Shively, James Ply

September 9, 2008

Transcriber, this is Detective Keith Roberts with the Louisville Metro Police Homicide Squad. Today's date is September 9, 2008. The approximate time now is 1:05 pm. This will be a taped statement from Mr. James Shively. This statement will be in reference to Case file #08197.

Roberts

Mr. Shively, are you aware the tape-recorder is on, recording our conversation?

Shively

Yes sir.

Roberts

Does this meet with your approval?

Shively

Yes sir.

Roberts

And for the record, could you please state your name for me, and spell it?

Shively

James Shively. J-A-M-E-S S-H-I-V-E-L-Y.

Roberts

And what's your home address?

Shively

x

Roberts

Okay. Uh, I'm gonna be taking this statement in reference to the event that happened on 08/20, 08, uh, that occurred during the PRP football practice. And if you can, in your own

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words, describe the events of that day, beginning, uh, at the end, beginning uh, with the start of practice 'til the end of practice. Shively

Uh, start of practice, we got started about 3:15, 3:30. Uh, it was a normal practice. Started with our team take-offs. Our warm ups our team take-offs, and, uh, we went to individuals and one-on-ones. And we was goin' to, to the base period which is the offense verses defense. We went to go get our water first. Went to go get water first, and then most of the… It was a hot day, kind of humid. Humid, more humid than usual. And, uh, a lot of guys was walkin' back, which is a real violation, uh, of our rules. Can't walk. Uh, a lot of guys was walkin', and the coach got real upset. So they told us to line up and… Which he said since we was gonna walk, we was gonna run. Which we run, we ran gassers, which is… You know what a gassers is?

Roberts

Yeah. Uh-huh.

Shively

And we ran gassers. We ran about, I'd say about three, and he asked us… He told us to take our helmets off. Then we ran about, I'd say about two, or two or three more, and we took our shoulder pads off. Then we ran about five. Then, you know, that was it.

Roberts

Okay. Is, is this the head coach that told you to run?

Shively

Yeah. The head coach.

Roberts

And what's his name?

Shively

Jayson Stenson.

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Roberts

Okay. And as far as the water breaks, uh, do you all take 'em individually, or do you take 'em as a team?

Shively

Uh, we took 'em with our groups, 'cause we be broke up into our positions.

Roberts

Okay. And on that day, how many water breaks do you remember you, particularly, having?

Shively

Uh, we had more than usual 'cause it was pretty hot. So we had a lot of 'em.

Roberts

How many did you have?

Shively

I had about three or four. Between those…

Roberts

Okay. And after the last water break, if you can remember, what, what did practice consist of?

Shively

After the last one, that's when we started runnin' the gassers.

Roberts

Okay. And, and, and the reason you all were running was because, you said, they broke some team rules, walkin'?

Shively

Walkin'. They weren't runnin'.

Roberts

Was it anybody particular, or just…

Shively

Oh, it was a whole bunch of people.

Roberts

Okay. So basically, uh, most of the team, half the team?

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Shively

Yeah. Most of the team.

Roberts

And if you can remember, how many sprints did, did your group run?

Shively

Uh, all together?

Roberts

Uh-huh.

Shively

Altogether, about, it'd be about 15 altogether.

Roberts

Okay. And what group were you in?

Shively

In the, uh, be running the fat bodies which is the…

Roberts

Yeah.

Shively

…which is the linemen and stuff. And then the…

Roberts

Smaller…

Shively

Yeah. The smaller…

Roberts

What were you in? The heavy?

Shively

In the fat bodies.

Roberts

Okay. I won't put that down. Alright. I, uh, and I know you mentioned this once before, but how many, how many sprints did you run before you took any hel', any gear off at all?

Shively

About three or four. I don't remember exactly.

Roberts

And after you took that, after you took the helmet off, you ran a couple…

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Shively

Yeah.

Roberts

…then you took the shoulder pads…

Shively

Yeah. Yeah. Then took the shoulder pads off.

Roberts

And you ran another couple?

Shively

Yeah. (Inaudible).

Roberts

Uh, okay. And you just remember just a couple? Or like more than…

Shively

Uh, about four or five.

Roberts

So a total with everything off, how many, how many sprints do you think you ran?

Shively

With everything off, probably about five.

Roberts

Okay. And how long do you think you all were runnin' the sprints?

Shively

About, probably no more than 30 minutes.

Roberts

Okay. And did any of your teammates ask for water breaks, uh, during the times you all were running the sprints?

Shively

Not that I…

Roberts

And do you remember any of your teammates getting' ill, or getting' sick during the time the time they was runnin'?

Shively

It was a couple guys… He was tellin' me he's was getting' them to sit down when they (inaudible).

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Roberts

You don't know who they were?

Shively

Uh, Antonio Calloway. Yeah. He told him to sit down. And, uh, Max… Yeah, Max.

Roberts

And did, did Calloway, did he get sick before he took his gear off or after?

Shively

After.

Roberts

And when, when once his gear is off, was he through running?...

Shively

Yeah.

Roberts

…Was he through running after the gear is off?

Shively

Uh-huh.

Roberts

Okay. And was Max before he took his gear off or after?

Shively

After.

Roberts

Anybody else…

Shively

Nah…

Roberts

…that you remember seein'.

Shively

I think that was it.

Roberts

Uh, during any practices this year, have you personally seen or heard of any teammates being injured or quitting the team?

Shively

Yeah. WE had a lot of people quit. Football's not for everybody.

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Roberts

Okay. What were these people (inaudible)? I mean, did they ever quit and come back, or just, just didn't like practice and "I'm tired of it. I can't (inaudible)?"

Shively

Yeah.

Roberts

Like you said, it ain't for everybody.

Shively

Yeah. It's some people, they just… It's not… They can't take the pressure of football and the dedication that it takes.

Roberts

About how many people you think quit?

Shively

Uh, during the winter condition, I'd say we had about 150 kids,. Now, we're about down to about 95.

Roberts

Wow! Uh, were these all upperclassmen, lower…

Shively

Nah. Nah. They was the younger guys more that can't take it.

Roberts

Okay. Anybody, uh, injured? Major injuries or…

Shively

No one got no major injuries right now. Just minor stuff.

Roberts

Uh, hamstrings…

Shively

Yeah.

Roberts

…pulled muscles, and stuff like that? Uh, has anyone influenced you in any way to withhold information or change any of the facts that actually occurred during the practice?

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Shively

No sir.

Roberts

Uh, is this statement truthful?

Shively

Yes sir.

Roberts

Okay. Uh, is there anything else you wanta add that we didn't go over or you think we need to know about? Anything at all?

Shively

Just Coach Stenson's a great guy. He really didn't mean to hurt nobody.

Roberts

Okay. Uh, okay. And with that, we will now, uh, end the statement. It is approximately 1:13 pm. Hours.

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