Conference 6th Feb

private conference held on 6th feb 2007 seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:39:47 pm): bade badai na karen, bade na bolen bol seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:40:10 pm): heera mukh se na kahe, lakh hamara mol !!! seeker5 (2/6/2007 10:40:22 pm): whats this/ seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:40:27 pm): topic will be started by ego seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:40:39 pm): this is doha of saint kabir ji seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:41:09 pm): he was a great mystic, most of the guru granth sahib is influenced by sant kabir ji ki bani seeker5 (2/6/2007 10:41:52 pm): hm seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:42:44 pm): in these lines, kabir ji explains the characterstic of masters seeker5 (2/6/2007 10:43:13 pm): hmm seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:43:24 pm): he says that a complete master wud never publicize himself seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:43:33 pm): neither he talks about his powers seeker5 (2/6/2007 10:44:06 pm): hmm yahoo! messenger (2/6/2007 10:44:52 pm): seeker6 has joined the conference. seeker6 (2/6/2007 10:44:59 pm): hey vipin seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:45:02 pm): they dont show magics or anything like that seeker2 (2/6/2007 10:45:09 pm): yuo seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:45:11 pm): they take care of their pupil in all forms seeker6 (2/6/2007 10:45:41 pm): wots the topic bhai? seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:45:46 pm): diamond never says that i am valuable seeker5 (2/6/2007 10:46:04 pm): hmm seeker5 (2/6/2007 10:46:05 pm): true seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:46:12 pm): its not that there is only one master.. there are several persons who ahve knowledge seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:46:20 pm): who can asnwer the most of queries seeker6 (2/6/2007 10:46:22 pm): who all of us are ther? seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:46:24 pm): but again they are not complete seeker6 (2/6/2007 10:46:27 pm): n wots the issue? seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:46:40 pm): simran / vipin/ krish/yogita/gaurav seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:46:45 pm): and seeker1 seeker6 (2/6/2007 10:47:04 pm): n topic? seeker2 (2/6/2007 10:47:07 pm): we r disscusin great mystic mr. kabir seeker5 (2/6/2007 10:47:12 pm): hmm seeker6 (2/6/2007 10:47:14 pm): i dun know no seeker1.. seeker6 (2/6/2007 10:47:20 pm): seeker2 (2/6/2007 10:47:29 pm): he he seeker6 (2/6/2007 10:47:30 pm): k.. seeker5 (2/6/2007 10:47:35 pm): bura jo dekhan mein chala.......bura na milia koi...jab dil khoja apna, mujse bura na koi.... seeker6 (2/6/2007 10:47:53 pm): jha kaam aye sui kha kare talwaari.. seeker6 (2/6/2007 10:48:06 pm): bingo! seeker6 (2/6/2007 10:48:32 pm): i ahve read him.. seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:48:34 pm): wait.. we need to understand the meanings of these as well seeker6 (2/6/2007 10:48:34 pm): a bit,. seeker6 (2/6/2007 10:48:43 pm): k. seeker2 (2/6/2007 10:48:48 pm): haan g seeker6 (2/6/2007 10:50:09 pm): i think he was pretty obvious.. seeker6 (2/6/2007 10:50:15 pm): i wot allhes said.. seeker5 (2/6/2007 10:50:17 pm): hmm seeker6 (2/6/2007 10:50:32 pm): no? seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:50:54 pm): sheetal shabad uchaariye, aham maniye nahi seeker6 (2/6/2007 10:51:11 pm): seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:51:14 pm): tera pritam tujh mien hai, dushman hbi tujh mahi seeker5 (2/6/2007 10:51:25 pm): hmm

seeker5 (2/6/2007 10:51:30 pm): i agree 100% seeker6 (2/6/2007 10:51:32 pm): yep.. seeker6 (2/6/2007 10:51:41 pm): this is wot u too always say.. seeker6 (2/6/2007 10:51:46 pm): god iswithin all. seeker6 (2/6/2007 10:51:51 pm): n mind too. seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:52:03 pm): means.. when we will kill our ego, we would find a whole new power in inner self seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:52:19 pm): until we have unconditional love for everyone we can do meditation seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:52:26 pm): and henceforth we cant get him inside seeker5 (2/6/2007 10:52:28 pm): hmm seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:52:35 pm): our greatest enemy is our mind seeker6 (2/6/2007 10:52:42 pm): i totally agree.. seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:52:50 pm): at stance mind is our frend too, but only when our soul is a ruler seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:52:54 pm): and mind is a slave seeker2 (2/6/2007 10:53:11 pm): hm seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:53:13 pm): so until we kill our enemy and make it our slave seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:53:26 pm): we cant find our pritam [ almighty] inside seeker5 (2/6/2007 10:54:03 pm): hmm seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:54:06 pm): khod khaad dharti sahe, koot kaat vanraay seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:54:17 pm): katu vachan sadhu sahe, aur se saha na jaye !!! seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:54:30 pm): again ... the need is to bring unconditional love in ourselves seeker5 (2/6/2007 10:54:32 pm): pls explain seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:54:39 pm): we have to implement this... not jst talk about it seeker2 (2/6/2007 10:54:50 pm): vanraay? seeker6 (2/6/2007 10:55:00 pm): only a somber can take all the crap rest give.. seeker6 (2/6/2007 10:55:06 pm): jungle. seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:55:06 pm): we dig this earth a lot, it never revert back.. seeker5 (2/6/2007 10:55:19 pm): i dont get it seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:55:25 pm): same with forests/trees.. we run axes on them.. but they dont do any harm to us seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:55:43 pm): similarly.. only a holy person has the ability to accept the harsh words of others seeker5 (2/6/2007 10:55:45 pm): hmm seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:55:58 pm): it is not possible for ordinary man seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:56:04 pm): so we have to become that holistic person seeker5 (2/6/2007 10:56:05 pm): hmm... seeker4 (2/6/2007 10:56:08 pm): correct seeker5 (2/6/2007 10:56:16 pm): i am getting the picture seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:56:25 pm): once a monk fell prey to chinese seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:56:34 pm): they treated him worse for 17 years seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:56:41 pm): once he had chance to run away.. seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:56:46 pm): he came back to india seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:57:01 pm): and when dalailama asked him that they had tortured u like animals seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:57:16 pm): what you thought at those times.. seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:57:21 pm): he said i was afraid few times seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:57:29 pm): lama asked afraid ..of what? seeker6 (2/6/2007 10:57:39 pm): k.. and? seeker2 (2/6/2007 10:57:47 pm): that my lov seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:57:57 pm): he said ..that if my compassion for jailor wud decrease seeker2 (2/6/2007 10:58:16 pm): hm seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:58:25 pm): see this is the characterstics we ahve to bring into ourselves seeker5 (2/6/2007 10:58:55 pm): i didnt get it....pls explain again seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:59:17 pm): well even the jailor tortured him to near to death several times seeker5 (2/6/2007 10:59:44 pm): u mean to say......that the monk left that place...so that he dont

develop any animosity against the jailor? seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:59:45 pm): but this monk - being a true monk - had only fdear - that kaheen uska pyar jailor ke liye kam na ho jaye seeker5 (2/6/2007 10:59:53 pm): hmm ok seeker5 (2/6/2007 10:59:59 pm): then i understood correct seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:00:01 pm): fear* seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:00:04 pm): seeker6 (2/6/2007 11:00:30 pm): seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:00:52 pm): i like mahatma gandhi for this reason........u c not too many ppl can stay calm at all times.. seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:01:01 pm): meetha sab koi khaat hai, vish hai laage deh seeker6 (2/6/2007 11:01:07 pm): hmm. seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:01:34 pm): neem na koi peevasi, sabe rog mit jaaye!! seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:01:49 pm): i agree. seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:02:36 pm): hmm pls explain seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:02:59 pm): we all are so involved in earthy affairs seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:03:09 pm): hmm seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:03:18 pm): that we have molded everything thing as per our ease seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:03:36 pm): hmm ..go on pls seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:03:57 pm): so what happens is we love to eat non-veg.. we love to be social drinker seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:04:13 pm): this is called meetha - means what our mind likes to do seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:04:13 pm): hmm seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:04:30 pm): i know seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:04:42 pm): but all this is resulting as poison for our soul seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:04:44 pm): our mind tries to find out reasons or excuses for all these things seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:04:55 pm): i agree seeker4 (2/6/2007 11:05:07 pm): i have to go. ll catch you all later seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:05:10 pm): to cure all ailments of body, juice of neem is needed seeker4 (2/6/2007 11:05:10 pm): bye seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:05:14 pm): ok bye seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:05:36 pm): but there are very very rare who can glugl juice of neem [ path of masters - meditation ] seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:05:46 pm): hmm seeker6 (2/6/2007 11:06:03 pm): i wiil also ask you to excuse me.. seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:06:05 pm): yes mind is very very powerful seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:06:16 pm): sure.. u are excused seeker6 (2/6/2007 11:06:19 pm): bhai i dont say i disaggree.. seeker6 (2/6/2007 11:06:26 pm): but i ahve my own doubts. seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:06:35 pm): doubts like ? seeker6 (2/6/2007 11:06:44 pm): which are sevrly confusing.. seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:06:45 pm): pls elaborate ur doubts.. seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:06:47 pm): brb.. 5 minutes seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:06:54 pm): k seeker6 (2/6/2007 11:07:06 pm): i need to also call it a night people.. seeker2 (2/6/2007 11:07:14 pm): sim u can ask seeker6 (2/6/2007 11:07:16 pm): have an early mornin tomm.. seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:07:19 pm): ok seeker6 (2/6/2007 11:07:24 pm): wot vipin? seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:07:32 pm): u there yogita ? seeker6 (2/6/2007 11:07:37 pm): .. k my doubts u mena? seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:07:39 pm): back seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:07:43 pm): k seeker2 (2/6/2007 11:07:46 pm): haan seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:07:58 pm): ya 9...what are your doubts seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:08:01 pm): mann ke bahu satrang hai, chin chin badle soy

seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:08:04 pm): i want to understat seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:08:12 pm): ek rang mein jo rahe, aisa birla hoy !! seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:08:31 pm): yogit will be back in few minutes seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:08:36 pm): ok seeker2 (2/6/2007 11:08:48 pm): koi naa u continue seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:08:58 pm): simi we will talk about those when u join next seeker2 (2/6/2007 11:09:03 pm): ham dee ko archive send kar den ge seeker6 (2/6/2007 11:11:21 pm): k nite people. yahoo! messenger (2/6/2007 11:11:24 pm): seeker6 has left the conference. seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:11:33 pm): ok seeker2 (2/6/2007 11:12:02 pm): bhai continue seeker3 (2/6/2007 11:12:25 pm): m back seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:13:05 pm): back seeker2 (2/6/2007 11:13:10 pm): nice to see u back seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:13:11 pm): ok seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:13:58 pm): anyone has questions? seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:14:14 pm): ya i wanted to know the doubts seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:14:26 pm): nine had some doubts seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:14:39 pm): nine had gone offline seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:14:50 pm): her name is simran seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:14:54 pm): when she comes next we will discuss seeker2 (2/6/2007 11:15:22 pm): wot abt 9 and 8?? seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:15:32 pm): mann ke bahu satrang hain, chin chin badle soy seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:15:42 pm): ek rang mein jo rahe, aisa birla hoy seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:15:48 pm): i think i heard someone ahd doubts seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:15:59 pm): again they are asking us to be strong enough that our mind cudnt rule us seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:16:07 pm): we have to paint it with single color seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:16:37 pm): lesser wishes, simple living seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:16:46 pm): simple living, pure thoughts seeker2 (2/6/2007 11:16:52 pm): hm seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:16:53 pm): hmm seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:16:59 pm): but how easy are these ? seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:17:05 pm): pure thoughts, loving heart seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:17:22 pm): loving heart, concentration seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:17:30 pm): concentration means meditation seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:17:45 pm): well until you try to implement you wud never come to know seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:17:55 pm): to taste the success you have to sit in exam seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:18:10 pm): hmm true seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:18:13 pm): very true seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:18:27 pm): is it possible to lengthen the time ? seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:18:28 pm): if we ask our parents to study for us and give the exam, we are not going to achieve the qualification seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:18:33 pm): strech i mean? seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:18:46 pm): well lengthen the time means - still mind is at work seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:18:58 pm): mind wants all arguements seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:18:59 pm): no..i mean the real time seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:19:02 pm): soul needs path seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:19:12 pm): i have noted one thing.. seeker2 (2/6/2007 11:19:13 pm): kal kare to aaj kar, aaj kare to ab seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:19:30 pm): yes here comes the answer - we are not sure of what happens next seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:19:39 pm): so why dont we do the advanced booking ? seeker2 (2/6/2007 11:19:52 pm): hm seeker2 (2/6/2007 11:20:04 pm): belive in now seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:20:11 pm): main meri jab jaayegi, tab aayegi aur

seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:20:15 pm): i felt that 24 hrs in a day to be preety long when i dont some meditation seeker2 (2/6/2007 11:20:18 pm): and enjoy evry moment of it seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:20:26 pm): jab ye nischal hoyega, tab pavega thor !! seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:20:35 pm): dont=do* seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:21:23 pm): brother until we kill our ego and desires seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:21:28 pm): nothing will change seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:21:30 pm): not even a bit seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:21:38 pm): mind is an active agent of evil seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:21:57 pm): u try to put it off... it gives u another thought seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:22:41 pm): but as a born human being can u really kill your ego ? seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:22:58 pm): i tried several times.. seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:23:08 pm): but i guess needs to work hard seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:23:11 pm): it isnt easy seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:23:15 pm): i am not saying its impossible seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:23:17 pm): well until you surrender it will be there seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:23:24 pm): see when you come to implementation seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:23:28 pm): it is very much possible seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:23:28 pm): everything is related to another seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:23:30 pm): seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:23:35 pm): yes seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:23:36 pm): so purity comes automatically seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:23:37 pm): i know seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:23:41 pm): everything is related seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:23:55 pm): even this body is related to soul.. seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:24:11 pm): and unless u can detach these 2 , u cant really kill your even the smallest of your ego seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:24:35 pm): see surrender means - you are care free seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:24:38 pm): he is taking care seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:24:43 pm): you cannot make any change seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:24:52 pm): you have only control on your karmas seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:24:59 pm): seeker1...tell me one thing seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:25:17 pm): is it important to get married ? seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:25:33 pm): personal wish seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:25:39 pm): noone asks you to get married seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:25:46 pm): noone stops you in getting married seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:25:47 pm): no its not about personal wish.. seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:25:54 pm): at one point theres karma.... seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:25:57 pm): theres dharma seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:26:02 pm): see seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:26:09 pm): every breath is making karma over here seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:26:11 pm): every thought seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:26:13 pm): then on other hand u have to kill your ego seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:26:29 pm): and at the end - ek ek soch ka hisaab dena hoga seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:26:35 pm): because though becomes our actions seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:26:47 pm): i agree that ek ek soch ka bhi hisab hota hai seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:27:00 pm): but karma has bigger role seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:27:31 pm): unless the soch transforms into physical self..ie karma...it looses its significance seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:27:51 pm): so getting married and if your question is about sex and other responsibilities - yes - masters say that living in this society and then daily practicing death [ meditation ] is the way seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:28:20 pm): it isnt easy... seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:28:34 pm): well brother - again we all know that it is not easy seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:28:34 pm): there are desires offcourse.....when u are born as an individual or human

seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:28:42 pm): but when we do .. it becomes like feather seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:28:47 pm): hmm seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:28:49 pm): he takes care of it seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:29:13 pm): we dont have to kill desires but we have to limit them seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:29:30 pm): hmm seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:29:53 pm): its very difficult to stay neutral seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:30:06 pm): and those who say marriage is not important seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:30:14 pm): so here goes the word 0 seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:30:26 pm): to love something is itself a desire seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:30:29 pm): parnari ki yaachna, jyun lehsun ki khaan seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:30:30 pm): i never said its not important seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:30:49 pm): kone baithe khaiye, pragat hoye nidaan!!! seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:31:12 pm): see there are lots of questions seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:31:13 pm): explain pls seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:31:26 pm): so until we get the whole concept in mind ...questions may keep on arising seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:31:34 pm): hmm seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:31:39 pm): true seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:31:46 pm): uska matlab tha seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:32:39 pm): if u wish for antisocial affairs, its like eating garlic seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:32:52 pm): even u commit all crimes and bad deeds in corner seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:33:11 pm): but when you meet masters - they smell garlic without even say anything seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:33:12 pm): seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:33:29 pm): hmm seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:33:43 pm): and here goes for a mind seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:33:57 pm): padha suna seekha sabhi, miti na sanshay shool seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:34:16 pm): kahe kabir kaso kahun. ye sab dukh ka mool !!! seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:34:17 pm): mean? seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:34:26 pm): means we learn , we hear seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:34:31 pm): we understand everything seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:34:44 pm): means he has provided us with all facilities to let us understand the wisdom seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:34:59 pm): but this mind keeps on arguing, and this is the reason of all sorrow seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:35:16 pm): hmm seeker2 (2/6/2007 11:35:42 pm): right seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:37:39 pm): vishay vasna ulajhkar, janam gavaaya baat seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:37:51 pm): hmm seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:37:59 pm): ab pachtavaa ka kare, nij karni kar yaad seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:38:22 pm): on the judgement day, soul cries seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:38:31 pm): hmm seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:38:35 pm): true seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:38:52 pm): kabir ji says, why didnt u understood all this when he made all possible arrangements to get you wisdom seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:39:13 pm): now crying afterwards is useless, soul has to suffer seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:39:19 pm): and it is not anyone else seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:39:23 pm): it is you only yahoo! messenger (2/6/2007 11:40:08 pm): seeker4 has joined the conference. seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:40:40 pm): i gotta go now....i got early morning wake up plus i am not too well health wise.. seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:41:00 pm): bye everyone seeker4 (2/6/2007 11:41:11 pm): bye seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:41:13 pm): bye take care seeker4 (2/6/2007 11:41:14 pm): good night seeker3 (2/6/2007 11:41:15 pm): bye...g'nite

yahoo! messenger (2/6/2007 11:41:22 pm): seeker5 has left the conference. seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:41:51 pm): guru kubhar shish kumbh hai, gadi gadi kadhe khot seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:42:04 pm): andar haath sanvaar de, baahar maare chot !!! seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:42:15 pm): written excellently for masters seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:42:32 pm): kabit ji says, guru is like kumhar who makes pots seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:42:47 pm): he takes out of impurities and stones out of pot seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:42:52 pm): and a disciple is pot seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:43:31 pm): as when he creates pots.. he keeps one hand inwards to give it a shape seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:43:46 pm): and one hand outside hits the outer body to make perfect seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:43:52 pm): similarly guru.. seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:44:13 pm): enligten our soul by being attached to us always in astral form seeker2 (2/6/2007 11:44:42 pm): hm seeker3 (2/6/2007 11:44:45 pm): .. seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:44:51 pm): and feorm outside they make us to be strong for all kind of issues/problems and they make it by saying their words seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:44:54 pm): instructions seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:45:40 pm): sheel shama tab upaje, alakh drishti jab hoy seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:45:56 pm): bin sheel panhuche naheen, laakh kathe jo koy seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:46:07 pm): bina guru ke gya possible naheen hai seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:46:26 pm): similarly.. jab tak wo hamen meditation ke through light tak lekar naheen jata seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:47:13 pm): tab tak laakh jatan kar maaro... kayi rish muni chale gaye par us highest planes tak naheen pohunch pata seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:47:38 pm): to bhaiya bina sampoorn guru ke gat naheen hai seeker3 (2/6/2007 11:48:01 pm): hmm.. seeker2 (2/6/2007 11:48:28 pm): seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:48:34 pm): kabira gyan bichar bin, hari dhondhan ko jaye seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:48:53 pm): tan mein triloki base, ab tak parkha naye seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:49:13 pm): without compelte knowledge we can keep trying to get to final destination seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:49:18 pm): it is not at all possible seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:49:26 pm): he lives inside of all of us seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:49:38 pm): but until we dont know that hwo to find it seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:49:48 pm): we can keep trying but nothing wud happen seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:50:06 pm): a complete master can give this wisdom that how to reach to higher planes. seeker4 (2/6/2007 11:50:33 pm): agar insan zindagi bhar upar wale ko sacche dil se bhagta rahe par koi guru na ho tab bhi he will not reach to final destination seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:51:18 pm): yes tab bhi naheen seeker4 (2/6/2007 11:51:20 pm): kalyug main to kaha jata hai ki zindagi bhar uparwale ka naam lo mukt ho jaoge seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:51:23 pm): sache dil se yaad kiya seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:51:25 pm): achaa kiya seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:51:43 pm): he wud take next birth and will be provided will all facilities to learn wisdom seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:52:05 pm): master knows that which soul is next and from where seeker3 (2/6/2007 11:53:03 pm): last line ka kya matlab hua seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:53:33 pm): each soul is destined for a master seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:54:02 pm): master knows that what soul has mark for him and thats why masters take care of him/her without even their knowledge seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:54:24 pm): kaami tare, kridhi taare, lobhi ki gati hoye seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:54:41 pm): salil bhakta sansar mein taarat na dekhya koy seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:55:05 pm): kabir ji kehte hain ki, kaami, krodhi and laalchi - master ye sab defect door kar dete hain seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:55:15 pm): aur unko paar laga dete hain

seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:55:30 pm): par sharab ka sevan karne wale ke liye koi gat naheen seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:56:49 pm): satguru mila jo janiye, gyan ujala hoye seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:57:01 pm): bhram ka bhanda todkar, rahe nirala hoye seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:57:31 pm): when our soul feels attraction we say ki master mil gaya seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:57:32 pm): no .. seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:57:56 pm): satuguru tab milta hai jab hamare andar gyan ka prakash ghoonjta hai seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:58:08 pm): hamare saare kab kyun kahan kho jate hain seeker2 (2/6/2007 11:58:09 pm): hm seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:58:32 pm): aur hame shanti prapt hoti hai...jo kisi padhe likhe vidwaan ko kabhi prapt naheen ho sakti seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:58:58 pm): bandhe ko bandhe mile, choote kaun uppaay seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:59:14 pm): jo mile nirbandh ko pal mein le chudaay seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:59:46 pm): this is a fact that today if we go to seek a master - humko disciples se jyaada guru milte hain seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:00:10 am): leking sampoorn guru ki talaash ek kathin preeksha hai seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:00:53 am): doori ka matlab ek hans hi samjha sakta hai.. kuen ka mendak to kuen ke barabar ki chalaan ko doori keh ke byan kar dega seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:01:20 am): to aise pe kya depend hona jiske khud ke haath bandhe hue hon seeker3 (2/7/2007 12:01:22 am): hm seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:01:25 am): wo humko kya paar lagayega seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:01:38 am): hm seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:01:49 am): hamen usko milna hai aur uska haath thamna hai jo humko yahan se sach mein le jayega seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:02:25 am): a perfect living master is very very hard to find seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:02:40 am): bhai um amazed ki aaapko ye saaare kabir g ke learn hain seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:02:56 am): no mere k yaad naheen hain seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:03:10 am): again .. mereko koi kitaabe pothiyaan padhne aur ratne ka shauk naheen hai seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:03:20 am): par matlab samajh mein ana chahiye seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:03:27 am): it is old wine in new bottle all the time seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:03:43 am): xactly seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:03:46 am): no matter watever the instrument we play - same music will come out seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:03:56 am): same case seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:04:02 am): we see lots of examples seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:04:11 am): so that we can better understand these parables seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:04:55 am): bhai aapko abhi kisi guru ki pukkar aaie kya..... abhi tak seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:04:56 am): dekho chahe hum ek line padhe, ek page padhen ya poori kitaab padhen seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:04:57 am): ? seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:05:16 am): har line ka matlab same hain seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:05:25 am): now it depends on us how much time we take seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:05:26 am): meaning and destination is same seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:05:39 am): bhai aapko abhi kisi guru ki pukkar aaie kya..... abhi tak seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:05:41 am): ? seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:06:09 am): i tadap agar in lafzon mein naheen hai to mere aanson mein bhi naheen hain seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:06:15 am): jo apne aap girte rehte hain seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:06:38 am): meri testing chal rahi hai seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:06:43 am): ooo seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:06:52 am): bekaar purze ko wo apni factory mein kaise use kar lenge seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:06:57 am): quality testing chal rahi hai

seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:07:05 am): oops seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:07:10 am): gud luck seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:07:18 am): luck bhi usi ka banaya hua hai seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:07:21 am): we too coming for r seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:07:25 am): refinement seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:07:42 am): doctor sleeping ? seeker3 (2/7/2007 12:07:50 am): nahi nahi seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:07:52 am): lol seeker3 (2/7/2007 12:08:04 am): seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:08:04 am): silent spectator seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:08:12 am): silent inspector seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:08:13 am): seeker3 (2/7/2007 12:08:14 am): nahi yaar seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:08:17 am): ha ha seeker4 (2/7/2007 12:08:28 am): silent mode se bahar nikaliye didi seeker3 (2/7/2007 12:08:51 am): woh possible nahi hai abhi seeker4 (2/7/2007 12:09:03 am): vibrator par to aa sakti hai seeker4 (2/7/2007 12:09:05 am): lol seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:09:35 am): knock knock doctor seeker3 (2/7/2007 12:09:42 am): haan... seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:09:43 am): i know ur haalat seeker3 (2/7/2007 12:09:44 am): lol seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:09:53 am): but stay calm seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:09:55 am): seeker3 (2/7/2007 12:10:03 am): i know that u 'know' seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:11:07 am): cmon seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:11:09 am): cheer up seeker3 (2/7/2007 12:11:16 am): lol seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:11:18 am): and come out of questions seeker4 (2/7/2007 12:11:18 am): seeker3 (2/7/2007 12:11:32 am): thoda time to lagega seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:11:38 am): no seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:12:04 am): dear sister listen seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:12:07 am): naaaa dee seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:12:14 am): aise nahee seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:12:17 am): one seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:12:24 am): when we start walking .. we fell down several times seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:12:40 am): but at last we become athlete some day seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:12:45 am): is answer for all ur thoughts seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:12:48 am): so there is always a first time seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:13:21 am): lik seeker1 bhai just waitin for finish line to come seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:13:32 am): god knows dear seeker3 (2/7/2007 12:13:44 am): hmm.. seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:13:47 am): but i am being assigned with other task seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:13:56 am): perhaps again my testing seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:13:57 am): lol seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:14:12 am): g maaalik seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:14:27 am): i hv to pick some other brothers and sisters and push them to track seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:14:54 am): ab ye to wo hi bata sakta hai ki uski raza kya hai seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:14:57 am): na main poochta hun seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:15:07 am): na main mana hi karta hun seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:15:09 am): seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:15:13 am): that will again add seeker3 (2/7/2007 12:15:40 am): hmm.. seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:16:31 am): bhai aaaaj kal aaapkeee meditation ka kya time chal raha hai ?

seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:16:39 am): and deeee aaap bhi batao seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:16:39 am): dekho jinne vi bade bade mahatma si .. sant si seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:16:40 am): ? seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:16:51 am): onaan ne naam te guru di khoj kiti kayeee saal seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:17:19 am): taaan jaake pooran guru labeya seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:17:39 am): e vi mukkaddaraan da khel hai.. seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:17:54 am): ho sakda hai sada padosi hove seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:18:06 am): ho sakda hai sat mulk paar hove seeker4 (2/7/2007 12:18:14 am): seeker4 (2/7/2007 12:18:17 am): palle nahi pad raha hai seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:18:28 am): doctor will let u understand seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:18:32 am): i will come back in 5 minutes seeker3 (2/7/2007 12:18:37 am): nooooooooo seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:18:42 am): ha ha seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:18:47 am): il l seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:18:53 am): dnt worry seeker3 (2/7/2007 12:18:54 am): vipin has mat..u do it seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:21:55 am): m on phone seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:22:03 am): doc pls explan to gaurav seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:22:46 am): see what happn some times kii while walkin on road and searching for the xact address we pass through the same so many times but jab proper guidance is there(lik guru ) tab v get the xact place...... and thn v realize o yaaar yahan se to abhi gaya tha........ seeker4 (2/7/2007 12:23:15 am): ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:23:17 am): means wen time come master wil guide us seeker4 (2/7/2007 12:23:19 am): okay seeker3 (2/7/2007 12:23:46 am): seeker1 bhaiya is saying....that many great saints searched fr a perfect master fr years and years together seeker3 (2/7/2007 12:24:17 am): and atlast they encountered "perfect master" seeker3 (2/7/2007 12:24:36 am): this is all game of destiny seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:24:53 am): hmm and time seeker3 (2/7/2007 12:25:11 am): ur master can be either next door to u or maybe countries away ---------------------------