September 9, 2008
Speaking is Detective Timothy Hightower, of the Louisville Metro Police Department Homicide Squad. The time is approximately 9:52 hours. Today's date is Wednes...correction...that would be Tuesday, September the 9th, 2008. We are currently on the parking lot of Pleasure Ridge High School parking lot. Presently, I'm in my vehicle and in my vehicle is Nat Byerly.
Hightower
Nate, if you would, state your full name for the tape.
Byerly
Nathan Todd Byerly.
Hightower
Okay. And would you spell your last name?
Byerly
B-Y-E-R-L-Y.
Hightower
And how old are you, Nathan?
Byerly
14 years old.
Hightower
And Nathan is a white male. And what is your date of birth?
Byerly Hightower
Okay. Your home address?
Byerly
x
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Hightower
x
Byerly
x
Hightower
Okay. And what is your home phone number?
Byerly Hightower
Okay. And what is your zip code?
Byerly
40258.
Hightower
Okay. This statement is being tape-recorded. Does it met with your approval?
Byerly
Yes, sir.
Hightower
Okay. I'm taking this statement in reference to the events that occurred on Wednesday, August the 20th, 2008, that occurred during the PRP football practice. Please describe to me the events of Wednesday, August the 20th, 2008, from the beginning to the end of practice.
Byerly
Well, since I'm a freshman, I've gotta go to study hall, so I had study hall from 2:30 to 3:10. And the sophomores, the senior, they weight-lift and then they watch film, so they did that until about 4 o'clock. And then at 4, we went out to practice, and uhm, I guess it started around 4:15, around there or somethin'. Uh, we started out with team take-off's, where we just run plays real fast against the line defense, then we went in to individuals. Uh, I think on that day, we always start with a handoff drill, 'cause I'm a running back. We did that for a while. And then we got a water break. And then we did uh, we hit the pad a little bit, I
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think. Yeah. We hit that for about 10 or 15 minutes. Then we got a water break. And then we did buck drill, uh, it's a play we run. We did that for a while. Then we got a water break. And then we were walkin' back from the water and so Coach Stinson, he got a little mad so we lined up on a line and we were gonna run till practice was over. Hightower
Okay. Let's go back to that. You said uh, you start off uh, what time did you get out there on the field, you said?
Byerly
Around 4:15, I guess.
Hightower
4:15? Were you in full gear?
Byerly
I think it was only shoulder pads and helmet. We didn't wear pants that day.
Hightower
Shoulder pads and helmet? And you said uh, you got on the field in the first ex...and the first practice the things you were doin'...what was that?
Byerly
Team take-off.
Hightower
What is that?
Byerly
Uh, offense lines up on one side of the field and defense line on the other, and then we just run plays, like up tempo, against no defense.
Hightower
Okay. Is that freshmen...sophomore...
Byerly
...Well...
a
mixture
of
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Hightower
...juniors...seniors?
Byerly
The varsity, they run first and then they get behind the freshmen...the JV goes next then the freshmen go. And then we just keep alternatin'.
Hightower
Okay. And you are a freshman?...
Byerly
...Freshman. Yes, sir.
Hightower
Okay. And then after you did that, what was the next thing that occurred?
Byerly
Uh, individuals, where you go with your uh, position groups.
Hightower
Okay. So you were with your position group, what group was that a gain?
Byerly
The running backs.
Hightower
Okay. How uh, what...go on from there. So you were, you were practicin' the running backs?
Byerly
Yeah. We do a hand-off drill, where you get in two lines, you hand the ball off, and you just keep going. And then we did that for a while.
Hightower
And then what happened after that?
Byerly
We got a water break and then we did like hittin' the pass, like blocking.
Hightower
Okay. Now you say you got a water break, did the whole, did just the running backs get a water break or...
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Byerly
Well, usually, they're like two or three minutes apart. Like the quarterbacks and stuff, they'll get one, then the linemen will, the linebackers, running backs, but we're not all over there at the exact same time.
Hightower
Okay. So you were over there with what?
Byerly
the running backs.
Hightower
Running backs? that?
Byerly
Then we uh, we went to do the blocking stuff and we did our blocks for the certain plays and everything. And then we got another water break and then we went to buck drill.
Hightower
Okay. And then after buck drill, what happened then?
Byerly
We got a water break and then that's when we had to run after that.
Hightower
Okay. Why did you have to run?
Byerly
'Cause we were just walkin' back to the field and we weren't hustlin' or anything.
Hightower
Okay. Who, who ordered y'all to, who told y'all to run?
Byerly
Coach Stinson.
Hightower
Coach Stinson? So how many water breaks were you given?
Then what happened after
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Byerly
We were given three before we ran and then after practice was over we could get one.
Hightower
Okay. So was that individually or as a team?
Byerly
As a team.
Hightower
So you were given three and then you get one after...
Byerly
After everything was over.
Hightower
After everything was over? How many water breaks did you take?
Byerly
I took all of 'em.
Hightower
How many is that?
Byerly
four. When we ran, uhm, the freshmen, they got to quit a few early. So I got one then.
Hightower
Okay. Uh, after the, the first water break, what did practice consist of?
Byerly
It consist of blockin' the pass and then buck drill.
Hightower
And why was the team running those uh, sprints?
Byerly
Because we were walkin' on the field and not hustlin'.
Hightower
How many sprints did you do? Or did you do 'em as a group?
Byerly
We did 'em as a group.
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Hightower
Okay.
Byerly
There was the little runnin' backs and like linebackers and stuff, they run, and then the gasser, you run start field, we run it sideways, you run 50 yards there, 50 yards back, 50 yards there, and 50 yards back...then you get a break while the big guys do it.
Hightower
Okay. So that's...I'm lookin' at you, I know we're on tape...how many times is that, that you run back and forth?
Byerly
Uh, runnin' backs, we fre...or the little guys, the freshmen, we pro'bly only did like ten. they might o' done three or four after us.
Hightower
Okay. Now in your group, you said you were in the uh, running back group?
Byerly
Yes, sir.
Hightower
Or...when you were doin' the sprints, do you break 'em in different kind of groups then?
Byerly
It's just two groups, the linemen and everybody else.
Hightower
Okay. So which group were you in?
Byerly
Everybody else.
Hightower
Everybody else' group? Okay. and was that a combination of uh, bigger kids and little kids or...
Byerly
All the big guys ran together and all the little
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guys got in together. There weren't freshmen groups, it was all ages. Hightower
All ages. Okay. And how many uh, sprints did your group do?
Byerly
About ten.
Hightower
ten?
Byerly
Well, the freshmen...the little guys... they pro'bly ran around 13 or 14...
Hightower
...Okay...
Byerly
...but we stopped a few early 'cause the freshmen goes less.
Hightower
Okay. So you...so how many did you do? Your group that you were in?
Byerly
Ten.
Hightower
Ten? And you said you were in the group, you were in the uh, what was the name of the group that you were in again? You said it was a...
Byerly
It was everybody else. Little guys.\
Hightower
Little guys? Okay. When you ran these sprints, did you have your gear on?
Byerly
We started with everything on and then we ran a few of 'em, then we got to take our helmets off, then we ran a few more, then we got to take our shoulder pads off, and we were just runnin' just in T -shirts and a short shirts.
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Hightower
So how many sprints did you run with your gear uh, on?
Byerly
Pro'bly three or four.
Hightower
Three or four? Then after you took off your gear how many did you run?
Byerly
Uh, pro'bly three.
Hightower
How long do you think the team was running sprints?
Byerly
Pro'bly 25 minutes, 30 minutes.
Hightower
Did any of your teammates ask for water breaks or try to get water during the sprints?
Byerly
not during the sprints.
Hightower
Did you or any teammate become ill while you were running the sprints?
Byerly
Uh, one of the seniors, Calloway, he, he was having a breathing problem and he was about halfway through, and he was like wheezin' a lot, so they got him off the field.
Hightower
So Calloway?
Byerly
Calloway. He's a senior. I don't know his first name.
Hightower
And he got sick during the sprints?
Byerly
About halfway through.
Hightower
Did you see anybody else?
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Byerly
Uh, people were tired and stuff, but nobody was sick, really.
Hightower
During any practice, this year, have you seen or heard of any teammate being injured or quitting the team?
Byerly
Uh, kids have quit but I only remember one, he's a freshman, he quit during practice, but everybody else would quit like afterwards. They just didn't wanna do it anymore.
Hightower
Okay. Well, let's go to who the kid that you know that quit.
Byerly
Uh, I don't know his name, they call him "John Deer."
Hightower
"John Deer"?
Byerly
Yeah.
Hightower
Okay.
Byerly
He wore a John Deer hat all the time.
Hightower
Okay. What was his race?
Byerly
Uh, he was white.
Hightower
Okay. and when did he quit?
Byerly
He quit a while back, about a month ago.
Hightower
A month ago?
Byerly
It was the first day in pads like full gear, and he
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just didn't like to hit. Hightower
Okay. So he quit. Now. You said there was another kid that you knew about: Somebody else?
Byerly
Well, a few freshmen quit 'cause they just didn't think it was the sport for them, I guess.
Hightower
Okay. Uh, do you know their names?
Byerly
Uh, off the top of my head Gomez quit, uh...
Hightower
...What is his race?
Byerly
Mexican or somethin'.
Hightower^
Okay.
Byerly
And then Timmy quit.
Hightower
And what is his race?
Byerly
He's white.
Hightower
Okay.
Byerly
Uh, some other kid, I think his last name is King, he quit. But he quit a long time ago. Older guys, I don't really know of any older guys quittin', just freshmen.
Hightower
And on that day, Wednesday, August the 20th, 2008, when you were practicin', did you see Max pass out?
Byerly
Uh, I was like on the side 'cause freshmen quit...he fell on the last one, I saw him gettin'
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dragged off. Hightower
Okay. So you, you...you had just quit runnin' sprints?
Byerly
I had quit about two or three before and they were on their last one...
Hightower
...Okay...
Byerly
...and that's when he passed out.
Hightower
Okay. When...so he was runnin', did you see him with gear on when he was runnin'?
Byerly
He was just in...I think he didn't even have a shirt on. Just shorts.
Hightower
Just shorts on? And you saw him...what happen? what did you see happen?
Byerly
I didn't see him fall down, I just saw him gettin' dragged off.
Hightower
You just saw him gettin' dragged off?
Byerly
'Cause we had a little meeting with the freshmen before that.
Hightower
Okay. So you saw him gettin' dragged off? Where was they draggin' him off to?
Byerly
Uhm, under the shade tree, to the bleachers.
Hightower
The bleachers? Okay. Did you go over there where he was at?
Byerly
No.
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Hightower
What were you doin' at that time?
Byerly
Uh, freshmen were cleanin' the field off, like all the pads and stuff. And then we were gettin' in our big team huddle.
Hightower
Okay. Has anyone influenced you in any way to withhold information or to change any of the facts that actually occurred during that practice?
Byerly
No.
Hightower
Is this statement the truth?
Byerly
Yes, sir.
Hightower
Do you have anything else to add?
Byerly
No, sir.
Hightower
I'd like to end this statement. approximately 1003 hours.
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