Creation And Evolution

Creation Vs Evolution Rev 9-Jul-09 The Bibles “Big Bang” rendition of Creation.

In the early part of 2004, we heard that the scientist were discussing the results of the Mars landing, and that it appears that there was water on that planet at one time. Here is a cut and paste of one of the remarks made representing the scientific community: “Stephen Squyres, principal scientist for the MER mission, said NASA researchers do believe Meridiani Planum, the broader area where Opportunity landed, had a habitable climate for some period of time, “,It doesn't mean life was there," Squyres said. "But this was a habitable place." Legend: My words are in bold blue, [my entries], Christ' words are in red, Words in black are KJV text lifted from scripture. Caps and/or underlining are my personal added emphasis. Numbers preceded by "H" of "G" represent the Strong's Exhaustive Concordance Hebrew or Greek reference number. Almost everyone who has read the very first few chapters of Genesis has undoubtedly been affronted with some questions as to the validity of this work that God had performed. The reason is simply because of apathetic man and his limited concern and limited imagination when trying to conceive these things in their mind. Of course the interpreters of this story have added their personal touches and ended up injecting confusion along the way. With the teaching of the NT, we are encouraged to accept what is written in the OT by faith, and this is excellent advice to use for creating a foundation for one’s faith. However, for the doubtful or skeptical, who find difficulty in accepting these writings, I would like to offer my interpretation of the matter. At this point, it must be understood that all bibles are not the same and the printed word for most is the result of a translator and is sometimes a reflection of their personal spirit in those cases when translating becomes complicated for them. This happens quite often simply due to the fact that many Hebrew words do not have a direct equivalent in the target language. Therefore, IMHO [In my humble opinion]: The first obstacle to be overcome is that of the time frame of the seeming six days for his creation. Modern man defines a day as roughly 24 hours on the clock or one revolution of the earth using the sun as his reference. Taking into account that the sun was not made until the fourth day of God’s building project, how long then was "a day" before the sun was made? It could have been millions of years, or a thousand. It all depends on the point of reference. So in this case, God has his reference and you can be sure that it is not our sun. Peter says:

2 Pet 3:8 "But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day". This works out to be a ratio of roughly 365000 to 1 if you like, but this is far from the point of interest and should not be considered in this particular interpretation. The major concern to consider is that when God intervenes, the laws governing time and events like the laws of nature are seemingly bypassed in a sense, somewhat like when Jesus multiplies the bread and the fishes, or other seeming miracles demonstrated by other prophets as well. The second obstacle is; "What is meant by "the beginning"? For most of us, this period of time would be relative to the subject matter, therefore in this case could be the created universe up until the time when God finished his work and rested on his seventh day. However, this must include that time period that pre-existed our Physical/material creation, before God said or did anything related to this Earth. This pre-creation period would be that time when God was contemplating his personal being. God's Kingdom could have included angels along with other spiritual beings. The "Christ" for example, according to scripture, existed, even if only as an idea/spirit in God's mind, however not in a human bodily form at that time. In my way of interpreting the bible, the context for scripture, from the beginning through the end of the Bible, is demonstrating to this world the kingdom that the Heavenly Father was preparing for his first born son. This takes us from the pure spiritual existence, through the material and finally a return to the pure spiritual world when all things will be made new. Therefore, according to my way of thinking, all life forms could have been in existence before the Earth or any other celestial body was made. To me, it is a certainty that all basic life forms existed in those “Waters”(Gen1:2) that existed before God’s construction phase began. IOW’s all basic building blocks for all of God’s Universe were already generated and made ready to be transported throughout the Universe. However, when God created the Heavens and the Earth, before he said “let there be light”, this does not mean that He stopped creating before then, for in Gen 1:21, after the Creator made the sun and moon for examples. God “creates” the whales etc. Therefore he also creates as he goes, so to speak. The third obstacle is; "How can this (Genesis ch1) be"? It is only natural that a person might ask himself when nothing of what he is reading seems to fit or make good sense. The problem is resolved by paying close attention while you read these words and then choosing to believe what is written while exercising a little patience. The expression "reading it forwards and backwards" would be helpful. Of course, meditating on what one hears or reads about God's words, is necessary for true understanding. Before we start analyzing the Creation account, try to keep in mind some of the information the Bible has to offer, regarding God’s aspects. First off, God is not a man, Ref: Num 23:19 (KJV) “God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not

do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?” Second, he is invisible: 1 Tim 1:17 (KJV) “Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.” [This invisible aspect is testified by His existence even before there was light.] And third, Paul has this to say: Acts 17:28 (KJV) “For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.” Consequently, in my humble opinion, when we read that: Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. [This could represent the title of God's work; Or, this could be a statement of conclusion, meaning that everything was contemplated, conceived, caused to exist; brought into being and created spiritually in the mind of Yahuah/Yahweh before actual material existence, but not yet made visible or completed physically at that point in time. This is an interesting point to meditate on, for God surely spent eons of time thinking about things before deciding to actually do anything. On a closer examination, and the help of a Hebrew dictionary/lexicon/concordance, we understand that there is a big difference in the words “made/H6213/asah” & “Create/H1254/bara”: to create means to come up with something new and then doing/building/making it. Therefore, it has become evident to me that the creation event was accomplished in two distinct phases. The first phase was when God created everything up to the point when our planet was more or less stabilized after the sun and the moon were in place. The second phase is when God again intervenes and creates the animal life forms. If this were true, then everything from this verse onwards in the bible, is God’s manner of filling the gap between the beginning and the end of this Earth’s material, physical nature designed for His chosen offspring. Therefore, this present time period we are in can be seen as a type stress testing, or debugging time needed for the purification process necessary, but not only for this Earth but for all future inhabitable planets throughout all of creation/The Universe. Romans 8:22 - 23 (KJV) For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now. And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body. [Just a small note here; It is the soul that will be redeemed, and then be given a new body. The OT has references to this idea. (Ps 49:8; 2Sam4:9; 1Ki 1:29; Ps 34:22; Ps 49:15; Ps 69:18; Ps 71:23; Ps

72:14). Only in this verse is the body saved. IMHO it seems to be in error.] The final stage for this Earth, when the material nature is removed, is already seen just as we can already see Jesus, “one like unto the Son of man” (Rev 1:13) and seated on his throne in the New Jerusalem as the eternal King and High Priest in his own kingdom, that His Father had planned, in the beginning, from the following moments after contemplated reproducing offspring in His own image. Then, when all things are made new, we can also see those souls throughout the Universe, that will be cleansed through belief in God’s words; thus completing the life cycle of all things from spiritual conception, through the material state and then returning to the pure spiritual state again, after purification. (see the reflections of this in Luke 15:11-32, The parable of the prodigal Son).] Gen 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. [In the first sentence, in this verse, if one were to take these words literally, and following the concept I just presented in the first verse, the Earth, along with everything else planned in God’s total universe, already existed, if however, only in the divine mind, in a non physical state; it's material state being manifested during the weekly Construction period. The Earth was however empty and without any material substance/void; much like an inventor who thinks through his plan before wasting efforts on something that might not be feasible, functional or useful; In other words, on the drawing board. At this point, nothing in the universe existed materially except for the “waters” (second sentence), which contained all of the building blocks required for the entire completed project plus the material necessary for creating all basic life forms, made ready for transporting throughout the cosmos. These building blocks would eventually become the material that fills the void and gives form and substance to the physical objects that now fill the Heavens. However, at this point in time, nothing yet made. The big question at this point in the story is: “where did these “waters” come from”? These waters were generated, during God’s thinking/preparation stage. If one were to try to imagine a concentrated sphere of gases/waters at the very center of the cosmos, it might be helpful as a starting point for understanding/seeing the invisible God. These “waters” could have served in His beginning, as a sort of abode for himself. In that God is an invisible/spiritual light that shines in the dark, this light was not the same light to be released from those waters, therefore no manifestation of visible light, nonetheless, He was the all and in all from the very beginning. These waters/gases were most likely beginning to be in a semi-compacted state, being made ready for

God’s “Big Bang”, however, God's spirit surrounded the surface of these gases/waters as if to contain or maintain control, until the timing was right for their release. It might be helpful to consider that these “waters” were necessary for the next phase; that of manifesting light. Without matter, no light could be produced for it takes some type of energy to produce or emit light.] Gen 1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. [At the command of God, those words excited this gaseous matter, maybe resembling somewhat like a heartbeat, resulting with some of these molecules beginning to respond as the energy that was in God’s words impregnated their existence and they began to react, move , collide and then radiate with God's glory. This further causing the possible exchange of protons, and the splendor of God's waters began to reflect areas of physical/visible light. At this point you must understand that God speaks in the language understood by the objects to which He is addressing. It was probably not Hebrew.  Another way to state this idea for our modern times could be: God "communicated" rather than God "said". So when God spoke his first words of the building project, the spiritual force of his command placed these gaseous materials in motion, and there was physical light. The argument that this light was "enlightenment" looses its strength due to the fact that God had to have been enlightened long before this construction phase was decided on. Obviously, YHWH is not careless and he does not speak prematurely. In my way of thinking, I see this step as God compressing, with his spirits, these gases/waters to a point when they begin to give off light, indicating to God that they were now ready for being released out into space.] Gen 1:4-5 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day. [At this point, the movement of these gases, God's visible light began to overtake the darkness of the night, manifesting itself into physical light and then ebbs to night again. This could be seen somewhat resembling a heart beat in the waters. Note that the darkness preceded the light, thus the evening preceded the day from the OT biblical standpoint.] Gen 1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. [Again God spoke and this time his spirit impregnated waters/gases responded in an explosion of sorts, (God’s Big Bang) as the gases/matter now begin to move out in all directions away from their initial centralized position. As this matter now starts to vacate it's initial location, Heaven (space/the firmament) is established, separating the waters. This movement

could also be seen as if God himself is being liberated from his then present material abode while, at the same time, giving birth to the entire material universe itself. (It does say that He is the “All in all”) This would be somewhat equivalent to the "Big Bang" theory in expression, at this particular point in time. Be reminded that this recounting of the Creation event was put in writing well over three thousand years ago. This should, by itself, testify to being inspired of/by The Holy Spirit.] Gen 1:7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. [At this point, you now have these watery/gaseous matter moving out into emptiness and then beginning to re-accumulate into clumps or clustering masses of watery matter. These will eventually be grouped into the galaxies and then solar systems as we understand them today. However, at this point, the narrative concentrates on what was to eventually evolve into our Earth which had already been decided when our Heavens/skies were being made. At the same time, this same process was continuing throughout the Universe as these divided waters were being transported towards their designed destination and ready for all the other planets and suns that were projected and now being built.] Gen 1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day. [Heaven first, as the watery, gaseous particles are being divided by the space (firmament) and next the planets/worlds. Obviously, our heavens/skies were already starting to be made as the "waters" were being divided, controlled by he laws of physics and working together, separating the waters, so to speak.] Gen 1:9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so. [Try to imagine, if you will, a universe being dotted with “watery” clouds as the magnetic forces of the molecules began to accumulate into masses, as this gaseous watery matter travel out into space. As time continues, these clouds begin to be concentrated towards their cores creating a mass at the center and then eventually causing gravity by this same process. This process, could be not much different than how water droplets form around a particle of dust, that eventually fall from the sky as raindrops. Therefore, the birth of each celestial body could be the same, the only difference being the size of each body. As this condensation type process continued, a cooling effect of these elements results, causing a condensation effect of these gases into liquid condensates which would evolve eventually into planets or sums, depending on the size of each celestial cloud. As these condensing gaseous clouds began to form, the weightier matter began to be

concentrated towards their core center, eventually resulting in gravitational forces under the laws of physics. As this process continues, some of these nuclei eventually evolved into our planets/dry land whereas other larger bodies were destine to become our so-called suns or stars or other celestial matter. Note: The time requirement for an object to grow to the mass require for our planet, was only two days or so for the planets and about three days to become stars/suns. We can know this for they appear on Gods third and fourth days respectively.] Gen 1:10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good. [At this point our Earthly sphere is dry land only at the center and surrounded by seas of water. In other words, no dry surface land as yet, while the settling process continues and biological life processes related to plant life are ready to begin.] Gen 1:11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so. [As the Earth nears completion of it’s settling process, and conditions stabilize, the plant life begin to be developed.] Gen 1:12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good. [All being developed, still under water, by the chemosynthesis (chemical) process. No suns or sunshine yet]. Gen 1:13 And the evening and the morning were the third day. Gen 1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years. [At this point, some of those objects that were being assembled during God's second and third days began to grow into suns, due to the nuclear reaction caused by the their sheer mass and intense heat of their molten centers; they simply burst into flame. As the sun was being formed, giving birth to our solar system, the initial condensation process for our planet now began to reverse itself, resulting in an evaporation processes caused by the heat produced by our sun. This also establishes the hospitable atmosphere for our orbiting planet. This would give reason to the scientist who just last year (2005) concluded that Mars too was under water at one time. Again, keep in mind that these scriptures are over three thousand years ago. It is only now that science is starting to reveal information that verifies what the bible had reported so long ago.]

Gen 1:15-19 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good. And the evening and the morning were the fourth day. [This process of adding the moon was probably necessary to establish the hospitable climate on our planet. The sun being in place is now the cause for the development towards higher life forms on our earth as it continues it's evolution progresses.] Up to this stage, it appears that this was all created/ devised, invented, originated, designed, before God said “Let there be light”; meaning everything from the second, third, and forth day were “made/H6213/‛âśâh, not created. The first day was to establish visibility and time. This was not “created/H1254/bara”. It is important to recognize the different Hebrew terms used here. To make no distinction between “create” and “made” spells trouble/confusion. Gen 1:20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven. [At this point, still no dry surface land as yet. However, those animal creatures, along with other living organism, like the bugs and other free moving life forms now begin to appear, with the fish inhabiting the more dense areas nearer the earth's surface while the flying fish, then birds developing into the outer, less dense regions.] Gen 1:21-22 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good. And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth. And the evening and the morning were the fifth day. [During this past forth and fifth day period, the Earth was in it’s drying out phase so by the ending of the fifth day, most everything was still under water, whoever, there must have begun to appear dry spots on the Earth, for here it seems that the birds were the first to multiply on the dry land, making ready for all of the other land animals.] Gen 1:23 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so. [At this point, the evaporation progressed had progressed to the point of revealing a sufficient amount of dry surface land thus now made ready for dry surface animal life. The

evaporation process still continues to dry out our earth up until the time after Adam was made. Reference this next verse for confirmation of the above:] Gen 2:4 - 6 (KJV) These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens, 5And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. 6 But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground. [It is important to note this last part for this verse confirms, to me at least, the evaporation process as stated above. The "greenhouse effect" is what maintained the temperature required to sustain selected life forms. At this point, it must be said that, if this above process is correct, then all planets, being formed from the same like substance, most certainly, had life forms in their evolution process, understanding that they were all born out of the same “waters”.] Notice here that God again starts “creating” again with Gen 1:21, with the great whales etc. This could indicate that now God was directly involved in controlling animal life forms and not just letting it to natural chance. Gen 1:25-26 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good. And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. [Notice that now we have dry surface land, thus land animals on this sixth day, and that man is last to be “made” in this creation period. However, in verse 26, I see that: when God said “let us make man in our image” I am persuaded that writer meant that God is speaking to his just made animal kingdom and then making man part animal, and part spiritual, as we now understand “man” to be. See Gen 3:22. However, it does not read this way in the bibles that I read from. There is confusion here and leads most to believe that Gen 2 is a second creation account, which I disagree with; for it adds contradictions with the first account. To me, chapter 2:1-7, is a summation of Gen 1, and starting with Gen2:8 we have a flash back in time to when man is

placed in the garden. If this understanding were true, it would remove the confusion and contradictions and would restore harmony with Gen 1.] Genesis 1:27 - 30 (KJV) So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish/to fill the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so. [Here it is emphasized that God “created” man. This to me indicates that he came up with something new/different, not just something evolved as a modification of something made before; an ape for example. This is what distinguishes man from all other animals; for now man is also partly in the image of his creator.] Gen 1:31-2:3 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day. Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made. [Note also that God starts his Sabbath day rest, which lasts a full day according to God's calendar, and a thousand years for man’s, and then he gets directly involved again in his work, just before the big flood.] Here we are now at that point in our development when everything was made and our Earth resembled an egg orbiting our sun: the cloud coverage representing the egg shell, the albumen our atmosphere and the yoke our planet. At what point in time it began to rain on the earth isn't clear, but it could have been no earlier than Gen 6. The evidence of not having any rainbow is due to the thick cloud-like coverage that will practically disappear with the flood when God finally places the rainbow in our heavens, but only after The Deluge. Here is something written in the book of Job that suits the situation: Job 38:9 (YHWH speaking) When I made the cloud the garment thereof, and thick darkness a swaddling band for it, etc.

From this point in scripture (Gen 2), the scene shifts back to the sixth day when man was made. This verse does not represent a second account or different opinion as some are led to believe, IMHO. Gen 2:7-8 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed. etc. etc. [Note that man (his body) was made first, and then after God breathed the breath of life into the man, he then became a living soul; the first living soul of the species homo sapiens. All descendents from Adam on, now have a soul, and this soul is the hidden invisible man of the “heart” so to speak, that constitutes the human being which now occupies a human body. It is conceded that trying to think, using a different time frame to figure these things out, is at the least difficult, but with a little patience and a nudge from the holy spirit, one could believe the account more or less how it was written. When Jesus performed the multiplication of the loaves and fishes, the time required was minimized, so to speak. I personally believe this story of Creation just as it is written. For a Christian, they are urged to believe it also. So time in these cases are relative. It must be understood that different bibles present a slightly different interpretation than this KJV but variations are relatively small and should present no great difference. At this point of man's history, things become a little more clear as the bible describes them; Once man is thrown out of the Garden of Eden and is left on his own for the next 1000 years as God has his seventh day rest. This rest ends just before the time of the Flood when, God gets back to work and intervenes with his material creation on this Earth. Gen 6:1-3 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. And the LORD/YHWH said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. [It appears that on God's return, he discovered another problem with Earth as his other celestial sons start to become attracted to the daughters of man.] If we continue with this train of reasoning, the date of God's return would be sometime roughly around 2300-2200 BC. (Calculated using the information according to the Biblical dates given in Genesis from Abraham going backwards. Assuming that the birth of Abraham was around 1936 BC). It is important to believe that starting anew under Noah, God had plans/laws laid out that will eventually aid man in correcting some of the defects which were inherent in their souls, and whom God had chosen as potential inhabitants for the Kingdom of his

firstborn son by bring some of them to salvation. It's my opinion that from the time of Adam until the end of our earth as we know it (materialistic in nature), 7000years (seven days using Gods weekly calendar) will pass and then the last trumpet will sound announcing the final judgment for material Earth and it's contents. IMHO, we are at the end of the sixth day, using this above reasoning, so if my calculations are correct, the time is short and the prophesy on Satan being chained up for a thousand years is about to begin. My guess is that the earth is going to flip over on its axis, or the magnetic poles are about to shift, or something like that. Ref Rev 6:13-14 And the stars/comets of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. [Whatever the case, it's going to be a rough time for all on this Earth, for scripture says:] Mat 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. [Amen] This rendition undoubtedly will not be sufficient to make many people believe the story of creation, however if a person wants to believe and needs some help on this matter, I hope that this will be of some use towards their understanding. For the rest, I recommend that they try with all their might to believe that "God says what he means and means what he says". So before you reject anything attributed to God's word, use pure blind trust [Faith] in his words and promises, and he will give you spiritual food, which is strength for the soul, in return. P.s. With the "Big Bang" theory, offered by the scientific community, how did most all of those suns or other orbiting objects become almost perfectly round, or was that initial object that made the "Big Bang" made like a shotgun shell inside? May God bless you. simply "Christian"