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September 09, 2008
The time is approximately 1242 hours. Speaking is Detective Timothy Hightower of the Louisville Metro Police Homicide Squad. This will be a taped statement in regards to case #08197. Today’s date is Tuesday, September the 9th, 2008. I am currently in the parking lot of PRP High School and in my vehicle. This will be a taped statement given by; first name of Charles, last name Mullennex. Um, Charles, if you would state your full name for the tape?
Mullennex
Charles Michael Mullennex.
Hightower
O.K. And Charles is a white male and how old are you, sir?
Mullennex
16.
Hightower
O.K. And what is your date of birth?
Mullennex Hightower
O.K. And what is your home address? x
Mullennex Hightower
Okay, is that in Louisville, Kentucky?
Mullennex
Yes sir.
Hightower
And what is the zip code?
Mullennex
40272.
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Hightower
…72. And what is your home telephone number?
Mullennex Hightower
O.K. This taped statement is being recorded. Does this meet with your approval?
Mullennex
Yes sir.
Hightower
O.K. I’m taking this statement in reference to the events that occurred on Wednesday, August the 20th of 2008 that occurred during PRP football practice. If you would, Charles, please describe to me the events on that Wednesday, August the 20th of 2008, from the beginning of football practice to the end of football practice?
Mullennex
I didn’t get to football practice until they were already on the field and had stretched, because I had to make up a test in my uh, Calculus class. I got out to the field around… I got to the locker room while they were walking to the field, so by the time I got changed and everything, they had been done stretching and I joined the warm-ups. I joined like individual period with them.
Hightower
O.K.
Mullennex
And it had had been a normal practice, we got a water break after individuals like always, individuals offense line we just do a bunch of drills and then after the water break we come back, and we run uh, inside period with the Dline and then after our inside period, we get another water break and after the water break we went to team period, which is where we run
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all of our plays. And that’s when nobody was getting to the huddle was, and uh Stinson was getting frustrated because he told us if wanted to get back to the huddle, we’d have to run so we ran. So I was back to the huddle, there was only me, the quarterback, and the center were in the huddle, and everybody else was walking back from water. So we said why not and we start running. Hightower
O.K. Now did you…
Mullennex
We’d just had a water break; correct, before we’d started running.
Hightower
Is that right? So how many water breaks were given individually or as a team?
Mullennex
3 water breaks.
Hightower
Was that individually or as a team?
Mullennex
Uh, that’s a team.
Hightower
A team. On Wednesday, August the 20th of 2008, how many water breaks did you take?
Mullennex
How many water breaks did I take?
Hightower
Yes.
Mullennex
3.
Hightower
3? After the last water break, what did practice consist of?
Mullennex
Running, conditioning.
Hightower
Conditioning?
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Mullennex
Yes sir.
Hightower
And why was the team running?
Mullennex
Sprints. Conditioning and uh, we weren’t getting back to the huddles so we needed to kind of like a punishment, but really not really, we needed it anyways.
Hightower
So it’s conditioning and because y’all weren’t getting back to the huddle?
Mullennex
Yeah. People were slacking. He had told us all week we needed to step it up and start running more where we’re going, and people were slacking and walking from place to place, and you’re not supposed to walk on the football field. I agree with that.
Hightower
How many sprints did your group run?
Mullennex
How many sprints did we run? I don’t remember a number, I lost count. I got out after 9 because he’d take certain people out who if he saw ‘em working really, really hard.
Hightower
Okay so were you running as a group or?
Mullennex
We’d run ‘em off or a lineman—one group would run theirs and then everyone else would run theirs.
Hightower
O.K. So you and what group were you in?
Mullennex
Lineman is mine. Yes sir.
Hightower
And you said how many sprints did your lineman run?
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Mullennex
They—they ran the whole time.
Hightower
O.K.
Mullennex
We ran until it was opened.
Hightower
You know how many? You don’t remember how many?
Mullennex
I have no clue. Not… I don’t think anyone remembers how many exactly.
Hightower
O.K.
Mullennex
I’ve never heard the total number before.
Hightower
How many sprints did you run before you took off your gear?
Mullennex
Before we took off our gear, I think we ran 6, and then we took our helmets off, and then 2 more and then we took our shoulder pads off, I believe.
Hightower
O.K. So you did 6 and then you took off your helmet, then you did 2 more?
Mullennex
Yes sir, I think so.
Hightower
And then you took off your shoulder pads and how many did you do then?
Mullennex
Uh, that’s when we lost count. After that I think we maybe 4 more, maybe. I don’t know.
Hightower
How long do you think the team was running the sprints?
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Mullennex
15—20 minutes… maybe 25 but I don’t… I don’t think that long.
Hightower
Did you or any of your teammates ask for water breaks…?
Mullennex
No.
Hightower
When running sprints?
Mullennex
No sir, which is smart to ask for water breaks.
Hightower
Did anybody try to get any water?
Mullennex
No sir.
Hightower
Did you or any of the teammates become ill while running the sprints?
Mullennex
I didn’t. After I got out I was over under the tree so I didn’t see anyone.
Hightower
O.K.
Mullennex
Except for Galloway and Max apparently.
Hightower
O.K. Did you see Galloway get ill?
Mullennex
I saw him coming off of the field.
Hightower
Okay, you saw him coming off the field?
Mullennex
Breathing heavily.
Hightower
Breathing heavily? O.K. Where did he go after…?
Mullennex
To the bench and they put ice on him and brought water to him.
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Hightower
Brought water to him?
Mullennex
Yes sir.
Hightower
Now what about Max, you said Max? What happened with Max?
Mullennex
Max, I didn’t see Max until after the running was totally over, and then I saw him and he was on two people like he had a arm over each person’s shoulder, and they’re helping him walk, and then he just fell and I ran over to him and tried to help him get up and then Stinson and all the coaches came over and took it— took over. They told us to go and stand with the rest of the team.
Hightower
O.K. So you were over under the tree?
Mullennex
Yes sir.
Hightower
You had already finished from what you’re saying; then you saw, saw Max come off the field?
Mullennex
Yes sir.
Hightower
Now did you see him come off the field on his own or was he…?
Mullennex
He had people helping him.
Hightower
Okay so when you saw him he had two people...?
Mullennex
Whenever I first saw Max after the running, he already had people helping him.
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Hightower
O.K. So you saw he had two uh, other teammates helping him?
Mullennex
Yes sir.
Hightower
And where did they bring him to?
Mullennex
They were taking him off of the field and he didn’t make it off the field like they couldn’t hold him anymore, so they laid him down.
Hightower
O.K.
Mullennex
And then I went over to try to help them pick him up.
Hightower
O.K.
Mullennex
And Stinson told us to get away because you’re not really suppose to touch people when they’re like that. You don’t know what could happen especially 16 year olds, too, and you don’t have any medical experience.
Hightower
O.K. So that’s it okay.
Mullennex
And then we went and got him, we made sure he got water and ice.
Hightower
Water and ice, okay sir. So Galloway is one that got ill during the running or was it after?
Mullennex
It was during.
Hightower
During?
Mullennex
Yes. He got off because he was running harder than we’ve ever seen him run before. So he got off and while he was he off, he was
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breathing heavely and that’s why he went to the hospital I guess. But they, I saw… I was sought when he was getting water after the running was over. Hightower
Um…
Mullennex
I was next to him while they were taking him to the water and making sure he was getting some. He was saying that he was fine.
Hightower
O.K. And Max, he also uh… it happened during the sprints that he got?
Mullennex
I don’t know because like I said I was—I was over under the tree…
Hightower
O.K.
Mullennex
… with a few others that had been told to sit out because we were running harder, and he said or like they were done with the sprints and they were all walking back, and then that’s when I saw Max.
Hightower
O.K.
Mullennex
When they were walking back.
Hightower
So you’re not sure when he… uh, when Max (inaudible)?
Mullennex
I’m not sure when.
Hightower
O.K.
Mullennex
Because I wasn’t next to him.
Hightower
O.K.
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Mullennex
Because we take up the whole side line so we run till this whole broad area, where people could be.
Hightower
And what are gasers?
Mullennex
Gasers?
Hightower
Gasers.
Mullennex
Gaseres are say this is the long way of the field; this is the short way of the field. We’ll lineup on the sidelines and then run to the short side of the field, the short width of the field, they’re back in their bank.
Hightower
O.K. What is one gasers?
Mullennex
Till they’re back there and back is one gasers.
Hightower
So that’s what… how many times is that?
Mullennex
Uh, 4… 4 time total for one.
Hightower
4, okay, 4 times total of one for gaser on that.
Mullennex
Around 200 yards I believe.
Hightower
During any practice this year, have you personally seen or heard any teammate being injured?
Mullennex
Other than that practice?
Hightower
Yes, any practice this year.
Mullennex
No sir.
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Hightower
What about anybody quitting the team?
Mullennex
Yes sir.
Hightower
Okay, who that you know quit the team?
Mullennex
On that day, David Engler quit the team but he came back the next Monday. And last year someone quit but he came back on, but I don’t… I’m trying to think, I don’t know when he quit other than people who just don’t show up because they’re slackers. Like Freshman who aren’t capable, I think, just quit the team.
Hightower
O.K. So David is one that you know and you said any other body that you know by their name that quit?
Mullennex
No sir. But he came right back. Yeah, I knew he would come back. He’s like that… he’s— he’s done it before.
Hightower
So he came back?
Mullennex
Yes sir. He’s back on the team.
Hightower
O.K. Has anyone influenced you in any way to withhold information or change any of the facts that actually occurred during that practice on Wednesday?
Mullennex
No sir, no sir.
Hightower
Is this statement the truth that you gave… that you have given me?
Mullennex
Yes sir.
Hightower
Do you have anything else to add to this
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statement that you have given me? Mullennex
No sir.
Hightower
I’d like to end the statement. approximately 1255 hours.
END OF STATEMENT File #08-197a-hightower-ie
The time is
The time is approximately 1242 hours. Speaking is Detective Timothy Hightower of the Louisville Metro Police Homicide Squad. This will be a taped statement in regards to case #08197. Today’s date is Tuesday, September the 9th, 2008. I am currently in the parking lot of PRP High School and in my vehicle. This will be a taped statement given by; first name of Charles, last name Mullennex. Um, Charles, if you would state your full name for the tape?
Mullennex
Charles Michael Mullennex.
Hightower
O.K. And Charles is a white male and how old are you, sir?
Mullennex
16.
Hightower
O.K. And what is your date of birth?
Mullennex Hightower
O.K. And what is your home address? x
Mullennex Hightower
Okay, is that in Louisville, Kentucky?
Mullennex
Yes sir.
Hightower
And what is the zip code?
Mullennex
40272.
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Hightower
…72. And what is your home telephone number?
Mullennex Hightower
O.K. This taped statement is being recorded. Does this meet with your approval?
Mullennex
Yes sir.
Hightower
O.K. I’m taking this statement in reference to the events that occurred on Wednesday, August the 20th of 2008 that occurred during PRP football practice. If you would, Charles, please describe to me the events on that Wednesday, August the 20th of 2008, from the beginning of football practice to the end of football practice?
Mullennex
I didn’t get to football practice until they were already on the field and had stretched, because I had to make up a test in my uh, Calculus class. I got out to the field around… I got to the locker room while they were walking to the field, so by the time I got changed and everything, they had been done stretching and I joined the warm-ups. I joined like individual period with them.
Hightower
O.K.
Mullennex
And it had had been a normal practice, we got a water break after individuals like always, individuals offense line we just do a bunch of drills and then after the water break we come back, and we run uh, inside period with the Dline and then after our inside period, we get another water break and after the water break we went to team period, which is where we run
Page 3 of 12 Statement: Charles Michael Mullennex 08-197a Date: September 09, 2008
all of our plays. And that’s when nobody was getting to the huddle was, and uh Stinson was getting frustrated because he told us if wanted to get back to the huddle, we’d have to run so we ran. So I was back to the huddle, there was only me, the quarterback, and the center were in the huddle, and everybody else was walking back from water. So we said why not and we start running. Hightower
O.K. Now did you…
Mullennex
We’d just had a water break; correct, before we’d started running.
Hightower
Is that right? So how many water breaks were given individually or as a team?
Mullennex
3 water breaks.
Hightower
Was that individually or as a team?
Mullennex
Uh, that’s a team.
Hightower
A team. On Wednesday, August the 20th of 2008, how many water breaks did you take?
Mullennex
How many water breaks did I take?
Hightower
Yes.
Mullennex
3.
Hightower
3? After the last water break, what did practice consist of?
Mullennex
Running, conditioning.
Hightower
Conditioning?
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Mullennex
Yes sir.
Hightower
And why was the team running?
Mullennex
Sprints. Conditioning and uh, we weren’t getting back to the huddles so we needed to kind of like a punishment, but really not really, we needed it anyways.
Hightower
So it’s conditioning and because y’all weren’t getting back to the huddle?
Mullennex
Yeah. People were slacking. He had told us all week we needed to step it up and start running more where we’re going, and people were slacking and walking from place to place, and you’re not supposed to walk on the football field. I agree with that.
Hightower
How many sprints did your group run?
Mullennex
How many sprints did we run? I don’t remember a number, I lost count. I got out after 9 because he’d take certain people out who if he saw ‘em working really, really hard.
Hightower
Okay so were you running as a group or?
Mullennex
We’d run ‘em off or a lineman—one group would run theirs and then everyone else would run theirs.
Hightower
O.K. So you and what group were you in?
Mullennex
Lineman is mine. Yes sir.
Hightower
And you said how many sprints did your lineman run?
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Mullennex
They—they ran the whole time.
Hightower
O.K.
Mullennex
We ran until it was opened.
Hightower
You know how many? You don’t remember how many?
Mullennex
I have no clue. Not… I don’t think anyone remembers how many exactly.
Hightower
O.K.
Mullennex
I’ve never heard the total number before.
Hightower
How many sprints did you run before you took off your gear?
Mullennex
Before we took off our gear, I think we ran 6, and then we took our helmets off, and then 2 more and then we took our shoulder pads off, I believe.
Hightower
O.K. So you did 6 and then you took off your helmet, then you did 2 more?
Mullennex
Yes sir, I think so.
Hightower
And then you took off your shoulder pads and how many did you do then?
Mullennex
Uh, that’s when we lost count. After that I think we maybe 4 more, maybe. I don’t know.
Hightower
How long do you think the team was running the sprints?
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Mullennex
15—20 minutes… maybe 25 but I don’t… I don’t think that long.
Hightower
Did you or any of your teammates ask for water breaks…?
Mullennex
No.
Hightower
When running sprints?
Mullennex
No sir, which is smart to ask for water breaks.
Hightower
Did anybody try to get any water?
Mullennex
No sir.
Hightower
Did you or any of the teammates become ill while running the sprints?
Mullennex
I didn’t. After I got out I was over under the tree so I didn’t see anyone.
Hightower
O.K.
Mullennex
Except for Galloway and Max apparently.
Hightower
O.K. Did you see Galloway get ill?
Mullennex
I saw him coming off of the field.
Hightower
Okay, you saw him coming off the field?
Mullennex
Breathing heavily.
Hightower
Breathing heavily? O.K. Where did he go after…?
Mullennex
To the bench and they put ice on him and brought water to him.
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Hightower
Brought water to him?
Mullennex
Yes sir.
Hightower
Now what about Max, you said Max? What happened with Max?
Mullennex
Max, I didn’t see Max until after the running was totally over, and then I saw him and he was on two people like he had a arm over each person’s shoulder, and they’re helping him walk, and then he just fell and I ran over to him and tried to help him get up and then Stinson and all the coaches came over and took it— took over. They told us to go and stand with the rest of the team.
Hightower
O.K. So you were over under the tree?
Mullennex
Yes sir.
Hightower
You had already finished from what you’re saying; then you saw, saw Max come off the field?
Mullennex
Yes sir.
Hightower
Now did you see him come off the field on his own or was he…?
Mullennex
He had people helping him.
Hightower
Okay so when you saw him he had two people...?
Mullennex
Whenever I first saw Max after the running, he already had people helping him.
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Hightower
O.K. So you saw he had two uh, other teammates helping him?
Mullennex
Yes sir.
Hightower
And where did they bring him to?
Mullennex
They were taking him off of the field and he didn’t make it off the field like they couldn’t hold him anymore, so they laid him down.
Hightower
O.K.
Mullennex
And then I went over to try to help them pick him up.
Hightower
O.K.
Mullennex
And Stinson told us to get away because you’re not really suppose to touch people when they’re like that. You don’t know what could happen especially 16 year olds, too, and you don’t have any medical experience.
Hightower
O.K. So that’s it okay.
Mullennex
And then we went and got him, we made sure he got water and ice.
Hightower
Water and ice, okay sir. So Galloway is one that got ill during the running or was it after?
Mullennex
It was during.
Hightower
During?
Mullennex
Yes. He got off because he was running harder than we’ve ever seen him run before. So he got off and while he was he off, he was
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breathing heavely and that’s why he went to the hospital I guess. But they, I saw… I was sought when he was getting water after the running was over. Hightower
Um…
Mullennex
I was next to him while they were taking him to the water and making sure he was getting some. He was saying that he was fine.
Hightower
O.K. And Max, he also uh… it happened during the sprints that he got?
Mullennex
I don’t know because like I said I was—I was over under the tree…
Hightower
O.K.
Mullennex
… with a few others that had been told to sit out because we were running harder, and he said or like they were done with the sprints and they were all walking back, and then that’s when I saw Max.
Hightower
O.K.
Mullennex
When they were walking back.
Hightower
So you’re not sure when he… uh, when Max (inaudible)?
Mullennex
I’m not sure when.
Hightower
O.K.
Mullennex
Because I wasn’t next to him.
Hightower
O.K.
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Mullennex
Because we take up the whole side line so we run till this whole broad area, where people could be.
Hightower
And what are gasers?
Mullennex
Gasers?
Hightower
Gasers.
Mullennex
Gaseres are say this is the long way of the field; this is the short way of the field. We’ll lineup on the sidelines and then run to the short side of the field, the short width of the field, they’re back in their bank.
Hightower
O.K. What is one gasers?
Mullennex
Till they’re back there and back is one gasers.
Hightower
So that’s what… how many times is that?
Mullennex
Uh, 4… 4 time total for one.
Hightower
4, okay, 4 times total of one for gaser on that.
Mullennex
Around 200 yards I believe.
Hightower
During any practice this year, have you personally seen or heard any teammate being injured?
Mullennex
Other than that practice?
Hightower
Yes, any practice this year.
Mullennex
No sir.
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Hightower
What about anybody quitting the team?
Mullennex
Yes sir.
Hightower
Okay, who that you know quit the team?
Mullennex
On that day, David Engler quit the team but he came back the next Monday. And last year someone quit but he came back on, but I don’t… I’m trying to think, I don’t know when he quit other than people who just don’t show up because they’re slackers. Like Freshman who aren’t capable, I think, just quit the team.
Hightower
O.K. So David is one that you know and you said any other body that you know by their name that quit?
Mullennex
No sir. But he came right back. Yeah, I knew he would come back. He’s like that… he’s— he’s done it before.
Hightower
So he came back?
Mullennex
Yes sir. He’s back on the team.
Hightower
O.K. Has anyone influenced you in any way to withhold information or change any of the facts that actually occurred during that practice on Wednesday?
Mullennex
No sir, no sir.
Hightower
Is this statement the truth that you gave… that you have given me?
Mullennex
Yes sir.
Hightower
Do you have anything else to add to this
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statement that you have given me? Mullennex
No sir.
Hightower
I’d like to end the statement. approximately 1255 hours.
END OF STATEMENT File #08-197a-hightower-ie
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