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Inspector No. I

\y inspector for Nawaf al Hazmi and Midhar

LAX International Airport on January 15, 2000 \U$e of name in report: The Commission would agree, if you want, that the Commission will not use your name or your personal information without prior consultation with DHS/CBP about the information we seek to use. Unless we really feel the need, we won't iise your name. However, we will not make the flat promise that we will not under any circumstances use your name. (Circumstances when would use name: probably only in making policy recommendations or factual information that requires a quote.) Telephone interview date: 05/24/04 Who else has interviewed you: DOJ OIG, FBI, DHS, CBP. No. Learned when received letter. \o you recollect the. inspection of Hazmi and/or Midhar on January 15, 2000? No.

Were you assigned no.1

Ion that date? Yes.

Length of service at INS. | 85-95% primary id I

] Always at LAX. Seaport/private aircraft

FLETC. • When did you train? How long? Went to Charleston - 500 sent there March/April 1996. No firearms/no arrest techniques. Law and Spanish for 3 months (briefing on BP at FLECT). •

Training in operational CT? Don't recall. At Journeyman 1 day overview of _ activities, Retsia, NM. Went back to Glynco 1 year later to do firearms and arrest techniques.

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Document fraud? 2-3 full days from FDL; travel stamps, look at other entries.

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Databases? Were you ever aware as an inspector that your lookout searches including a terrorist watchlist Databases -Yes. Terrorist watchlist - No.

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Role playing in primary/secondary inspections? In Charleston - done at Charleston airport for a couple of days and did processing. Journeyman, did land and airports.

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Cultural training? Ran through religions and history of cultures. Behavioral training? |_ Language training? No. 9/11 Law Enforcement Sensitive

Firearms training? Not until Glynco.

View of your job pre 9/11. • Did you consider your job prior to September 11 more one of facilitating travelers' entry into the U.S., or enforcing immigration laws? Faciltating. • Did you consider yourself as a border inspector to have a role in CT prior to September 11? Y / N No. We had no watchlists, no intel. • What types of travelers were you looking to keep out prior to September 11? Intending immigrants, bad documents. Normal primary. • Please describe the standard operating procedures you employ in primary screening, including questions asked, documents reviewed, and databases checkedj J Supervisors always said "get'em out." *

Return ticket/ flight itinerary. Did you always ask for flight itinerary for unusual travel? For a return ticket? Only for VWP, because not required.

•/ Length of stay for Bis: was there a standard length of stay given pre 9/11? Was that a port decision, or national operating policy? If you gave less than the standard time, were there professional repercussions? 1 one or length of time sought plus a few weeks. Over 6 months = supervisor's approval. •

Length of stay for B2s: was there any discretion in length of stay granted B2s pre 9/11? Over 6 months = supervisor's approval. Processing time at LAX: was there a standard processing time? | J Any professional repercussions if did not meet that processing time? Show up on performance appraisal that you are slow ]or less or you are moved, \_ ^mandated by Congress; [_ screening; dujnt differ between citizens and aliens. We had Accelerated Citizen Expedited; ASAP - hung up with VWP because low risk (port policy). Review of passport and visa. • What do you look for on the document to determine whether fraud or not? f

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Can you read Arabic stamps/cachets? No. •

Have you received any training in reading documents other than FLETC prior to 9/11? In house.

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Familiar with the Redbook, either 1992 terrorist manual or later fraud manual? No.

Treatment of Emirates and Saudis. •

How did inspectors view Saudis pre 9/11? Ever considered a threat to national security? No. Nor with my colleagues.

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At LAX, did you ever notice that any particular nationalities were treated any differently than others? No, But had to do a Saudi prince one night pre 9/11 and supervisor said "we gotta get "em outta here." 727 private aircraft; 25-30 people - a lot of Filipino servants and body guards. Body guards brought back all the passports at once and th'd hand them to me and I asked who they are. Super said just approve. Did not do 100% inspection.

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What about Saudis in particular?

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How did the treatment affect adjudication of Saudis?

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If you could not communicate with a Saudi, what would you do? On my own, no preferential treatment.

Were there any Arabic speakers in INS inspections at Newark? Did you \s have to rely on the airlines? Find interpreter - Visitor Service rep - secondary - call DOJ. »

Would the airline help you out?

Profiling. • What unusual characteristics about an alien applying for admission would \e you concern and result in a referral to secondary?

Law Enforcement Sensitive

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N. Haznii and Midhar's primary inspection, (show documents). (Had secret and TS clearances for Navy for 20 years. Hughes Aircraft 1993)

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Anything unusual about this country of origin of page. Nothing. What would you have done if you'd seen a lookout for Midhar?|

Changes at DHS. What changes do you see on the front line with the new CBP? More attention to detail; a lot of intel not current. USVISIT/NTC/Watchlisting; team training. Are you familiar with National Targeting Center? Yes - good. What effect has US VISIT had on entry and the inspection process? 100% application; adds value to inspection; hits on biometrics; exact match referred to secondary. Use and value of SEVIS. I don't. If problem, then secondary. Automatic 1-20 check would be great.

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Adequate access to DOS visa via the Consular Consolidated Database. Yes! eliminates imposters, finding imposters.

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Value of technology that can detect fraud in a document? Yes.

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Database that has real time stolen passport numbers? Yes.

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What if length of stay was tailored to the return airline ticket? Maybe.

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If you had a message for Commissioner Bonner what would it be? If processing time more than 1 hour, notify port director; otherwise let us take our time.

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I Inspector No.| | Primary inspector lorTVawaf Nawaf al Hazmi and Mi< Midhar LAX International Airport on January 15,2000 Use of name in report: The Commission would agree, if you want, that the Commission will hot use your name or your personal information without prior consultation with DHS/CBP about the information we seek to use. Unless we really feel the need, we won't use your name. However, we will not make the flat promise that we will not under any circumstances use your name. (Circumstances when would use name: probably only in making policy recommendations or factual information that requires a quote.)

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] Inspector No. (____] Primary inspector for Midhar JFK International Airport on July 4, 2001 Use' of name m report: The Commission would agree, if you want, that the Commission will ript use your name or your personal information without prior consultation with DHS/CBP about the information we seek to use. Unless we really feel the need, we won't use% your name. However, we will not make the flat promise that we will not under any circumstances use your name. (Circumstances when would use name: probably only in making pplicy recommendations or factual information that requires a quote.) Who else has interviewed you: DOT OIQ, FBI, DHS, CBP. bio. Do you recollect the inspection of Midhar on July 4, 200T? Were you assigned no.I

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FACSIMILE TRANSMITTAL CD 2110-035

Date: March 24, 2004 Name:

Janice Kephart-Roberts

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Janice - could not find a NAILS record on AI-Hazmi pre 9/11. Here is the NAILS record on AL-Mihdhar- it was entered into NAILS on 09/05/2001.

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Tuesday, March 23, 2004 3:38 PM Janice Kephart-Roberts Surrett, William R TECS Records

Hi Janice,

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for Nawaf Al-Hamzi. Here are the records. They were entered into TECS on August 24, 2001. If you need copies from the TECS system I can fax them to you. Hope this helps.. \S RECORD ID P9B50072800CIQ ENTJIY OB2401 UPDATE 030304 , NAME- L^.ST AL-MIHDHAR FIRST KHALID MID BIN MUHAMMAD EYES IMAGE ALIAS M NICKNAME ENGLSH PERSONAL- \E

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CITY MECCA i CTZN SA DOB 05161975 FOB- CNTRY SA ST MORE MORE RES EXC/SITE SSN \E AFN MORE CNTRY SA ISSDT 04061999 JEXPDT PPN B721156 \E MORE M ADDRESS- DATE \T STATE CNTRY ZIP TYPE CITY MORE PHONE \E NBR2029276950 \T CONTACT- CBP HQ V INTELLIGENCE OWNER 1 | MORE START 08242001 STOP 08242002 QRY NTFY 1 CAT \Y 2 ESCORT TO SECONDARY STATUS ST SUSPECTED TERRORIST REMARKS- DATE 082701 I SUBJECT ALLEGEDLY ASSOCIATED WITH A TERRORIST ORGANIZATIONS POSSIBLE TRAVEL TO THE U.S. IF ENCOUNTERED AT POE, NOTIFY 01 AND HQ INTEL DIVISIONAND \ PPN INFO AND TRAVEL ITINERARY IN SECONDARY RESULTS. ; ENTRY 082401 UPDATE TECS RECORD ID P9B50078100CIQ 030304 PHYSICAL IDENTIFIERS NAME- LAST ALHAZMI HISPANIC RACE S^X HAIR FIRST NAWAF MID M EYES STC HT 000 OQO WT 000 000 IMAGE ALIAS NICKNAME ENGLSH PERSONALS/M/T \N SA MORE DOB 08091976 POB- CNTRY ST CITY MORE RES EXC/SITE: SSN MORE AFN MORE MORE ISSDT EXPDT PPN 8673987 TYPE CNTRY MORE APT ADDRESS- DATE STREET TYPE CNTRY ZIP CITY STATE MORE PHONE CONTACT- CBP HQ - INTELLIGENCE

OWNER | \E NBR MORE PRIMARY 2 ESCORT TO SECONDARY , START 08242001 STOP 08242002 QRY NTFY 1 STATUS ST SUSPECTED TERRORIST \T REMARKS- DATE 100401 SUBJECT IS ALLEGEDLY ASSOCIATED WITH A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION. POSSIBLE TRAVEL TO THE U.S. IF ENCOUNTERED AT POE, NOTIFY LOCAL 01 AND HQ INTEL DIVISION. RECORD PPN INFO AND TRAVEL ITINERARY IN SECONDARY RESULTS. »V1 ov U

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_LAST: AL MIHDHAR FIRST: KHALID REC #: AL 05167500 \GNY: I DOB: 05161975 ALL COMMENTS: REF: STATE 152837 DATED SEPTEMBER 04,2001. THIS IS TO CERTIFY THAT I, THE UNDERSIGNED DEPUTY ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF STATE FOR VISA SERVICES, ACTING IN PURSUANCE OF THE AUTHORITY CONFERRED BY SECTION 221(1) OF THE IMMIGRATION AND NATIONALITY ACT (8 U.S.C. 1201(1)), AND BY DELEGATION OF AUTHORITY NO. 74 AND BY REDELEGATION OF AUTHORITY NO. 74-3-A, HEREBY REVOKE ANY AND ALL NONIMMIGRANT VISAS THAT MAY BE HELD BY KHALID BIN MUHAMMAD BIN ABDALLAH AL-MIHDHAR, DPOB: 16 MAY 1975, SAUDI ARABIA. THIS ACTION IS BASED ON THE FACT THAT SUBSEQUENT TO VISA ISSUANCE, IT WAS DETERMINED THAT THE ALIEN MAY BE INELIGIBLE FOR A VISA UNDER SECTION 212 (A)(3)(B) OF THE INS (8 U.S.C. 1182 (A) (3) (B)), SUCH THAT THE ALIEN SHOULD BE REQUIRED TO REAPPLY FOR A VISA TO ESTABLISH HIS ELIGIBILITY BEFORE AN U.S. CONSULAR OFFICER. THIS REVOCATION SHALL BECOME EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY, UNLESS THE ALIEN IS CURRENTLY IN THE U.S., IN WHICH CASE IT SHALL BECOME EFFECTIVE ON THE DATE ON WHICH THE ALIEN NEXT DEPARTS THE U.S. • PF1-FWD PF2-BAJCK LAST ENTRY

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Use of name in report:/The Commission would agr.ee, if you want, that the Commission will not use your name or your personal informaticn without prior consultation with DHS/CBP about the information we seek to use.-'Unless we really feel the need, we won't use your name". However, we will not make the flat promise that we will not under any circumstances tlse your name. (Circumstances when would use name: probably only in makmg policy recommendations oc factual information that requires a quote.)

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\ Inspector No. | Primary inspector for Midhar JFK International Airport on July 4, 2001 Use of name in report: The Commission would agree, if you want, that the Commission wil'1-.not use your name or your personal information without prior consultation with DHS/CBP about the information we seek to use. Unless we really feel the need, we won't use your name. However, we will not make the flat promise that we will not under any circumstances use your name. (Circumstances when would use name: probably only in making policy recommendations or factual information that requires a quote.) Telephone interview date: 05/24/04 Who else has interviewed you: DOJ OIG, FBI, DHS, CBP. No. Learned last week (week of May 17, 2004), Do you recollect the inspection of Midhar on July 4, 2001? No. Were you assigned no.I

|on that date? Received stamp on 2/27/01.

Length of service at INS. October 24, 1998 - primary - had done some secondary inspections.

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Databases? Were you ever aware as an inspector that your lookout searches including a watchlist Databases - not of value in secondary. Very general information. How to query names, but didn't learn about database. JFK can only look at primary screen; no hit - no referral. Didn't know checking for terrorists pre9/ll.

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Behavioral training? Body language (helped a lot).

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View of your job pre 9/11. • Did you consider your job prior to September 11 more one of facilitating travelers' entry into the U.S., or enforcing immigration laws? Facilitating. • Did you consider yourself as a border inspector to have a role in CT prior to September 11? Y / N No. • What types of travelers were you looking to keep out prior to September 11?

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Length of stay for Bis: was there a standard length of stay given pre 9/11? Was that a port decision, or national operating policy? If you gave less than the standard time, were there professional repercussions? Port policy - 3 months always; couldn't go less. If give more, 3-12 , can do without supervisor but need to write explanation.

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Length of stay for B2s: was there any discretion in length of stay granted B2s pre 9/11? Not automatic to secondary for over 6 months; if have documentation proof, = 1 year. Processing time at JFK: was there a standard processing time? f | Any professional repercussions if did not meet that processing time? L

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Can you read Arabic stamps/cachets? No.

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Familiar with the Redbook, either 1992 terrorist manual or later fraud manual? No.

*, Familiar with the Blue book produced here at JFK? No. Treatment of Emirates and Saudis. •

How did inspectors view Saudis pre 9/11? Ever considered a threat to national security? Yes. Businessman - backed by USG, lots of documentation; escorted by airlines; spend $ here; didn't come to stay or work. No overstay -j J

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What about Saudis in particular? See above.

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Were there any Arabic speakers in INS inspections at JFK? Did you always have to rely on the airlines? No. - don't trust them.

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Would the airline help you out? Yes - Saudia - have address and say whey they are here.

Profiling. • What unusual characteristics about an alien applying for admission would cause you concern and result in a referral to secondary?

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1-94. B1 - her handwriting. Nothing unusual. For Bl, allowed to use hotels and same for B2s, also usually OK. Country issuance page - no expiration date on passport; can't admit beyond expiration of passport. Doesn't foresee anything else of interest.

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Are you familiar with National Targeting Center? Yes, no direct contact.

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What effect has US VISIT had on entry and the inspection process? Everybody should be subjected to it - need WVPP (French stolen blanks). Forget about inspection in trying to learn technology.

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Use and value of SEVIS. No.

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Adequate access to DOS visa via the Consular Consolidated Database. Yes. Sometimes not in. Schengen Visas very good fraud; black lite not working.

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Value of technology that can detect fraud in a document? Yes, needed.

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Database that has real time stolen passport numbers? Yes.

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What if length of stay for B1/B2 was tailored to the return airline ticket? Yes.

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If you had a message for Commissioner Bonner what would it be? No morej | I US VISIT to include VWPP; want to be more enforcement oriented; still feel like facilitator rather than enforcer. . Clearances? No discussion of it.

Mohammad : in charge of document fraud at JFK. When we do an adverse action, know thee will be repercussions. FBI not always interested, even with exact matches.

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