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September 19, 2008
Today's date is September 19th, 2008. Time now is 1114 hours. My name is Detective Terry Jones, my code number's #6354. I m' with the Louisville Metro Police Department. This interview pertains to File #08-197. It is a death investigation involve...involving victim Max Gilpin. This interview is being conducted at Jefferson County Teachers' Association. We are at the Waterson Towers off of uh, Newburg Road. And uh, present during this interview of Mr. Donnelly is uh, Mr. Mark Miller, and Sgt. Denny Butler.
Jones
At this time, Mr. Donnelly, would you identify yourself?
Donnelly
My name is Adam Donnelly.
Jones
And spell your last name, please.
Donnelly
D-O-N-N-E-L-L-Y.
Jones
And your date of birth?
Donnelly Jones
And address?
Donnelly
8807 Mountain Brook Drive.
Jones
And phone number?
Donnelly
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Jones
Are you aware this interview is being taped?
Donnelly
Yes.
Jones
Uh, does it meet with your approval?
Donnelly
Yes.
Jones
Okay. And also present during this interview is Mr. Miller. Can you identify yourself, that you're here?
Miller
Mark Miller. I am present.
Jones
Okay. And Sgt. Denny Butler?
Butler
Uh, my code number's #6084.
Jones
Okay. Uh, Mr. Donnelly, if you would uh, this is in relationship to the August 20th practice uh, while...the at the practice field at PRP High School, 5601 Greenwood Road...and if you would uh, what is your title there? Uh...
Donnelly
I am, I am the offensive line coach responsible for centers and guards.
Jones
Okay. And, if you would, uh, you know, as it relates to August 20th, just tell me what consisted of practice that day.
Donnelly
We started practice a little bit after four. Uh, we start practice with uh, our warm-ups and stretches. Uh, from there we went to our, our usual team take-off period...(writes).
Jones
Okay. Go ahead and continue.
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Donnelly
From there uh, we went in to uh, since I coach the offensive line...uh, we uh, hit the sled. Uh, and did our sled period. Uh, after the sled period, we had our, we had a water break. Uh, from the water break, we went in to uh, a timing period, what we call our buck period. (writes). Uh, during the buck, after the buck period, we had the belly period. And during those periods, uh, there was, the kids were allowed to get water. It wasn't a group thing, but we sent like the first unit off and then the second unit off... Uh, after that, we had uh, we had a major water break. Uh, and then we started the conditioning period.
Jones
Okay. Uh, what time was your first water break you (inaudible)?
Donnelly
Like I, like I said, I'm, I'm not specifically sure exactly when. I believe it was somewhere between 4:30 and 4:45.
Jones
And you are the offensive line coach, how many players uhm, that you are in charge of?
Donnelly
Well, there's, there's two offensive line coaches, myself and coach Cook. Uh, between us we have approximately 15 offensive linemen, uh, give or take a few, depending on what day it is.
Jones
Okay. And, and you said a water break was given after you had ran the sled drills and punch drills?
Donnelly
Yes.
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Jones
And you also stated that you duc...you conducted buck drills?
Donnelly
Yes. The buck and belly drills.
Jones
Are these uh, drills conducted in full gear?
Donnelly
Yes.
Jones
Okay. And at what point uh, did you take that second water break?
Donnelly
Okay. There was a water break given during the buck and belly period where the kids were allowed to run over and get water and come back. In other words we finished one group and once they finished they could run over and get water, and then a second group could run over and get water.
Jones
Now how, how many minutes are they allowed to get water?
Donnelly
There is no time put on it, they just know they're supposed to drink...they just know they're supposed to go over and get it and get back.
Jones
Okay. And do they walk over?
Donnelly
They're supposed to jog over...run over and run back.
Jones
Okay. Uh, but long as they water themselves down to their satisfaction, they come back to the field. Correct?
Donnelly
Yes, sir.
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Jones
Okay. And uh, Max, he was part of that group that went over and watered?
Donnelly
Yes.
Jones
Okay. And the watering area is where in relationship to the soc...to the practice field?
Donnelly
The water area is about, is behind the soccer field...
Jones
...Okay...
Donnelly
...uh, over by, over by the fence.
Jones
Okay. Was anything else going on at the day of this practice? Any other events?
Donnelly
I believe a soccer game started at 5:30.
Jones
Uh, were there several spectators there, parents, watching that game?
Donnelly
There are, there were some, yes.
Jones
okay. What about the practice itself? Is uh, PRP's practice open, meaning it's open to the parents and of the players that can watch?
Donnelly
I guess it is, 'cause we have parents that are there.
Jones
And there were parents that particular day there.
Donnelly
Yes.
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Jones
Okay. Uh, okay. Leading up to the uh, after the second water break, you started belly drills?
Donnelly
Yes.
Jones
And describe belly drills to me.
Donnelly
Belly drills is a timing period just like the buck period.
Jones
Okay.
Donnelly
Uh, the only difference is we had our defensive linemen had come over during that period.
Jones
Okay. So with the defensive linemen joining how many people were there at this particular group at this time?
Donnelly
With, with both offense and defense...
Jones
...Yes, sir...
Donnelly
...I'd say over 30 kids.
Jones
Okay. And they're ac...actually in, in teams? Uh, is it still considered team 1, team 2, team 3?
Donnelly
Yes. And they have a team 1, a team 2...
Jones
And team 1 is considered the starters?
Donnelly
Yes.
Jones
Okay. Okay...and which team was, was...was Max in?
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Donnelly
He would have been either, he would have been team 2 or team 3.
Jones
And what is his particular...
Donnelly
He's an offensive tackle.
Jones
Offensive tackle. Okay. So...
Donnelly
Now. Can I back up here?
Jones
Yes, sir.
Donnelly
In the buck drill, we don't usually have a tackle that locks down...
Jones
...Yes, sir...
Donnelly
...so a lot of our tackles will rotate in, in the guard position and just get reps that way.
Jones
And those are participating in, in drills to, to a point. Correct?
Donnelly
Right.
Jones
Okay.
Donnelly
And so actually there's more rep time because they can only, we only run two guards at a time.
Jones
Okay.
Donnelly
During the belly period, the tackles are being used...
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Jones
...Okay...
Donnelly
...because it's, it's a, it's a, like I said, it's a timing period.
Jones
Okay.
Donnelly
So usually we have what we call an x-block, where the tackle blocks down and the guard pulls around (writes) and kicks out on the outside guy.
Jones
Okay.
Donnelly
So that's, that's how the belly drill is different than the buck drill.
Jones
Now leading up to your third water break, what time do you think that was?
Donnelly
The third water break was between...we dismissed them between 5:20 and 5:25, and they were at water till 5:30.
Jones
Uh, is this your group or the entire team?
Donnelly
It started off as our group but I noticed the entire team was over there at the pipe.
Jones
Did you personally see Max go get water?
Donnelly
Personally no, but there was no linemen near me.
Jones
I see.
Donnelly
So all our kids were over at the pipe.
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Jones
So they know where the break is, they go over there, they, they relieve themselves, get water and, and...and come back.
Donnelly
Yes.
Jones
They're expected to jog back on the field. Correct?
Donnelly
Yes.
Jones
And when they're expected to come back, what has taken place after, after the third water break?
Donnelly
Was we, we ended up conditioning.
Jones
Well, what...okay. So who, who uh, who would have made that decision to, to...
Donnelly
The head coach.
Jones
Coach...
Donnelly
Stinson.
Jones
Okay. And how does he tell everyone this is what we're gonna do? Does he blow a whistle? Does he...
Donnelly
...He blows a whistle, tells 'em to hurry up, and then he says uh, from my understanding, he tells 'em to line up, get, get on the line.
Jones
Okay. So at this point, the players are on line, uh, and what, what is, what is conditioning?
Donnelly
Conditioning is what we call a gasser.
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Jones
Okay.
Donnelly
A gasser is defined as running...as a two, approximately a 200-meter sprint, where they have to run the width of, they run the width of the football field, which is approximately 50, 50 meters...
Jones
Okay.
Donnelly
And they run, it's...it's up back, up back.
Jones
Okay. From side...from...
Donnelly
Sideline to sideline.
Jones
Okay. And the start, starting point is where?
Donnelly
The starting point is over there by the soccer field. On the soccer...on the soccer field side...
Jones
...From, from...closest to, closest to the soccer field. Okay. And uh, where is Coach Stinson at during, during the conditioning drills?
Donnelly
He is in the middle or closer to the soccer field side.
Jones
Okay. And where are you in relationship to the conditioning?
Donnelly
I am on the opposite side of the field.
Jones
Is that considered the touch side?
Donnelly
The touch side.
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Jones
And they have to go back to the start-up side.
Donnelly
Yes.
Jones
And then come back to your side again and go back...
Donnelly
...Yes...
Jones
...and that completes one gasser.
Donnelly
Yes.
Jones
Where is Coach Cook at in relationship to the gassers?
Donnelly
Uh, Coach Cook is on the same side with me for a time.
Jones
Okay. During the whole time period?
Donnelly
I believe he started lining the field.
Jones
And Coach Hiser?
Donnelly
Coach Hiser was only there for like the first one or two and then he had to leave on a family emergency.
Jones
Would he have been on the touch side or the...
Donnelly
...He would have been on the touch side.
Jones
And Coach uh, Deacon...
Donnelly
Coach Deacon was down on the, he was on the other side...
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Jones
It's Bobby Deacon. Right?
Donnelly
Bobby Deacon was on the other side...uh, standing down on the line where the freshmen are.
Jones
Okay. So when the guys...uh, the players are running gassers, how many can run at one time?
Donnelly
We run in two groups. We have 'em spread out across the football field. U, usually the, the line...usually the backs go, and then the linemen go.
Jones
Okay. so it appears that everyone is spread out at, at different intervals and the players are on the, on the starting side...they're, they're...they're uh, they run the width of the field, touch and run back and run, touch again, and go back. Correct?
Donnelly
Yes.
Jones
And is it timed?
Donnelly
No, today it was not. That day it was not.
Jones
Okay. And when they ran the gassers, did they have on full uniforms?
Donnelly
They started off, but as we progressed, they were allowed to take equipment off.
Jones
Okay. How many raps did they run before they had to remove equipment, or before they were allowed to remove equipment?
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Donnelly
I do not know exactly.
Jones
Okay. And during the running of the gassers, do you know how long the team ran gassers?
Donnelly
For total time?
Jones
Yes, sir.
Donnelly
I'd say we started about 5:31...uh, it was after 6 when we stopped.
Jones
Okay. And for the purpose of the tape, everyone is not running at the same time. Correct?
Donnelly
Yes.
Jones
And you described it as being...
Donnelly
...Two groups...
Jones
...two groups of how many players?
Donnelly
Well, you have all, you have linemen in one group, so that's at least 30...30 or 40 kids...
Jones
Yes, sir.
Donnelly
And then you have the other...you have the other group of backs and receivers, which is another 40 or 50 kids.
Jones
Okay. And while these players are running, obviously, you can observe 'em that they touch properly and then, which completes a gasser. Correct?
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Donnelly
Yes.
Jones
and if any of 'em are in distress, you can, are you in a position to notice that?
Donnelly
Yeah, well, I'm lookin' for it. So I, I mean I'm, I'm lookin' out and observing.
Jones
Okay.
Donnelly
And yeah, that's what I'm doin'. I'm usually, I'm usually trying to either encourage, and just makin' sure they touch the line.
Jones
Okay. Even though this is not timed gassers, they are encouraged to push it.
Donnelly
Yes.
Jones
Okay.
Donnelly
Do the best you can.
Jones
Okay. And at this time, did you see any players become ill?
Donnelly
Yes.
Jones
And who became ill?
Donnelly
I saw Antonio Calloway. Usually, the reason why I noticed is 'cause usually he goes all out. I noticed him stumblin'.
Jones
Is Antonio a white male player or a black male player?
Donnelly
He's a black male... He's a black male.
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Jones
Okay. And what position does he hold?
Donnelly
He's a free safety, defensive back.
Jones
Okay. And when Antonio got ill, at what point of the gassers did he become ill/ the beginning...middle, or end of the gassers?
Donnelly
I'd say it was toward the end.
Jones
Okay. And what was his illness?
Donnelly
I'm not for sure. I'm not a doctor. I noticed him stumbling. Uh..
Jones
Okay.
Donnelly
I then went out and said somethin' to Coach Stinson. Coach Stinson then told Antonio and David West to stop running.
Jones
Okay. David West is another player?
Donnelly
Yes.
Jones
Uh, and did you know if he, what was his illness?
Donnelly
I have no idea. He just...Dave West was runnin' with...I don't know why he told Dave West to stop. But Antonio was leaning on Dave West, so maybe...I don't know what...but he told both of 'em to stop the game.
Jones
And when the uh, team continued to run gassers, uh, did you see anybody else get ill?
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Donnelly
No.
Jones
Did you ever notice Max Gilpin get ill?
Donnelly
No.
Jones
Uh, when did you learn that he was ill?
Donnelly
Uh, I was standing over on the side at this point...next to or near the, on the end zone side. Uh, I noticed that uh, I saw two players...I saw Max uh, hanging over two players. Uh, I told, I, I told the players to let him walk on his own. They then informed me that he couldn't. I then ran out to Max, told 'im, told them to lay him down. Uh, I then noticed that...I tried to give Max water uh, some...one...somebody had given me a water bottle, I don't know who...uh, I tried to give water to Max, realized that he could not take it, and that he was unconscious. I did a look, listen, and feel, to check that he was breathing. Uh, I had...I had yelled for help at that point. Uh, I, I checked his skin, feel...feel his skin, it was clammy at the time.
Jones
Who did you yell for help for? Who did you yell to?
Donnelly
I just, I just said yelp. I just yelled help.
Jones
And who came to your assistance?
Donnelly
Steve Ellis, who is one of the parents, and Steve Deacon, who is one of our assistant football coaches.
Jones
Now prior to Max becoming ill, did you assist the, the...the black male player off the field?
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Donnelly
Yes.
Jones
Okay. What did you do to him?
Donnelly
I, I walked...I helped...me and David West assisted him and walked him down the sideline. Uh, while we...I, I told David to take him over to get water. I then started walkin' back to where my normal position is...
Jones
...Which is on the touch side...
Donnelly
...which is on the touch side...
Jones
...Okay...
Donnelly
I then said somethin' to Bobby Deacon, to keep an eye on Antonio.
Jones
Okay. And why, why is that?
Donnelly
I had a concern, the fact that, that Antonio wasn't...he wasn't himself. He was still havin' a hard time breathin'.
Jones
And his problem was just respiratory.
Donnelly
I be...yeah, he was hyperventilating.
Jones
Did Antonio ever become unconscious at any point?
Donnelly
No.
Jones
And he eventually...was he able to walk on his own power?
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Donnelly
Yes.
Jones
Okay. Uh, so while walkin' back to your position, as you indicated, you said you noticed somethin'...you noticed Max being carried by two players?
Donnelly
Yes.
Jones
You know what players who, who they were?
Donnelly
No, I do not.
Jones
Okay. And, and you said at this point, Max fell on the field or collapsed on the field?
Donnelly
He was...he was collapsed. I told the kids to let him down. When they did, he just kinda...
Jones
...Right.
Donnelly
He just kinda hit, fell to the, he just kinda went like a dishrag.
Jones
Okay. And his skin was clammy...
Donnelly
Yes.
Jones
And what was his...how was his breathing?
Donnelly
His breathing was shallow.
Jones
Did you see his eyes?
Donnelly
No. I mean they were, his eyes were closed.
Jones
Was he makin' any sound?
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Donnelly
He was breathing. That's the only thing I could hear.
Jones
...Was...low breathing...shallow breathing?
Donnelly
Shallow breathing.
Jones
Was uh, he ever, was water able to be induced in him?
Donnelly
I tried and could not. I just took the water bottle and dumped it on him.
Jones
Was anything else done to him?
Donnelly
Uh, well, like I said uh, Steve Ellis, Steve Deacon came...they came over there, they started checkin'...uh, Craig Webb brought the gaiter over there. Uh, myself and a group of parents uh, picked Max up, we put him on the gaiter.
Jones
Group...uh, parents...football players' parents?
Donnelly
They were, they were football parents.
Jones
Okay.
Donnelly
Uh, I believe Max Gilpin's dad was, was with us at that point.
Jones
Yes, sir.
Donnelly
Uh, I...Steve Ellis held him up...I put him in the chair...
Jones
...Okay...
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Donnelly
...Steve Ellis held him in the chair. Uh, the gaiter then drove off toward the water pipe.
Jones
What, well, where was head Coach Stinson at, at the time that Max went down?
Donnelly
that Max went down? I believe he, I believe he was walkin' toward the area that he told the team that he wanted to meet 'em at.
Jones
And where did he want 'em to meet him at?
Donnelly
He wanted to meet him at uh, off, of...off the field.
Jones
Which was near where?
Donnelly
Which was...it was on the other side of the, it was on the uh, if you walked on to the practice field, it would be off to the right of the tree.
Jones
Okay. So that's where the team was supposed to meet after the gassers?
Donnelly
Yeah.
Jones
And did the team eventually go to that area?
Donnelly
Yes.
Jones
Okay. and Max was being attended to?
Donnelly
Yes.
Jones
Okay.
Donnelly
Uh, as I said, at, at first by me and then by Steve...Steve Ellis, and Steve Deacon and
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Craig...and Craig Webb. Jones
Okay. Uh, Sgt. Butler...
Butler
Yes. Uh, I got a few questions for you, Coach. Uh, water break 1630 to 1645...that's pretty much the whole team. Correct?
Donnelly
Which
Butler
The, the first one at, at about 4:30...4:45...
Donnelly
Yes.
Butler
And then from there you all break down and you're working with the offensive line and defensive line. Correct? And that's kind of all...
Donnelly
...We were doing a match period after that point. A timing period.
Butler
Match. And during that timing period, you've got team 1, team 2, which consists of either Varsity, JV, freshmen. Right?
Donnelly
Yeah. Well, we had team 1, team 2, and we actually a, I think we pro'bly got a freshman unit going as well.
Butler
So from that point to when the last water break was given at about 1720...somethin' like that, which...or about 5:20 pm?
Donnelly
Yes.
Butler
You all are givin' 'em breaks is like is team 1 is not running, they're runnin' over gettin 'water.
one
are
you
talking
about?
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Donnelly
They were told to, yes.
Butler
And team 2, when, when they're out, they're goin' to get water.
Donnelly
Yes.
Butler
At some point during that, you're all rotating players in and out...
Donnelly
...Yes...
Butler
...like tackles for guards...
Donnelly
...Yes...
Butler
...and guards for tackles. Uh, at 17...or at 5:20 pm, when everybody breaks, prior to the conditioning started...
Donnelly
...Um-hmm...
Butler
...starting...is it possible that some players or some groups may not have gotten a water break?
Donnelly
Everybody was...I can only speak for my group. And our group, our group had a water break.
Butler
Christian Vincent?
Donnelly
Yes.
Butler
What position is he?
Donnelly
He's a, he's a defensive tackle.
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Butler
Okay. Would he have been in that group prior to the conditioning?
Donnelly
Defensive line would have been over there during belly period. Yes.
Butler
Okay. Deandré Cole?
Donnelly
Uhm, he's not an offensive lineman, so I can't speak.
Butler
Okay.
Donnelly
I don't...I'm not sure.
Butler
Uh, and then when the conditioning starts, Steve Deacon...Coach Steve Deacon...where would...you, you, we have gone through where all the coaches are...
Donnelly
Um-hmm...
Butler
Now where would Coach Steve Deacon be at that point?
Donnelly
I'm not too sure where Steve was at.
Butler
Okay.
Donnelly
I can't...he was not over on the line with us.
Butler
How about Coach Lightle?
Donnelly
He was on the line for a while, I believe. I saw him over there.
Butler
Okay.
And in a normal conditioning, what
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would "normal" uh, gassers be? I mean...how many? Donnelly
How many? Six to eight.
Butler
Okay. And, on this date, on August 20th, how many gassers do you think the team ran?
Donnelly
I really don't know.
Butler
Okay.
Donnelly
I can't...I, I don't wanna speculate.
Butler
Okay. And that's fair enough. Uh, at some point you see Antonio start laboring...
Donnelly
...Yes.
Butler
Do you bring that to Coach Stinson's attention or did he bring that to your attention?
Donnelly
I brought it to Coach Stinson's attention.
Butler
And then the decision was made to take Antonio Calloway and Dave West off...
Donnelly
...Yes...
Butler
...to get them some treatment.
Donnelly
Yes.
Butler
Did you leave the field with them?
Donnelly
Yes.
Butler
Okay. How long do you think you were over
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with Antonio, makin' sure that he's being treated and taken care of? (Writes). Donnelly
Umm, at least five minutes.
Butler
Okay. And then at that point, you walk back to your position.
Donnelly
Yes.
Butler
Are they, are we still running gassers?
Donnelly
Yes.
Butler
Okay. You get to your position, at what point do we say, gassers are done?
Donnelly
As soon as I got over there the one group finished, he told 'em to start headin' to the tree.
Butler
"He" would be...
Donnelly
Coach Stinson.
Butler
Coach Stinson. So...
Donnelly
...or head over, he pointed...so I then, the second group started and I just automatically started walkin' over there toward the sideline, heading that direction.
Butler
And that's when you noticed the players...
Donnelly
...Yes...
Butler
...assisting Max and you...
Donnelly
...Yes...
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Butler
...and, and you go to render aid to Max...
Donnelly
Yes.
Butler
...and yell for help.
Donnelly
Yes.
Butler
At what point does the gaiter show up?
Donnelly
It was...it had to be less than two minutes.
Butler
Okay.
Donnelly
It was very quick.
Butler
Do you think it was your call for assistance, when you said "help"? Did they hear or...
Donnelly
I don't know...
Butler
...Okay...
Donnelly
...I just know it was there.
Butler
Was Coach...did "Coach Stinson, was he aware that...
Donnelly
I do not know.
Butler
Okay. Uh, and then from that point, the rest of the team is at a team meeting...
Donnelly
...with Coach Stinson...
Butler
...at the shade tree...
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Donnelly
...Yes...
Butler
...are you with, at that meeting or are you with Max?...
Donnelly
I'm kinda in between.
Butler
Okay.
Donnelly
I was...I started walkin' toward the team and then I decided to go over there and check on...check on Antonio and Max and see what was goin' on there.
Butler
Okay. Uh, and then you stayed there until the EMT's arrived?
Donnelly
No. Uh, once I, once I realized they had called...they had already called the EMT's at that point...uh, I started walkin' out the gate to go...I was gonna walk up to the front to give directions to the ambulance, where it was...uh, on my way out uh, some parent...I don't know who she was...started askin' me a bunch of questions. I was kinda short with her. I didn't...I didn't know who she was...didn't know...you know...she said she had heard Max went down and uh, I said what...and I said well, I don't...I just told her that yes...she said had an ambulance been called, I said yes, uh, you know. I was kinda short with her, 'cause I wanted to get to, to where the ambulance was.
Butler
Okay. Uh, are you aware of any preexisting health conditions with Antonio?
Donnelly
I'm aware, I coached Antonio in track...I know he had a heart murmur but was cleared to
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participate in sports. Butler
Okay.
Donnelly
...so I was aware of that.
Butler
Was he on...did he have asthma?
Donnelly
...Not to my...
Butler
...or was he on a breathing treatment or any...
Donnelly
Not to my knowledge, no.
Butler
Okay.
Donnelly
Uh...
Butler
I think that's all I have.
Jones
I just have a few more and then we'll conclude. Uh, uh...but at any point did any players uh, was any players in your presence denied water?
Donnelly
Not to my knowledge, no.
Jones
And did any of your players under, while you was conducting your drills, ask for water?
Donnelly
No.
Jones
Okay. And did you see uh, Max Gilpin uh, uh...training, did you see him while he was doing his drills? Did he appear to be okay?
Donnelly
Uh, yes. I mean he doesn't...I didn't get on...I didn't have to correct him, I didn't get on him...
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Jones
...Okay...
Donnelly
...uh, he's one of those kids who just kinda blends in to the woodwork, when you see him, he has a smile on his face...
Jones
Yes, sir.
Donnelly
And he's a yes, sir or a no, sir kid.
Jones
So at no time he was in distress or anything like that?
Donnelly
I never noticed it.
Jones
During the, during the, during the, the stretching, during the uh, buck drills, during the uh, team drills...and during the gassers...
Donnelly
Yes.
Jones
...he n ever exhibited any...
Donnelly
....No...
Jones
...any unusual behavior.
Donnelly
I did not notice it.
Jones
Uh, now who's in charge of taking the uh, hygrometer? Who's in charge of that?
Donnelly
Coach Stinson.
Jones
And did he in fact take readings that day?
Donnelly
To my knowledge, yes, he did.
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Jones
Okay. And uh, the training uh, uh...that day, consisted of, of certain things you had to do at, at a particular time...being on schedule and...that's what I'm trying to ask. Was it, was the training on schedule or was it off schedule?
Donnelly
I thought we started off schedule a little bit.
Jones
Okay. And do you know the reasoning why the...do you know the reason why the conditioning started earlier?
Donnelly
I don't have a specific answer. No.
Jones
And that's entirely from the coach's decision?
Donnelly
Yes.
Jones
Head coach Stinson. Is that correct?
Donnelly
Yes.
Jones
Okay. I don't have anything. You?
Butler
I got one more follow-up for you. Uh, after Antonio gets sick...
Donnelly
...yes...
Butler
...and your attention is focused on Antonio...
Donnelly
...Right...
Butler
...did you see any other player get sick...
Donnelly
No.
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Butler
...or, or vomit?
Donnelly
No.
Butler
Okay. That's it.
Jones
Okay. Just follow-up. Did you see any...did you observe any players denied water by any particular coach?
Donnelly
No. To my knowledge, they all watered. And water's made available before practice.
Jones
Okay.
Donnelly
And whatever is available in the locker-room as well, before they go out there.
Jones
And, and on the field, while practicing, the only water available is the watering area at the, the soccer field.
Donnelly
...Yes. Yes...
Jones
There's no trainer, there's no water bottles available to players, nothin' like that?
Donnelly
Not to my knowledge, no. We...I think they work strictly with the pipe.
Jones^
Which is the watering device...
Donnelly
water hose. Yes.
Jones
Watering device. Okay. Okay...is there anything I didn't ask you, anything of important we, we didn't cover or anything you wanna follow up on?
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Donnelly
No.
Jones
Sgt. Butler?
Butler
No, nothin'.
Jones
Mr. Miller?
Miller
I have no questions.
Jones
Okay. At this time we will conclude. Mr. Donnelly, I thank you for your time. Uh, we will go off record. Time now is 1141 hours.
END OF STATEMENT File #08197cjones-ks
Today's date is September 19th, 2008. Time now is 1114 hours. My name is Detective Terry Jones, my code number's #6354. I m' with the Louisville Metro Police Department. This interview pertains to File #08-197. It is a death investigation involve...involving victim Max Gilpin. This interview is being conducted at Jefferson County Teachers' Association. We are at the Waterson Towers off of uh, Newburg Road. And uh, present during this interview of Mr. Donnelly is uh, Mr. Mark Miller, and Sgt. Denny Butler.
Jones
At this time, Mr. Donnelly, would you identify yourself?
Donnelly
My name is Adam Donnelly.
Jones
And spell your last name, please.
Donnelly
D-O-N-N-E-L-L-Y.
Jones
And your date of birth?
Donnelly Jones
And address?
Donnelly
8807 Mountain Brook Drive.
Jones
And phone number?
Donnelly
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Jones
Are you aware this interview is being taped?
Donnelly
Yes.
Jones
Uh, does it meet with your approval?
Donnelly
Yes.
Jones
Okay. And also present during this interview is Mr. Miller. Can you identify yourself, that you're here?
Miller
Mark Miller. I am present.
Jones
Okay. And Sgt. Denny Butler?
Butler
Uh, my code number's #6084.
Jones
Okay. Uh, Mr. Donnelly, if you would uh, this is in relationship to the August 20th practice uh, while...the at the practice field at PRP High School, 5601 Greenwood Road...and if you would uh, what is your title there? Uh...
Donnelly
I am, I am the offensive line coach responsible for centers and guards.
Jones
Okay. And, if you would, uh, you know, as it relates to August 20th, just tell me what consisted of practice that day.
Donnelly
We started practice a little bit after four. Uh, we start practice with uh, our warm-ups and stretches. Uh, from there we went to our, our usual team take-off period...(writes).
Jones
Okay. Go ahead and continue.
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Donnelly
From there uh, we went in to uh, since I coach the offensive line...uh, we uh, hit the sled. Uh, and did our sled period. Uh, after the sled period, we had our, we had a water break. Uh, from the water break, we went in to uh, a timing period, what we call our buck period. (writes). Uh, during the buck, after the buck period, we had the belly period. And during those periods, uh, there was, the kids were allowed to get water. It wasn't a group thing, but we sent like the first unit off and then the second unit off... Uh, after that, we had uh, we had a major water break. Uh, and then we started the conditioning period.
Jones
Okay. Uh, what time was your first water break you (inaudible)?
Donnelly
Like I, like I said, I'm, I'm not specifically sure exactly when. I believe it was somewhere between 4:30 and 4:45.
Jones
And you are the offensive line coach, how many players uhm, that you are in charge of?
Donnelly
Well, there's, there's two offensive line coaches, myself and coach Cook. Uh, between us we have approximately 15 offensive linemen, uh, give or take a few, depending on what day it is.
Jones
Okay. And, and you said a water break was given after you had ran the sled drills and punch drills?
Donnelly
Yes.
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Jones
And you also stated that you duc...you conducted buck drills?
Donnelly
Yes. The buck and belly drills.
Jones
Are these uh, drills conducted in full gear?
Donnelly
Yes.
Jones
Okay. And at what point uh, did you take that second water break?
Donnelly
Okay. There was a water break given during the buck and belly period where the kids were allowed to run over and get water and come back. In other words we finished one group and once they finished they could run over and get water, and then a second group could run over and get water.
Jones
Now how, how many minutes are they allowed to get water?
Donnelly
There is no time put on it, they just know they're supposed to drink...they just know they're supposed to go over and get it and get back.
Jones
Okay. And do they walk over?
Donnelly
They're supposed to jog over...run over and run back.
Jones
Okay. Uh, but long as they water themselves down to their satisfaction, they come back to the field. Correct?
Donnelly
Yes, sir.
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Jones
Okay. And uh, Max, he was part of that group that went over and watered?
Donnelly
Yes.
Jones
Okay. And the watering area is where in relationship to the soc...to the practice field?
Donnelly
The water area is about, is behind the soccer field...
Jones
...Okay...
Donnelly
...uh, over by, over by the fence.
Jones
Okay. Was anything else going on at the day of this practice? Any other events?
Donnelly
I believe a soccer game started at 5:30.
Jones
Uh, were there several spectators there, parents, watching that game?
Donnelly
There are, there were some, yes.
Jones
okay. What about the practice itself? Is uh, PRP's practice open, meaning it's open to the parents and of the players that can watch?
Donnelly
I guess it is, 'cause we have parents that are there.
Jones
And there were parents that particular day there.
Donnelly
Yes.
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Jones
Okay. Uh, okay. Leading up to the uh, after the second water break, you started belly drills?
Donnelly
Yes.
Jones
And describe belly drills to me.
Donnelly
Belly drills is a timing period just like the buck period.
Jones
Okay.
Donnelly
Uh, the only difference is we had our defensive linemen had come over during that period.
Jones
Okay. So with the defensive linemen joining how many people were there at this particular group at this time?
Donnelly
With, with both offense and defense...
Jones
...Yes, sir...
Donnelly
...I'd say over 30 kids.
Jones
Okay. And they're ac...actually in, in teams? Uh, is it still considered team 1, team 2, team 3?
Donnelly
Yes. And they have a team 1, a team 2...
Jones
And team 1 is considered the starters?
Donnelly
Yes.
Jones
Okay. Okay...and which team was, was...was Max in?
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Donnelly
He would have been either, he would have been team 2 or team 3.
Jones
And what is his particular...
Donnelly
He's an offensive tackle.
Jones
Offensive tackle. Okay. So...
Donnelly
Now. Can I back up here?
Jones
Yes, sir.
Donnelly
In the buck drill, we don't usually have a tackle that locks down...
Jones
...Yes, sir...
Donnelly
...so a lot of our tackles will rotate in, in the guard position and just get reps that way.
Jones
And those are participating in, in drills to, to a point. Correct?
Donnelly
Right.
Jones
Okay.
Donnelly
And so actually there's more rep time because they can only, we only run two guards at a time.
Jones
Okay.
Donnelly
During the belly period, the tackles are being used...
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Jones
...Okay...
Donnelly
...because it's, it's a, it's a, like I said, it's a timing period.
Jones
Okay.
Donnelly
So usually we have what we call an x-block, where the tackle blocks down and the guard pulls around (writes) and kicks out on the outside guy.
Jones
Okay.
Donnelly
So that's, that's how the belly drill is different than the buck drill.
Jones
Now leading up to your third water break, what time do you think that was?
Donnelly
The third water break was between...we dismissed them between 5:20 and 5:25, and they were at water till 5:30.
Jones
Uh, is this your group or the entire team?
Donnelly
It started off as our group but I noticed the entire team was over there at the pipe.
Jones
Did you personally see Max go get water?
Donnelly
Personally no, but there was no linemen near me.
Jones
I see.
Donnelly
So all our kids were over at the pipe.
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Jones
So they know where the break is, they go over there, they, they relieve themselves, get water and, and...and come back.
Donnelly
Yes.
Jones
They're expected to jog back on the field. Correct?
Donnelly
Yes.
Jones
And when they're expected to come back, what has taken place after, after the third water break?
Donnelly
Was we, we ended up conditioning.
Jones
Well, what...okay. So who, who uh, who would have made that decision to, to...
Donnelly
The head coach.
Jones
Coach...
Donnelly
Stinson.
Jones
Okay. And how does he tell everyone this is what we're gonna do? Does he blow a whistle? Does he...
Donnelly
...He blows a whistle, tells 'em to hurry up, and then he says uh, from my understanding, he tells 'em to line up, get, get on the line.
Jones
Okay. So at this point, the players are on line, uh, and what, what is, what is conditioning?
Donnelly
Conditioning is what we call a gasser.
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Jones
Okay.
Donnelly
A gasser is defined as running...as a two, approximately a 200-meter sprint, where they have to run the width of, they run the width of the football field, which is approximately 50, 50 meters...
Jones
Okay.
Donnelly
And they run, it's...it's up back, up back.
Jones
Okay. From side...from...
Donnelly
Sideline to sideline.
Jones
Okay. And the start, starting point is where?
Donnelly
The starting point is over there by the soccer field. On the soccer...on the soccer field side...
Jones
...From, from...closest to, closest to the soccer field. Okay. And uh, where is Coach Stinson at during, during the conditioning drills?
Donnelly
He is in the middle or closer to the soccer field side.
Jones
Okay. And where are you in relationship to the conditioning?
Donnelly
I am on the opposite side of the field.
Jones
Is that considered the touch side?
Donnelly
The touch side.
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Jones
And they have to go back to the start-up side.
Donnelly
Yes.
Jones
And then come back to your side again and go back...
Donnelly
...Yes...
Jones
...and that completes one gasser.
Donnelly
Yes.
Jones
Where is Coach Cook at in relationship to the gassers?
Donnelly
Uh, Coach Cook is on the same side with me for a time.
Jones
Okay. During the whole time period?
Donnelly
I believe he started lining the field.
Jones
And Coach Hiser?
Donnelly
Coach Hiser was only there for like the first one or two and then he had to leave on a family emergency.
Jones
Would he have been on the touch side or the...
Donnelly
...He would have been on the touch side.
Jones
And Coach uh, Deacon...
Donnelly
Coach Deacon was down on the, he was on the other side...
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Jones
It's Bobby Deacon. Right?
Donnelly
Bobby Deacon was on the other side...uh, standing down on the line where the freshmen are.
Jones
Okay. So when the guys...uh, the players are running gassers, how many can run at one time?
Donnelly
We run in two groups. We have 'em spread out across the football field. U, usually the, the line...usually the backs go, and then the linemen go.
Jones
Okay. so it appears that everyone is spread out at, at different intervals and the players are on the, on the starting side...they're, they're...they're uh, they run the width of the field, touch and run back and run, touch again, and go back. Correct?
Donnelly
Yes.
Jones
And is it timed?
Donnelly
No, today it was not. That day it was not.
Jones
Okay. And when they ran the gassers, did they have on full uniforms?
Donnelly
They started off, but as we progressed, they were allowed to take equipment off.
Jones
Okay. How many raps did they run before they had to remove equipment, or before they were allowed to remove equipment?
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Donnelly
I do not know exactly.
Jones
Okay. And during the running of the gassers, do you know how long the team ran gassers?
Donnelly
For total time?
Jones
Yes, sir.
Donnelly
I'd say we started about 5:31...uh, it was after 6 when we stopped.
Jones
Okay. And for the purpose of the tape, everyone is not running at the same time. Correct?
Donnelly
Yes.
Jones
And you described it as being...
Donnelly
...Two groups...
Jones
...two groups of how many players?
Donnelly
Well, you have all, you have linemen in one group, so that's at least 30...30 or 40 kids...
Jones
Yes, sir.
Donnelly
And then you have the other...you have the other group of backs and receivers, which is another 40 or 50 kids.
Jones
Okay. And while these players are running, obviously, you can observe 'em that they touch properly and then, which completes a gasser. Correct?
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Donnelly
Yes.
Jones
and if any of 'em are in distress, you can, are you in a position to notice that?
Donnelly
Yeah, well, I'm lookin' for it. So I, I mean I'm, I'm lookin' out and observing.
Jones
Okay.
Donnelly
And yeah, that's what I'm doin'. I'm usually, I'm usually trying to either encourage, and just makin' sure they touch the line.
Jones
Okay. Even though this is not timed gassers, they are encouraged to push it.
Donnelly
Yes.
Jones
Okay.
Donnelly
Do the best you can.
Jones
Okay. And at this time, did you see any players become ill?
Donnelly
Yes.
Jones
And who became ill?
Donnelly
I saw Antonio Calloway. Usually, the reason why I noticed is 'cause usually he goes all out. I noticed him stumblin'.
Jones
Is Antonio a white male player or a black male player?
Donnelly
He's a black male... He's a black male.
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Jones
Okay. And what position does he hold?
Donnelly
He's a free safety, defensive back.
Jones
Okay. And when Antonio got ill, at what point of the gassers did he become ill/ the beginning...middle, or end of the gassers?
Donnelly
I'd say it was toward the end.
Jones
Okay. And what was his illness?
Donnelly
I'm not for sure. I'm not a doctor. I noticed him stumbling. Uh..
Jones
Okay.
Donnelly
I then went out and said somethin' to Coach Stinson. Coach Stinson then told Antonio and David West to stop running.
Jones
Okay. David West is another player?
Donnelly
Yes.
Jones
Uh, and did you know if he, what was his illness?
Donnelly
I have no idea. He just...Dave West was runnin' with...I don't know why he told Dave West to stop. But Antonio was leaning on Dave West, so maybe...I don't know what...but he told both of 'em to stop the game.
Jones
And when the uh, team continued to run gassers, uh, did you see anybody else get ill?
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Donnelly
No.
Jones
Did you ever notice Max Gilpin get ill?
Donnelly
No.
Jones
Uh, when did you learn that he was ill?
Donnelly
Uh, I was standing over on the side at this point...next to or near the, on the end zone side. Uh, I noticed that uh, I saw two players...I saw Max uh, hanging over two players. Uh, I told, I, I told the players to let him walk on his own. They then informed me that he couldn't. I then ran out to Max, told 'im, told them to lay him down. Uh, I then noticed that...I tried to give Max water uh, some...one...somebody had given me a water bottle, I don't know who...uh, I tried to give water to Max, realized that he could not take it, and that he was unconscious. I did a look, listen, and feel, to check that he was breathing. Uh, I had...I had yelled for help at that point. Uh, I, I checked his skin, feel...feel his skin, it was clammy at the time.
Jones
Who did you yell for help for? Who did you yell to?
Donnelly
I just, I just said yelp. I just yelled help.
Jones
And who came to your assistance?
Donnelly
Steve Ellis, who is one of the parents, and Steve Deacon, who is one of our assistant football coaches.
Jones
Now prior to Max becoming ill, did you assist the, the...the black male player off the field?
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Donnelly
Yes.
Jones
Okay. What did you do to him?
Donnelly
I, I walked...I helped...me and David West assisted him and walked him down the sideline. Uh, while we...I, I told David to take him over to get water. I then started walkin' back to where my normal position is...
Jones
...Which is on the touch side...
Donnelly
...which is on the touch side...
Jones
...Okay...
Donnelly
I then said somethin' to Bobby Deacon, to keep an eye on Antonio.
Jones
Okay. And why, why is that?
Donnelly
I had a concern, the fact that, that Antonio wasn't...he wasn't himself. He was still havin' a hard time breathin'.
Jones
And his problem was just respiratory.
Donnelly
I be...yeah, he was hyperventilating.
Jones
Did Antonio ever become unconscious at any point?
Donnelly
No.
Jones
And he eventually...was he able to walk on his own power?
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Donnelly
Yes.
Jones
Okay. Uh, so while walkin' back to your position, as you indicated, you said you noticed somethin'...you noticed Max being carried by two players?
Donnelly
Yes.
Jones
You know what players who, who they were?
Donnelly
No, I do not.
Jones
Okay. And, and you said at this point, Max fell on the field or collapsed on the field?
Donnelly
He was...he was collapsed. I told the kids to let him down. When they did, he just kinda...
Jones
...Right.
Donnelly
He just kinda hit, fell to the, he just kinda went like a dishrag.
Jones
Okay. And his skin was clammy...
Donnelly
Yes.
Jones
And what was his...how was his breathing?
Donnelly
His breathing was shallow.
Jones
Did you see his eyes?
Donnelly
No. I mean they were, his eyes were closed.
Jones
Was he makin' any sound?
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Donnelly
He was breathing. That's the only thing I could hear.
Jones
...Was...low breathing...shallow breathing?
Donnelly
Shallow breathing.
Jones
Was uh, he ever, was water able to be induced in him?
Donnelly
I tried and could not. I just took the water bottle and dumped it on him.
Jones
Was anything else done to him?
Donnelly
Uh, well, like I said uh, Steve Ellis, Steve Deacon came...they came over there, they started checkin'...uh, Craig Webb brought the gaiter over there. Uh, myself and a group of parents uh, picked Max up, we put him on the gaiter.
Jones
Group...uh, parents...football players' parents?
Donnelly
They were, they were football parents.
Jones
Okay.
Donnelly
Uh, I believe Max Gilpin's dad was, was with us at that point.
Jones
Yes, sir.
Donnelly
Uh, I...Steve Ellis held him up...I put him in the chair...
Jones
...Okay...
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Donnelly
...Steve Ellis held him in the chair. Uh, the gaiter then drove off toward the water pipe.
Jones
What, well, where was head Coach Stinson at, at the time that Max went down?
Donnelly
that Max went down? I believe he, I believe he was walkin' toward the area that he told the team that he wanted to meet 'em at.
Jones
And where did he want 'em to meet him at?
Donnelly
He wanted to meet him at uh, off, of...off the field.
Jones
Which was near where?
Donnelly
Which was...it was on the other side of the, it was on the uh, if you walked on to the practice field, it would be off to the right of the tree.
Jones
Okay. So that's where the team was supposed to meet after the gassers?
Donnelly
Yeah.
Jones
And did the team eventually go to that area?
Donnelly
Yes.
Jones
Okay. and Max was being attended to?
Donnelly
Yes.
Jones
Okay.
Donnelly
Uh, as I said, at, at first by me and then by Steve...Steve Ellis, and Steve Deacon and
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Craig...and Craig Webb. Jones
Okay. Uh, Sgt. Butler...
Butler
Yes. Uh, I got a few questions for you, Coach. Uh, water break 1630 to 1645...that's pretty much the whole team. Correct?
Donnelly
Which
Butler
The, the first one at, at about 4:30...4:45...
Donnelly
Yes.
Butler
And then from there you all break down and you're working with the offensive line and defensive line. Correct? And that's kind of all...
Donnelly
...We were doing a match period after that point. A timing period.
Butler
Match. And during that timing period, you've got team 1, team 2, which consists of either Varsity, JV, freshmen. Right?
Donnelly
Yeah. Well, we had team 1, team 2, and we actually a, I think we pro'bly got a freshman unit going as well.
Butler
So from that point to when the last water break was given at about 1720...somethin' like that, which...or about 5:20 pm?
Donnelly
Yes.
Butler
You all are givin' 'em breaks is like is team 1 is not running, they're runnin' over gettin 'water.
one
are
you
talking
about?
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Donnelly
They were told to, yes.
Butler
And team 2, when, when they're out, they're goin' to get water.
Donnelly
Yes.
Butler
At some point during that, you're all rotating players in and out...
Donnelly
...Yes...
Butler
...like tackles for guards...
Donnelly
...Yes...
Butler
...and guards for tackles. Uh, at 17...or at 5:20 pm, when everybody breaks, prior to the conditioning started...
Donnelly
...Um-hmm...
Butler
...starting...is it possible that some players or some groups may not have gotten a water break?
Donnelly
Everybody was...I can only speak for my group. And our group, our group had a water break.
Butler
Christian Vincent?
Donnelly
Yes.
Butler
What position is he?
Donnelly
He's a, he's a defensive tackle.
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Butler
Okay. Would he have been in that group prior to the conditioning?
Donnelly
Defensive line would have been over there during belly period. Yes.
Butler
Okay. Deandré Cole?
Donnelly
Uhm, he's not an offensive lineman, so I can't speak.
Butler
Okay.
Donnelly
I don't...I'm not sure.
Butler
Uh, and then when the conditioning starts, Steve Deacon...Coach Steve Deacon...where would...you, you, we have gone through where all the coaches are...
Donnelly
Um-hmm...
Butler
Now where would Coach Steve Deacon be at that point?
Donnelly
I'm not too sure where Steve was at.
Butler
Okay.
Donnelly
I can't...he was not over on the line with us.
Butler
How about Coach Lightle?
Donnelly
He was on the line for a while, I believe. I saw him over there.
Butler
Okay.
And in a normal conditioning, what
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would "normal" uh, gassers be? I mean...how many? Donnelly
How many? Six to eight.
Butler
Okay. And, on this date, on August 20th, how many gassers do you think the team ran?
Donnelly
I really don't know.
Butler
Okay.
Donnelly
I can't...I, I don't wanna speculate.
Butler
Okay. And that's fair enough. Uh, at some point you see Antonio start laboring...
Donnelly
...Yes.
Butler
Do you bring that to Coach Stinson's attention or did he bring that to your attention?
Donnelly
I brought it to Coach Stinson's attention.
Butler
And then the decision was made to take Antonio Calloway and Dave West off...
Donnelly
...Yes...
Butler
...to get them some treatment.
Donnelly
Yes.
Butler
Did you leave the field with them?
Donnelly
Yes.
Butler
Okay. How long do you think you were over
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with Antonio, makin' sure that he's being treated and taken care of? (Writes). Donnelly
Umm, at least five minutes.
Butler
Okay. And then at that point, you walk back to your position.
Donnelly
Yes.
Butler
Are they, are we still running gassers?
Donnelly
Yes.
Butler
Okay. You get to your position, at what point do we say, gassers are done?
Donnelly
As soon as I got over there the one group finished, he told 'em to start headin' to the tree.
Butler
"He" would be...
Donnelly
Coach Stinson.
Butler
Coach Stinson. So...
Donnelly
...or head over, he pointed...so I then, the second group started and I just automatically started walkin' over there toward the sideline, heading that direction.
Butler
And that's when you noticed the players...
Donnelly
...Yes...
Butler
...assisting Max and you...
Donnelly
...Yes...
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Butler
...and, and you go to render aid to Max...
Donnelly
Yes.
Butler
...and yell for help.
Donnelly
Yes.
Butler
At what point does the gaiter show up?
Donnelly
It was...it had to be less than two minutes.
Butler
Okay.
Donnelly
It was very quick.
Butler
Do you think it was your call for assistance, when you said "help"? Did they hear or...
Donnelly
I don't know...
Butler
...Okay...
Donnelly
...I just know it was there.
Butler
Was Coach...did "Coach Stinson, was he aware that...
Donnelly
I do not know.
Butler
Okay. Uh, and then from that point, the rest of the team is at a team meeting...
Donnelly
...with Coach Stinson...
Butler
...at the shade tree...
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Donnelly
...Yes...
Butler
...are you with, at that meeting or are you with Max?...
Donnelly
I'm kinda in between.
Butler
Okay.
Donnelly
I was...I started walkin' toward the team and then I decided to go over there and check on...check on Antonio and Max and see what was goin' on there.
Butler
Okay. Uh, and then you stayed there until the EMT's arrived?
Donnelly
No. Uh, once I, once I realized they had called...they had already called the EMT's at that point...uh, I started walkin' out the gate to go...I was gonna walk up to the front to give directions to the ambulance, where it was...uh, on my way out uh, some parent...I don't know who she was...started askin' me a bunch of questions. I was kinda short with her. I didn't...I didn't know who she was...didn't know...you know...she said she had heard Max went down and uh, I said what...and I said well, I don't...I just told her that yes...she said had an ambulance been called, I said yes, uh, you know. I was kinda short with her, 'cause I wanted to get to, to where the ambulance was.
Butler
Okay. Uh, are you aware of any preexisting health conditions with Antonio?
Donnelly
I'm aware, I coached Antonio in track...I know he had a heart murmur but was cleared to
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participate in sports. Butler
Okay.
Donnelly
...so I was aware of that.
Butler
Was he on...did he have asthma?
Donnelly
...Not to my...
Butler
...or was he on a breathing treatment or any...
Donnelly
Not to my knowledge, no.
Butler
Okay.
Donnelly
Uh...
Butler
I think that's all I have.
Jones
I just have a few more and then we'll conclude. Uh, uh...but at any point did any players uh, was any players in your presence denied water?
Donnelly
Not to my knowledge, no.
Jones
And did any of your players under, while you was conducting your drills, ask for water?
Donnelly
No.
Jones
Okay. And did you see uh, Max Gilpin uh, uh...training, did you see him while he was doing his drills? Did he appear to be okay?
Donnelly
Uh, yes. I mean he doesn't...I didn't get on...I didn't have to correct him, I didn't get on him...
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Jones
...Okay...
Donnelly
...uh, he's one of those kids who just kinda blends in to the woodwork, when you see him, he has a smile on his face...
Jones
Yes, sir.
Donnelly
And he's a yes, sir or a no, sir kid.
Jones
So at no time he was in distress or anything like that?
Donnelly
I never noticed it.
Jones
During the, during the, during the, the stretching, during the uh, buck drills, during the uh, team drills...and during the gassers...
Donnelly
Yes.
Jones
...he n ever exhibited any...
Donnelly
....No...
Jones
...any unusual behavior.
Donnelly
I did not notice it.
Jones
Uh, now who's in charge of taking the uh, hygrometer? Who's in charge of that?
Donnelly
Coach Stinson.
Jones
And did he in fact take readings that day?
Donnelly
To my knowledge, yes, he did.
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Jones
Okay. And uh, the training uh, uh...that day, consisted of, of certain things you had to do at, at a particular time...being on schedule and...that's what I'm trying to ask. Was it, was the training on schedule or was it off schedule?
Donnelly
I thought we started off schedule a little bit.
Jones
Okay. And do you know the reasoning why the...do you know the reason why the conditioning started earlier?
Donnelly
I don't have a specific answer. No.
Jones
And that's entirely from the coach's decision?
Donnelly
Yes.
Jones
Head coach Stinson. Is that correct?
Donnelly
Yes.
Jones
Okay. I don't have anything. You?
Butler
I got one more follow-up for you. Uh, after Antonio gets sick...
Donnelly
...yes...
Butler
...and your attention is focused on Antonio...
Donnelly
...Right...
Butler
...did you see any other player get sick...
Donnelly
No.
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Butler
...or, or vomit?
Donnelly
No.
Butler
Okay. That's it.
Jones
Okay. Just follow-up. Did you see any...did you observe any players denied water by any particular coach?
Donnelly
No. To my knowledge, they all watered. And water's made available before practice.
Jones
Okay.
Donnelly
And whatever is available in the locker-room as well, before they go out there.
Jones
And, and on the field, while practicing, the only water available is the watering area at the, the soccer field.
Donnelly
...Yes. Yes...
Jones
There's no trainer, there's no water bottles available to players, nothin' like that?
Donnelly
Not to my knowledge, no. We...I think they work strictly with the pipe.
Jones^
Which is the watering device...
Donnelly
water hose. Yes.
Jones
Watering device. Okay. Okay...is there anything I didn't ask you, anything of important we, we didn't cover or anything you wanna follow up on?
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Donnelly
No.
Jones
Sgt. Butler?
Butler
No, nothin'.
Jones
Mr. Miller?
Miller
I have no questions.
Jones
Okay. At this time we will conclude. Mr. Donnelly, I thank you for your time. Uh, we will go off record. Time now is 1141 hours.
END OF STATEMENT File #08197cjones-ks
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