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September 09, 2008
The time is approximately 1224 hours. Today’s date is Tuesday, September 09, 2008. Speaking is Detective Timothy Hightower of the Louisville Metro Police Homicide Squad. This will be a taped statement in regards to Case #08-197. I am currently in my vehicle in the parking lot of PRP High School. Also, present with me in the car; his first name is Kody, last name Thornton. Kody, if you would state your full name for the tape.
Thornton
Kody Alan Thornton.
Hightower
And what is your date of birth?
Thornton Hightower
And what’s your home address? x
Thornton Hightower
Is that in Louisville, Kentucky?
Thornton
Yes sir.
Hightower
And your zip code?
Thornton
40258.
Hightower
And your home phone number?
Thornton Hightower
Okay, and Kody, what are you…what are you here at the school; are you a freshman?
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Thornton
I’m a sophomore.
Hightower
A sophomore, okay, and you said your middle name was Alan?
Thornton
Alan.
Hightower
Yes sir, A-l-l…
Thornton
Alan.
Hightower
O.K. This taped statement is being recorded. Does this approve with your approval?
Thornton
Yes.
Hightower
I’m taking this statement in reference to the events that occurred on Wednesday, August 20, 2008, that occurred during the PRP football practice. Kody, if you would please describe to me the events of that Wednesday, August 20, 2008; from the beginning of practice to the end of practice?
Thornton
It started out and we normally stretch an inzone and after we stretch, we go to our individuals, which is defense; goes runs their plays, and offence runs a different plays. Actually and we ran we uh, weren’t doing, we were walking to the individuals so we had to go back a few times, go back to in-zone break it down again and run back. Last we did individuals, we went to uh… we did our team take-offs, I mean, then we went to our individuals and after the individuals we started to the teams and we ran.
Hightower
Okay, what team do you play on?
Page 3 of 12 Statement: Kody Alan Thornton / 08-197 Date: September 09, 2008
Thornton
I’m on the defense team.
Hightower
O.K. So practice, were you in full equipment?
Thornton
Yes sir. Full gear.
Hightower
What is full gear?
Thornton
Shoulder Pads, Helmet, Pants, Cleats.
Hightower
And you said you play your position is defense?
Thornton
Defensive tackle and defensive end.
Hightower
O.K. So you practice you broke off into separate teams. Is that correct?
Thornton
Yes sir.
Hightower
O.K. So if you would go from there, you broke off into your teams and you’re in the defensive…
Thornton
Yes.
Hightower
…the team? And what does that consist of that practice?
Thornton
The individuals existed of us just the defensive line working on our agilities; working like we do, we get our… do little warm ups again, we get our knees, we run do high knees for about 5 yards, we do them twice, we do uh, butt kickers twice and we do some hip rolls and butt rolls and dancing, which is like we kara… … which like karaoke’s. After we do that we got water. The defensive line got water, came
Page 4 of 12 Statement: Kody Alan Thornton / 08-197 Date: September 09, 2008
back and I think from directly hit, we went to the bags that’s when we—we got 5 bags on the ground and we jump over the bags, one foot in every hole and after… then after we do them, we uh… we went with the offense. The offense we’re doing a drill called buck drill. Hightower
What is that?
Thornton
The buck drill?
Hightower
Yes.
Thornton
It’s where they run buck one of our offenses plays, they run it and we have a few defensive guys out there just trying to just in spots where the offenses couches want us and we just try to--we just hit where we’re suppose to hit and the offense runs there, the buck drilling. Run to where we’re supposed to be, the blockers got to get where they’re supposed to be and that’s what we do. Then after that we ran the buck drill and then uh, after the buck drill we ended up, we went to go get water and then we ran right after the buck drill because we were —because the guy, I guess everybody was walking and so we ran from the buck drill so.
Hightower
How many water breaks were y’all given as an individual or a team?
Thornton
As an individual on the defensive side, I think we were given 2 to 3.
Hightower
Okay and that’s gonna be on the…
Thornton
That’s on defensive—that’s on the defenses line. I’m pretty sure we got 2 or 3.
Page 5 of 12 Statement: Kody Alan Thornton / 08-197 Date: September 09, 2008
Hightower
All right. 2… 2 to 3, what about as a team?
Thornton
Uh, we got… I think 1 or 2.
Hightower
And how many of the water breaks did you take on that August the 20th of 2008?
Thornton
Every water break we had.
Hightower
Every one.
Thornton
Yes sir. We’re not allowed to not take a water break. There’s a water break, we have to go take it.
Hightower
O.K. After the last water break what did practice consist of?
Thornton
Running, gasers.
Hightower
Gasers, what are those?
Thornton
One side of the field together and back.
Hightower
Back?
Thornton
Back to the other side and back.
Hightower
So that’s how many times?
Thornton
So it’s you’re down one, back, down again and back. That’s one gasers, so that’s 4 times.
Hightower
4 times that’s one gasers, okay. Why was the team running those sprints?
Thornton
Because they—because we were walking during practice and not doing what we were supposed to be doing.
Page 6 of 12 Statement: Kody Alan Thornton / 08-197 Date: September 09, 2008
Hightower
How many sprints did your group run?
Thornton
We all ran as a group so…
Hightower
You all ran as a group, the whole team?
Thornton
Yes, yes. Uh… I don’t… I want to say 20s— 30s.
Hightower
20’s—30’s?
Thornton
Yeah, that’s what I was… that’s what I was told by people that were keeping count by teams that players that were able to quit running because they were running good. I heard 20’s—30’s.
Hightower
20…
Thornton
I just heard different thing; I never really…
Hightower
O.K. You never kept count?
Thornton
No, I didn’t keep count. about that.
Hightower
So that 20 or 30 is what you heard other teammates say?
Thornton
Teammates say, yeah.
Hightower
And you had said you were in the uh, you ran at the team?
Thornton
Yeah.
Hightower
How many sprints did you run before you took off your gear?
I wasn’t worried
Page 7 of 12 Statement: Kody Alan Thornton / 08-197 Date: September 09, 2008
Thornton
Uh, we probably ran about 8 and took off our helmets, then 2 more after that. So 10 altogether, we had our… after the 10th one we took off our shoulder pads.
Hightower
O.K. So you did 8 and you took off your helmet.
Thornton
And 10… then 2 more after the 8 we took off our helmet.
Hightower
2 more, yeah. You did 8?
Thornton
Took off the helmet.
Hightower
Took off the helmet and then you did 2 more.
Thornton
And then we took off the shoulder pads.
Hightower
Then the shoulder pads you said. How many you do with the shoulder pads?
Thornton
Uh, 10.
Hightower
10.
Thornton
We did 10… we did 8 with the helmets on after the… during the 8th one we took our helmets off. Then we ran 2 more after the 8, then we took our shoulder pads off then. However many we ran after the shoulder pads; I do not know.
Hightower
O.K. How long do you think the team was running those sprints?
Thornton
45 minutes maybe to an hour.
Page 8 of 12 Statement: Kody Alan Thornton / 08-197 Date: September 09, 2008
Hightower
Did you or any of your teammates ask for water breaks?
Thornton
No sir.
Hightower
Or try to get water during the running of the sprints?
Thornton
Didn’t nobody say that.
Hightower
Did you or any of your teammates become ill by running the sprints?
Thornton
No sir.
Hightower
Nobody? During the practice this year have you personally seen or heard any teammates being injured?
Thornton
I’ve seen players get hurt from—not from running but they hurt their ankles or something like that.
Hightower
O.K.
Thornton
But I haven’t seen anybody get hurt from running.
Hightower
Any other injuries besides ankles? That’s the only one you saw ankles?
Thornton
I’ve seen ankles, shoulders.
Hightower
Shoulders okay.
Thornton
Just like stingers and things like that.
Hightower
Stingers, okay.
Page 9 of 12 Statement: Kody Alan Thornton / 08-197 Date: September 09, 2008
Thornton
I’ve never seen anybody get hurt from running.
Hightower
What about anybody quitting the team?
Thornton
Yeah, there was two people that day that, I think, they quit but I think they’re back on it.
Hightower
O.K. Who were the people that quit that day?
Thornton
David Engler and Chris Bryant.
Hightower
Chris Bryant… David Engler what is his race?
Thornton
White.
Hightower
O.K. And what about Chris Bryant?
Thornton
Bryant is white.
Hightower
O.K. So they both quit that day? Do you know when they quit the team, what time of that day they quit?
Thornton
During the running.
Hightower
During the running?
Thornton
Yes.
Hightower
Was that the reason they said or do you know the reason why they quit?
Thornton
No sir. They did… they just didn’t want to run no more that would be my guess.
Hightower
O.K. Now did you see Max collapse?
Thornton
After we ran, yes. Actually, no, because we ran this last one after David Engler and Bryant
Page 10 of 12 Statement: Kody Alan Thornton / 08-197 Date: September 09, 2008
we ran one more, and everybody… only a few people entered the running on that one because everybody walked over because he said we were done but a few of the defensive guys they ran it anyways; they ran down, they ran back, and when I was walking towards the bleachers or whatever your are supposed to take a knee at. I seen him—I seen him on the ground and people running to get ice to him and water towards him. Hightower
O.K.
Thornton
And then uh, Athletic director Mr. Sweat, he was on his way over there.
Hightower
O.K. So you… when you were walking towards the uh, the tree, I guess you said to put and walking towards the tree when you got over there, then you looked around that’s when you saw him down?
Thornton
Yes sir.
Hightower
O.K. You said who ran to him?
Thornton
Uh, we had Coach Steve and a few—and a few other coaches, I think, and then Tray is… is the water—water boy.
Hightower
Tray, uh did anybody else get sick or collapse?
Thornton
Antonio Galloway.
Hightower
Antonio Galloway you say. occur before Max’s or after?
Thornton
Before Max.
When did his
Page 11 of 12 Statement: Kody Alan Thornton / 08-197 Date: September 09, 2008
Hightower
What happened with him?
Thornton
And he had a hard trouble breathing… breathing.
Hightower
Hard trouble breathing?
Thornton
Yes.
Hightower
Did he continue to practice or did he stop?
Thornton
He stopped and they carried him over to the water.
Hightower
They carried him over to the water? about anybody else?
Thornton
No sir.
Hightower
Has anyone influenced you in any way to withhold information or change the facts that actually occurred during the practice?
Thornton
No sir, he told us to tell the… tell the truth and nothing but the truth.
Hightower
O.K. Who told you to tell that?
Thornton
Coach Stinson.
Hightower
Coach Stinson
Hightower
O.K. Is this statement the truth that you have given me?
Thornton
Yes sir.
Hightower
Do you have anything else to add to this statement that I haven’t asked you?
What
Page 12 of 12 Statement: Kody Alan Thornton / 08-197 Date: September 09, 2008
Thornton
No sir.
Hightower
I’d like to end the statement. approximately 1237 hours.
END OF STATEMENT File #08-197hightower-ie
The time is
The time is approximately 1224 hours. Today’s date is Tuesday, September 09, 2008. Speaking is Detective Timothy Hightower of the Louisville Metro Police Homicide Squad. This will be a taped statement in regards to Case #08-197. I am currently in my vehicle in the parking lot of PRP High School. Also, present with me in the car; his first name is Kody, last name Thornton. Kody, if you would state your full name for the tape.
Thornton
Kody Alan Thornton.
Hightower
And what is your date of birth?
Thornton Hightower
And what’s your home address? x
Thornton Hightower
Is that in Louisville, Kentucky?
Thornton
Yes sir.
Hightower
And your zip code?
Thornton
40258.
Hightower
And your home phone number?
Thornton Hightower
Okay, and Kody, what are you…what are you here at the school; are you a freshman?
Page 2 of 12 Statement: Kody Alan Thornton / 08-197 Date: September 09, 2008
Thornton
I’m a sophomore.
Hightower
A sophomore, okay, and you said your middle name was Alan?
Thornton
Alan.
Hightower
Yes sir, A-l-l…
Thornton
Alan.
Hightower
O.K. This taped statement is being recorded. Does this approve with your approval?
Thornton
Yes.
Hightower
I’m taking this statement in reference to the events that occurred on Wednesday, August 20, 2008, that occurred during the PRP football practice. Kody, if you would please describe to me the events of that Wednesday, August 20, 2008; from the beginning of practice to the end of practice?
Thornton
It started out and we normally stretch an inzone and after we stretch, we go to our individuals, which is defense; goes runs their plays, and offence runs a different plays. Actually and we ran we uh, weren’t doing, we were walking to the individuals so we had to go back a few times, go back to in-zone break it down again and run back. Last we did individuals, we went to uh… we did our team take-offs, I mean, then we went to our individuals and after the individuals we started to the teams and we ran.
Hightower
Okay, what team do you play on?
Page 3 of 12 Statement: Kody Alan Thornton / 08-197 Date: September 09, 2008
Thornton
I’m on the defense team.
Hightower
O.K. So practice, were you in full equipment?
Thornton
Yes sir. Full gear.
Hightower
What is full gear?
Thornton
Shoulder Pads, Helmet, Pants, Cleats.
Hightower
And you said you play your position is defense?
Thornton
Defensive tackle and defensive end.
Hightower
O.K. So you practice you broke off into separate teams. Is that correct?
Thornton
Yes sir.
Hightower
O.K. So if you would go from there, you broke off into your teams and you’re in the defensive…
Thornton
Yes.
Hightower
…the team? And what does that consist of that practice?
Thornton
The individuals existed of us just the defensive line working on our agilities; working like we do, we get our… do little warm ups again, we get our knees, we run do high knees for about 5 yards, we do them twice, we do uh, butt kickers twice and we do some hip rolls and butt rolls and dancing, which is like we kara… … which like karaoke’s. After we do that we got water. The defensive line got water, came
Page 4 of 12 Statement: Kody Alan Thornton / 08-197 Date: September 09, 2008
back and I think from directly hit, we went to the bags that’s when we—we got 5 bags on the ground and we jump over the bags, one foot in every hole and after… then after we do them, we uh… we went with the offense. The offense we’re doing a drill called buck drill. Hightower
What is that?
Thornton
The buck drill?
Hightower
Yes.
Thornton
It’s where they run buck one of our offenses plays, they run it and we have a few defensive guys out there just trying to just in spots where the offenses couches want us and we just try to--we just hit where we’re suppose to hit and the offense runs there, the buck drilling. Run to where we’re supposed to be, the blockers got to get where they’re supposed to be and that’s what we do. Then after that we ran the buck drill and then uh, after the buck drill we ended up, we went to go get water and then we ran right after the buck drill because we were —because the guy, I guess everybody was walking and so we ran from the buck drill so.
Hightower
How many water breaks were y’all given as an individual or a team?
Thornton
As an individual on the defensive side, I think we were given 2 to 3.
Hightower
Okay and that’s gonna be on the…
Thornton
That’s on defensive—that’s on the defenses line. I’m pretty sure we got 2 or 3.
Page 5 of 12 Statement: Kody Alan Thornton / 08-197 Date: September 09, 2008
Hightower
All right. 2… 2 to 3, what about as a team?
Thornton
Uh, we got… I think 1 or 2.
Hightower
And how many of the water breaks did you take on that August the 20th of 2008?
Thornton
Every water break we had.
Hightower
Every one.
Thornton
Yes sir. We’re not allowed to not take a water break. There’s a water break, we have to go take it.
Hightower
O.K. After the last water break what did practice consist of?
Thornton
Running, gasers.
Hightower
Gasers, what are those?
Thornton
One side of the field together and back.
Hightower
Back?
Thornton
Back to the other side and back.
Hightower
So that’s how many times?
Thornton
So it’s you’re down one, back, down again and back. That’s one gasers, so that’s 4 times.
Hightower
4 times that’s one gasers, okay. Why was the team running those sprints?
Thornton
Because they—because we were walking during practice and not doing what we were supposed to be doing.
Page 6 of 12 Statement: Kody Alan Thornton / 08-197 Date: September 09, 2008
Hightower
How many sprints did your group run?
Thornton
We all ran as a group so…
Hightower
You all ran as a group, the whole team?
Thornton
Yes, yes. Uh… I don’t… I want to say 20s— 30s.
Hightower
20’s—30’s?
Thornton
Yeah, that’s what I was… that’s what I was told by people that were keeping count by teams that players that were able to quit running because they were running good. I heard 20’s—30’s.
Hightower
20…
Thornton
I just heard different thing; I never really…
Hightower
O.K. You never kept count?
Thornton
No, I didn’t keep count. about that.
Hightower
So that 20 or 30 is what you heard other teammates say?
Thornton
Teammates say, yeah.
Hightower
And you had said you were in the uh, you ran at the team?
Thornton
Yeah.
Hightower
How many sprints did you run before you took off your gear?
I wasn’t worried
Page 7 of 12 Statement: Kody Alan Thornton / 08-197 Date: September 09, 2008
Thornton
Uh, we probably ran about 8 and took off our helmets, then 2 more after that. So 10 altogether, we had our… after the 10th one we took off our shoulder pads.
Hightower
O.K. So you did 8 and you took off your helmet.
Thornton
And 10… then 2 more after the 8 we took off our helmet.
Hightower
2 more, yeah. You did 8?
Thornton
Took off the helmet.
Hightower
Took off the helmet and then you did 2 more.
Thornton
And then we took off the shoulder pads.
Hightower
Then the shoulder pads you said. How many you do with the shoulder pads?
Thornton
Uh, 10.
Hightower
10.
Thornton
We did 10… we did 8 with the helmets on after the… during the 8th one we took our helmets off. Then we ran 2 more after the 8, then we took our shoulder pads off then. However many we ran after the shoulder pads; I do not know.
Hightower
O.K. How long do you think the team was running those sprints?
Thornton
45 minutes maybe to an hour.
Page 8 of 12 Statement: Kody Alan Thornton / 08-197 Date: September 09, 2008
Hightower
Did you or any of your teammates ask for water breaks?
Thornton
No sir.
Hightower
Or try to get water during the running of the sprints?
Thornton
Didn’t nobody say that.
Hightower
Did you or any of your teammates become ill by running the sprints?
Thornton
No sir.
Hightower
Nobody? During the practice this year have you personally seen or heard any teammates being injured?
Thornton
I’ve seen players get hurt from—not from running but they hurt their ankles or something like that.
Hightower
O.K.
Thornton
But I haven’t seen anybody get hurt from running.
Hightower
Any other injuries besides ankles? That’s the only one you saw ankles?
Thornton
I’ve seen ankles, shoulders.
Hightower
Shoulders okay.
Thornton
Just like stingers and things like that.
Hightower
Stingers, okay.
Page 9 of 12 Statement: Kody Alan Thornton / 08-197 Date: September 09, 2008
Thornton
I’ve never seen anybody get hurt from running.
Hightower
What about anybody quitting the team?
Thornton
Yeah, there was two people that day that, I think, they quit but I think they’re back on it.
Hightower
O.K. Who were the people that quit that day?
Thornton
David Engler and Chris Bryant.
Hightower
Chris Bryant… David Engler what is his race?
Thornton
White.
Hightower
O.K. And what about Chris Bryant?
Thornton
Bryant is white.
Hightower
O.K. So they both quit that day? Do you know when they quit the team, what time of that day they quit?
Thornton
During the running.
Hightower
During the running?
Thornton
Yes.
Hightower
Was that the reason they said or do you know the reason why they quit?
Thornton
No sir. They did… they just didn’t want to run no more that would be my guess.
Hightower
O.K. Now did you see Max collapse?
Thornton
After we ran, yes. Actually, no, because we ran this last one after David Engler and Bryant
Page 10 of 12 Statement: Kody Alan Thornton / 08-197 Date: September 09, 2008
we ran one more, and everybody… only a few people entered the running on that one because everybody walked over because he said we were done but a few of the defensive guys they ran it anyways; they ran down, they ran back, and when I was walking towards the bleachers or whatever your are supposed to take a knee at. I seen him—I seen him on the ground and people running to get ice to him and water towards him. Hightower
O.K.
Thornton
And then uh, Athletic director Mr. Sweat, he was on his way over there.
Hightower
O.K. So you… when you were walking towards the uh, the tree, I guess you said to put and walking towards the tree when you got over there, then you looked around that’s when you saw him down?
Thornton
Yes sir.
Hightower
O.K. You said who ran to him?
Thornton
Uh, we had Coach Steve and a few—and a few other coaches, I think, and then Tray is… is the water—water boy.
Hightower
Tray, uh did anybody else get sick or collapse?
Thornton
Antonio Galloway.
Hightower
Antonio Galloway you say. occur before Max’s or after?
Thornton
Before Max.
When did his
Page 11 of 12 Statement: Kody Alan Thornton / 08-197 Date: September 09, 2008
Hightower
What happened with him?
Thornton
And he had a hard trouble breathing… breathing.
Hightower
Hard trouble breathing?
Thornton
Yes.
Hightower
Did he continue to practice or did he stop?
Thornton
He stopped and they carried him over to the water.
Hightower
They carried him over to the water? about anybody else?
Thornton
No sir.
Hightower
Has anyone influenced you in any way to withhold information or change the facts that actually occurred during the practice?
Thornton
No sir, he told us to tell the… tell the truth and nothing but the truth.
Hightower
O.K. Who told you to tell that?
Thornton
Coach Stinson.
Hightower
Coach Stinson
Hightower
O.K. Is this statement the truth that you have given me?
Thornton
Yes sir.
Hightower
Do you have anything else to add to this statement that I haven’t asked you?
What
Page 12 of 12 Statement: Kody Alan Thornton / 08-197 Date: September 09, 2008
Thornton
No sir.
Hightower
I’d like to end the statement. approximately 1237 hours.
END OF STATEMENT File #08-197hightower-ie
The time is
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