Avery

September 09, 2008

The time now is 1832 hours. The date is September 09, 2008. My name is Detective Terry Jones; my code number is 6354. I’m with the Louisville Metro Police Department. This interview is of Mr. Corey Avery. Last names spelling is A-v-e-r-y. Is that correct, sir?

Avery

Yes.

Jones

Okay and your date of birth?

Avery

Uh… oh yeah,

Jones

And your address?

Avery

6704…

Jones

6-7-0-4?

Avery

Yeah, Wyckof… Wyckof Court, W-y-c-k…

Jones

I’m sorry.

Avery

Wyckof Court.

Jones

Let me turn this down a little bit. I can’t… so the tape can pick it up. Okay the address again is 6704.

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Avery

Wyckof Court.

Jones

Wyckof?

Avery

Yeah.

Jones

Spell that?

Avery

W-y-c-k.

Jones

W-y…

Jones

c-k-o-f?

Avery

Yeah.

Jones

Court?

Avery

Yeah.

Jones

And phone number?

Avery

Uh, that’s Southland High School.

Jones

Uh… just a number where you can be reached?

Avery

(Inaudible).

Jones

Uh-huh.

Avery Jones Avery Jones

Okay,

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Avery

Yes.

Jones

Okay I’m gonna go over this real quick from this form. This statement is being tape recorded. Does it meet with your approval?

Avery

Uh-huh, yeah.

Jones

And Mrs. Avery, you’re present also; does this meet with your approval?

Avery Mrs.

Yes.

Jones

And your first name, Mrs. Avery?

Avery Mrs.

Stacy.

Jones

Stacy Avery and Corey, are you aware this interview is being taped?

Avery

Uh-huh.

Jones

O.K. Again, I’m taking a taped statement in reference to the events that occurred August 20, 2008 that occurred during the PRP Football Practice. Please describe the events on August 20, 2008 from the beginning to the end of practice?

Avery

I was, uh… well, first we had to uh… first came out, then we do those little chining stretches and then go team take off, team… then after that, we go and divide into groups your offense and line got defense. B for the bags all that stuff. And then after that, after that then you do (inaudible) and that’s called individually; we do that for awhile, and after that you go team, and that’s like a… that’s like a scrimmage after this, after the scrimmage you

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get water and you run gassers. Jones

Okay so basically your training consisted Wednesday of—of physical training or laying over drills and plays of such as you described?

Avery

Uh-huh.

Jones

Leading up to running sprints and gassers?

Avery

Uh-huh.

Jones

Okay and what are… I’m sorry, go ahead ma’am?

Avery Mrs.

Oh no.

Jones

And what are gassers?

Avery

You run, the side—the side of the field and you run back and forth two times.

Jones

Is it width of the field or length of the field?

Avery

Width.

Jones

The width of the field?

Avery

Uh-huh.

Jones

Okay that being said uh, how many water breaks from… are the water breaks given as— as to individuals or as… as a team?

Avery

The whole… they dispense like… it’s like a tent and like the individual someone might get it first but then the whole time the whole team gets it.

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Jones

Okay I understand. That… that uh, you’re telling me that the teams are broke… the football team is broke down in groups?

Avery

Uh-huh.

Jones

Of other teams consisting of what?

Avery

All this line… defense line, defense of “x”.

Jones

Okay so in a classified groups of team players?

Avery

Uh-huh.

Jones

And are you telling me that individual groups like that may take breaks on their… on their own?

Avery

No, it’s just… it’s all one thing just one team might take it before and it goes like a line.

Jones

So your answer will be as a team?

Avery

Uh-huh.

Jones

Okay, on August 20th 2008, how many water breaks were you… did you take?

Avery

I took four.

Jones

Okay and can you recall the last time you took your water break?

Avery

Today, uh…

Jones

Uh no, the day August 20, 2008?

Avery

Before gassers.

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Jones

It was before gassers. Do you recall the time?

Avery

No, I leave at like 5:30, nothing like that but I don’t know the timeframes.

Jones

You don’t recall the time? But it was right after your water break that you ran gassers? Okay and O.K. And describe gassers to me? Uh… what is considered one, one gasser or how, one sprint; what is considered that?

Avery

You gotta do is run, you run to… you run— you run to one side line and you run back, you run again. You just run, well, you run to one sideline and come back… go to one sideline and then back… that’s one gasser.

Jones

Okay so a sideline to sideline, back to the first sideline and then back to the 2nd sideline and then back to the original sideline?

Avery

Uh-huh.

Jones

Okay and why was the team running sprints?

Avery

Uh because we wasn’t… we wasn’t hustling. We… we weren’t (inaudible). We run sprints every day but just like that day… that typical day, we ran more.

Jones

Okay you said the team was not hustling?

Avery

Uh-huh.

Jones

And uh, how many sprints did you run in your group?

Avery

All—all the team run gassers.

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Jones

Okay how many did you run?

Avery

It was like… it was in the 30’s but (inaudible)… when I start counting.

Jones

What do you… what do you recall running?

Avery

Uh, it was like actually in the 30s.

Jones

In 30s?

Avery

In 30s.

Jones

Okay and what group were you running with?

Avery

Oh, I was one of the biggy ones so I didn’t (inaudible).

Jones

Okay, is that offensive people or defensive people?

Avery

It is all the fat people… like all the bigger people.

Jones

Okay so they have everybody broke down in a categories or you know not…

Avery

Yeah the skinny people have got to pick it.

Jones

Okay so you was running with the larger group?

Avery

Uh-huh.

Jones

How many sprints did you run before taking off your gear?

Avery

Not too many… about 20 though. Before that all the gear just…

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Jones

Uh yeah, well, or if you can describe to me uh if you ran a certain amount and you took some equipment off, you ran another certain amount and you took some more equipment off?

Avery

About 15, I took those off and about 20-23 somewhere in there, I took the shoulder pads off and ran the rest (inaudible).

Jones

Okay, I’m sorry, can you repeat that and speak up please? You ran sprints uh how many you ran before you took your gear off?

Avery

We ran like… ran like 10-15 before we took the… when we’re at 10-15, we take (inaudible)… and we took like then in the mid20’s, took the shoulder pads off, and then from there it’s running without the shoulder pads on (inaudible).

Jones

Okay, so 10-15 with your helmet on?

Avery

Uh… un, no, at 10-15 with the helmet on.

Jones

And then uh and then 10 later or how many later after the… after you remove your helmet? How many did you run without your helmet on?

Avery

Probably about 10.

Jones

Okay and after taking off your gear, which is helmets, shoulder pads; how many did you run then?

Avery

We ran the rest of ‘em till mid thirties.

Jones

Okay and you don’t know a specific amount,

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just to the end I’m sure, okay. Is it safe to say you don’t know? Avery

Yeah.

Jones

Okay how long you think the team was running sprints?

Avery

I guess 45 minutes to an hour.

Jones

45 minutes to an hour?

Avery

Uh-huh.

Jones

Was it timed or at your own pace?

Avery

It was timed like, but I guess—I guess all you can… you can’t make him throw us out but when you’re timed, I mean he can do it. You’re talking about like the time you get to one side?

Jones

Yes sir; was that considered timed or at your own pace?

Avery

Well you’re timed but set your own pace for it.

Jones

But you still have… you still have to do it at a certain…

Avery

Yeah, yeah… yes sir, yeah.

Jones

Right. You had to push yourself? Okay did you or any of your teammates ask for water breaks or try to get water during the running of sprints?

Avery

Uh not that I… like the whole side was taking off when I was standing (inaudible).

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Jones

Okay I just want to know. Uh, did you or any of your teammates become ill during the running of sprints?

Avery

It’s typical. When your stomach or you just run, it’s typical stuff like that.

Jones

Okay and what’s considered typical?

Avery

It’s like your stomach starts tightening up. Just like when you run your time.

Jones

Okay um, so you would say nothing unusual in your opinion?

Avery

Uh-huh.

Jones

Is that a um, uh… did you see Mr. Gilpin become ill, uh Max Gilpin become ill?

Avery

No that’s if I mix when I came over to get them gassers, you saw I walked off the field.

Jones

Okay so you were in a different location and— and you’re only stating what you actually physically observed? Not what someone else told you? Is that correct, okay… good, okay. During any practice this year, have you personally seen or heard of any teammates being injured or quitting the team?

Avery

(Inaudible).

Jones

And what players were those if you can recall?

Avery

(Inaudible).

Jones

Uh, yes sir, and the uh not all but I would say if

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you just… the ones that you personally know, not from one you… not from what you heard. Just what—what I’d rather have… I’d rather have the information of what you personally know, not what someone told you? Avery

Uh, James… James Wong there and uh…

Jones

James Wong?

Avery

Yeah.

Jones

Okay, W-a-n-g, Wang?

Avery

I have—I believe it’s W-o-n-g.

Jones

W-o-n-g?

Avery

Something like that, yeah.

Jones

Okay and…

Avery

Uh, we—we had some (inaudible)… like—like what are you talking about syringes, like… or the…?

Jones

Well, I’ll read the question again. During any practices this year, have you personally seen or heard of any teammates becoming injured, being injured or quitting the team?

Avery

Um… you said basically, you didn’t want people that are here tonight?

Jones

Well, I mean, I’d prefer you… it’d be on your own observation but if someone told you someone quit or something like that… that’s fine but I would rater by your own observations first.

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Avery

Well, people that quit, Dominique… Dominique Roberson quit, but he came back and then…

Jones

Dominique Robertson?

Avery

Yeah, and Chris… Chris Williamson, he quit, he came back. And then he quit with someone else but I don’t know… I don’t know the name about that. Maybe it’s (inaudible).

Jones

So at least two—these two.

Avery

Uh, yeah.

Jones

And obviously there was some injuries uh, with some players in which you don’t know the names of most of ‘em. You mentioned one player named Wong; correct?

Avery

Yeah.

Jones

Okay, okay, I’ll end it as this. Has anyone influenced you in any way to withhold information or change any of the facts that actually occurred during the practice?

Avery

Uh, just can’t talk to the Media. We was told not to talk to the Media.

Jones

Okay and uh, you was told not to talk to the Media?

Avery

Uh-huh.

Jones

By who?

Avery

By Coach Stinson the Head Coach.

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Jones

Is this statement truthful?

Avery

What the whole thing?

Jones

Uh, yes sir; is this your statement; is it truthful?

Avery

Uh…

Jones

I’m sorry; yes?

Avery

Yeah, it is.

Jones

Do you have anything else to add?

Avery

Un—un.

Jones

O.K. Okay we will end the interview with Mr. Avery. The time now is 1844 hours.

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