gassers hard. Like all of ‘em, and you know, he. Coach Stinson I guess wasn’t paying attention to him or something. But, then Coach Stinson noticed him like wheezing and breathing real hard. And, he was having trouble breathing. And, Stinson pulled him out. Butler

Okay.

Healey

Whenever he figured it out, ‘cause he was breathing bad.

Butler

Okay. Uhm, during any of the practices this year, have you personally seen or heard of any teammates being injured or quitting the team?

Healey

A freshman quit you know, they do all you know. Because, you know it’s high school, you don’t know if they’re up to the challenge or whatnot. But, uh, during the gassers David Engler quit, and uh, Chris Bryant quit. But, uh, Coach Stinson let them back on the team, so.

Butler

Uh, has anyone influenced you in anyway to withhold information? Or, change any of the fact that actually occurred that day?

Healey

No, no.

Butler

Okay.

Healey

We’ve been uh; we’ve been told you know tell the truth. Stinson don’t want nothing, nobody defending him anything so. You know, it’s, I’m gonna tell the truth. I’m not you know.

Butler

Okay.

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Healey

I’m not here to make Stinson look bad or.

Butler

That’s my next question.

Healey

Or, any good or anything.

Butler

Is, is the statement you gave me truthful?

Healey

Yes, sir.

Butler

Okay.

Healey

Yes, sir.

Butler

Is there anything else you wanna add, or anything that I didn’t ask you that I’m forgetting?

Healey

Uh, the gassers, they were more punishment than you know a workout. It was our fault that we had to do that. It wasn’t, you know, because Stinson just wanted to. It was our fault that we had to run. That’s about it.

Butler

Okay. Mr. Healey you got anything?

Healey, Steven

No.

Butler

This concludes the taped statement, and the time is 7:58 p.m.

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