private conference held on 11th feb seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:09:51 am): sadho ye murdon ka gaon peer mare, pygambar mari hain mari hain zinda jogi raja mari hain, parja mari hain mari hain baid aur rogi chanda mari hain, suraj mari hain mari hain dharni akasa chaudan bhuvan ke chaudhry mari hain in hun ki ka asa nauhun mari hain, dus hun mari hain mari hain sahaj athasi tethis koti devata mari hain badi kaal ki bazi naam anam anant rehat hai duja tatva na hoi kahe kabir suno bhai sadho bhatak maro mat koi seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:10:11 am): the above words are from kabir ji seeker2 (2/12/2007 12:10:13 am): wowww seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:10:55 am): explanation is quite simple ...that whatever on earth we know seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:10:59 am): has an end seeker2 (2/12/2007 12:11:36 am): bhaiya..yahi wrds se inspire hoke gautam budhdha went on path of enlightenment..aisa hai kya? seeker3 (2/12/2007 12:11:52 am): hm seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:11:53 am): even the dharti/akash/chand suraj doctor bimar raja beggars yogi peer mystics devtas who came in human form seeker3 (2/12/2007 12:11:58 am): aise hee seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:12:35 am): i dont know but what an simple straight meaningful poem seeker3 (2/12/2007 12:12:45 am): hm seeker2 (2/12/2007 12:12:46 am): hmm seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:13:08 am): kabir ji said only he is there who has no beginning..no end.. we cant name him ... we cant explain him seeker3 (2/12/2007 12:13:18 am): bhai tat ws the same case seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:13:26 am): he is everywhere.. rest everything on creation has an end seeker3 (2/12/2007 12:13:37 am): hm seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:13:56 am): kabir ji said... bhai in sabke chakkar ein pad kar bhatak ke mat maro seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:14:08 am): koi kaheen jata hai ..koi mandir ki deewaren poojta hai seeker3 (2/12/2007 12:14:14 am): only name nuthin else will left seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:14:19 am): koi let let ke pahadon ke chakkar lagata hai seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:14:46 am): koi dargaahon pe mathe patakta hai seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:14:53 am): koi sarovaron mein nahata hai seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:15:12 am): koi jaake moortiyon ke sake karta hai seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:15:33 am): to koi ghantiyaan baja baja ke sochta hai ki bhagwan ko sun gaya hai seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:15:55 am): koi on spcial day pe triveni mein naha ke sochta hai ki paap se mukt ho gaya hai seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:16:22 am): bhaiya agar paap se mukti itni instantly mil jati to triveni mein gota khane ke baad soul waapis naheen aani thi baahar seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:16:35 am): waheen se hi seedha apne dhaam chali jani thi seeker2 (2/12/2007 12:16:39 am): hmmm.. seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:16:58 am): yogi tap karte karte chale gaye seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:17:06 am): mukti haasil naheen hui seeker3 (2/12/2007 12:17:13 am): koi doosree cheez nahi hai only one seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:17:34 am): jo achee kaam karta tha..achee astha rakhta tha.. wo raja ban ke aa gaya seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:17:56 am): jo raja the..wo fir se indriyon ke adheen ho gaye seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:17:59 am): aur nark mein chale gaye seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:18:19 am): jiski jaisee ichhaa thi waise hi ban gaya aur waapis chourasi ke chakkar mein fas gaya seeker2 (2/12/2007 12:18:30 am): hm seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:18:51 am): "aayen hain to jaayenge , raja, rank, fakeer ....ek sinhasan chadhi chale to ek bandhe janjeer " seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:18:58 am): koi naheen rukega yahan seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:19:06 am): aaj to daulta kamayihai.wo kal kisi aur ki hogi
seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:19:10 am): parson kisi aur ki seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:19:15 am): to tumhara kya hai seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:19:46 am): log kehte hain ye ghar mera hai.par uspe bhi tumhare hi apne nishana lagaye baithe hain ki kab tum maro..kab ye unka hoye seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:20:11 am): log dan punya karte hain seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:20:25 am): to bhaiya dan to aisa hona chahiye ki ek haath kare to doosre hath ko khabar na ho seeker3 (2/12/2007 12:20:45 am): but log seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:20:48 am): par hum kya karenge.. kursiyon pe naam chapwa denge ki "falne ke yaad mein falane ne bhent ki" seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:21:29 am): gareebon ko roti khilayenge to halwayee ko kahenge ki chane mein meetha soda jyaada daalna taki heavy bane aur kam lage seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:21:39 am): kuch bhi to pure naheen hai seeker3 (2/12/2007 12:22:08 am): duja tatva na hoi kahe kabir suno bhai sadho bhatak maro mat koi seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:22:10 am): hum aastha ki baat karte hain jab mandir jana hota hai.. baaki time jab aur kaamom mein lage hote hain to wo jyaada astha se karte hain seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:22:31 am): haan ye sab bhatak ke marne ki nishaniyaan hain seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:22:35 am): hum log jin par chalte hain seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:22:59 am): hamen apni jimmedari aur uski marji ke beech fark pata naheen hai seeker3 (2/12/2007 12:23:07 am): doosra koi nahi hai seeker3 (2/12/2007 12:23:16 am): only one seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:23:17 am): hame jo sahuliyat lagti hai wohi karte hain aur usi ko dharm bana lete hain seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:24:04 am): agar koi dimaagi tuar se pagal ho jaye to kehte hain ki usko bhagwan ke hawale kar do seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:24:17 am): o bhai jab tak tum ilaaz naheen karvaoge to bhagwan khud kya karega seeker3 (2/12/2007 12:24:24 am): har cheez main hain kahi dhundne ki zarurat nahi seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:24:32 am): tumahre sir mein halka sa bhi dard ho to kya bhagwan ke hawale karte ho khud ko seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:24:33 am): ? seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:24:42 am): dawayi naheen khate ho..balm naheen lagate ho? seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:24:47 am): to action to lena hi parega seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:24:57 am): similarly agar ek baar marna hai to ...roz marna seekho seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:25:05 am): ek hi tareeka hai seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:25:07 am): meditation seeker2 (2/12/2007 12:25:14 am): hm seeker3 (2/12/2007 12:25:18 am): hm seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:25:41 am): par hamen kya lagta hai seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:25:46 am): ki bhagwan hi khud kar lega seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:25:58 am): hum aram se aise hi pleasures mein fase rahen seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:26:18 am): o bhai bhagwan to father ki tareh hai jo school se bachhon ke wapis ane ka intezaar kar raha hai seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:26:30 am): ab ya to usne humko school bheja hi na hota to koi dukh hi naheen tha seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:26:37 am): ki jab time ayega to shool jayega seeker3 (2/12/2007 12:26:42 am): hm seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:26:57 am): par jo shool mein chala gaya hai ..to agar wo seekh ke na aaye ...ya thodi der ho jaye seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:27:07 am): to baap ki haalat buri ho jati hai seeker2 (2/12/2007 12:27:16 am): sach hai seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:27:22 am): to hum sab school mein aye hue hain seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:27:29 am): humko padhaya ja raha hai seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:27:53 am): aur padh ke humne usi tareh ghar chale jana hai jaisa hamen
classroom mein seekhne ko milta hai seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:28:26 am): apni to pathshaala masti ki paathshaala .... na koyee jeene wala no koi marne wala seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:28:37 am): loose control seeker2 (2/12/2007 12:28:46 am): hahaha...awesome! seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:28:55 am): ab isi gane ko dekha jaye to sunte sab hain seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:29:03 am): chalo had se had interpret bhi kar lenge seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:29:24 am): shayad likhne wale ko bhi naheen pata ho ki is baat ka kitne gehra matlab ho sakta hai seeker2 (2/12/2007 12:29:33 am): hmm seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:29:34 am): par abhi jab maine likhi to samajh aa gaya? seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:29:39 am): how come ??? seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:29:42 am): his grace seeker2 (2/12/2007 12:29:49 am): hm seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:29:58 am): dear frends yehi school mein baithe hone ki nishaniyaan hain seeker3 (2/12/2007 12:30:02 am): hm seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:30:15 am): par imtihaan humne khud dena hai seeker3 (2/12/2007 12:30:27 am): or prepration bhi seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:30:32 am): jab tak bachha khud tayyaari karke exam naheen dega.. seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:30:43 am): tab tak use chutti naheen milegi seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:30:44 am): seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:31:06 am): ya to fail ho jayega seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:31:10 am): y apaas ho jayega seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:31:24 am): jo thoda achaa hoga usko re appear hone ka chance bhi milega seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:31:37 am): aur usko teachers aur dhyan se padhayenge seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:32:18 am): par bhai agar pata chal jaye ki school band hone wala hai...aur time kam hai padhayi karne ka ...to hamen din dugni aur raat chougni padhayi karni hai seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:32:29 am): sab kuch unconditional honi chahiye seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:32:52 am): aisee bani boliye man ka aapa khoye seeker3 (2/12/2007 12:33:06 am): waqt ke saath hai mitti ka safar sadiyon se kisko malum kahan kai hai kidher ke hum hain rukh hawaon ka jidhar hai udhar ke hum hai...... apni mar zee ke safar ke kahan hum hain......... chalte rehte hain ke chalna hai musafir ka......... sochte rehte kis rah se guzare hum hai seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:33:07 am): auran ko seetal kare, aaphu seetal hoy seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:33:32 am): haan yehi to problem hain seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:33:51 am): ab humne jaan lena chahiye ki hamari hawaon ka rukh kidhar ka hai seeker3 (2/12/2007 12:34:04 am): hm seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:34:34 am): har baat ka waqt mukkammal hai, har waqt ki saakh hoti hai, waqt gaya to baat gayi, bas waqt ki keemat hoti hai seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:34:42 am): wo waqt bahut important hai seeker3 (2/12/2007 12:35:06 am): ye honsla kese jhuke , ye aarzoo kaise ruke... manzil mushkil tokya.... tanha ye dil to kya....... seeker3 (2/12/2007 12:35:46 am): rah pe kaante bikhre agar us pe to phir bhi chalna hi hai..... raat ko ek din dhal na hee hai seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:35:48 am): ladakpan khel mien khoya, jawani neend mein soya, budhapa dekh ke roya, wahi kissa purana hai .... sajan re jhooth mat bolo... seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:36:19 am): hamare paas kehne sunne ko to bahut hota hai seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:36:29 am): par in baaton ko amli jama pehnana hai seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:36:39 am): amal naheen karoge to kuchh samajh naheen ayega seeker3 (2/12/2007 12:36:48 am): hmm seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:37:02 am): jis bande ko gud ka taste batane ko kahen ..agar usne gud chakha hi naheen to wo kya batayega seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:37:07 am): gud kho..taste batao seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:37:34 am): hamare paas seekhne ke unlimited source hain.. par bina guru
gyan na hoyi seeker3 (2/12/2007 12:37:47 am): phike ya kadweko bhagane waala seeker3 (2/12/2007 12:37:59 am): hmmm seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:38:20 am): mera matlab feeka ya kadva naheen tha seeker3 (2/12/2007 12:38:34 am): meeetha tha ? seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:38:37 am): i meant ki jo wahan tak pahuncha hi naheen seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:39:00 am): jisko maloom hi naheen ki kaunsi road delhi jayegi..usse rasta pooch ke to gum hone ke chances hi hote hain.. seeker3 (2/12/2007 12:39:12 am): din kate naa raat........... wot held us together......... din kate naa raat kate naaa shaam seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:39:17 am): apna patrol bhi khatam karoge aur bhatakte bhi rahoge seeker3 (2/12/2007 12:39:46 am): hmm seeker2 (2/12/2007 12:39:57 am): hm seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:41:13 am): ud jayega huns akela, jug darshan ka mela jaise paat gire taruvar se, milna bahut duhela naa jane kidhar girega, lageya pawan ka rela jub howe umur puri, jab chute ga hukum huzuri jum ke doot bade mazboot, jum se pada jhamela das kabir har ke gun gawe, wah har ko paran pawe guru ki karni guru jayega, chele ki karni chela !! seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:42:40 am): another gem from kabir ji seeker3 (2/12/2007 12:42:47 am): hmm seeker2 (2/12/2007 12:42:52 am): hm seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:43:04 am): farmate hain ki sabko akele chale jana hai seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:43:33 am): ye jo apne paas hum mela lagate hain parivaar bhadhate hain dost banate hain ghar banate hain seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:43:46 am): cars khareedte hain... koi sath nahen jata seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:44:02 am): aisee haalat hoti hai ki jaise koi patta sookh ke ped se girta hai seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:44:15 am): par kisi ko pata naheen chalta ki wo girega kidhar.... seeker2 (2/12/2007 12:44:24 am): hm seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:44:33 am): aise hi marne pe sab samajhte hain ki hamare marne walo koto mukti mil gayi seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:44:35 am): swarg mil gaya seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:44:42 am): kisko pata hai wo kahan tadap raha hai seeker3 (2/12/2007 12:44:59 am): kisko malum seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:45:11 am): wo patta gira to ped se tha par uski ichhhaayen use leke kaheen aur uda ke le jati hain seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:45:38 am): aise hi agar ant samay mein bhi kisi ki koi ichaa panap jati hai to uski guarantee naheen rehti ki kahan girega seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:45:51 am): poori zindagi hum doosron ke kehne pe amal karte hain... seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:45:58 am): biwi ke seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:46:00 am): bachchon ke seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:46:07 am): rishtedaron ke seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:46:34 am): par bhaia ..kaal ke doot ayenge to kiskiko naheen bakshenge seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:46:46 am): hum apni ichaaon ke bhog mein hi mar jate hain seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:47:02 am): kisiko time naheen diya jata ki pehle wo car khareed le to maut aa jaye seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:47:11 am): ya pehle kisi ki shaadi ho jaye to maut aa jaye seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:47:19 am): har koi budhape mein naheen marta seeker3 (2/12/2007 12:47:29 am): chalte rehte hai ke chalna hai musafir ka naseeb sochte rehte kis rha guzarte hum hain rukh hawaonka jidhar ahi udhar ke hum hain..... apni marzee se kahan safr ki humne seeker3 (2/12/2007 12:47:31 am): hmmm seeker3 (2/12/2007 12:47:35 am): hmmm seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:47:47 am): hum kehte hain ki guru milne se guru kamare kasht apne oopar le leta hai seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:47:56 am): log isi bhedchaal mein naam lete hain seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:48:16 am): ki hamen manokamna pooran karne wala guru mil raha hai seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:48:24 am): they take him as a medium to fulfill their grants
seeker2 (2/12/2007 12:48:29 am): hmm seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:48:40 am): par on judgement day..everyone wud be challanged for their own deeds seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:48:52 am): guru ne jo kamayi ki hai...wo apne sthaan ko prapt hoga seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:49:09 am): chele ne jo ki hai..uska chitthaa alag padha jayega seeker3 (2/12/2007 12:49:13 am): pchch seeker3 (2/12/2007 12:49:16 am): hmm seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:49:16 am): to ye raste to akele safar karne ka hai seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:49:24 am): guru aapko rasta dikha sakta hai,,, seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:49:46 am): apne jeevan ko sukhmay karne mein madad kar sakta hai seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:49:51 am): par mehnat apko khud karni hai seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:49:56 am): raste pe apne khud chalna hai seeker3 (2/12/2007 12:50:06 am): "there is some self-interest behind every friendship. there is no friendship without self-interests. this is a bitter truth seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:50:08 am): hum chalenge hi naheen to destination pe apne aap kaise pahunchenge? seeker3 (2/12/2007 12:50:30 am): so walk ur self seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:50:38 am): well brother try to make any frendship with no conditions seeker3 (2/12/2007 12:50:46 am): hmmm seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:51:01 am): u wud love to live in that moment seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:51:07 am): as i do with you all seeker3 (2/12/2007 12:51:14 am): but we hav to go alone seeker2 (2/12/2007 12:51:35 am): hm seeker3 (2/12/2007 12:51:36 am): no one will wait........ seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:51:42 am): alone ka matlab ye naheen ki aap kisi ko dost banana chhod do seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:52:03 am): all u need is unconditional love for everyone seeker3 (2/12/2007 12:52:12 am): hmm seeker3 (2/12/2007 12:52:56 am): nothing is mine but evrthing is for me seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:54:33 am): hirna samajh boojh ban charna || ek ban charna duje ban charna tije ban pag nahin dharna || tije ban mein panch paardhi un ke nazar nahin padna || panch hirana pachis hirni un mein ek chatur na || toye mar tero mas bikawe tere khal ka karenge bichona || kahe kabira jo suno bhai sadho guru ke charan chit dharna || seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:54:52 am): kabir ji farmate hain ... seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:55:24 am): hamari jo conciousness hai wo hiran ke jaise hoti hai seeker3 (2/12/2007 12:55:28 am): hmm' seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:56:04 am): jaise hiran ek jungle se doosre jungle chara chane ke liye bhatakta rehta hain.. aur waheen pe use shikari bhi milte hain jo use maar ke bechte hain seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:56:06 am): similarly seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:56:15 am): hum apni indiryon ke adheen hote hain seeker2 (2/12/2007 12:56:38 am): hm seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:56:43 am): aap kehte hain ki - pehla ban is his place seeker3 (2/12/2007 12:56:44 am): hmm seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:56:54 am): means ... when we feel oneness seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:57:08 am): doosra ban hai - mental senses seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:57:11 am): meditation seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:57:24 am): teesra ban hai - lower senses... seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:57:32 am): touch/feel/hear/see/taste seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:57:50 am): ye sab humara dhyaan duniya ke padarthon mein laga deti hain seeker2 (2/12/2007 12:57:52 am): hm seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:58:03 am): hum inke bhogi ban jate hain seeker3 (2/12/2007 12:58:14 am): hmm and we hav to cross seeker3 (2/12/2007 12:58:40 am): through one ban to the top seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:58:41 am): pehnne ko ache se achha kadpa.... mehnge pakwaan.. maans..sharaab...
seeker3 (2/12/2007 12:59:10 am): i.e.meditation seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:59:12 am): to aap bolte hain ki ... teesre ban mein ye paanch shikari chupe hote hain seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:59:20 am): hum unke jaal mein fas jate hain seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:59:31 am): aur wo hamen maar ke haamri khaal bechte hain seeker1 (2/12/2007 12:59:39 am): matlab.. nark mein le jate hain seeker2 (2/12/2007 12:59:56 am): hm seeker1 (2/12/2007 1:00:19 am): to wo ek seeker ko bolte hain ki agar ye sab samajh boojh leni hai to pooran guru ke charnon mien girna seeker1 (2/12/2007 1:00:47 am): guru ke bina gat naheen hai seeker1 (2/12/2007 1:01:09 am): aur guru ke bina hum pehle aur doosre ban mein charna bhi chahen to teesre ban mein bhatakte hue pahunch hi jate hain seeker1 (2/12/2007 1:01:21 am): -------- all clear?