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POSITION 14B
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Transcribed by Heather Farrar
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from the audio tape
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provided to Alderson Reporting
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P R O C E E D I N G S
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
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of the September 11 tapes.
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1, part 1.
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This is a continuation
This is position 14B tape
Start time, 12:15 Zulu. MALE SPEAKER 1:
American 11, American 11,
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is a 757 departed Boston, going to LAX.
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know where the aircraft is going.
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going to LAX, so it's going westbound.
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frequency, then we lost its transponder, and now the
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It's supposedly We lost its
aircraft is just west of Albany heading eastbound.
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We don't
MALE SPEAKER 2:
Oh my goodness.
do we have the data box on this?
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MALE SPEAKER 1:
Yeah.
Who's got the -We think there's a
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primary target presently and it's heading
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southwestbound.
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MALE SPEAKER 2:
Okay.
Do we --
Understand.
I'll
advise the area.
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MALE SPEAKER 1:
Last altitude observed
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MALE SPEAKER 2:
29.
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MALE SPEAKER 1:
Heading southwestbound,
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was 290. Southbound?
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like towards Hancock, right around there.
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southwest of Albany by 15 miles.
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MALE SPEAKER 3:
He's
And we have no idea where
he's going?
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MALE SPEAKER 1
No idea, sir.
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MALE SPEAKER 3
All right.
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MALE SPEAKER 2
You can tag him on the
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CSC (inaudible).
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MALE SPEAKER 3
(Inaudible) primary only?
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MALE SPEAKER 1
Primary only.
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MALE SPEAKER 3
Okay.
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MALE SPEAKER 1
Okay.
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MALE SPEAKER 2
Thank you.
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Thank you. Hold on one
second, boss. MALE SPEAKER 4:
Boston center claims that
they lost radio communication with the aircraft.
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BACKGROUND MALE:
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MALE SPEAKER 4:
And a transponder. And a transponder.
And
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there's also -- they're tracking a primary target at
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this point.
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and it appears to have turned southbound westbound,
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and also there was some mention of some sort of a
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threat being made --
It was last known at flight level 290,
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MALE SPEAKER 5:
He made?
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MALE SPEAKER 4:
Some threat to the
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cockpit or a threat -MALE SPEAKER 5:
Oh, shit.
Let me get the
manager's approval. MALE SPEAKER 4:
-- in the cockpit.
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Boston1s uncertain exactly what was said.
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they're going to try to pull the tapes as quick as
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they can.
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MALE SPEAKER 5:
MALE SPEAKER 4 : |
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MALE SPEAKER 5:
All right.'
MALE SPEAKER 6:
Command center.
MALE SPEAKER 1:
Hi, Tony.
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here -- I mean, Boston here.
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TRACON?
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Okay.
f*? & L fe
I'll
This is
Tony.
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call you back.
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Hey, Tom, where can I
reach you back, what number at?
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I guess
MALE SPEAKER 6:
Command center
Could I get New York
You bet.
So nothing with
the cockpit?
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MALE SPEAKER 1:
Yes, for the American 11.
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MALE SPEAKER 6:
Say it again?
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MALE SPEAKER 1:
Reference American 11.
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MALE SPEAKER 6:
All right.
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any contact with them yet?
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MALE SPEAKER 1:
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Nope.
No contact.
It
is a confirmed hijack though.
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MALE SPEAKER 7: TRACON.
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MALE SPEAKER 1:
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Have you had
Center, good morning.
Hey TRACON, hi.
Boston
American 11, 757, possible
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hijack.
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MALE SPEAKER 7:
Okay.
American 11, 75,
and where's he landing?
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MALE SPEAKER 1:
Right now we don't have
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any idea, but he was northwest of Albany and now he's
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down by Sparta, losing speed very rapidly.
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believe the primary only and we believe he's on a
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descent.
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That's why he's -- he's going down. MALE SPEAKER 7:
I'm just trying to -- and
he's around the Sparta area now, you say?
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We
MALE SPEAKER 1: Yeah, he's around the Sparta area right now.
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MALE SPEAKER 7:
Wow, I just don't see
MALE SPEAKER 1:
He has the primary target
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MALE SPEAKER 7:
Yeah, I'm looking pretty
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hard for any kind of primary target.
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be able to see it and I don't see --
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anything.
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right now.
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MALE SPEAKER 6:
We still should
I do have something on
''LSD
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the eSCLif that gives you an idea of where he's
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heading.
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MALE SPEAKER 7:
Yeah.
I'm just looking
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at the real raw radar here and I just don't see -- I
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just don't see anything out there.
I'll let the area
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know to start looking for it.
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MALE SPEAKER 1:
But you don't have any
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idea what altitude -- last altitude we had was below
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290, but his speed has diminished quite a bit.
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MALE SPEAKER 7:
Okay.
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MALE SPEAKER 1:
So we believe he might be
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in a descent.
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MALE SPEAKER 7:
Okay.
All righty.
I'll
pass it along to the sector.
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MALE SPEAKER 1:
All right.
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MALE SPEAKER 7:
Understand.
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MALE SPEAKER 6:
Hey, Boston?
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MALE SPEAKER 1:
Yes.
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MALE SPEAKER 6:
You said you confirmed
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Just be
careful.
the hijack.
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How did you -MALE SPEAKER 1:
Well, the -- what has
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happened -- the pilot has kept the mike keyed while
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the person's in the -- in the cockpit, stuff like
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that.
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MALE SPEAKER 6:
Okay.
And what are you
MALE SPEAKER 1:
The threat, you know -- I
hearing?
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don't really know what they're hearing, but that the
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sup come down and confirmed that it is a hijack.
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MALE SPEAKER 6:
Okay.
If you learn
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anything else, please give us a call so we can help
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you out as best we can.
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this guy heading there?
Does New York know about
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MALE SPEAKER 1:
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knows, maybe Washington will be next.
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to scramble for fighters, prepare them.
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New York knows, Cleveland
MALE SPEAKER 6:
Okay.
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MALE SPEAKER 1:
Yes.
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MALE SPEAKER 6:
Okay.
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We are going
Coming out of
Otis?
I'll take care of
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the coordination with Washington center.
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advise them of what's going on.
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MALE SPEAKER 1:
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FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
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MALE SPEAKER 6:
I will
Thank you. Washington. Hi, Washington.
Tony
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here in the east at the command center.
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advisory for you, give you a heads up, there's an
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American 11, it is a Boston to LAX flight.
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FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
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MALE SPEAKER 6:
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Okay. It is a possible hijacked
airline.
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FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
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MALE SPEAKER 6:
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I have an
Possible hijack.
Currently -- well, they
last -- when they lost radar with them, and they're
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trying to make primary target, he's northwest of New
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York City, and we're -- the fact that he could be
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headed towards Kennedy or one of New York's airports
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is still at the flight levels that we believe.
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got primary only (inaudible) . FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
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It's primary only right
now. MALE SPEAKER 6:
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We've
vJ£
But * just wanted to give
you a heads up if he continues on that southbound
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track, he'll be heading towards your area, so right
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now (inaudible) . . FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:: 15 14
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MALE SPEAKER 8:
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
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MALE SPEAKER 8:
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
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g
- - MALE SPEAKER 8:
FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
Hey, Wanda.
It's Marty.
Good.
How are you?
Good. Long time, no see. Yeah.
Hey, where's the
He's in a class.
What
do you need?
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Command Comm center, Wanda.
•^(inaudible J right now?
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I'll tell
How are you?
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All right.
MALE SPEAKER 8:
right now?
W h o ' s the
(/inaudibe)
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
we have the standard ra i r nf^cps^.
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He's in a meeting, but
MALE SPEAKER 8:
what do you need?
Okay.
Do you know about
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telcom?
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MALE SPEAKER 8:
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
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FEMALE SPEAK
No.
There's a telcom?
There's -- yeah, a
conference call about it right now.
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MALE SPEAKER 8:
Okay.
Would somebody
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bring New York Center up?
We're not in on it.
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watching airplanes in our airspace. —"""
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
*~\y
Yeah, there
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(inaudible).
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let me see.
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I'll bring you in on here, okay?
I think Boston's on there.
Hold on,
Hey, we're going to tap this line, so
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MALE SPEAKER 8:
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
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We're
--SSS&. SPEAKER 9:
Thank you. Command center, Wanda.
Wanda, this is Jim
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McDonald, American Airlines flight dispatch.
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doing?
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
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MALE SPEAKER 9:
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
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MALE SPEAKER 9:
How you
Okay. Hey -Are you (inaudible)?
No, not yet, not right
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now.
Listen, is there any way you guys can change
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the flight number on the ASD?
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going out to CNN because they have a drop on it.
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We don't want this
FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Okay. supervisor.
Let me get the
Hold on.
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MALE SPEAKER 9:
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
Hello?
FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
Washington.
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Okay.
Thank you. You still
there?
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MALE SPEAKER 6:
Washington, this is Tony
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in the east.
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actually now crashed into the World Trade Center.
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you want to find CNN and take a look at that and find
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out, but we now believe it is no longer in the air.
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We believe that the aircraft has
FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
If
All right,
thanks Tony.
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MALE SPEAKER 6:
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MALE SPEAKER 10:
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MALE SPEAKER 6:
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Oh my God.
^hl^/
Bye. Cleveland. Cleveland, this is Tony
in the east, reference American 11.
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MALE SPEAKER 10:
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MALE SPEAKER 6:
c~ -77
US'l / '/,
Yeah. We believe the aircraft
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has crashed into the World Trade Center in New York.
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If you want to watch CNN, you can get the details
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there.
It was just on there live.
We do not believe
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it is in the air anymore.
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MALE SPEAKER 10:
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Okay.
Thank you very much.
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Oh my goodness.
MALE SPEAKER 6: Tony.
Command center east,
Command center. MALE SPEAKER 7:
TRACON traffic
management, Carl. FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
Hey, Wanda.
Did we
just do (inaudible)? MALE SPEAKER 7:
At this point right I
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think they're just trying to ascertain what's really
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going on before I really -- I don't even know how to
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answer that question right now, Wanda.
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now they're just trying to figure out what actually
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occurred, what is going on, and what needs to be
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done, so it's going to be a few minutes before we
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kind of get that stuff out.
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
Okay.
So you're not
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holding in the area (inaudible)?
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got, the airplane is no longer intact?
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MALE SPEAKER 7:
As far as what you
Not at this point it
doesn't appear to be the case, no.
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
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MALE SPEAKER 7:
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I think right
Okay?
Airplane (inaudible)?
Not at this point it
doesn't appear to the be the case, no.
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
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MALE SPEAKER 7:
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
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MALE SPEAKER 7:
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
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MALE SPEAKER 6:
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Okay. Okay. All right. Thanks. Command center, Wanda. Command center east,
Tony. MALE SPEAKER 11:
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Boston.
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center.
I need New York.
Wanda, this is Toby in I've been shut off by the
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
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MALE SPEAKER 11:
(Inaudible)? No.
The overflight,
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traffic into New York center, they're not taking.
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No, the overflight.
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
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MALE SPEAKER 11:
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
Okay.
I don't know if
you're going to get an answer or not. MALE SPEAKER 11:
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
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All traffic entering New
York center, they're not taking any hand-offs.
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Flight?
All right, well just -If there's anything
that we can do -MALE SPEAKER 11:
Just for your records,
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I'm totally going to stop going southbound into New
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York Center.
(Inaudible) Boston here.
I'm
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ground-stopped going into (inaudible).
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
Hey, New York?
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need to ground-stop (inaudible)?
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ground-stop anything going to and from New York?
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Okay.
All right.
MALE SPEAKER 11:
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
Okay. Okay.
There's Boston. All right.
Here
we go.
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MALE SPEAKER 11:
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
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MALE SPEAKER 11:
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
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So we should
Here we go.
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Okay.
Do we
up.
Okay.
There's Boston.
Command center. Boston. Boston, you can move
You're already (inaudible).
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MALE SPEAKER 11:
Okay.
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BACKGROUND MALE:
Hey, we're watching the
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news, man.
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It's the craziest thing I've ever seen. FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
Yeah, we'll ground-stop
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everything going to New York, through New York,
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ground-stop anything that's got to go through New
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York center.
Upgrade to 1700.
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MALE SPEAKER 11:
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
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A possible accident,
multiple accidents.
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Raise it?
MALE SPEAKER 6:
Command center east,
Tony.
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on everything.
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the World Trade Center.
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There is a second plane that just hit
MALE SPEAKER 6:
Everything in New York.
Stop all departures out of the center please.
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We've put a ground-stop
FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
New York center, New
York TRACON, ground-stop.
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MALE SPEAKER 12:
Memphis got it.
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MALE SPEAKER 13:
Houston got it.
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FEMALE SPEAKER 3:
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Thank you.
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MALE SPEAKER 6:
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Atlanta got it.
I'm sorry.
What did you
say, Wanda? FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
Ground-stop anything
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from New York, New York center, New York TRACON,
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ground-stop.
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MALE SPEAKER 6:
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
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MALE SPEAKER 6:
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
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And the reason? (Inaudible). (Inaudible), right? You need to write a
(inaudible).
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MALE SPEAKER 6:
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
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MALE SPEAKER 6:
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MALE SPEAKER 14:
Okay. Okay? Thanks. New York center.
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York center.
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
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Command center, Wanda. Hey, Wanda, just so
you know, we stopped all departures.
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
I know.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Okay.
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MALE SPEAKER 7:
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of ours.
Ronny?
Everything's
stopped at the airport?
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
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MALE SPEAKER 7:
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We stopped all
three centers up, Wanda.
Command center, Wanda. I need to three up --
This is Joe at TRACON.
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MALE SPEAKER 14:
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MALE SPEAKER 7:
New York center. Yeah, New York, I need
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you to stop all arrival traffic into New York
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metropolitan area.
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MALE SPEAKER 14:
Okay.
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MALE SPEAKER 11:
Boston center.
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MALE SPEAKER 7:
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that.
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Boston, I need you to
stop all traffic into the New York TRACON area.
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Stand by with
MALE SPEAKER 11:
Yeah.
We stopped
everything. FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
We've already done
that, TRACON.
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
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MALE SPEAKER 7:
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
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Thank you.
We did everybody. Thank you. Okay. Wanda, New York center's
at ATC 0.
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
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MALE SPEAKER 14:
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Okay.
Say again? ATC 0 for New York
center.
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
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MALE SPEAKER 11:
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
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with New York.
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(inaudible) --
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All right. Boston center. Hey Boston, (inaudible)
You need to -- this airport
MALE SPEAKER 11:
Right now, I don't have
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-- severe weather (inaudible) picking up and we're
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just rebooting over Syracuse to avoid New York center
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airspace.
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
And he's going
to go around New York?
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MALE SPEAKER 11:
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
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don't need to call.
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weather?
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Okay.
Yes. Okay.
All right.
You're working that severe
MALE SPEAKER 11:
Yes.
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
Okay.
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
Command center, Wanda.
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MALE SPEAKER 15:
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This is Dulles.
Bye.
Have we
stopped everything to New York?
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
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MALE SPEAKER 6:
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All right.
Yes. Command center east,
Tony.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
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MALE SPEAKER 6:
(Inaudible).
Stand by.
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MALE SPEAKER 16:
Andy (inaudible).
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MALE SPEAKER 17:
Hey, Andy, Atlanta.
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Detroit, I'm getting some delays, 20 and 30 minutes
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off the ground because (inaudible).
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if I could off-load a couple en routes south of
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Collyer, northwest 437.
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44 over (inaudible).
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I was wondering
It's currently
(inaudible)
MALE SPEAKER 16:
Yes.
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MALE SPEAKER 18:
Command center, Rob.
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MALE SPEAKER 19:
Rob, Steve in Philly.
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Both those are
good.
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Can you bring up Washington?
I got a guy we're going
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to send over to Greensboro from Woodstown and it's
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not the normal route.
I got to get approval.
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MALE SPEAKER 18:
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
Okay. Command center, Wanda.
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from Cleveland.
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center is ATC 0.
I just need to confirm, New York
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
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MALE SPEAKER 10:
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Hey, it's Pat calling
Yes, it is. Okay.
Thank you very
much
7
FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
All right.
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FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
Washington.
9
MALE SPEAKER 19:
Washington, Philly.
I
10
have a Chautauqua 4805 going to Greensboro.
11
to put him over Woodstown since New York is -- all
12
traffic to New York is stopped.
13
that?
14
FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
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MALE SPEAKER 19:
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in.
I'd like
If you could approve
That's good. Okay, and it's already
Thanks.
17
FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
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MALE SPEAKER 19:
Thanks.
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MALE SPEAKER 18:
Command center.
MALE SPEAKER 19:
Rob, this is Philly.
20
Uh-huh.
This is
Rob.
21 22
need Baltimore this time, please.
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up?
I
Can you bring them
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MALE SPEAKER 18:
Hold on.
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Baltimore.
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Baltimore,
Philly here.
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New York center stopped everything because of what
3
happened, and I'd like to know if I can get a route
4
to Las Vegas and one to St. Louis through you if we
5
do the --
6
MALE SPEAKER 20:
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you up.
8
second.
Let me have TRACON pick
I think they will be able to, but hold on a
9
MALE SPEAKER 19:
Thanks.
10
MALE SPEAKER 20:
Hey, Philly, this is
11
Baltimore.
12
MALE SPEAKER 19: Baltimore.
13
MALE SPEAKER 20:
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routes you normally do.
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MALE SPEAKER 19:
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problem.
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anymore.
18 19 20
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Just put him on swap
Well, because that's the
We don't have the routes published up here
MALE SPEAKER 20:
What do you mean you
don't have them anymore? MALE SPEAKER 19:
Well, we had them, but
they're not here anymore. MALE SPEAKER 20:
All right.
23
let me -- you got a fax number?
24
to -- how many airplanes you got?
25
MALE SPEAKER 19:
Let me --
That might be easier
Well, for now it's just
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two.
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for our push, but -- actually I got two more, yeah.
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How about if I give you my fax number?
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MALE SPEAKER 20:
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Now, you know, later on, we're getting ready
Well, what do you got,
Washington center on here too?
6
MALE SPEAKER 19:
No, actually --
7
MALE SPEAKER 20:
Because (inaudible) into
8
New York center, they just cleared ATC 0.
9 10
MALE SPEAKER 19:
Okay.
I'm going to have
MALE SPEAKER 20:
You're going to have to
to -- okay.
11
12
do some more coordinating.
13
have to get you the routes and the traffic manager
14
will get a hold of you.
15
MALE SPEAKER 19:
I guess we're going to
Okay.
Well, can you get
16
those together, because yeah, I'll have to go through
17
Washington to see how many -- what they're going to
18
need from you guys, because we're in --
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MALE SPEAKER 20:
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(inaudible) right now of 15.
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Yeah, because we've got
MALE SPEAKER 19:
Right.
We're going to
MALE SPEAKER 20:
Let's see, Las Vegas.
be -I
can give you these two real quick. MALE SPEAKER 19:
Okay.
What do you got?
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Las Vegas, so it's Dupont 166 --
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(End of side 1.)
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
This is a
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continuation, position 14B, the command center, for
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September 11.
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13:15 Zulu.
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This is tape 1, part 2, start time
MALE SPEAKER 19:
Right.
We're going to
MALE SPEAKER 20:
Let's see, Las Vegas.
be -I
can give you these two real quick.
11
MALE SPEAKER 19:
Okay.
What do you got?
12
Las Vegas, so it's Dupont 166, and --
13
MALE SPEAKER 20:
Las Vegas.
14
BACKGROUND MALE:
Did you run them through
15
the machine to see if he stopped on the transponder
16
showed a hijack?
17 18
BACKGROUND MALE:
I don't know.
I can do
a spread on him also.
19
BACKGROUND MALE:
Yeah, do that.
20
MALE SPEAKER 20:
All right, we got --
21
then after that, he'll be -- it really needs is --
22
what do you got, J-166, or Victor 166 relay.
23
MALE SPEAKER 19:
Okay.
24
MALE SPEAKER 20:
Baltimore, Linden, LDN
25
J-134, the Bravo Uniform Mike.
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Okay.
2
MALE SPEAKER 20:
J-110 to Boulder.
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MALE SPEAKER 19:
Okay.
4
need.
5 6
That's all I
J-l -- you have FMN for Boulder? MALE SPEAKER 20:
No, BUM -- or J-100 to
Boulder, BLD.
7
MALE SPEAKER 19:
Okay.
8
MALE SPEAKER 20:
Correct Las Vegas.
9
MALE SPEAKER 19:
Okay.
10
And the St. Louis
one will be 166 (inaudible)?
11
MALE SPEAKER 20:
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what we got here.
All right.
13
it'll just be a sec.
St. Louis.
Let's see
St. Louis.
14
MALE SPEAKER 19:
Okay.
15
MALE SPEAKER 20:
Here it is.
Hang on,
Okay.
We
16
got -- let's send him out over, it'll be Linden, same
17
route to get to Linden.
18
MALE SPEAKER 19:
Okay.
19
MALE SPEAKER 20:
J-134, Falmouth, which
21
MALE SPEAKER 19:
Okay.
22
MALE SPEAKER 20:
Direct pocket city,
20
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is FLM.
which is PXV.
24
MALE SPEAKER 19:
Okay.
25
MALE SPEAKER 20:
Cueball for arrival, St.
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MALE SPEAKER 19:
Cueball to St. Louis.
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MALE SPEAKER 20:
Q-b-a-1-l-b.
4
MALE SPEAKER 19:
Yeah, we got that.
5
Okay.
Okay, that's what I needed.
6 7
MALE SPEAKER 20: let us know.
8 9
MALE SPEAKER 19:
Send -- hold on -- John,
what's our fax number up here?
10 11
If you need four of them
MALE SPEAKER 20:
Well, I got -- it would
be like 50 pages of these routes I got, so.
12
MALE SPEAKER 19:
. And I'm
13
going to work through Washington to see what they're
14
going to need for you, and, you know, if we have to
15
-- even if we have tp do 20 in trail, you know, as
16
long as we can get some of these guys out.
17 18
MALE SPEAKER 20: again. |_
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MALE SPEAKER 19:.Q-- yeah, where the
20
heck did it go --...]
22
part.
23 / /'"' 24 25
Yeah, tell me the number
.,
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MALE SPEAKER 20:
Tell me the rest. ,,""""
MALE SPEAKER 19:
Okay. I
MALE SP.EAKER...20:
I'll right.
1. I'll have
office fax you up one of these route sheets.
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MALE SPEAKER 19:
Okay.
2
MALE SPEAKER 20:
You know, i t ' s a big
3
document, like 50 pages.
4
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MALE SPEAKER 19: Okay.
I appreciate it.
Thanks.
6
MALE SPEAKER 20:
See ya.
7
MALE SPEAKER 19:
Bye bye.
8
BACKGROUND FEMALE:
Do we need paper?
9
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Washington.
10
MALE SPEAKER 21:
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MALE SPEAKER 7:
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MALE SPEAKER 21:
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Williamsburg.
14
Stand by, please.
15
16
Stand by, please. TRACON, Joe. Stand by, please.
Stand by, please.
Has this already been done?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE:
You've reached the
administrative office of (inaudible).
17
MALE SPEAKER 21:
18
MALE SPEAKER 7:
Williamsburg. TRACON, disregard.
19
is the ATC 0 for New York center.
20
have that?
21
Williamsburg.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE:
This
Does everybody Please leave a
22
message after the tone and we'll get back to you as
23
soon as possible.
24
MALE SPEAKER 21:
Stand by, please.
25
MALE SPEAKER 18:
New York center is
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declaring -- this is the command center.
2
13:22 Zulu.
3
this time.
4
the New York center area needs to place to hold him
5
out, find a place to put him elsewhere.
Again, this
6
is the command center, time is 13:22 Z.
New York
7
center has declared ATC 0 at this time.
Command
8
center is out.
9 10
New York center has declared ATC 0 at Anybody that has any aircraft inbound to
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Round up all your
flights into the Washington metro area, please.
11 12
Time now is
FEMALE SPEAKER 4:
I'm sorry, ground-stop
which ones?
13
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Ground-stop all
14
flights to the Washington metro area, Dulles,
15
National, and Baltimore.
16
FEMALE SPEAKER 4:
17
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
18
FEMALE SPEAKER 4:
Okay.
We'll do it.
And UFA. Okay.
Thank you.
While I have you
19
20
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
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sorry, I'm sorry, who's this?
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FEMALE SPEAKER 4:
I'm
This is Cleveland
center.
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Who's this?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
I'm sorry.
center?
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FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
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FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
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Yeah, Washington. Say again, Wash? You put me up.
What do
you need?
5
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Ground-stop all your
6
flights, well, everything ground-stop anyway to the
7
New York area.
You know about that, right?
8
FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
Yeah, till
9
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
1700.
Yeah, I'm just
10
ground-stop all -- right now, it's just been through
11
UFA, but we're ground-stopping everything into the DC
12
metro area also right now.
13
MALE SPEAKER 22:
Atlanta's got a
14
question.
15
metres, or will we be able to accommodate what's in
16
the air?
17
Are we going to have to hold the DC
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
They should be able to
18
help you with what's in the air.
19
should -- that shouldn't be a problem.
20
want everything ground-stopped, what's on the ground,
21
just keep it there for a while until we get
22
everything squared away here.
23
MALE SPEAKER 22:
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
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FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
I believe they Right now I
Okay. All right. Okay.
Thank you.
You want us to
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE
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Okay. All right.
Thank you.
Command center?
Command center?
7
9
Yes, please.
Command center's up. Yeah, we need Arthur to
call here at Cleveland center, if you could do that, please?
11
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Does he know the number?
12
FEMALE SPEAKER 4
13
MALE SPEAKER 18:
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FEMALE SPEAKER 4
Thank you.
15
MALE SPEAKER 23 :
LA approach.
16
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Hey, this is command
Yes, he does. Okay.
All right.
17
center.
We just put a ground-stop out for everything
18
going into the Washington metro area, so I know you
19
were trying to work a couple of deals with some guys
20
in the tower en route out to the west out there.
21
may have some difficulty and probably expect to hold
22
those guys on the ground.
23
MALE SPEAKER 23:
Okay.
24
MALE SPEAKER 18:
All right.
25
MALE SPEAKER 23:
Thanks.
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MALE SPEAKER 18:
Command center.
This is
MALE SPEAKER 19:
Rob, Steve in Philly.
Rob.
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Is there any idea for you to know how many diverts
5
we're going to be getting?
6 7
MALE SPEAKER 18:
It just depends on
who's out there and where they want to diver to.
8 9
No.
MALE SPEAKER 19:
Okay.
Now the other
problem is, New York center is 0, Washington just
10
stopped everything, so we have no departures, or we
11
can't depart.
12
we're getting ready for our, you know, the arrival
13
and departure push.
14
MALE SPEAKER 18:
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Okay.
16
actually --
17
Our gates are just about full because
I understand that.
So your diverts -- your diverts level is
MALE SPEAKER 19:
No, no, no, I'm not --
18
I'm not saying that.
19
there any way to know how long Washington is also
20
going to be stopped?
21 22 23
It's just that, you know, is
MALE SPEAKER 18:
No.
We don't -- there's
no way I could come up with an answer right no. MALE SPEAKER 19:
Now, is there, I guess,
24
because New York's not taking anything, and they're
25
-- they're holding all over the place.
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They're holding all over
2
the place and they're trying to right now find out
3
what they're going to do with what they've got, yes.
4
La Guardia is landing, it's my understanding.
5
only place that's really closed is Newark, so --
The
6
MALE SPEAKER 19:
Oh, okay.
7
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Flights at Kennedy, as
8
far as I know, are still landing at this time, so
9
they may be able to get some traffic in those two
10
places.
11
MALE SPEAKER 19:
Okay.
12
MALE SPEAKER 18:
All right?
13
MALE SPEAKER 19:
I appreciate it.
14
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Okay.
15
MALE SPEAKER 19:
Thanks.
16
FEMALE SPEAKER 4 : Cleveland.
17
FEMALE SPEAKER 5:
Cleveland, it's Carla
18
on the east side.
Hey, I got a question for you.
19
Are you tracking an American 11 right now that just
20
crossed over the boundary?
21
FEMALE SPEAKER 4
22
MALE SPEAKER 20:
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FEMALE SPEAKER 5
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No.
Baltimore. You don't have anything
on active radar? FEMALE SPEAKER 4:
No.
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Okay.
Okay.
Thank
you.
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MALE SPEAKER 20:
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
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MALE SPEAKER 20:
Ground-stopping
FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
Everything to
7
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
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MALE SPEAKER 20:
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
13
FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
Okay. All right.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
17
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
(Inaudible.) Hey WADS, Wanda.
Nobody departs? Nobody. No, I didn't get that.
FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
This is Wanda at
20
command center.
21
on, you need to ground-stop everything.
22
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Because of everything that's going
Everything?
No matter
where they're going?
24 25
Did
Who's this?
19
23
We got it.
you get the message nobody departs?
15
18
Nobody takes off.
everywhere.
10
14
All departures?
everything.
8 9
We just came out right?
FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
No matter where they're
going.
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
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MALE SPEAKER 17:
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(Inaudible) control
FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
Hey, Atlanta, Wanda at
command center.
7
MALE SPEAKER 17:
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
9
Thank you.
center.
5 6
All right.
Yes. Did you get the message
to stop everything?
10
MALE SPEAKER 17:
We have stopped all
11
departures destined all airports of Atlanta.
12
-- I think we have one more that has already taken
13
off, and actually, he didn't even make it, so we're
14
done.
15
FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
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MALE SPEAKER 17:
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
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All right.
We had
Thanks.
Okay. Did you get the message
to ground-stop all your airplanes' departures? UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Yeah, we got Chicago
20
center, or I'm sorry, New York center, and then DC,
21
Baltimore, and Philly.
22 23
FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
No, ground-stop
everything.
24
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
25
FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
Okay.
Bye.
Nobody departs.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
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MALE SPEAKER 24:
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
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command center.
5
airplane. MALE SPEAKER 24:
7
FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
8
MALE SPEAKER 24:
9
FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
Charlotte. This is Wanda at
Okay.
We're going to --
Nobody departs.
Okay.
We're going to --
Nobody is going
nowhere, zip, zero.
11 12
Bye.
We're ground-stopping every
6
10
Okay.
MALE SPEAKER 24:
Okay.
No airplanes in
the air.
13
FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
14
MALE SPEAKER 25:
15
I didn't catch all that.
16
traffic?
Thank you. This is Raleigh Durham.
You're ground-stopping all
17
FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
18
MALE SPEAKER 25: This is Raleigh Durham.
19
FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Yeah, Raleigh, this is
20 21
command center.
MALE SPEAKER 25:
Everything into the
system, regardless of where they're going, right?
24 25
Right now we're ground-stopping
everything.
22
23
Excuse me?
FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
Nobody departs,
nowhere.
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MALE SPEAKER 25: Thank you very much.
MALE SPEAKER 24: Charlotte got it, Wanda. ^/ < 0 \\ -"1 ^L^jyrWMiE STEAKBR—'18 : Boston, are J
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:
Say again?
Okay.
Stand by, please.
6
Okay.
It looks like I have everyone on here except
7
Boston center.
8
center, the NTMO on duty in the west area.
9
have all traffic management units do an inventory,
This is the air traffic command I need to
10
basically an inventory of all airborne traffic,
11
ensure that you do not have any unusual situations or
12
any aircraft that are not accounted for. If you have
13
any unusual situations or unaccounted-for aircraft,
14
identify them and contact us here at the command
15
center.
16
MALE SPEAKER 17:
17
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
18
MALE SPEAKER 18:
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
21
MALE SPEAKER 18:
25
Go ahead. What about the VFRs? I would think we would
primarily be concerned with commercial aircraft.
23
24
Hey, command center?
Command center?
19
22
Atlanta got it.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Okay.
All right.
Thanks. UNIDENTIFIED
FEMALE:
Okay, that first
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part of that statement was you just want --
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MALE SPEAKER 18:
3
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: -- unusual
4
I want --
situations, or you want a county of everything?
5
MALE SPEAKER 18:
No, I want -- I want --
6
I want specific information if there are any unusual
7
information involving commercial aircraft or any
8
missing aircraft, any targets that have dropped off,
9
anything of that nature.
10
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE:
11
MALE SPEAKER 23:
12 13 14
'^QP FEMALE SPEAKER 4:
Okay.
LA's got it. United 93 may have a
bomb on board. ^u^Jo'^^MALE SPEAKER 18:
Okay.
United 93.
Who's
•^/
15 16 17 18 19
speaking? ^ ff FEMALE SPEAKER 4: Cleveland center.
Q^/5 u
y£>^ XY^KMALE SPEAKER 18:
Okay, Cleveland.
What's
his origination and destination? ~~7 o
BACKGROUND FEMALE:
Out of Newark going to
20
San Francisco.
21
"2.6$
22
San Francisco.
23
actually he's farther than that.
24
Dreyer.
25
Dreyer.
FEMALE SPEAKER 4: Out of Newark going to His position is 20 -- 15 East -He's east of
His exact position is 30 miles east of
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Do you have a
transponder on this aircraft or did he go primary?
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Okay.
~"7i)/5 FEMALE SPEAKER 4:
At this time he's code '
5
1527 and we still have a transponder. f^a^~jv jrLI
6
me any additional information as to why you believe
7
there may be a bomb?
8 9 10
11 12 13
14
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FEMALE SPEAKER 4:
4(jv+~> firf^^ MALE SPEAKER 18:
you.
Anyone else?
Okay.
Very good.
Thank
All right, I'm disconnecting now.
/^^^TTNIDENTIFIED MALE: //O>X MALE SPEAKER 18:
Hello? (Inaudible) where I
asked about any suspicious aircraft? UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
16
MALE SPEAKER 18:
someone.
Yeah. Okay, I was -- I missed
I thought it was you.
18
19
Because he's screaming
that on the frequency.
15
17
Q
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Okay. No.
Thanks a lot.
That was Boston
you missed.
20
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Oh.
Command center.
21
MALE SPEAKER 25:
Command center.
I've got a question for you.
This is
22
Raleigh.
I know we had
23
a restriction not to put anything in the system.
24
MALE SPEAKER 18:
That's correct.
25
MALE SPEAKER 25:
What I transferred that
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as there will be no air traffic clears to anybody,
2
VFR or airborne.
3
Is that correct?
«A)^MALE SPEAKER 4A:
That's correct.
v^ r-,-:L~
4 5
v'MALE SPEAKER 25: Thank you.
6 7
MALE SPEAKER 18: center.
All right.
Command
This is Rob.
8 9
T h a t ' s appreciated.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Hey, Rob.
Reference
traffic we're getting South American northbound.
Are
10
we to let them fly or would you prefer we put them on
11
the ground somewhere down here?
12
MALE SPEAKER 18:
13
ground somewhere.
14
ground.
15 16
They need to be on the
They need to divert or get on the
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Okay.
let them --
17
MALE SPEAKER 18:
18
else in the system coming around here.
19 20
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
BACKGROUND MALE:
22
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
24 25
They don't want anybody
Okay.
Hold on a
second.
21
23
So we're not to
American 1394. I have American -- we
got American 1394. BACKGROUND MALE:
Took off from Miami
heading to --
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Disregard
all that.
3
MALE SPEAKER 18:
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All right.
Okay.
You okay with
that?
5
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Yeah.
6
MALE SPEAKER 18:
7
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
8
MALE SPEAKER 18:
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
All right. Okay. I'll tell them. All right.
10
MALE SPEAKER 26:
Toronto team, Dan.
11
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Toronto, Dan, command
12
center.
How you doing?
We'd like to ground-stop
13
everything out of Canada to the US, okay?
14
MALE SPEAKER 26:
Yeah, we're doing it.
15
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Okay.
17
MALE SPEAKER 26:
Okay.
18
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Thanks.
19
MALE SPEAKER 26:
All right.
20
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Command center.
21
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
(Inaudible) USA
for now.
16
Hey, I got a
22
Patterson, an evac flight,
23
| [ wanting to depart, go to JFK 120 at 56 Radio for
24 25
> 9/11
this -- presidential support aircraft. . M A L E SPEAKER 18:
He's presidential
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: tower said.
4 5
He said NAOC presidential support. MALE SPEAKER 18:
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
7
to release this guy or not.
8
^JCMALE SPEAKER %S>:
10
I tell you what.
I
think that --
6
9
That's what Patterson
I don't know whether
I don't know either
because you got everybody -- everybody in the whole country's ground-stopped right now.
11
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
I know.
That's what I
12
told him and he said he -- the guy said he needed to
13
go and go to the JFK 120 at 56.
14 15
MALE SPEAKER 18: it?
16 17
What type of airplane is
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: E-4.
18
MALE SPEAKER 18:
19
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
20
MALE SPEAKER 18:
E-4, I think he said,
He said he was
presidential support?
23
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
24
MALE SPEAKER 18:
25
E-4?
yeah.
21 22
Oh, shoot, E-6, ft- 4,
what.
That's what he said. Okay.
I'll tell you
We're going to have someone call up in that
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one, maybe the Pentagon or something like that.
2
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
That would probably be
3
-- because I don't think Cleveland's going to take
4
him from us without us --
5
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Yeah, and I'm not even
6
- - I ' l l tell you what, let me talk to my supervisor.
7
I kind of doubt if --
8
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
9
back.
10
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Steve, and you're
(inaudrble), Steve?
12
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
13
MALE SPEAKER 18:
14
And he's right now
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
17
MALE SPEAKER 18:
18
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
19
MALE SPEAKER 18:
20
JFK 120 at 56? Yes. All right.
And he's
presidential security?
21
MALE SPEAKER 19:
Actually says |
j
23.
25
Patterson JFK 120 at
56.
16
24
Yeah.
Patterson to -- to where?
15
22
Just call me
This is Steve. i
11
Okay.
MALE SPEAKER 18:;
I :;::::UNIDENTIFIED
MALE:
Yeah.
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Bye.
2
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Thanks.
3
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Hey, Cleveland/ we got
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Okay, we just lost the
4 5
6
transponder -- the transponder on United 93 .
7
reversed direction to the eastbound. He (inaudible)
8
west of (inaudible) at this time.
9
10
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Okay, thanks.
He has
When
was the last communication we had with him?
11
MALE SPEAKER 27:
Indy.
12
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Indy, this is command
13
center on VD36.
14
MALE SPEAKER 27:
On who?
15
MALE SPEAKER 18:
VD36, did you call about
17
MALE SPEAKER 27:
Okay.
18
^j^^MALE SPEAKER 3*8:
16
him? What about him?
All right.
We are not
19
going to allow that guy to depart.
20
have to get some further -- he's going to have to go
21
up the line and have him call back here.
22
MALE SPEAKER 27:
You're going to
All right.
While I'm
23
talking -- all right, he's not going to be able to
24
depart.
25
MALE SPEAKER 18:
You'll have to get your
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(inaudible) from somebody that (inaudible) and have
2
him call back to the command center.
3
MALE SPEAKER 27:
While I'm talking to
4
you, TWA 166 is turning around and said his company
5
told him to go back where he came from.
6
he's off the St. Louis en route to DCA. He is
7
turning around to go back to St. Louis.
8
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Okay.
9
MALE SPEAKER 27:
All right?
10
I believe
And that's
all we know so far.
11
MALE SPEAKER 18
All right.
12
MALE SPEAKER 27
All right.
13
MALE SPEAKER 18
Company told him that?
14
MALE SPEAKER 27
That's what he said.
15
MALE SPEAKER 18
Thank you.
16
MALE SPEAKER 27
Yep.
17
MALE SPEAKER 10
This is Cleveland
18
center.
Who's up?
19
UNIDENXXFTJSD MALE:
20
with about five or six people listening.
21
MALE SPEAKER 10:
It is command center
(Inaudible) if we have
22
any military escorts or not?
23
We'd like to be able to track this guy so we know
24
he's not (inaudible).
25
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Are we pursuing that?
Command center, this is
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Rob.
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MALE SPEAKER 28:
Essentially we got a --
3
just so you know, we're just about complete with our
4
relocation.
5
TRACON and we'll be at our alternative site at the US
6
Air terminal.
7 8
We've delegated our airspace to the
MALE SPEAKER 18:
As soon as you get a
phone number we can get all these.
Let us know.
9
MALE SPEAKER 28:
Yep, will do.
10
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Thanks. Command center,
11
this is Rob.
12
MALE SPEAKER 28:
13
Guardia here.
14
us.
Command center, La
Here's a number to get in contact with
15
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Go ahead.
16
MALE SPEAKER 28:
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MALE SPEAKER 18:
18
MALE SPEAKER 28:
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MALE SPEAKER 18:
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MALE SPEAKER 28:
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MALE SPEAKER 18:
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MALE SPEAKER 28:/
23
MALE SPEAKER 18?
24
MALE SPEAKER 28-
Okay?
25
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Who is this?
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This is La Guardia
LMALE MALE MALE MALE MALE MALE MALE
Give me your initials.
tower
3
4 5 6 7 8 9
SPEAKER SPEAKER SPEAKER SPEAKER SPEAKER SPEAKER SPEAKER
18 28 18 28 18 28 18
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MALE SPEAKER 7:
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MALE SPEAKER 18:
12
A couple of questions.
13
traffic and landing there?
14
MALE SPEAKER 7:
15
MALE SPEAKER 18:
16
MALE SPEAKER 7:
17
Hector Zulu. Thank you. And yours? RG. Thank you. Thank you. TRACON. TRACON, command center.
JFK, are you still taking
No. And --
No.
Everything in
November 90 is shut down. MALE SPEAKER 18:
18
And nobody's -- okay, so
19
you're not taking anybody at any of the airports
20
right now?
21
MALE SPEAKER 7:
22
MALE SPEAKER 18
23
MALE SPEAKER 7:
24
MALE SPEAKER 18:
25
No.
Is that correct? Right.
Stuff that's airborne,
are you trying to get them divert and take off
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somewhere else?
2
MALE SPEAKER 7:
We're not working any
3
airplanes right in the room right now.
4
what the centers are -- surrounding centers are
5
doing.
6 7
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Thank you very
much.
8 9
Okay.
I don't know
MALE SPEAKER 7:
All right.
You're
welcome.
10
MALE SPEAKER 10:
Command center,
12
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Go ahead.
13
MALE SPEAKER 10:
Do we consider this
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Stand by.
As secure as
All right.
Stand by.
11
14
Cleveland.
secure?
15 16
we have in the building.
17
MALE SPEAKER 10:
18
Okay.
We've talked to Pittsburgh and we believe they
19
just evacuated due to the fact that the United jet
20
was going right over top of their facility at the
21
time as best we knew.
So that's the issue there.
22
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Okay.
23
MALE SPEAKER 10:
The only other issue
24
then is just that we did have reported military
25
activity in the -- I'll leave it at that.
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MALE SPEAKER 18:
Is there anything else
we need to know?
3
MALE SPEAKER 10:
Well, the pilot of the
4
Delta, we're talking to him, he's presently telling
5
us that he's going into Cleveland, so we're getting a
6
little bit of contradictory reports.
7
they're saying now that he's not -- the pilot is
8
saying that he is not a trip flight, but we're just
9
not 100 percent sure because there's been some
Okay.
And
10
inconsistencies, but he is -- he is -- all right, and
11
we'd like someone in Delta company to confirm for us
12
the company -- he's saying company told him that he
13
was not -- that he was just going to Cleveland for a
14
precautionary measure, because we're not sure.
15 16
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Command center.
This is
Rob.
17
MALE SPEAKER 7:
Hey Rob, Carl.
18
bring up Boston center for me, please?
19
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Sure.
20
MALE SPEAKER 11:
Boston center.
21
MALE SPEAKER 7:
Can you
Hold on, Carl.
Hey, Boston, TRACON here.
22
Reference Panta 55, it's over the top of Kennedy
23
right now.
24
someone we can talk to immediately in case we do
25
observe any other targets, and we're just trying to
We need to somehow have a focal point or
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ascertain on how we should go about doing that.
2
MALE SPEAKER 11:
Hold on, New York.
3
Okay, you were asking about what you want to do with
4
this fighter holding up over Kennedy in case there's
5
more suspicious aircraft, is that correct?
6
MALE SPEAKER 7:
7
MALE SPEAKER 11:
Correct. Hold on just a second.
8
I'm trying to talk to the boss on this.
9
still there?
10 11 12
13
MALE SPEAKER 7:
Yeah.
x,jy[ALE SPEAKER 11: Hang on a second. <x jj AV^^ UNIDENTIFIED MALE: More on United 93,
Cleveland?
14
MALE SPEAKER 10:
15
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
16 17
TRACON, you
I'm sorry.
Say again?
Anything more on
United 93? MALE SPEAKER 10:
No, we've talked to
18
Washington and showed them the primary that we
19
believe he is --
20
MALE SPEAKER 11: You're looking for a
21
point of contact to talk to about coordinating this
22
F-15, right?
23
MALE SPEAKER 7:
24
MALE SPEAKER 11:
25
the hotline?
That's correct. How about if we set up
Will that work for you?
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MALE SPEAKER 7:
2
MALE SPEAKER 11:
3 4
Uh -The -- the New York
TRACON hotline? MALE SPEAKER 7:
No.
I just think if we
5
had -- if we had a number that we needed that the
6
line would stay open -- hang on one second.
7
one second, Boston.
8
MALE SPEAKER 11:
9
MALE SPEAKER 7:
Hang on
Sure, no problem. If we have a focal point
10
that if we do (inaudible) we're able to get a hold of
11
immediately, they want to know should just do it on
12
the hotline --
13
UNIDENTIF^-BD MALE:
Delta Airlines advised
14
that their Delta 1989 is going into Cleveland as a
15
precautionary measure and is not a trip flight.
16 17
BACKGROUND MALE:
Ask them if they're able
to man the hotline, we'll do it on the hotline.
18
MALE SPEAKER 7:
19
MALE SPEAKER 11:
20
MALE SPEAKER 7:
Hey Boston? We're still here. Are you guys -- if you
21
guys are able to -- if you guys are able to man the
22
hotline, we'll do it on the hotline then.
23
MALE SPEAKER 11:
Okay.
We'll come up on
24
the hotline just as a focal point for any kind of
25
coordination to be done with anything like that, all
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2
MALE SPEAKER 7:
3
MALE SPEAKER 11:
4
MALE SPEAKER 7:
5
MALE SPEAKER 10:
Okay.
Very good.
No problem. Thanks. And command center is
6
still in there, give us a decision if they want us to
7
do anything at Cleveland when this Delta lands.
8
^f^y^UiregETfTIF-IED-MftLE:
9
MALE SPEAKER 10:
Stand by. And command center, I
10
know my chief's talking to some people on the other
11
line, but just so you know, we have an unconfirmed
12
report from a VFR. He believes he saw the United
13
down low around 7,500 feet.
14 15
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
18
The
location of that, please?
16 17
Thank you.
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Command center, this is
MALE SPEAKER 19:
Command center, Philly.
Rob.
19
We need to know if the withholding of departure
20
clearances to VFR and IFR also apply to military.
21
MALE SPEAKER 18:
They're going to have to
22
-- the military's going to have to verify through the
23
Defense Department.
24
and find a way to come back through.
25
-- I'm not giving it you.
They're going to have to go back I'm not taking
You're -- they're going to
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have to go through their next level up and come back
2
through the command center to get that.
3
MALE SPEAKER 19:
Okay.
4
MALE SPEAKER 18:
So, yes, it does apply.
5
MALE SPEAKER 19:
All right.
6
1°^
UNIDENTIFIED-MALE:
Thanks.
All right, the Indian
7
Head 174 at 11 miles is that I'm being told turning
8
eastbound and we're fairly confirmed at 8,000 by a
9
VFR.
10 11
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Thank you.
That's --
you're still showing that -- okay, got it.
12
f\§^ \3m£ENTnji^LE&--tfKtt-.
Okay.
If you want my
13
longs, let me know, we can try to get them.
14
United 93, they now say is northwestbound.
15
that the VFR is -- does see him.
16
he's waving his wings.
17
anything, that means or has to do with anything.
18
Okay.
19
about a 80 heading, erratic, a little bit of an
20
erratic heading.
21
22 23 24 25
And the They say
It's confirmed, and
We're not sure what, if
He -- he's back towards the east now, I'd say
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Command center, this is
Rob. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: helpline established.
Hi, Rob.
We have the
It's at New York TRACON.
MALE SPEAKER 18:
We're up -- we're up on
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tOO.
2
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Okay.
And it now
3
appears United 93 is turning back towards the
4
southeast again.
5
guess I would say in a holding pattern, but not
6
progressing in any one direction here.
Really right now we're kind of, I
7
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Okay.
8
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Just as a heads up, we
9
believe that Delta's now talking to Cleveland
10
approach, and right now we're treating it as not a
11
hijacking.
12
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Thank you.
13
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Okay, the United has
14
now come up back on -- his transponder's up.
15
back on his original code, 8200 feet.
16
17
^j^MAtE—S^EAEER_18 :
He's
Command center, this is
Rob.
18
MALE SPEAKER 29:
Hello there.
Washington
19
approach.
20
anything above our airspace also.
21
is going to start shooting at anything in the air.
22 23 24 25
Make sure that the center does not have
MALE SPEAKER 18:
The Secret Service
Well, hold on a second.
Let's tell Washington center. MALE SPEAKER 29:
I'm telling you and I
got to get out of here.
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MALE SPEAKER 18:
Are you abandoning the
MALE SPEAKER 29:
No, we're not.
2 3
4
get off this line.
I got to
The other ones are (inaudible).
5
FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
6
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Washington. Washington, I just got a
7
Washington approach control, DCA.
They said that if
8
there's anything above their airspace over there,
9
that the Secret Service is going to eeee-fire, so make
10
sure that the airspace in the Washington National
11
area anyway is clear.
12
FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
13
MALE SPEAKER 18:
14
He didn't say.
He just
said don't bring it over, so I don't know.
15
16
How high up?
FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
Okay.
Anything just
over the whole approach airspace or just --
17
MALE SPEAKER 18:
That's what they said.
18
That's -- this is what he told me and he just dived
19
off the line.
20
21
FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
Clear off --
clear --
22
23
Okay.
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Just around Washington
National.
24
FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
25
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Okay. He just said the Secret
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Service evidently is getting ready to -- anything
2
that moves up, there they're going to take it out.
3 4
FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
Okay.
National (inaudible).
5
MALE SPEAKER 18:
6
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
7
And National --
All right.
Yeah.
So what do they want
me to -- to see if anyone in our airspace is missing?
8
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
If somebody meets that
10
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Okay.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Hey, disregard the
9
criteria.
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Northwest.
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for looking.
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V^>5\5
Hold on.
I guess we're okay on that one.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Thanks
Okay, and I believe we
Janojigfet the United, and let me give
16
Okay.
17
believe on about a 140 heading, and now we've lost
18
all radar on him.
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He was 16 south of Johnstown VOR, JFT, and we
That's the United.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Okay.
Now that was
the guy who had his transponder back on, right? UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Yeah, it came on
22
briefly and then it went back off with the primary,
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and now we've lost him completely.
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working Cleveland approach.
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they are going to treat him like a trip aircraft on
The Delta is
They've advised us that
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landing.
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<"l ft'b UJf^BE^TIFIED MALE:
We have a report in
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the vicinity of the United of black -- black smoke
4
here -- just, again, the position I had just gave
5
you, Johnstown was the last known position.
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trying to see if we can get an ELT check.
7
-- okay, the last lat longs we have for the United
8
are 3951 North, 07846 West.
9
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Okay.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Copy that, command
TTKLmENTXggBP~MMrE:
3951 North, 07846
And
center.
11 12
We're
West, last known position.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Correct.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Philly.
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MALE SPEAKER 18:
Command center.
You
16
guys called earlier about some military traffic that
17
was trying to get a clearance out of there.
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still trying to get out of there?
19
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
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here.
21
traffic.
Are they
No, it wasn't out of
Trenton tower called about VFR military
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MALE SPEAKER 18:
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Oh, okay, all right. And I talked with Navy
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Willow Grove and they understand what the situation
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is.
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MALE SPEAKER 18:
Okay.
Good enough.
Thanks.
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UNIDENTIFIED
MALE:
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Okay. We do have a confirmed
5
of a downed aircraft.
We're passing the lat long to
6
the military now by a VFR in the vicinity where we
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last had the United.
8
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
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MALE SPEAKER 18:
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Command center, this is
Rob.
11 12
Roger.
MALE SPEAKER 30: Yeah, are you in contact with the FBI?
13
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Not directly.
14
MALE SPEAKER 30:
Okay.
They're on the
15
phone right now.
16
to get a confirmation on a United 93, find out if
17
there are terrorists confirmed on board.
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MALE SPEAKER 18:
back.
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They want to find out -- they want
I'll have to call you
Who is this? MALE SPEAKER 30:
This is (inaudible)
north tower.
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MALE SPEAKER 18:
Give me your initials.
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MALE SPEAKER 30:
Sierra November.
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MALE SPEAKER 18:
I'll get right back to
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Tower.
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MALE SPEAKER 18:
Who is this?
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MALE SPEAKER 3o:
Sierra November.
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MALE SPEAKER 18:
Okay.
5
the command center.
6
terrorists on board with knives.
7
8
Hello?
This is Rob at
It is confirmed they had three
MALE SPEAKER 30:
Three with knives.
MALE SPEAKER 18:
All right.
Okay.
9 10
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
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and I can hang on for that if you like.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
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-- the Delta
lands,
I'll keep you on until
the Delta lands.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Okay.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Do you have the staff
16
to keep yourself right there?
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Yeah.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Let's -- for now,
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let's do that.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
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MALE SPEAKER 18:
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Bye.
All right.
Command center, this is
Rob. MALE SPEAKER 7:
Hey, Rob, how you doing?
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This is Bob (inaudible) at the TRACON.
You're not
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doing too good, but what are you doing with all the
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internationals that are destined to Kennedy?
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MALE SPEAKER 18:
They're all being
3
diverted as far as I know.
They will be taken over
4
to Canada and moved to Canada.
5
MALE SPEAKER 7:
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MALE SPEAKER 18:
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
8
Okay, great.
Thank you.
Bye. Cleveland, what's the
status of Pittsburgh right now?
9
MALE SPEAKER 10:
Okay, they are back in
10
their tower, and they are pulling aircraft in to land
11
them.
12
count here of how many we have remaining to go in, if
13
you want to hold on, please.
14
back in the tower.
15
from us.
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airspace on final waiting plan.
17 18
There were some holding.
Okay, Pittsburgh is
They've taken all the aircraft
They still have about four in their
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: ATCs.
We'll get you a
They're no longer
Got it.
19
MALE SPEAKER 10:
Correct.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Okay.
We're -- we're
21
trying to garner a list of airplanes -- of aircraft
22
-- airports that are available to be used.
23
include Pittsburgh in that usable airport category?
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MALE SPEAKER 10:
Shall we
Do you want us to ask
them or -- I mean, as far as I'm concerned, yet, but
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you want me to verify with them that they're going to
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keep a crew available?
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
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aircrafts, they're available.
5
MALE SPEAKER 10:
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them right now, yeah.
7
right.
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If they're taking
Yeah, they're taking
I would include them.
All
Delta 1989 is on the ground. UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Okay.
Thanks.
Stay
with me please.
10
MALE SPEAKER 10:
Okay.
They're taxiing
11
him away from the -- away from the terminal to an
12
isolated area.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: second.
I was off for just a
What did you say? MALE SPEAKER 10:
They're taxiing the
16
Delta to an isolated area away from the terminal.
17
Okay, command center, heads up about Pittsburgh.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
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MALE SPEAKER 10:
Go. They say they are pretty
20
much saturated with aircraft.
They said they could
21
probably handle about six more arrivals if they're
22
diverts that need to go in there, but other than that
23
they're at capacity, so I don't know how you want to
24
consider that as far as them being available, but
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they probably cannot hold more than about six more
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airplanes there on the ground.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Stand by.
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The number is six.
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Command center, this is
MALE SPEAKER 11:
Hey, Rob, Boston center
Rob.
6 7
here.
I got a question for you.
I know there was a
8
guide earlier about law enforcement aircraft.
9
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Yep.
10
MALE SPEAKER 11:
We got three Omaha
11
aircraft that need to get -- they just got recalled
12
from Burlington, Vermont down to Jacksonville,
13
Florida.
14
now but they want to know if we can let them go or
15
not, and we're just looking for guidance from you
16
guys.
17 18
And we're holding them on the ground right
MALE SPEAKER 18:
All right.
Three Omaha,
I need some call signs.
19
MALE SPEAKER 11:
Omaha 58.
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MALE SPEAKER 18:
58.
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MALE SPEAKER 11:
79.
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MALE SPEAKER 18:
79.
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MALE SPEAKER 11:
85.
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MALE SPEAKER 18:
85.
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MALE SPEAKER 11:
To Navy Jacks NIP.
And they are were?
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MALE SPEAKER 18:
They want to get to Navy
MALE SPEAKER 11:
That's where they want
Jacks?
3 4
to get to.
I told them to tell them that -- what you
5
guys said earlier, there's no guarantee they're going
6
to be able to get there once they get airborne.
7
MALE SPEAKER 18:
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Where are they located now?
9
MALE SPEAKER 11:
I have to get -- yeah.
They're in Burlington,
10
Vermont right now, but I don't think they're even in
11
the plane yet, but they just came to the door saying,
12
look, we got recalled, we got to go.
13 14
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Tell them to hold on and
I'll get back with you.
15
MALE SPEAKER 11:
Okay.
Bye.
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MALE SPEAKER 18:
Okay.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
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MALE SPEAKER 10:
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I questioned
Hey, Cleveland? Yeah.
20
Pittsburgh, but they have quite a few runways that
21
they could use to park (inaudible), right?
22
considering that option as well?
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MALE SPEAKER 10:
Are they
I knew -- I did not know
24
that, but I will get back to you on that.
25
they just -- they called us unsolicited and gave us
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could only take six more, so I'm sure in an emergency
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they could put them on the runways or something.
4
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
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MALE SPEAKER 10:
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Okay. I don't know how many
that would add up to.
7
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Hey, Cleveland?
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MALE SPEAKER 10:
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Yeah. At Pittsburgh, when
10
you talk to them, let them know that we need them to
11
use the runways for parking and not to deny any
12
diverts if at all possible.
13
accommodate whoever needs to get in there, we need to
14
use his runways.
15 16
So whatever he can do to
MALE SPEAKER 10:
All right.
We'll pass
that along.
17
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Thank you.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Cleveland?
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MALE SPEAKER 10:
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along to a manager.
Just let me pass this
I'll get right to you.
21
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
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MALE SPEAKER 18:
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Okay. Command center, this is
Rob.
MALE SPEAKER 7: off the hotline.
TRACON.
We got bumped
I'm trying to get back on.
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MALE SPEAKER 18:
MALE SPEAKER 7:
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All right. Let me know if you need
anything.
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MALE SPEAKER 7:
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
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The lines are
probably tied up now, that's the problem.
4
6
Okay.
Okay. -- Boston center can't
find it still.
10
MALE SPEAKER 10:
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
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MALE SPEAKER 11:
Boston center.
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MALE SPEAKER 18:
Boston center, command
14
center.
Okay, hold on. Okay.
Thanks.
The Omahas are released.
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MALE SPEAKER 11:
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Okay.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
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of the September 11 tapes.
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1, part 1.
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This is a continuation
This is position 14B tape
Start time, 12:15 Zulu. MALE SPEAKER 1:
American 11, American 11,
6
is a 757 departed Boston, going to LAX.
7
know where the aircraft is going.
8
going to LAX, so it's going westbound.
9
frequency, then we lost its transponder, and now the
10
It's supposedly We lost its
aircraft is just west of Albany heading eastbound.
11 12
We don't
MALE SPEAKER 2:
Oh my goodness.
do we have the data box on this?
13
MALE SPEAKER 1:
Yeah.
Who's got the -We think there's a
14
primary target presently and it's heading
15
southwestbound.
16 17
MALE SPEAKER 2:
Okay.
Do we --
Understand.
I'll
advise the area.
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MALE SPEAKER 1:
Last altitude observed
20
MALE SPEAKER 2:
29.
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MALE SPEAKER 1:
Heading southwestbound,
19
was 290. Southbound?
22
like towards Hancock, right around there.
23
southwest of Albany by 15 miles.
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MALE SPEAKER 3:
He's
And we have no idea where
he's going?
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No idea, sir.
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MALE SPEAKER 3
All right.
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MALE SPEAKER 2
You can tag him on the
4
CSC (inaudible).
5
MALE SPEAKER 3
(Inaudible) primary only?
6
MALE SPEAKER 1
Primary only.
7
MALE SPEAKER 3
Okay.
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MALE SPEAKER 1
Okay.
9
MALE SPEAKER 2
Thank you.
10 11 12
Thank you. Hold on one
second, boss. MALE SPEAKER 4:
Boston center claims that
they lost radio communication with the aircraft.
13
BACKGROUND MALE:
14
MALE SPEAKER 4:
And a transponder. And a transponder.
And
15
there's also -- they're tracking a primary target at
16
this point.
17
and it appears to have turned southbound westbound,
18
and also there was some mention of some sort of a
19
threat being made --
It was last known at flight level 290,
20
MALE SPEAKER 5:
He made?
21
MALE SPEAKER 4:
Some threat to the
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cockpit or a threat -MALE SPEAKER 5:
Oh, shit.
Let me get the
manager's approval. MALE SPEAKER 4:
-- in the cockpit.
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they're going to try to pull the tapes as quick as
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they can.
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MALE SPEAKER 5:
MALE SPEAKER 4 : |
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MALE SPEAKER 5:
All right.'
MALE SPEAKER 6:
Command center.
MALE SPEAKER 1:
Hi, Tony.
12
here -- I mean, Boston here.
13
TRACON?
15
Okay.
f*? & L fe
I'll
This is
Tony.
11
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|.
call you back.
9 10
Hey, Tom, where can I
reach you back, what number at?
6 8
I guess
MALE SPEAKER 6:
Command center
Could I get New York
You bet.
So nothing with
the cockpit?
16
MALE SPEAKER 1:
Yes, for the American 11.
17
MALE SPEAKER 6:
Say it again?
18
MALE SPEAKER 1:
Reference American 11.
19
MALE SPEAKER 6:
All right.
20
any contact with them yet?
21
MALE SPEAKER 1:
22
Nope.
No contact.
It
is a confirmed hijack though.
23
MALE SPEAKER 7: TRACON.
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MALE SPEAKER 1:
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Have you had
Center, good morning.
Hey TRACON, hi.
Boston
American 11, 757, possible
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hijack.
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MALE SPEAKER 7:
Okay.
American 11, 75,
and where's he landing?
4
MALE SPEAKER 1:
Right now we don't have
5
any idea, but he was northwest of Albany and now he's
6
down by Sparta, losing speed very rapidly.
7
believe the primary only and we believe he's on a
8
descent.
9
10
That's why he's -- he's going down. MALE SPEAKER 7:
I'm just trying to -- and
he's around the Sparta area now, you say?
11 12
We
MALE SPEAKER 1: Yeah, he's around the Sparta area right now.
13
MALE SPEAKER 7:
Wow, I just don't see
MALE SPEAKER 1:
He has the primary target
17
MALE SPEAKER 7:
Yeah, I'm looking pretty
18
hard for any kind of primary target.
19
be able to see it and I don't see --
14
anything.
15 16
right now.
20
MALE SPEAKER 6:
We still should
I do have something on
''LSD
21
the eSCLif that gives you an idea of where he's
22
heading.
23
MALE SPEAKER 7:
Yeah.
I'm just looking
24
at the real raw radar here and I just don't see -- I
25
just don't see anything out there.
I'll let the area
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know to start looking for it.
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MALE SPEAKER 1:
But you don't have any
3
idea what altitude -- last altitude we had was below
4
290, but his speed has diminished quite a bit.
5
MALE SPEAKER 7:
Okay.
6
MALE SPEAKER 1:
So we believe he might be
7
in a descent.
8 9
MALE SPEAKER 7:
Okay.
All righty.
I'll
pass it along to the sector.
10
MALE SPEAKER 1:
All right.
12
MALE SPEAKER 7:
Understand.
13
MALE SPEAKER 6:
Hey, Boston?
14
MALE SPEAKER 1:
Yes.
15
MALE SPEAKER 6:
You said you confirmed
11
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Just be
careful.
the hijack.
17
How did you -MALE SPEAKER 1:
Well, the -- what has
18
happened -- the pilot has kept the mike keyed while
19
the person's in the -- in the cockpit, stuff like
20
that.
21 22 23
MALE SPEAKER 6:
Okay.
And what are you
MALE SPEAKER 1:
The threat, you know -- I
hearing?
24
don't really know what they're hearing, but that the
25
sup come down and confirmed that it is a hijack.
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Okay.
If you learn
2
anything else, please give us a call so we can help
3
you out as best we can.
4
this guy heading there?
Does New York know about
5
MALE SPEAKER 1:
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knows, maybe Washington will be next.
7
to scramble for fighters, prepare them.
8
New York knows, Cleveland
MALE SPEAKER 6:
Okay.
10
MALE SPEAKER 1:
Yes.
11
MALE SPEAKER 6:
Okay.
9
We are going
Coming out of
Otis?
I'll take care of
12
the coordination with Washington center.
13
advise them of what's going on.
14
MALE SPEAKER 1:
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FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
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MALE SPEAKER 6:
I will
Thank you. Washington. Hi, Washington.
Tony
17
here in the east at the command center.
18
advisory for you, give you a heads up, there's an
19
American 11, it is a Boston to LAX flight.
20
FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
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MALE SPEAKER 6:
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Okay. It is a possible hijacked
airline.
23
FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
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MALE SPEAKER 6:
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I have an
Possible hijack.
Currently -- well, they
last -- when they lost radar with them, and they're
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trying to make primary target, he's northwest of New
2
York City, and we're -- the fact that he could be
3
headed towards Kennedy or one of New York's airports
4
is still at the flight levels that we believe.
5
got primary only (inaudible) . FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
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It's primary only right
now. MALE SPEAKER 6:
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We've
vJ£
But * just wanted to give
you a heads up if he continues on that southbound
9 10
track, he'll be heading towards your area, so right
11
now (inaudible) . . FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
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- - MALE SPEAKER 8:
FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
Hey, Wanda.
It's Marty.
Good.
How are you?
Good. Long time, no see. Yeah.
Hey, where's the
He's in a class.
What
do you need?
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Command Comm center, Wanda.
•^(inaudible J right now?
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I'll tell
How are you?
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All right.
MALE SPEAKER 8:
right now?
W h o ' s the
(/inaudibe)
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we have the standard ra i r nf^cps^.
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He's in a meeting, but
MALE SPEAKER 8:
what do you need?
Okay.
Do you know about
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telcom?
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MALE SPEAKER 8:
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
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No.
There's a telcom?
There's -- yeah, a
conference call about it right now.
10
MALE SPEAKER 8:
Okay.
Would somebody
11
bring New York Center up?
We're not in on it.
12
watching airplanes in our airspace. —"""
13
FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
*~\y
Yeah, there
14
(inaudible).
15
let me see.
16
I'll bring you in on here, okay?
I think Boston's on there.
Hold on,
Hey, we're going to tap this line, so
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MALE SPEAKER 8:
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
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J
We're
--SSS&. SPEAKER 9:
Thank you. Command center, Wanda.
Wanda, this is Jim
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McDonald, American Airlines flight dispatch.
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doing?
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How you
Okay. Hey -Are you (inaudible)?
No, not yet, not right
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Listen, is there any way you guys can change
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going out to CNN because they have a drop on it.
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We don't want this
FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Okay. supervisor.
Let me get the
Hold on.
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7
FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
Hello?
FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
Washington.
8
Okay.
Thank you. You still
there?
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Washington, this is Tony
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in the east.
12
actually now crashed into the World Trade Center.
13
you want to find CNN and take a look at that and find
14
out, but we now believe it is no longer in the air.
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We believe that the aircraft has
FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
If
All right,
thanks Tony.
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MALE SPEAKER 6:
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MALE SPEAKER 10:
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MALE SPEAKER 6:
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Oh my God.
^hl^/
Bye. Cleveland. Cleveland, this is Tony
in the east, reference American 11.
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MALE SPEAKER 6:
c~ -77
US'l / '/,
Yeah. We believe the aircraft
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has crashed into the World Trade Center in New York.
24
If you want to watch CNN, you can get the details
25
there.
It was just on there live.
We do not believe
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it is in the air anymore.
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Okay.
Thank you very much.
4 5
Oh my goodness.
MALE SPEAKER 6: Tony.
Command center east,
Command center. MALE SPEAKER 7:
TRACON traffic
management, Carl. FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
Hey, Wanda.
Did we
just do (inaudible)? MALE SPEAKER 7:
At this point right I
11
think they're just trying to ascertain what's really
12
going on before I really -- I don't even know how to
13
answer that question right now, Wanda.
14
now they're just trying to figure out what actually
15
occurred, what is going on, and what needs to be
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done, so it's going to be a few minutes before we
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kind of get that stuff out.
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
Okay.
So you're not
19
holding in the area (inaudible)?
20
got, the airplane is no longer intact?
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MALE SPEAKER 7:
As far as what you
Not at this point it
doesn't appear to be the case, no.
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
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I think right
Okay?
Airplane (inaudible)?
Not at this point it
doesn't appear to the be the case, no.
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Okay. Okay. All right. Thanks. Command center, Wanda. Command center east,
Tony. MALE SPEAKER 11:
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Boston.
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center.
I need New York.
Wanda, this is Toby in I've been shut off by the
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
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MALE SPEAKER 11:
(Inaudible)? No.
The overflight,
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traffic into New York center, they're not taking.
14
No, the overflight.
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
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MALE SPEAKER 11:
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
Okay.
I don't know if
you're going to get an answer or not. MALE SPEAKER 11:
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All traffic entering New
York center, they're not taking any hand-offs.
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Flight?
All right, well just -If there's anything
that we can do -MALE SPEAKER 11:
Just for your records,
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I'm totally going to stop going southbound into New
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York Center.
(Inaudible) Boston here.
I'm
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ground-stopped going into (inaudible).
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
Hey, New York?
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need to ground-stop (inaudible)?
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ground-stop anything going to and from New York?
5
Okay.
All right.
MALE SPEAKER 11:
7
FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
Okay. Okay.
There's Boston. All right.
Here
we go.
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MALE SPEAKER 11:
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
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MALE SPEAKER 11:
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
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So we should
Here we go.
6
8
Okay.
Do we
up.
Okay.
There's Boston.
Command center. Boston. Boston, you can move
You're already (inaudible).
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MALE SPEAKER 11:
Okay.
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BACKGROUND MALE:
Hey, we're watching the
16
news, man.
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It's the craziest thing I've ever seen. FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
Yeah, we'll ground-stop
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everything going to New York, through New York,
19
ground-stop anything that's got to go through New
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York center.
Upgrade to 1700.
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MALE SPEAKER 11:
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
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A possible accident,
multiple accidents.
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Raise it?
MALE SPEAKER 6:
Command center east,
Tony.
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on everything.
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the World Trade Center.
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There is a second plane that just hit
MALE SPEAKER 6:
Everything in New York.
Stop all departures out of the center please.
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We've put a ground-stop
FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
New York center, New
York TRACON, ground-stop.
8
MALE SPEAKER 12:
Memphis got it.
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MALE SPEAKER 13:
Houston got it.
10
FEMALE SPEAKER 3:
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12
MALE SPEAKER 6:
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Atlanta got it.
I'm sorry.
What did you
say, Wanda? FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
Ground-stop anything
15
from New York, New York center, New York TRACON,
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ground-stop.
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MALE SPEAKER 6:
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
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MALE SPEAKER 6:
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
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And the reason? (Inaudible). (Inaudible), right? You need to write a
(inaudible).
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MALE SPEAKER 6:
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
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MALE SPEAKER 6:
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MALE SPEAKER 14:
Okay. Okay? Thanks. New York center.
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Command center, Wanda. Hey, Wanda, just so
you know, we stopped all departures.
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
I know.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Okay.
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MALE SPEAKER 7:
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of ours.
Ronny?
Everything's
stopped at the airport?
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
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MALE SPEAKER 7:
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We stopped all
three centers up, Wanda.
Command center, Wanda. I need to three up --
This is Joe at TRACON.
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MALE SPEAKER 14:
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MALE SPEAKER 7:
New York center. Yeah, New York, I need
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you to stop all arrival traffic into New York
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metropolitan area.
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MALE SPEAKER 14:
Okay.
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MALE SPEAKER 11:
Boston center.
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MALE SPEAKER 7:
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that.
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Boston, I need you to
stop all traffic into the New York TRACON area.
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Stand by with
MALE SPEAKER 11:
Yeah.
We stopped
everything. FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
We've already done
that, TRACON.
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Thank you.
We did everybody. Thank you. Okay. Wanda, New York center's
at ATC 0.
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
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Okay.
Say again? ATC 0 for New York
center.
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MALE SPEAKER 11:
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
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with New York.
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(inaudible) --
15
All right. Boston center. Hey Boston, (inaudible)
You need to -- this airport
MALE SPEAKER 11:
Right now, I don't have
16
-- severe weather (inaudible) picking up and we're
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just rebooting over Syracuse to avoid New York center
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airspace.
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
And he's going
to go around New York?
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MALE SPEAKER 11:
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
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don't need to call.
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weather?
25
Okay.
Yes. Okay.
All right.
You're working that severe
MALE SPEAKER 11:
Yes.
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Okay.
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
Command center, Wanda.
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MALE SPEAKER 15:
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This is Dulles.
Bye.
Have we
stopped everything to New York?
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
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MALE SPEAKER 6:
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All right.
Yes. Command center east,
Tony.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
9
MALE SPEAKER 6:
(Inaudible).
Stand by.
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MALE SPEAKER 16:
Andy (inaudible).
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MALE SPEAKER 17:
Hey, Andy, Atlanta.
12
Detroit, I'm getting some delays, 20 and 30 minutes
13
off the ground because (inaudible).
14
if I could off-load a couple en routes south of
15
Collyer, northwest 437.
16
44 over (inaudible).
17
I was wondering
It's currently
(inaudible)
MALE SPEAKER 16:
Yes.
19
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Command center, Rob.
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MALE SPEAKER 19:
Rob, Steve in Philly.
18
Both those are
good.
21
Can you bring up Washington?
I got a guy we're going
22
to send over to Greensboro from Woodstown and it's
23
not the normal route.
I got to get approval.
24
MALE SPEAKER 18:
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
Okay. Command center, Wanda.
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from Cleveland.
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center is ATC 0.
I just need to confirm, New York
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
5
MALE SPEAKER 10:
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Hey, it's Pat calling
Yes, it is. Okay.
Thank you very
much
7
FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
All right.
8
FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
Washington.
9
MALE SPEAKER 19:
Washington, Philly.
I
10
have a Chautauqua 4805 going to Greensboro.
11
to put him over Woodstown since New York is -- all
12
traffic to New York is stopped.
13
that?
14
FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
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MALE SPEAKER 19:
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in.
I'd like
If you could approve
That's good. Okay, and it's already
Thanks.
17
FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
18
MALE SPEAKER 19:
Thanks.
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MALE SPEAKER 18:
Command center.
MALE SPEAKER 19:
Rob, this is Philly.
20
Uh-huh.
This is
Rob.
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need Baltimore this time, please.
23
up?
I
Can you bring them
24
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Hold on.
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MALE SPEAKER 20:
Baltimore.
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Baltimore,
Philly here.
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New York center stopped everything because of what
3
happened, and I'd like to know if I can get a route
4
to Las Vegas and one to St. Louis through you if we
5
do the --
6
MALE SPEAKER 20:
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you up.
8
second.
Let me have TRACON pick
I think they will be able to, but hold on a
9
MALE SPEAKER 19:
Thanks.
10
MALE SPEAKER 20:
Hey, Philly, this is
11
Baltimore.
12
MALE SPEAKER 19: Baltimore.
13
MALE SPEAKER 20:
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routes you normally do.
15
MALE SPEAKER 19:
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problem.
17
anymore.
18 19 20
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Just put him on swap
Well, because that's the
We don't have the routes published up here
MALE SPEAKER 20:
What do you mean you
don't have them anymore? MALE SPEAKER 19:
Well, we had them, but
they're not here anymore. MALE SPEAKER 20:
All right.
23
let me -- you got a fax number?
24
to -- how many airplanes you got?
25
MALE SPEAKER 19:
Let me --
That might be easier
Well, for now it's just
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two.
2
for our push, but -- actually I got two more, yeah.
3
How about if I give you my fax number?
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MALE SPEAKER 20:
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Now, you know, later on, we're getting ready
Well, what do you got,
Washington center on here too?
6
MALE SPEAKER 19:
No, actually --
7
MALE SPEAKER 20:
Because (inaudible) into
8
New York center, they just cleared ATC 0.
9 10
MALE SPEAKER 19:
Okay.
I'm going to have
MALE SPEAKER 20:
You're going to have to
to -- okay.
11
12
do some more coordinating.
13
have to get you the routes and the traffic manager
14
will get a hold of you.
15
MALE SPEAKER 19:
I guess we're going to
Okay.
Well, can you get
16
those together, because yeah, I'll have to go through
17
Washington to see how many -- what they're going to
18
need from you guys, because we're in --
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MALE SPEAKER 20:
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(inaudible) right now of 15.
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Yeah, because we've got
MALE SPEAKER 19:
Right.
We're going to
MALE SPEAKER 20:
Let's see, Las Vegas.
be -I
can give you these two real quick. MALE SPEAKER 19:
Okay.
What do you got?
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(End of side 1.)
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
This is a
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continuation, position 14B, the command center, for
5
September 11.
6
13:15 Zulu.
7
8 9 10
This is tape 1, part 2, start time
MALE SPEAKER 19:
Right.
We're going to
MALE SPEAKER 20:
Let's see, Las Vegas.
be -I
can give you these two real quick.
11
MALE SPEAKER 19:
Okay.
What do you got?
12
Las Vegas, so it's Dupont 166, and --
13
MALE SPEAKER 20:
Las Vegas.
14
BACKGROUND MALE:
Did you run them through
15
the machine to see if he stopped on the transponder
16
showed a hijack?
17 18
BACKGROUND MALE:
I don't know.
I can do
a spread on him also.
19
BACKGROUND MALE:
Yeah, do that.
20
MALE SPEAKER 20:
All right, we got --
21
then after that, he'll be -- it really needs is --
22
what do you got, J-166, or Victor 166 relay.
23
MALE SPEAKER 19:
Okay.
24
MALE SPEAKER 20:
Baltimore, Linden, LDN
25
J-134, the Bravo Uniform Mike.
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Okay.
2
MALE SPEAKER 20:
J-110 to Boulder.
3
MALE SPEAKER 19:
Okay.
4
need.
5 6
That's all I
J-l -- you have FMN for Boulder? MALE SPEAKER 20:
No, BUM -- or J-100 to
Boulder, BLD.
7
MALE SPEAKER 19:
Okay.
8
MALE SPEAKER 20:
Correct Las Vegas.
9
MALE SPEAKER 19:
Okay.
10
And the St. Louis
one will be 166 (inaudible)?
11
MALE SPEAKER 20:
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what we got here.
All right.
13
it'll just be a sec.
St. Louis.
Let's see
St. Louis.
14
MALE SPEAKER 19:
Okay.
15
MALE SPEAKER 20:
Here it is.
Hang on,
Okay.
We
16
got -- let's send him out over, it'll be Linden, same
17
route to get to Linden.
18
MALE SPEAKER 19:
Okay.
19
MALE SPEAKER 20:
J-134, Falmouth, which
21
MALE SPEAKER 19:
Okay.
22
MALE SPEAKER 20:
Direct pocket city,
20
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is FLM.
which is PXV.
24
MALE SPEAKER 19:
Okay.
25
MALE SPEAKER 20:
Cueball for arrival, St.
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MALE SPEAKER 19:
Cueball to St. Louis.
3
MALE SPEAKER 20:
Q-b-a-1-l-b.
4
MALE SPEAKER 19:
Yeah, we got that.
5
Okay.
Okay, that's what I needed.
6 7
MALE SPEAKER 20: let us know.
8 9
MALE SPEAKER 19:
Send -- hold on -- John,
what's our fax number up here?
10 11
If you need four of them
MALE SPEAKER 20:
Well, I got -- it would
be like 50 pages of these routes I got, so.
12
MALE SPEAKER 19:
. And I'm
13
going to work through Washington to see what they're
14
going to need for you, and, you know, if we have to
15
-- even if we have tp do 20 in trail, you know, as
16
long as we can get some of these guys out.
17 18
MALE SPEAKER 20: again. |_
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MALE SPEAKER 19:.Q-- yeah, where the
20
heck did it go --...]
22
part.
23 / /'"' 24 25
Yeah, tell me the number
.,
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MALE SPEAKER 20:
Tell me the rest. ,,""""
MALE SPEAKER 19:
Okay. I
MALE SP.EAKER...20:
I'll right.
1. I'll have
office fax you up one of these route sheets.
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Okay.
2
MALE SPEAKER 20:
You know, i t ' s a big
3
document, like 50 pages.
4
5
MALE SPEAKER 19: Okay.
I appreciate it.
Thanks.
6
MALE SPEAKER 20:
See ya.
7
MALE SPEAKER 19:
Bye bye.
8
BACKGROUND FEMALE:
Do we need paper?
9
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Washington.
10
MALE SPEAKER 21:
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MALE SPEAKER 7:
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MALE SPEAKER 21:
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Williamsburg.
14
Stand by, please.
15
16
Stand by, please. TRACON, Joe. Stand by, please.
Stand by, please.
Has this already been done?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE:
You've reached the
administrative office of (inaudible).
17
MALE SPEAKER 21:
18
MALE SPEAKER 7:
Williamsburg. TRACON, disregard.
19
is the ATC 0 for New York center.
20
have that?
21
Williamsburg.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE:
This
Does everybody Please leave a
22
message after the tone and we'll get back to you as
23
soon as possible.
24
MALE SPEAKER 21:
Stand by, please.
25
MALE SPEAKER 18:
New York center is
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declaring -- this is the command center.
2
13:22 Zulu.
3
this time.
4
the New York center area needs to place to hold him
5
out, find a place to put him elsewhere.
Again, this
6
is the command center, time is 13:22 Z.
New York
7
center has declared ATC 0 at this time.
Command
8
center is out.
9 10
New York center has declared ATC 0 at Anybody that has any aircraft inbound to
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Round up all your
flights into the Washington metro area, please.
11 12
Time now is
FEMALE SPEAKER 4:
I'm sorry, ground-stop
which ones?
13
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Ground-stop all
14
flights to the Washington metro area, Dulles,
15
National, and Baltimore.
16
FEMALE SPEAKER 4:
17
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
18
FEMALE SPEAKER 4:
Okay.
We'll do it.
And UFA. Okay.
Thank you.
While I have you
19
20
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
21
sorry, I'm sorry, who's this?
22 23
FEMALE SPEAKER 4:
I'm
This is Cleveland
center.
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Who's this?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
I'm sorry.
center?
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
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FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
4
Yeah, Washington. Say again, Wash? You put me up.
What do
you need?
5
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Ground-stop all your
6
flights, well, everything ground-stop anyway to the
7
New York area.
You know about that, right?
8
FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
Yeah, till
9
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
1700.
Yeah, I'm just
10
ground-stop all -- right now, it's just been through
11
UFA, but we're ground-stopping everything into the DC
12
metro area also right now.
13
MALE SPEAKER 22:
Atlanta's got a
14
question.
15
metres, or will we be able to accommodate what's in
16
the air?
17
Are we going to have to hold the DC
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
They should be able to
18
help you with what's in the air.
19
should -- that shouldn't be a problem.
20
want everything ground-stopped, what's on the ground,
21
just keep it there for a while until we get
22
everything squared away here.
23
MALE SPEAKER 22:
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
25
FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
I believe they Right now I
Okay. All right. Okay.
Thank you.
You want us to
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
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FEMALE SPEAKER 4:
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FEMALE SPEAKER 4:
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Okay. All right.
Thank you.
Command center?
Command center?
7
9
Yes, please.
Command center's up. Yeah, we need Arthur to
call here at Cleveland center, if you could do that, please?
11
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Does he know the number?
12
FEMALE SPEAKER 4
13
MALE SPEAKER 18:
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FEMALE SPEAKER 4
Thank you.
15
MALE SPEAKER 23 :
LA approach.
16
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Hey, this is command
Yes, he does. Okay.
All right.
17
center.
We just put a ground-stop out for everything
18
going into the Washington metro area, so I know you
19
were trying to work a couple of deals with some guys
20
in the tower en route out to the west out there.
21
may have some difficulty and probably expect to hold
22
those guys on the ground.
23
MALE SPEAKER 23:
Okay.
24
MALE SPEAKER 18:
All right.
25
MALE SPEAKER 23:
Thanks.
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MALE SPEAKER 18:
Command center.
This is
MALE SPEAKER 19:
Rob, Steve in Philly.
Rob.
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Is there any idea for you to know how many diverts
5
we're going to be getting?
6 7
MALE SPEAKER 18:
It just depends on
who's out there and where they want to diver to.
8 9
No.
MALE SPEAKER 19:
Okay.
Now the other
problem is, New York center is 0, Washington just
10
stopped everything, so we have no departures, or we
11
can't depart.
12
we're getting ready for our, you know, the arrival
13
and departure push.
14
MALE SPEAKER 18:
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Okay.
16
actually --
17
Our gates are just about full because
I understand that.
So your diverts -- your diverts level is
MALE SPEAKER 19:
No, no, no, I'm not --
18
I'm not saying that.
19
there any way to know how long Washington is also
20
going to be stopped?
21 22 23
It's just that, you know, is
MALE SPEAKER 18:
No.
We don't -- there's
no way I could come up with an answer right no. MALE SPEAKER 19:
Now, is there, I guess,
24
because New York's not taking anything, and they're
25
-- they're holding all over the place.
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They're holding all over
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the place and they're trying to right now find out
3
what they're going to do with what they've got, yes.
4
La Guardia is landing, it's my understanding.
5
only place that's really closed is Newark, so --
The
6
MALE SPEAKER 19:
Oh, okay.
7
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Flights at Kennedy, as
8
far as I know, are still landing at this time, so
9
they may be able to get some traffic in those two
10
places.
11
MALE SPEAKER 19:
Okay.
12
MALE SPEAKER 18:
All right?
13
MALE SPEAKER 19:
I appreciate it.
14
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Okay.
15
MALE SPEAKER 19:
Thanks.
16
FEMALE SPEAKER 4 : Cleveland.
17
FEMALE SPEAKER 5:
Cleveland, it's Carla
18
on the east side.
Hey, I got a question for you.
19
Are you tracking an American 11 right now that just
20
crossed over the boundary?
21
FEMALE SPEAKER 4
22
MALE SPEAKER 20:
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FEMALE SPEAKER 5
24 25
No.
Baltimore. You don't have anything
on active radar? FEMALE SPEAKER 4:
No.
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FEMALE SPEAKER 5:
Okay.
Okay.
Thank
you.
3
MALE SPEAKER 20:
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
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MALE SPEAKER 20:
Ground-stopping
FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
Everything to
7
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
11
MALE SPEAKER 20:
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
13
FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
Okay. All right.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
16
FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
17
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
(Inaudible.) Hey WADS, Wanda.
Nobody departs? Nobody. No, I didn't get that.
FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
This is Wanda at
20
command center.
21
on, you need to ground-stop everything.
22
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Because of everything that's going
Everything?
No matter
where they're going?
24 25
Did
Who's this?
19
23
We got it.
you get the message nobody departs?
15
18
Nobody takes off.
everywhere.
10
14
All departures?
everything.
8 9
We just came out right?
FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
No matter where they're
going.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
2
FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
3
MALE SPEAKER 17:
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(Inaudible) control
FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
Hey, Atlanta, Wanda at
command center.
7
MALE SPEAKER 17:
8
FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
9
Thank you.
center.
5 6
All right.
Yes. Did you get the message
to stop everything?
10
MALE SPEAKER 17:
We have stopped all
11
departures destined all airports of Atlanta.
12
-- I think we have one more that has already taken
13
off, and actually, he didn't even make it, so we're
14
done.
15
FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
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MALE SPEAKER 17:
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
18 19
All right.
We had
Thanks.
Okay. Did you get the message
to ground-stop all your airplanes' departures? UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Yeah, we got Chicago
20
center, or I'm sorry, New York center, and then DC,
21
Baltimore, and Philly.
22 23
FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
No, ground-stop
everything.
24
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
25
FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
Okay.
Bye.
Nobody departs.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
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MALE SPEAKER 24:
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
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command center.
5
airplane. MALE SPEAKER 24:
7
FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
8
MALE SPEAKER 24:
9
FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
Charlotte. This is Wanda at
Okay.
We're going to --
Nobody departs.
Okay.
We're going to --
Nobody is going
nowhere, zip, zero.
11 12
Bye.
We're ground-stopping every
6
10
Okay.
MALE SPEAKER 24:
Okay.
No airplanes in
the air.
13
FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
14
MALE SPEAKER 25:
15
I didn't catch all that.
16
traffic?
Thank you. This is Raleigh Durham.
You're ground-stopping all
17
FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
18
MALE SPEAKER 25: This is Raleigh Durham.
19
FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Yeah, Raleigh, this is
20 21
command center.
MALE SPEAKER 25:
Everything into the
system, regardless of where they're going, right?
24 25
Right now we're ground-stopping
everything.
22
23
Excuse me?
FEMALE SPEAKER 2:
Nobody departs,
nowhere.
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MALE SPEAKER 25: Thank you very much.
MALE SPEAKER 24: Charlotte got it, Wanda. ^/ < 0 \\ -"1 ^L^jyrWMiE STEAKBR—'18 : Boston, are J
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:
Say again?
Okay.
Stand by, please.
6
Okay.
It looks like I have everyone on here except
7
Boston center.
8
center, the NTMO on duty in the west area.
9
have all traffic management units do an inventory,
This is the air traffic command I need to
10
basically an inventory of all airborne traffic,
11
ensure that you do not have any unusual situations or
12
any aircraft that are not accounted for. If you have
13
any unusual situations or unaccounted-for aircraft,
14
identify them and contact us here at the command
15
center.
16
MALE SPEAKER 17:
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
18
MALE SPEAKER 18:
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
21
MALE SPEAKER 18:
25
Go ahead. What about the VFRs? I would think we would
primarily be concerned with commercial aircraft.
23
24
Hey, command center?
Command center?
19
22
Atlanta got it.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Okay.
All right.
Thanks. UNIDENTIFIED
FEMALE:
Okay, that first
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part of that statement was you just want --
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MALE SPEAKER 18:
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: -- unusual
4
I want --
situations, or you want a county of everything?
5
MALE SPEAKER 18:
No, I want -- I want --
6
I want specific information if there are any unusual
7
information involving commercial aircraft or any
8
missing aircraft, any targets that have dropped off,
9
anything of that nature.
10
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE:
11
MALE SPEAKER 23:
12 13 14
'^QP FEMALE SPEAKER 4:
Okay.
LA's got it. United 93 may have a
bomb on board. ^u^Jo'^^MALE SPEAKER 18:
Okay.
United 93.
Who's
•^/
15 16 17 18 19
speaking? ^ ff FEMALE SPEAKER 4: Cleveland center.
Q^/5 u
y£>^ XY^KMALE SPEAKER 18:
Okay, Cleveland.
What's
his origination and destination? ~~7 o
BACKGROUND FEMALE:
Out of Newark going to
20
San Francisco.
21
"2.6$
22
San Francisco.
23
actually he's farther than that.
24
Dreyer.
25
Dreyer.
FEMALE SPEAKER 4: Out of Newark going to His position is 20 -- 15 East -He's east of
His exact position is 30 miles east of
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Do you have a
transponder on this aircraft or did he go primary?
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Okay.
~"7i)/5 FEMALE SPEAKER 4:
At this time he's code '
5
1527 and we still have a transponder. f^a^~jv jrLI
6
me any additional information as to why you believe
7
there may be a bomb?
8 9 10
11 12 13
14
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FEMALE SPEAKER 4:
4(jv+~> firf^^ MALE SPEAKER 18:
you.
Anyone else?
Okay.
Very good.
Thank
All right, I'm disconnecting now.
/^^^TTNIDENTIFIED MALE: //O>X MALE SPEAKER 18:
Hello? (Inaudible) where I
asked about any suspicious aircraft? UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
16
MALE SPEAKER 18:
someone.
Yeah. Okay, I was -- I missed
I thought it was you.
18
19
Because he's screaming
that on the frequency.
15
17
Q
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Okay. No.
Thanks a lot.
That was Boston
you missed.
20
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Oh.
Command center.
21
MALE SPEAKER 25:
Command center.
I've got a question for you.
This is
22
Raleigh.
I know we had
23
a restriction not to put anything in the system.
24
MALE SPEAKER 18:
That's correct.
25
MALE SPEAKER 25:
What I transferred that
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as there will be no air traffic clears to anybody,
2
VFR or airborne.
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Is that correct?
«A)^MALE SPEAKER 4A:
That's correct.
v^ r-,-:L~
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v'MALE SPEAKER 25: Thank you.
6 7
MALE SPEAKER 18: center.
All right.
Command
This is Rob.
8 9
T h a t ' s appreciated.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Hey, Rob.
Reference
traffic we're getting South American northbound.
Are
10
we to let them fly or would you prefer we put them on
11
the ground somewhere down here?
12
MALE SPEAKER 18:
13
ground somewhere.
14
ground.
15 16
They need to be on the
They need to divert or get on the
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Okay.
let them --
17
MALE SPEAKER 18:
18
else in the system coming around here.
19 20
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
BACKGROUND MALE:
22
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
24 25
They don't want anybody
Okay.
Hold on a
second.
21
23
So we're not to
American 1394. I have American -- we
got American 1394. BACKGROUND MALE:
Took off from Miami
heading to --
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Disregard
all that.
3
MALE SPEAKER 18:
4
All right.
Okay.
You okay with
that?
5
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Yeah.
6
MALE SPEAKER 18:
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
8
MALE SPEAKER 18:
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
All right. Okay. I'll tell them. All right.
10
MALE SPEAKER 26:
Toronto team, Dan.
11
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Toronto, Dan, command
12
center.
How you doing?
We'd like to ground-stop
13
everything out of Canada to the US, okay?
14
MALE SPEAKER 26:
Yeah, we're doing it.
15
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Okay.
17
MALE SPEAKER 26:
Okay.
18
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Thanks.
19
MALE SPEAKER 26:
All right.
20
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Command center.
21
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
(Inaudible) USA
for now.
16
Hey, I got a
22
Patterson, an evac flight,
23
| [ wanting to depart, go to JFK 120 at 56 Radio for
24 25
> 9/11
this -- presidential support aircraft. . M A L E SPEAKER 18:
He's presidential
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support, you say?
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: tower said.
4 5
He said NAOC presidential support. MALE SPEAKER 18:
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
7
to release this guy or not.
8
^JCMALE SPEAKER %S>:
10
I tell you what.
I
think that --
6
9
That's what Patterson
I don't know whether
I don't know either
because you got everybody -- everybody in the whole country's ground-stopped right now.
11
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
I know.
That's what I
12
told him and he said he -- the guy said he needed to
13
go and go to the JFK 120 at 56.
14 15
MALE SPEAKER 18: it?
16 17
What type of airplane is
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: E-4.
18
MALE SPEAKER 18:
19
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
20
MALE SPEAKER 18:
E-4, I think he said,
He said he was
presidential support?
23
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
24
MALE SPEAKER 18:
25
E-4?
yeah.
21 22
Oh, shoot, E-6, ft- 4,
what.
That's what he said. Okay.
I'll tell you
We're going to have someone call up in that
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one, maybe the Pentagon or something like that.
2
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
That would probably be
3
-- because I don't think Cleveland's going to take
4
him from us without us --
5
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Yeah, and I'm not even
6
- - I ' l l tell you what, let me talk to my supervisor.
7
I kind of doubt if --
8
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
9
back.
10
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Steve, and you're
(inaudrble), Steve?
12
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
13
MALE SPEAKER 18:
14
And he's right now
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
17
MALE SPEAKER 18:
18
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
19
MALE SPEAKER 18:
20
JFK 120 at 56? Yes. All right.
And he's
presidential security?
21
MALE SPEAKER 19:
Actually says |
j
23.
25
Patterson JFK 120 at
56.
16
24
Yeah.
Patterson to -- to where?
15
22
Just call me
This is Steve. i
11
Okay.
MALE SPEAKER 18:;
I :;::::UNIDENTIFIED
MALE:
Yeah.
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MALE SPEAKER 18:
Bye.
2
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Thanks.
3
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Hey, Cleveland/ we got
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Okay, we just lost the
4 5
6
transponder -- the transponder on United 93 .
7
reversed direction to the eastbound. He (inaudible)
8
west of (inaudible) at this time.
9
10
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Okay, thanks.
He has
When
was the last communication we had with him?
11
MALE SPEAKER 27:
Indy.
12
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Indy, this is command
13
center on VD36.
14
MALE SPEAKER 27:
On who?
15
MALE SPEAKER 18:
VD36, did you call about
17
MALE SPEAKER 27:
Okay.
18
^j^^MALE SPEAKER 3*8:
16
him? What about him?
All right.
We are not
19
going to allow that guy to depart.
20
have to get some further -- he's going to have to go
21
up the line and have him call back here.
22
MALE SPEAKER 27:
You're going to
All right.
While I'm
23
talking -- all right, he's not going to be able to
24
depart.
25
MALE SPEAKER 18:
You'll have to get your
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(inaudible) from somebody that (inaudible) and have
2
him call back to the command center.
3
MALE SPEAKER 27:
While I'm talking to
4
you, TWA 166 is turning around and said his company
5
told him to go back where he came from.
6
he's off the St. Louis en route to DCA. He is
7
turning around to go back to St. Louis.
8
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Okay.
9
MALE SPEAKER 27:
All right?
10
I believe
And that's
all we know so far.
11
MALE SPEAKER 18
All right.
12
MALE SPEAKER 27
All right.
13
MALE SPEAKER 18
Company told him that?
14
MALE SPEAKER 27
That's what he said.
15
MALE SPEAKER 18
Thank you.
16
MALE SPEAKER 27
Yep.
17
MALE SPEAKER 10
This is Cleveland
18
center.
Who's up?
19
UNIDENXXFTJSD MALE:
20
with about five or six people listening.
21
MALE SPEAKER 10:
It is command center
(Inaudible) if we have
22
any military escorts or not?
23
We'd like to be able to track this guy so we know
24
he's not (inaudible).
25
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Are we pursuing that?
Command center, this is
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Rob.
2
MALE SPEAKER 28:
Essentially we got a --
3
just so you know, we're just about complete with our
4
relocation.
5
TRACON and we'll be at our alternative site at the US
6
Air terminal.
7 8
We've delegated our airspace to the
MALE SPEAKER 18:
As soon as you get a
phone number we can get all these.
Let us know.
9
MALE SPEAKER 28:
Yep, will do.
10
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Thanks. Command center,
11
this is Rob.
12
MALE SPEAKER 28:
13
Guardia here.
14
us.
Command center, La
Here's a number to get in contact with
15
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Go ahead.
16
MALE SPEAKER 28:
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MALE SPEAKER 18:
18
MALE SPEAKER 28:
19
MALE SPEAKER 18:
20
MALE SPEAKER 28:
21
MALE SPEAKER 18:
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MALE SPEAKER 28:/
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MALE SPEAKER 18?
24
MALE SPEAKER 28-
Okay?
25
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Who is this?
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This is La Guardia
LMALE MALE MALE MALE MALE MALE MALE
Give me your initials.
tower
3
4 5 6 7 8 9
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MALE SPEAKER 7:
11
MALE SPEAKER 18:
12
A couple of questions.
13
traffic and landing there?
14
MALE SPEAKER 7:
15
MALE SPEAKER 18:
16
MALE SPEAKER 7:
17
Hector Zulu. Thank you. And yours? RG. Thank you. Thank you. TRACON. TRACON, command center.
JFK, are you still taking
No. And --
No.
Everything in
November 90 is shut down. MALE SPEAKER 18:
18
And nobody's -- okay, so
19
you're not taking anybody at any of the airports
20
right now?
21
MALE SPEAKER 7:
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MALE SPEAKER 18
23
MALE SPEAKER 7:
24
MALE SPEAKER 18:
25
No.
Is that correct? Right.
Stuff that's airborne,
are you trying to get them divert and take off
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MALE SPEAKER 7:
We're not working any
3
airplanes right in the room right now.
4
what the centers are -- surrounding centers are
5
doing.
6 7
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Thank you very
much.
8 9
Okay.
I don't know
MALE SPEAKER 7:
All right.
You're
welcome.
10
MALE SPEAKER 10:
Command center,
12
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Go ahead.
13
MALE SPEAKER 10:
Do we consider this
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Stand by.
As secure as
All right.
Stand by.
11
14
Cleveland.
secure?
15 16
we have in the building.
17
MALE SPEAKER 10:
18
Okay.
We've talked to Pittsburgh and we believe they
19
just evacuated due to the fact that the United jet
20
was going right over top of their facility at the
21
time as best we knew.
So that's the issue there.
22
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Okay.
23
MALE SPEAKER 10:
The only other issue
24
then is just that we did have reported military
25
activity in the -- I'll leave it at that.
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Is there anything else
we need to know?
3
MALE SPEAKER 10:
Well, the pilot of the
4
Delta, we're talking to him, he's presently telling
5
us that he's going into Cleveland, so we're getting a
6
little bit of contradictory reports.
7
they're saying now that he's not -- the pilot is
8
saying that he is not a trip flight, but we're just
9
not 100 percent sure because there's been some
Okay.
And
10
inconsistencies, but he is -- he is -- all right, and
11
we'd like someone in Delta company to confirm for us
12
the company -- he's saying company told him that he
13
was not -- that he was just going to Cleveland for a
14
precautionary measure, because we're not sure.
15 16
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Command center.
This is
Rob.
17
MALE SPEAKER 7:
Hey Rob, Carl.
18
bring up Boston center for me, please?
19
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Sure.
20
MALE SPEAKER 11:
Boston center.
21
MALE SPEAKER 7:
Can you
Hold on, Carl.
Hey, Boston, TRACON here.
22
Reference Panta 55, it's over the top of Kennedy
23
right now.
24
someone we can talk to immediately in case we do
25
observe any other targets, and we're just trying to
We need to somehow have a focal point or
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ascertain on how we should go about doing that.
2
MALE SPEAKER 11:
Hold on, New York.
3
Okay, you were asking about what you want to do with
4
this fighter holding up over Kennedy in case there's
5
more suspicious aircraft, is that correct?
6
MALE SPEAKER 7:
7
MALE SPEAKER 11:
Correct. Hold on just a second.
8
I'm trying to talk to the boss on this.
9
still there?
10 11 12
13
MALE SPEAKER 7:
Yeah.
x,jy[ALE SPEAKER 11: Hang on a second. <x jj AV^^ UNIDENTIFIED MALE: More on United 93,
Cleveland?
14
MALE SPEAKER 10:
15
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
16 17
TRACON, you
I'm sorry.
Say again?
Anything more on
United 93? MALE SPEAKER 10:
No, we've talked to
18
Washington and showed them the primary that we
19
believe he is --
20
MALE SPEAKER 11: You're looking for a
21
point of contact to talk to about coordinating this
22
F-15, right?
23
MALE SPEAKER 7:
24
MALE SPEAKER 11:
25
the hotline?
That's correct. How about if we set up
Will that work for you?
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MALE SPEAKER 11:
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Uh -The -- the New York
TRACON hotline? MALE SPEAKER 7:
No.
I just think if we
5
had -- if we had a number that we needed that the
6
line would stay open -- hang on one second.
7
one second, Boston.
8
MALE SPEAKER 11:
9
MALE SPEAKER 7:
Hang on
Sure, no problem. If we have a focal point
10
that if we do (inaudible) we're able to get a hold of
11
immediately, they want to know should just do it on
12
the hotline --
13
UNIDENTIF^-BD MALE:
Delta Airlines advised
14
that their Delta 1989 is going into Cleveland as a
15
precautionary measure and is not a trip flight.
16 17
BACKGROUND MALE:
Ask them if they're able
to man the hotline, we'll do it on the hotline.
18
MALE SPEAKER 7:
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MALE SPEAKER 11:
20
MALE SPEAKER 7:
Hey Boston? We're still here. Are you guys -- if you
21
guys are able to -- if you guys are able to man the
22
hotline, we'll do it on the hotline then.
23
MALE SPEAKER 11:
Okay.
We'll come up on
24
the hotline just as a focal point for any kind of
25
coordination to be done with anything like that, all
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MALE SPEAKER 7:
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MALE SPEAKER 11:
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MALE SPEAKER 7:
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MALE SPEAKER 10:
Okay.
Very good.
No problem. Thanks. And command center is
6
still in there, give us a decision if they want us to
7
do anything at Cleveland when this Delta lands.
8
^f^y^UiregETfTIF-IED-MftLE:
9
MALE SPEAKER 10:
Stand by. And command center, I
10
know my chief's talking to some people on the other
11
line, but just so you know, we have an unconfirmed
12
report from a VFR. He believes he saw the United
13
down low around 7,500 feet.
14 15
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
18
The
location of that, please?
16 17
Thank you.
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Command center, this is
MALE SPEAKER 19:
Command center, Philly.
Rob.
19
We need to know if the withholding of departure
20
clearances to VFR and IFR also apply to military.
21
MALE SPEAKER 18:
They're going to have to
22
-- the military's going to have to verify through the
23
Defense Department.
24
and find a way to come back through.
25
-- I'm not giving it you.
They're going to have to go back I'm not taking
You're -- they're going to
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have to go through their next level up and come back
2
through the command center to get that.
3
MALE SPEAKER 19:
Okay.
4
MALE SPEAKER 18:
So, yes, it does apply.
5
MALE SPEAKER 19:
All right.
6
1°^
UNIDENTIFIED-MALE:
Thanks.
All right, the Indian
7
Head 174 at 11 miles is that I'm being told turning
8
eastbound and we're fairly confirmed at 8,000 by a
9
VFR.
10 11
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Thank you.
That's --
you're still showing that -- okay, got it.
12
f\§^ \3m£ENTnji^LE&--tfKtt-.
Okay.
If you want my
13
longs, let me know, we can try to get them.
14
United 93, they now say is northwestbound.
15
that the VFR is -- does see him.
16
he's waving his wings.
17
anything, that means or has to do with anything.
18
Okay.
19
about a 80 heading, erratic, a little bit of an
20
erratic heading.
21
22 23 24 25
And the They say
It's confirmed, and
We're not sure what, if
He -- he's back towards the east now, I'd say
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Command center, this is
Rob. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: helpline established.
Hi, Rob.
We have the
It's at New York TRACON.
MALE SPEAKER 18:
We're up -- we're up on
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tOO.
2
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Okay.
And it now
3
appears United 93 is turning back towards the
4
southeast again.
5
guess I would say in a holding pattern, but not
6
progressing in any one direction here.
Really right now we're kind of, I
7
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Okay.
8
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Just as a heads up, we
9
believe that Delta's now talking to Cleveland
10
approach, and right now we're treating it as not a
11
hijacking.
12
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Thank you.
13
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Okay, the United has
14
now come up back on -- his transponder's up.
15
back on his original code, 8200 feet.
16
17
^j^MAtE—S^EAEER_18 :
He's
Command center, this is
Rob.
18
MALE SPEAKER 29:
Hello there.
Washington
19
approach.
20
anything above our airspace also.
21
is going to start shooting at anything in the air.
22 23 24 25
Make sure that the center does not have
MALE SPEAKER 18:
The Secret Service
Well, hold on a second.
Let's tell Washington center. MALE SPEAKER 29:
I'm telling you and I
got to get out of here.
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Are you abandoning the
MALE SPEAKER 29:
No, we're not.
2 3
4
get off this line.
I got to
The other ones are (inaudible).
5
FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
6
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Washington. Washington, I just got a
7
Washington approach control, DCA.
They said that if
8
there's anything above their airspace over there,
9
that the Secret Service is going to eeee-fire, so make
10
sure that the airspace in the Washington National
11
area anyway is clear.
12
FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
13
MALE SPEAKER 18:
14
He didn't say.
He just
said don't bring it over, so I don't know.
15
16
How high up?
FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
Okay.
Anything just
over the whole approach airspace or just --
17
MALE SPEAKER 18:
That's what they said.
18
That's -- this is what he told me and he just dived
19
off the line.
20
21
FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
Clear off --
clear --
22
23
Okay.
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Just around Washington
National.
24
FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
25
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Okay. He just said the Secret
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Service evidently is getting ready to -- anything
2
that moves up, there they're going to take it out.
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FEMALE SPEAKER 1:
Okay.
National (inaudible).
5
MALE SPEAKER 18:
6
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
7
And National --
All right.
Yeah.
So what do they want
me to -- to see if anyone in our airspace is missing?
8
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
If somebody meets that
10
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Okay.
11
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Hey, disregard the
9
criteria.
12
Northwest.
13
for looking.
14
^
V^>5\5
Hold on.
I guess we're okay on that one.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Thanks
Okay, and I believe we
Janojigfet the United, and let me give
16
Okay.
17
believe on about a 140 heading, and now we've lost
18
all radar on him.
19 20 21
He was 16 south of Johnstown VOR, JFT, and we
That's the United.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Okay.
Now that was
the guy who had his transponder back on, right? UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Yeah, it came on
22
briefly and then it went back off with the primary,
23
and now we've lost him completely.
24
working Cleveland approach.
25
they are going to treat him like a trip aircraft on
The Delta is
They've advised us that
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landing.
2
<"l ft'b UJf^BE^TIFIED MALE:
We have a report in
3
the vicinity of the United of black -- black smoke
4
here -- just, again, the position I had just gave
5
you, Johnstown was the last known position.
6
trying to see if we can get an ELT check.
7
-- okay, the last lat longs we have for the United
8
are 3951 North, 07846 West.
9
10
Okay.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Copy that, command
TTKLmENTXggBP~MMrE:
3951 North, 07846
And
center.
11 12
We're
West, last known position.
13
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Correct.
14
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Philly.
15
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Command center.
You
16
guys called earlier about some military traffic that
17
was trying to get a clearance out of there.
18
still trying to get out of there?
19
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
20
here.
21
traffic.
Are they
No, it wasn't out of
Trenton tower called about VFR military
22
MALE SPEAKER 18:
23
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Oh, okay, all right. And I talked with Navy
24
Willow Grove and they understand what the situation
25
is.
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MALE SPEAKER 18:
Okay.
Good enough.
Thanks.
3
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE:
4
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Okay. We do have a confirmed
5
of a downed aircraft.
We're passing the lat long to
6
the military now by a VFR in the vicinity where we
7
last had the United.
8
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
9
MALE SPEAKER 18:
10
Command center, this is
Rob.
11 12
Roger.
MALE SPEAKER 30: Yeah, are you in contact with the FBI?
13
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Not directly.
14
MALE SPEAKER 30:
Okay.
They're on the
15
phone right now.
16
to get a confirmation on a United 93, find out if
17
there are terrorists confirmed on board.
18
19
MALE SPEAKER 18:
back.
20
21
They want to find out -- they want
I'll have to call you
Who is this? MALE SPEAKER 30:
This is (inaudible)
north tower.
22
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Give me your initials.
23
MALE SPEAKER 30:
Sierra November.
24
MALE SPEAKER 18:
I'll get right back to
25
you.
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Tower.
2
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Who is this?
3
MALE SPEAKER 3o:
Sierra November.
4
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Okay.
5
the command center.
6
terrorists on board with knives.
7
8
Hello?
This is Rob at
It is confirmed they had three
MALE SPEAKER 30:
Three with knives.
MALE SPEAKER 18:
All right.
Okay.
9 10
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
11
and I can hang on for that if you like.
12
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
13
-- the Delta
lands,
I'll keep you on until
the Delta lands.
14
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Okay.
15
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Do you have the staff
16
to keep yourself right there?
17
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Yeah.
18
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Let's -- for now,
19
let's do that.
20
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
21
MALE SPEAKER 18:
22
23
Bye.
All right.
Command center, this is
Rob. MALE SPEAKER 7:
Hey, Rob, how you doing?
24
This is Bob (inaudible) at the TRACON.
You're not
25
doing too good, but what are you doing with all the
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internationals that are destined to Kennedy?
2
MALE SPEAKER 18:
They're all being
3
diverted as far as I know.
They will be taken over
4
to Canada and moved to Canada.
5
MALE SPEAKER 7:
6
MALE SPEAKER 18:
7
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
8
Okay, great.
Thank you.
Bye. Cleveland, what's the
status of Pittsburgh right now?
9
MALE SPEAKER 10:
Okay, they are back in
10
their tower, and they are pulling aircraft in to land
11
them.
12
count here of how many we have remaining to go in, if
13
you want to hold on, please.
14
back in the tower.
15
from us.
16
airspace on final waiting plan.
17 18
There were some holding.
Okay, Pittsburgh is
They've taken all the aircraft
They still have about four in their
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: ATCs.
We'll get you a
They're no longer
Got it.
19
MALE SPEAKER 10:
Correct.
20
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Okay.
We're -- we're
21
trying to garner a list of airplanes -- of aircraft
22
-- airports that are available to be used.
23
include Pittsburgh in that usable airport category?
24 25
MALE SPEAKER 10:
Shall we
Do you want us to ask
them or -- I mean, as far as I'm concerned, yet, but
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you want me to verify with them that they're going to
2
keep a crew available?
3
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
4
aircrafts, they're available.
5
MALE SPEAKER 10:
6
them right now, yeah.
7
right.
8 9
If they're taking
Yeah, they're taking
I would include them.
All
Delta 1989 is on the ground. UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Okay.
Thanks.
Stay
with me please.
10
MALE SPEAKER 10:
Okay.
They're taxiing
11
him away from the -- away from the terminal to an
12
isolated area.
13 14 15
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: second.
I was off for just a
What did you say? MALE SPEAKER 10:
They're taxiing the
16
Delta to an isolated area away from the terminal.
17
Okay, command center, heads up about Pittsburgh.
18
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
19
MALE SPEAKER 10:
Go. They say they are pretty
20
much saturated with aircraft.
They said they could
21
probably handle about six more arrivals if they're
22
diverts that need to go in there, but other than that
23
they're at capacity, so I don't know how you want to
24
consider that as far as them being available, but
25
they probably cannot hold more than about six more
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airplanes there on the ground.
2 3
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Stand by.
4
5
The number is six.
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Command center, this is
MALE SPEAKER 11:
Hey, Rob, Boston center
Rob.
6 7
here.
I got a question for you.
I know there was a
8
guide earlier about law enforcement aircraft.
9
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Yep.
10
MALE SPEAKER 11:
We got three Omaha
11
aircraft that need to get -- they just got recalled
12
from Burlington, Vermont down to Jacksonville,
13
Florida.
14
now but they want to know if we can let them go or
15
not, and we're just looking for guidance from you
16
guys.
17 18
And we're holding them on the ground right
MALE SPEAKER 18:
All right.
Three Omaha,
I need some call signs.
19
MALE SPEAKER 11:
Omaha 58.
20
MALE SPEAKER 18:
58.
21
MALE SPEAKER 11:
79.
22
MALE SPEAKER 18:
79.
23
MALE SPEAKER 11:
85.
24
MALE SPEAKER 18:
85.
25
MALE SPEAKER 11:
To Navy Jacks NIP.
And they are were?
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MALE SPEAKER 18:
They want to get to Navy
MALE SPEAKER 11:
That's where they want
Jacks?
3 4
to get to.
I told them to tell them that -- what you
5
guys said earlier, there's no guarantee they're going
6
to be able to get there once they get airborne.
7
MALE SPEAKER 18:
8
Where are they located now?
9
MALE SPEAKER 11:
I have to get -- yeah.
They're in Burlington,
10
Vermont right now, but I don't think they're even in
11
the plane yet, but they just came to the door saying,
12
look, we got recalled, we got to go.
13 14
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Tell them to hold on and
I'll get back with you.
15
MALE SPEAKER 11:
Okay.
Bye.
16
MALE SPEAKER 18:
Okay.
17
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
18
MALE SPEAKER 10:
19
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I questioned
Hey, Cleveland? Yeah.
20
Pittsburgh, but they have quite a few runways that
21
they could use to park (inaudible), right?
22
considering that option as well?
23
MALE SPEAKER 10:
Are they
I knew -- I did not know
24
that, but I will get back to you on that.
25
they just -- they called us unsolicited and gave us
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the information that basically that, you know, they
2
could only take six more, so I'm sure in an emergency
3
they could put them on the runways or something.
4
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
5
MALE SPEAKER 10:
6
Okay. I don't know how many
that would add up to.
7
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Hey, Cleveland?
8
MALE SPEAKER 10:
9
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Yeah. At Pittsburgh, when
10
you talk to them, let them know that we need them to
11
use the runways for parking and not to deny any
12
diverts if at all possible.
13
accommodate whoever needs to get in there, we need to
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use his runways.
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So whatever he can do to
MALE SPEAKER 10:
All right.
We'll pass
that along.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Thank you.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
Cleveland?
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MALE SPEAKER 10:
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along to a manager.
Just let me pass this
I'll get right to you.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
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MALE SPEAKER 18:
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Okay. Command center, this is
Rob.
MALE SPEAKER 7: off the hotline.
TRACON.
We got bumped
I'm trying to get back on.
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having very good success.
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MALE SPEAKER 18:
MALE SPEAKER 7:
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MALE SPEAKER 18:
All right. Let me know if you need
anything.
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MALE SPEAKER 7:
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
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The lines are
probably tied up now, that's the problem.
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Okay.
Okay. -- Boston center can't
find it still.
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MALE SPEAKER 10:
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE:
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MALE SPEAKER 11:
Boston center.
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MALE SPEAKER 18:
Boston center, command
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center.
Okay, hold on. Okay.
Thanks.
The Omahas are released.
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(End of side 2.)
Okay.
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