September 9, 2008
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Steiger
Do I just talk?
Cohn
Yeah, I'll, I'll ask you here. The start time is 1252 hours. The date is September the 9th, 2008. This is Detective Mickey Cohn. And I'm here with Trey Steiger. It's T-R-E-Y S-TE-I-G-E-R. And what's your date of birth, Trey?
Steiger Cohn
And what's your address?
Steiger
x
Cohn
x
Steiger
Yes, sir.
Cohn
And what's your home phone number?
Steiger Cohn Steiger Cohn
Do you have a cell phone?
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Steiger Cohn Steiger
Yep.
Cohn
Okay. This statement is being tape-recorded. Does this meet with your approval?
Steiger
Yes, sir.
Cohn
I am taking this statement in reference to the events on August 20th of 2008, that occurred during the PRP football practice. Please describe the events of August the 20th, 2008, from the beginning to the end of practice in your own words.
Steiger
Uh, we did a individual session, then we did a team session, and then right before we came back from the water break, our coach got uh, mad 'cause some people were playin' around so we ran a few gassers and then people were still not do in' good and stuff, so we kept runnin', and then afterwards, we went and got a drink and got in a huddle. And that's what happened.
Cohn
Okay. Uh, when you mentioned water breaks, we'll go with water breaks. Uh, how were water breaks given during the practice? Were they given...are you allowed just to go get a drink of water whenever you want to or are they given as teams?
Steiger
Like if we're, like if it's, like I guess if it's really hot outside you can ask for a drink and he'll let us have it, but if it's like we just started practicin' stuff, we have to finish the drill, then we can go get a drink, but usually we go as a
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team over to a big water fountain they have over there. Cohn
Um-hmm.
Steiger
And that's what we do.
Cohn
Okay. So you go as a team?
Steiger
Yes, sir.
Cohn
Uh, do you go also, does "team" does that mean you go as like...
Steiger
Like we were split up in to groups, de-line, quarterbacks and stuff, and the coaches'll go as they want, but usually at the same time.
Cohn
So basically it's special lead or special groups or...or team groups, whatever you're set up in?
Steiger
Yeah.
Cohn
Yeah. On August the 20th, 2008, how many water breaks did you take?
Steiger
Uh, four.
Cohn
After the last water break, what did the practice consist of? What did you all do after the last water break?
Steiger
Uh, I went home.
Cohn
Well, not the one at the end of practice, but the one before that one...what...
Steiger
Oh, we did gassers.
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Cohn
Okay. And gassers, basically, that's a...I've talked to a bunch of you guys...basically what that is...correct me if I'm wrong...you line up on one sideline, you run to the other sideline, you run back, back to the other sideline again, and back again.
Steiger
It's just 50 yards over, 50 yards back, 50 yards over, and 50 yards back.
Cohn
That's one gasser.
Steiger
Yes, but he let us take our helmets and stuff off, after we did, I think it was five, we got to take our helmet off, then we took our shoulder pads off, and then we ran.
Cohn
Okay. Uh, why was the team runnin' the gassers?
Steiger
Because a few kids were screwin' around after he asked 'em to stop and he told us that if we didn't want to practice organized then we'll just do runs and so we kept runnin' and kids were still playin' around, so we kept runnin'.
Cohn
How many sprints did your group do?
Steiger
Uh...
Cohn
...uh, what size groups, there's...you all line up in two groups, is that right? You got skill players and...
Steiger
...Yeah, we...no, we go uh, we go by linemen and then we go as runningbacks. And that's what we do.
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Cohn
Okay. So but every, the whole team's split up in to two groups? And one takes a line and they go and the other group's behind that line and they go?
Steiger
And like we'll finish ours and then they'll go, so you basically get like a 30-second/ 40second break in between the sprints.
Cohn
Okay. What group are you in?
Steiger
I was in the linemen group.
Cohn
How many gassers did your group do, total?
Steiger
Uh, well, I got out early because I was runnin' fast, so I got, I only had to do like ten.
Cohn
Um-hmm. How many do you think the whole group did?
Steiger
Uh, pro'bly about 16, 17.
Cohn
And you got to quit early so uh, did you...how many sprints did you do before taking off your gear? Did you get to that point?
Steiger
Well, I took off my helmet but I didn't get to take off my shoulder pads 'cause I just got to quit, so I pro'bly did about ten.
Cohn
And how many did you do before taking off your helmet?
Steiger
About...o, pro'bly about eight.
Cohn
Okay. And how many, did...so you did maybe
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two more after you took off your helmet? Steiger
Yes, sir.
Cohn
How many do you think uh, after taking off the gear, the rest of the team did?
Steiger
They pro'bly ended up do in' about 17.
Cohn
17 total?
Steiger
Yeah.
Cohn
How long do you think the team...how long, and again, you got to quit early, but how long do you think the entire team did the gasser? Like how long are we talkin' here?
Steiger
Uh, we started about 5:40, I guess we stopped about 6 somethin', so I guess about 30, 40 minutes.
Cohn
Okay. How do you know the times?
Steiger
Because we have a schedule and basically, we were supposed to be doin' special teams and that starts around 5:40, before we're supposed to do conditioning at like six o'clock...and we started, when we were supposed to do special teams, 'cause people were playin' around, so they didn't take it serious, and we just ran.
Cohn
Okay. So you just, your guesstimate's not, you're guessing these times, based on the schedule.
Steiger
Yeah.
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Cohn
'Cause you were supposed to go...at that point, you were supposed to go to the team?
Steiger
Yeah.
Cohn
And then the, what you normally would have done during the normal practice you didn't get to do because you were doing gassers. Right?
Steiger
Yeah.
Cohn
Did you or any of your teammates ask for water breaks or try to get water during the running of the gassers?
Steiger
I didn't, I didn't hear anybody else ask for any.
Cohn
Didn't hear anybody ask...
Steiger
...Well, I heard people sayin' they wanted water but I didn't hear 'em askin' a coach.
Cohn
Who were they sayin' they wanted water to?
Steiger
Like they were just like, like man, I want some water. But they wasn't like sayin' it loud, they were just like mumblin' it to theirself. (sic)
Cohn
You didn't hear the coaches say anything about water?
Steiger
No.
Cohn
Did you or any of your teammates become sick during the running of the sprints?
Steiger
I know Max did. And uh, there was another one named Callaway, that had a heart murmur,
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so I don't know if that was from that..., and then uh, I don't remember any more. I know a couple of people were crampin' a little bit but they didn't really get hurt at all. Cohn
Did they stop runnin'?
Steiger
Uh, well, a couple kids had to do, they were do in' up-down's because they got in trouble for doin' that. But they was fine, they just had to do up-down's instead of runnin'.
Cohn
Okay. When did Callaway get sick? What point of the...
Steiger
Uh, it was about, it was right, about three gassers before Max got sick.
Cohn
When did Max get sick?
Steiger
Uh, it was pro'bly about two left and he was like not really passed out yet but he was like crampin' a little bit, and then at the last I guess they dragged him towards the sideline.
Cohn
During any practices this year, have you personally seen or heard of any teammates being injured or quitting the team?
Steiger
Uh, well, I've seen people with like casts on and stuff, but they didn't participate in practice, though.
Cohn
Um-hmm. But that's like normal football injuries you're gonna get from hittin' each other.
Steiger
Yeah.
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Cohn
I mean did you see anything, you know, during...did anybody get hurt during practices? Did you see anybody get hurt during practices?
Steiger
No.
Cohn
Anybody quit the team during practices?
Steiger
Uh, our gassers are, the gassers, David Engler quit...the one where Max got hurt...
Cohn
Um-hmm.
Steiger
'Cause somebody had to quit.
Cohn
Has anyone influenced you in any way to withhold information or change any of the facts that actually occurred during this practice?
Steiger
No, sir.
Cohn
And is everything that you've told me in this stateful...statement truthful?
Steiger
Yes, sir.
Cohn
And do you have anything else to add to this or anything you wanna tell me or tell us or think we should know?
Steiger
No, sir.
Cohn
Alright. This concludes our interview. The time is now 1 o'clock, or 1300 hours.
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