Pravas Nisrgakade Tarun Samvad 11 July 05

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[nagamVyZ o_iUmè`m [mbm[mMm{ù`mMm IV åhUyZ dmna hmo D $ eH$Vmo . Am[ë`m KamVyZ dmhV OmUmè`m gm§ S >[mÊ`mÀ`m [wZdm©[amMm odMma H$é bmJbm{ AmoU _bm C[bãY d{i [U H$_r [Sy> bmJbm. O_m hm{Umam H$mS>rH$Mam, [mbm[mMm{im IS²S>çmV Jm{ùm H$é bmJbm{, [nagamVyZ o_iUma{ Jm`r-åherM{ e{U H$mbm H$éZ H$mS>r H$Mè`mda Q>mHy$ bmJbm{ AmoU Ë`mVyZ _bm dfm©bm 40 -50 oH$bm{ H§$[m{ñQ> IV o_iV{. V{ [wÝhm [nagamV [gadyZ X{Vm{. Kar [mÊ`mMr JaO hmV[§[mÛma{ ^mJodbr OmV{. `m_wi{ \$º$ JaO{[waV{M [mUr dm[aVm{. PmS>m§Zm [mUr Ag§ ZìhVM§ Ë`mMr éIéI _Zmbm hm{Vr. PmS>m§Zm [mUr C[bãY ìhmd{ åhUyZ _r [yd© - [píM_ CVma Agb{ë`m ßbm°Q>da [yd}bm 10 x 2 x 2 \y$Q>Mm [gaQ >IÈ>m H{$bm d [píM_{bm 3 x 3 x 3 \y$Q>Mm IÈ>m H{$bm AmoU AmíM`© dmQ>md{, oH$VrVar d{im dmhV OmUma{, dm`m OmUma{ [mUr ßbm°Q>_Yrb IS²>S>çmV gmMb{ Omdy bmJb{.

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amZ Om§^yimM{ PmS> Amh{. Ë`mbm Xm{ZXm ]ha `{dyZ J{bm. am{OM{ gamgar AYm© oH$bm{ [H$S>b{ Var Vrg oXdgm§M{ 15 oH$bm{ d Xm{Z _ohÝ`m§M{ 60 oH$bm{ Om§^yi o_imb{. J„rVë`m gmè`m ]mbJm{[mim§Zr, _m{R> çm§Zr, ZmVbJm§Zr Imëb{. [yd©-[píM_ a{f{V Am§]Q> qMM, {dbm`Vr qMM, M§XZ, gw]m^wi `m§Mr PmS>§ Amh{V. `m[¡H$s {dbm`Vr qMM{bm ^a[ya qMMm Amë`m Amho. Ë`mMr [U Iy[ Md K{Vbr. Ë`m_wi{ [mdgmim gm{Sy>Z BVa F$Vw§_Ü`{ H$m{H$sim AmR>dS>çmVyZ EH$Xm Var gH$mir `{dy bmJbr. oM_Ê`m, H$mdi{ Va Z{h_rM{M gm{]Vr Pmb{V. _mJrb IS²>S>çmOdi Agb{br ]m^yi Om{_mZ{ dmT>br. oVZ{ ^a[ya bmH$S> oXbr. Hw§$[UmgmR>r Va bmH$S>mM§ m C[`m{J PmbmM. [a§Vw EdT>çmM [nagamV Agb{ë`m PmS>m§_wi{ Am_À`m Hw$Qw>§]mM{ [mdgmim gm{Sy>Z ]mH$s AmR>hr _ohZ{ am{O gH$miM{ [mM OUm§M{ [mUr Vm[V{. oedm` o_iUmè`m H$m{iem[mgyZ _mJrb dfu gmYmaUV• AmaVr g§ñW{À`m gaB© Hw$H$ada am{O EH$d{iMm S>mi^mVmMm ñd`§[mH$ hm{D$ bmJbm. Ë`m_wi{ gamgar Xm{Z _ohÝ`mMm J°g dmModVm Ambm. oedm` AmR> _ohZ{ EH$m$ _mUgmgmR>r ]m^yirÀ`m e|Jm[mgyZM{ _§OZ o_iy bmJb{.

`m H$Mè`mÀ`m oT>Jmè`mda _bm _mJrb dfu oZgJm©gmR>r OwZm [U _mÂ`mgmR>>r Zdm M_ËH$ma ]Km`bm o_imbm. EH$Xm gH$mir CRy>Z H$Mè`mÀ`m oT>Jmè`mOdi ]KVm{ Va gH$miÀ`m CÝhmV H$mù`m VwH$VwH$sV d M_H$Xma hOmam{ _w§½`m hm{Ë`m. _r Ë`m§À`mH$S>{ ]KVM amohbm{. EdT>çm _w§½`m Amë`m Hw$Ry>Z? Vg{M [nagamVrb gaS>{ Á`m§Zm Z{h_r oH$Q>H$, \w$b[mIam§Zm ImVm§Zm ]oKVb{ Amh{. Vo gaS>{ Omñd§XrMr \w$b{ ImV hm{Vr. `mM dfu Jm{MS>r gÑí` oH$Q>H$m§Mm g_yh PmS>m§À`m \$m§Xrda AmT>iyZ Ambm. g_whmZ{ dmdaUmè`m Aù`m AmT>iyZ Amë`m. `m H$m_mVyZ _bm A{YH$ àoaUm {_iV Jobr . 10x10 \y$Q>À`m ßbm°Q>_Ü`{ e{VmgmR>r g|oÐ` dm Z¡goJ©H$ dmVmdaU oZ_m©U H$aÊ`mgmR>r oH$Vr d{i Úmdm bmJVm{ `mMr oH§$_V H$imbr. `mdfu [wÝhm Q>_mQ>{, o_aÀ`m, P|Sw>Mr \w$b{, amZ Om§^yi, Am§]Q >qMM d odbm`Vr qMM Im`bm o_iUma Va ]m^yirMr bmH$S>{ B§YZmMr o_iUma Amh{. `m dfu [nagamV Xm{Z ]Xm_mMr PmSo> bmdbr Amh{V d _mJÀ`m Xmar ]m^yirMr AZ{H$ am{[{ CJdbr Amh{V. _mJrb ßbm°Q> Am_Mm Zmhr [U Om{[`ªV Ë`mbm H$m{Ur _mbH$$ Zmhr Vm{[`ªV d¥jq^VrMm [gmam dmT>dUma Amh{. Jm§Sy>i IVmMm KaJwVr àH$ë[ gwé H$aUma Amh{.

_mJrb dfu gH$mir o_iUmam _m{H$im d{i [nagamVrb H$mS>r H$Mam Jm{im H$aU{, ^mOr[mbm, H{$irÀ`m gmbrM{ ]marH$ VwH$S>{, ßbm°Q>_Y{ [S>Umam KZ H$Mam, ßb°pñQ>H$ Jm{im H$aÊ`mV OmD$ bmJbm. AmoU `m gmè`mVyZ `m dfu ßbm°Q>_Ü`{ Jm§S>wim§Mr g§»`m dmT>b{br oXgbr. PmS>m§Mr dmT> ObX JVrZ{ hm{Vm§Zm oXgbr. `mdfu 60 V{ 70 oH$bm{ PmS>[më`mM{ H§$[m{ñQ> IV o_imb{. d{i{A^mdr IVmbm MmiU _maVm Ambr Zmhr. IVmMm IÈ>m \$º$ da Imbr H{$bm. [mD$g Ambm AmoU P|Sy>Mr am{[{ _m{R>çm à_mUmV CJdbr, [[B©- ogVm\$imMr am{[>{ [U Ambr. Q>_mQ>,{ o_aMrMr am{[{ o_imbr. Xwgè`m [mdgmZ§Va gmar am{[{ [ÕVera OmJ{da bmdbr. AmO Vr am{[§ VmH$XdmZ d ]{\$mZ dmT>bb { r Amh{.

`mV _bm gdm©V OmñV g_mYmZ h{ dmQ>V{ H$s, _mÂ`m Hw$Qw>§]mgmR>r, Hw$Qw>§]m[mgyZM _r B§YZ H$_mdVm{. Mdr[waV, AmZ§Xm[waV qMM, Om§^ir ImVm{. _bm AmUIr g_mYmZ `mM dmQ>V§ H$s, Am[U Aë[^yYmaH$ Amhm{V. [mQ>r K_{b, oQ>H$md, \$mdS>m, d{iIwam B. gmYZ hmVmer Amh{. _bm odídmg dmQ>Vm{. hmM [ag]mJ{Mm AZw^d CÚmÀ`m g|oÐ` e{VrMm J¥h[mR>M Amh{. àË`{H$ e{VH$è`mMr e{Vr h{ Og Ë`m§M H¥$fr odÚm[rR> Amh{ VgM§ _mPm [naga hr H¥$frAä`mgmMr ]mbdmS>r Amh{ Ag dmQy> bmJb`.

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oZ`m{OZ[ÕVrZ{ gm§S>[mÊ`mMm dm[a gwê$ Ho$bm Amho. PQ>[Q> CË[mXZ X{Uma{ e{dJm, gmJmMr PmS>§ `mMr bmJdS> H$éZ oZ`m{OZ[yd©H$ gwédmV Pmbr Amh{. _bm `m Ymd[irÀ`m OJÊ`mMm H§$Q>mim `{D$ bmJbm`. oñWa, emídV, oZgJm©À`m Odi OmUma§, ñdV•M _wº$ OrdZ OJUma§, ñdV•[U Jwbm_oJarV Z OJVm BVam§Zmhr O]aXñVrM Am`wî` Z OJdUma OrdZ OJmdg§ dmQ>V§. Ë`mgmR>r h{ EH$ _mÜ`_ Amh{. darb AZw^dmVyZ H$mhr Jm{ï>r R>iH$[U{ oeH$bm{.   



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hr oeH$Ê`mMr àoH«$`m oZa§Va MmbyM ahmUma. Vwåhr Vw_À`m H¥$fr odÚm[rR>mV Zì`mZ{ H$m` oeH$Vmh{V h{ Oéa H$idm. ***

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