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Thomas H. Kean CHAIR

Lee H. Hamilton

March 30, 2004

VICE CHAIR

Richard Ben-Veniste Fred F. Fielding Jamie S. Gorelick Slade Gorton

The Honorable Alberto R. Gonzales Counsel to the President The White House Washington, DC 20500 Dear Judge Gonzales:

Bob Kerrey John F. Lehman Timothy J. Roemer James R. Thompson

Philip D. Zelikow EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR

On behalf of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, we are writing in response to your letter of March 30. The Commission welcomes and appreciates the President's decisions, set forth in your letter, to accept our requests (a) for public testimony, under oath, by the National Security Advisor, Dr. Condoleezza Rice; and (b) for a private meeting between all ten Commissioners and the President and Vice President. The Commission accepts the conditions set forth in your letter. We will not seek public testimony from White House officials other than Dr. Rice, although we will continue with plans for private meetings with a number of such officials. We also have long shared the views expressed in your letter about the unique status and mission of the Commission. While by statute the Commission is "established in the legislative branch," the Commission is not a legislative body. Our Chairman is appointed by the President, and we are required to submit our report to the President as well as the Congress. In short, the Commission is a hybrid body with a limited life and a unique investigative and historical mission. Accordingly, Dr. Rice's public testimony before the Commission will not be cited by us as a precedent, and it should not be considered a precedent for testimony by national security advisors or other White House officials before the Congress or other entities in the legislative branch.

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The Honorable Alberto R. Gonazales March 30, 2004 Page 2 We look forward to hearing from Dr. Rice in public at a forthcoming Commission hearing and to a meeting between the Commissioners and the President and Vice President. We will be in touch with you to establish mutually agreeable dates for Dr. Rice's testimony and the meeting with the President and Vice President. We appreciate your cooperation in this matter, and we will continue to seek to work constructively with you and your staff in the remaining months of the Commission's life. With best regards,

Thomas H. Kean Chair

Lee H. Hamilton Vice Chair

THE WHITE HOUSE WASHINGTON

March 30, 2004 Thomas H. Kean, Chairman Lee H. Hamilton, Vice Chairman National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States 2100 K St. N.W. Washington, D.C. 20037 Dear Chairman Kean and Vice Chairman Hamilton: As we discussed last night, the President is prepared, subject to the conditions set forth below, to agree to the request of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States for public testimony, under oath, by the Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs, Dr. Condoleezza Rice. The President has consistently stated a policy of strong support for the Commission and instructed the Executive Branch to provide unprecedented and extraordinary access to the Commission. To my knowledge, the Executive Branch has provided access to documents or information in response to each of the requests issued by the Commission to date, including many highly classified and extremely sensitive documents that have seldom, if ever, been made available outside the Executive Branch. As an additional accommodation, the Executive Office of the President has made available more than 20 EOP officials, including the National Security Advisor, for private meetings with the Commission. As you know, based on principles underlying the Constitutional separation of powers, Presidents of both parties have long taken the position that White House advisors and staff are not subject to the jurisdiction of legislative bodies and do not provide testimony - even on a voluntary basis - on policy matters discussed within the White House or advice given to the President. Indeed, I am not aware of any instance of a sitting National Security Advisor testifying in public to a legislative body (such as the Commission) concerning policy matters. We continue to believe, as I advised you by letter dated March 25,2004, that the principles underlying the Constitutional separation of powers counsel strongly against such public testimony, and that Dr. Rice's testimony before the Commission can occur only with recognition that the events of September 11,2001 present the most extraordinary and unique circumstances, and with conditions and assurances designed to limit harm to the ability of future Presidents to receive candid advice. Nevertheless, the President recognizes the truly unique and extraordinary circumstances underlying the Commission's responsibility to prepare a detailed report on the facts and circumstances of the horrific attacks on September 11, 2001. Furthermore, we have now received assurances from the Speaker of the House and the Majority Leader of the Senate that, in their view, Dr. Rice's public testimony in connection with the extraordinary events of September 11, 2001 does not set, and should not be cited as, a precedent for future requests for a National Security Advisor or any other White House official to testify before a legislative body. In light

of the unique nature of the Commission and these additional assurances, the President has determined that, although he retains the legal authority to decline to make Dr. Rice available to testify in public, he will agree, as a matter of comity and subject to the conditions set forth below, to the Commission's request for Dr. Rice to testify publicly regarding matters within the Commission's statutory mandate. The necessary conditions are as follows. First, the Commission must agree in writing that Dr. Rice's testimony before the Commission does not set any precedent for future Commission requests, or requests in any other context, for testimony by a National Security Advisor or any other White House official. Second, the Commission must agree in writing that it will not request additional public testimony from any White House official, including Dr. Rice. The National Security Advisor is uniquely situated to provide the Commission with information necessary to fulfill its statutory mandate. Indeed, it is for this reason that Dr. Rice privately met with the Commission for more than four hours on February 7, fully answered every question posed to her, and offered additional private meetings as necessary. Despite the fact that the Commission will therefore have access to all information of which Dr. Rice is aware, the Commission has nevertheless urged that public confidence in the work of the Commission would be enhanced by Dr. Rice appearing publicly before the Commission. Other White House officials with information relevant to the Commission's inquiry do not come within the scope of the Commission's rationale for seeking public testimony from Dr. Rice. These officials will continue to provide the Commission with information through private meetings, briefings, and documents, consistent with our previous practice. I greatly appreciate the strong support you expressed to me last night for an agreement to the conditions on which we are proposing this extraordinary accommodation and your commitment to strongly advocate for the full support of the Commission. If the Commission accepts the terms of this agreement, I hope that we can schedule a time as soon as possible for such a public appearance by Dr. Rice. I want to reiterate once again, however, that Dr. Rice would be made available to the Commission with due regard for the Constitutional separation of powers and reserving all legal authorities, privileges, and objections that may apply, including with respect to other governmental entities or private parties. I would also like to take this occasion to offer an accommodation on another issue on which we have not yet reached an agreement - Commission access to the President and Vice President. I am authorized to advise you that the President and Vice President have agreed to one joint private session with all 10 Commissioners, with one Commission staff member present to take notes of the session. I look forward to continuing to work with the Commission to help it obtain the information it needs to fulfill its statutory mandate.

berto R. Gonz Counsel to the President