9/11 Air Traffic Control Transcript

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9/11

COMMISSION

POSITION 25A ATCSCC PART 1

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MR.

:

the 9/11 tapes.

This is a continuation of

This is position 25A. Time now,

1215 Zulu.

MR. Steve.

:

I'd like

to talk

Good morning. to Cleveland

This is (?)

MR.

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Cleveland.

MR.

:

Cleveland Indy(?).

Detroit, HVR MR.

1315 to

HVR.

1415. :

Mm-hmm.

Increase that to 20 and

MR.

trail due to volume, Sector 88. MR.

(?)

:

Okay.

That's the

Rosewood 20 and trail, 1315 to 1415. MR.

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Yes.

MR.

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Okay.

MR.

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Thank you.

MR.

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And, Indy?

MR.

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Yeah?

We'll do that.

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me MR.

[unintelligible].

MR.

Departure's off of

MR .

[unintelligible].

MR.

Over Rosewood, yeah.

MR.

Okay.

Detroit.

Okay.

[unintelligible]

Thank you MR .

MR.

Sure .

:

Could you give them an

update on what you know at this point? MR.

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What we know is that

[unintelligible] Cambridge (?) seven minutes ago we did have a threat come out over the frequency, and--on frequency 12782, [unintelligible] part of a two -niner-zero.

Aircraft is now down New York

Knolls(?), down in New York Center's airspace. We're pulling the tape to try to determine what was actually said, and we are working on trying to get the fighters up to just take a look. MR. Center.

:

Okay.

This is New York

We're watching the airplane.

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He's 15 west

me of Kennedy now.

We had one or two confirmations

that he was still at 29.

Should

be one at 29.

at 31 didn't- -couldn't see him.

One

I also had a

conversation with American Airlines, and they have told us that they believe that one of their stewardesses was stabbed and that there are people in the cockpit that have control of the aircraft, and that's all the information they have right now. MR.

:

Okay.

We do have a

couple of transmissions at level (?) talking in the cockpit, the pilot or copilot or whoever was

(?)

while some of these statements were being made.

So

as soon as we get the chance, we'll let you guys know . MR.

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Okay.

Meanwhile, has

anybody contacted the military? MR.

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tried a couple places.

Yeah, we have.

We've

Now we're down to Atlantic

City to try to get someone up to take a look. MR.

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was that just said that? MR.

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Okay.

Who was that?

Boston? Boston.

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Who

me MR.

Okay.

Command Center,

MR.

Hey, Jerry.

you on? Tom.

Try

Ot is also. We did.

MR .

luck.

MR.

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Anything?

Any

luck?

MR.

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No, we did not have any

That's why we're down to Atlantic City. MR.

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Okay.

MR.

:

Excuse me.

Gambone, acting air traffic

(?)

(?)

manager,

New

England Region, is also on. MR.

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Okay.

Command Center,

MR.

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Command Center's on.

MR.

:

Okay.

you on?

Are you

going

to — I guess Boston is getting in touch with Atlantic City.

But do you have any direct lines to

the military f o r - MR.

:

I believe the

supervisor's going to the car(?) to get it now. MR.

:

Okay, good.

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me Here's some new

MR.

information.

W e - - w e lost the primary target about

20 west of Kennedy, it looks like, and there's an EOF report in that area. Anybody copy?

MR.

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Say that again, please.

MR.

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I said we - - we've- -it

looks like we lost the primary target about 20 west of Kennedy and we had a report of an EOF in the area.

We're going t o - - I guess we'll get some Coast

Guard activity up there.

York.

MR.

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We lost the track, too.

MR.

:

Hey, Boston?

This is New

What type aircraft was the American? :

MR.

This is the ACI Watch.

MR.

Say again?

767.

If you lost track of the aircraft?

Over . MR. and

(?)

hijack.

:

Boston has lost track,

so we have to assume that it was a (?)

MR.

the tapes. :

Yeah, New York confirms,

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me we've lost the track as well, and we w e r e - - w e got a report of an EOF in the area that the track was in. MR.

:

Kennedy

reports — are you serious (?)?

Tower

Kennedy

Tower

reports

that there was a fire at the World Trade Center, and that's- -that's the area where we lost the a i rplane. [ Pause. ]

MR .

Anybody on?

MR .

Yeah, Boston's

MS .

(?)

here.

on CNN News.

It's

on the news. It's on the news?

MR.

The

airplane hit the Trade Center? MS.

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Yeah.

MR .

What's going on?

MR .

Newark?

MR .

Yeah .

MR ,

Newark, stop all the

departure s.

MR,

Yeah, we are.

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Hey--

me

MR.

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Stop all the departures.

MR .

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- - l i s t e n , do you know

:

We just heard a second

what's going on? MR.

plane hit the World Trade Center.

Stop all the

departure s. MR.

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You

MR.

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All right.

MS.

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Command Center, Wanda.

MR. Airways.

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got

it .

Okay.

Wanda, Bruce with U.S.

As far as airborne traffic bound for Z

and Y, are we going to be diverting or what's-MS.

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Yes,

MR.

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Okay.

not--they're not allowing MS.

:

you will. So they're

any-They're not taking any

traffic.

MR .

Okay.

MR .

Command Center, Pat

MR.

Hey, Pat, I got a

Good

MILLER REPORTING CO., INC. 735 8th STREET, S.E. WASHINGTON, D.C. 20003-2802 (202) 546-6666

enough.

me question for you on this New York thing.

Are they

going to take aircraft that are already-MR.

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No.

MR.

- - en

MR.

No .

MR.

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route

They're

not going to take

anybody? MR. anything.

:

They're not taking

They are ATC zero.

MR.

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Okay.

Okay.

So no

matter what airport it is, they're not going to take it - MR.

:

They're--they're working

on routes to get the airborne stuff moved around New York Center. MR.

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Okay.

Well, if it's

landing anywhere in New York, especially New York City, like LaGuardia, New York, any of those, they're - MR.

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Forget it.

You know why,

MR.

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Yeah, I know why.

right?

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We got

me a TV on over here.

Okay.

I'll tell them that they

need to start finding alternate airports. MR.

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Until you hear otherwise,

New York Center is ATC zero following the contingency. MR.

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And there's a possibility

that stuff on the fringes could--could maybe get in, but anything in the New York-MR. probably

(?) MR.

:

It would have to be

en route or something like that. :

New York City area is

going to have find alternates, at least for a whi1e. MR.

Yeah .

MR.

Okay.

MR .

Bye .

Bye

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me MR. 25A, Tape 2.

Airways.

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The 9/11 tapes,

Time now 1310

Position

Zulu.

MS.

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Command Center, Wanda.

MR.

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Wanda, Bruce with U.S.

As far as airborne traffic bound

for Z

and Y, are we going to be diverting or w h a t ' s - MS.

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Yes, you will.

MR.

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Okay.

So they're

not--they're not allowing any-MS.

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They're not taking

any

traf fie. Okay.

MR .

question going

Good enough.

MR.

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Command

Center, Pat.

MR.

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Hey, Pat, I got a

for you on this New York thing.

Are they

to take aircraft that are already-MR.

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No.

MR .

- - en

MR.

No .

MR.

They're not going

rout e.

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to take

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me anybody? MR. anything.

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They're not taking

They are ATC zero.

MR.

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Okay.

Okay.

So no

matter what airport it is, they're not going to take it - MR.

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They're--they're working

on routes to get the airborne

stuff moved around

New York Center. MR. landing anywhere

:

Okay.

W e l l , if it's

in New York, especially New York

City, like LaGuardia, New York, any of those, they're - MR.

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Forget it.

You know why,

MR.

:

Yeah, I know why.

right?

a TV on over here.

Okay.

We got

I'll tell them that they

need to start finding alternate airports. MR. New York

:

Until you hear otherwise,

Center is ATC zero following the

contingency. MR.

:

And

there's a possibility

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me

that stuff on the fringes could--could maybe get in, but anything in the New York-MR. probably

:

(?) MR.

It would have to be

en route or something like that. :

New York City area is

going to have find alternates, at least for a while . MR.

Yeah .

MR.

Okay.

MR .

Bye .

MR .

LS (?) .

MR .

Hey, Mark?

MR .

Yeah .

MR.

:

(?)

Bye

.

American 77 out

of Dulles to L.A., anything unusual with them coming out ? MR. anything.

:

I'm not aware of

Is there something you guys need to tell

me ? MR .

You know about a crisis

we got going on, right?

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13 MR.

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Oh, very much so.

MR.

:

Okay.

All right.

American 77, we're trying to find h i m , trying to find what latest we had on him.

We've got a couple

of airplanes that we can't seem to locate. MR.

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Oh,

MR.

:

You know about

God.

11 went in

already, and another went in, and we don't

know

about American 77, where he's at or what he's doing. MR.

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All

right.

Hang on.

:

Checking to see

[Pause . ] MR.

if the

tower has him on the ground. MR.

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Okay.

:

He's not on the

[ Pause.] MR. here.

ground

At least we don't have any paperwork MR.

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Okay.

So he took

MR.

:

Well, I guess.

MR.

:

Hold on, hold on.

on him. off

then all right?

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You know.

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me MR.

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(?)

even be here, not according MR. on.

:

77.

He shouldn't

to t h i s - -

Wait, wait.

Mark, hang

We got a 757 that just hit our radar

west of Virginia. MR.

scope

That might be him. :

What the hell i s - -

MR.

Let me get back to you,

MR.

All

MR.

Houston Center.

MR.

Stand by,

MR.

[ inaudible] .

MR.

Stand by, please.

MR.

[ inaudible] .

MR.

Stand by.

MR .

[ inaudible] .

MR .

Stand by.

MR .

New York Center.

MR.

Stand by.

MR .

Kansas

MR .

Stand by, Kansas City.

Mark . right .

Houston.

City.

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me

Waiting for two more to come up real quick here. Hey, guys, this is Command Center.

Here's

reference(?), Dulles, National, and Baltimore would like you to ground stop all flights to those airports at Dulles, National, and Baltimore indefinitely, please. MR.

:

How about Philly?

Because that's real close. MR.

Ground stop Philly, too

Ground stop them all MR .

Houston, got it.

MR .

All right.

MR.

All right.

MS .

Cleveland.

MR.

:

Thank you.

Hey, Cleveland

(?)

ground stop all your flights into Washington metro area, please. MS.

:

I'm sorry.

Ground stop

MR.

:

Ground stop all flights

which- -

to Washington metro area, Dulles, National, and Bait imore.

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me MS .

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Okay.

We' 11 do

it .

MR .

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USA.

MS .

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While I have you--

MR.

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Who is this?

MS .

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This is Washington

MR.

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I'm sorry.

MS .

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Yeah, Washington.

MR .

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Go ahead, Wash.

MS .

:

(?)

MR.

:

Ground stop all your

Thank you.

I'm sorry.

Who's this?

Center. Washington

Center?

, what do you need?

flights, everything ground stop anyway to the New York area.

all

(?)

You know about that, right?

MS.

:

Yeah.

MR.

:

Okay.

USA.

(?)

ground stop

They're ground stopping everything

into the B.C. metro area also right now. MR.

:

Atlanta's got a question.

Are we going to have to hold the B.C. metres, or will Wash be able to accommodate what's in the air?

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MR.

:

(?)

what's in the air.

I believe there shouldn't be a problem. we want everything ground

Right now

stopped, what's on the

ground, just keep them there for a while until we get everything squared

away here.

MR.

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Okay.

MR.

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All right.

MS .

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You want us to ground

MR .

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Ye s, please.

MS .

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Okay.

MR.

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All

MR.

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Command Center?

MR .

:

(?)

MR.

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Okay.

MR .

:

I wanted to check,

Thank you.

stop ours, too, right?

right.

Thank you.

Command

Center?

s i n c e - - i s Philly kind of

(?)

, please. What do you need?

space?

Can they

get - MR.

:

I tell you what.

got a guy on the ground--! tell you what.

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me ground everything in the system right now. Everything's going to be stopped in and out of everywhere.

We don't know who's doing what.

MR.

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I understand.

MR .

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Okay.

MR .

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We got a couple

MR.

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Okay.

MR.

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If Wash can get them into

:

Okay.

:

Yeah, that's what I'm

(?)

airborne .

approach-MR . airborne, then

(?)

MR. working on.

If they're already

(?)

everything on the ground,

believe me. MR.

:

Yeah, we got a third

airplane missing right now, so we don't know what's going on . MR.

We got one here missing.

MR .

Okay.

MR.

Yeah .

Okay, who's that?

Indy?

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me MR.

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Wash is up.

Go ahead,

MR.

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Wash.

MS .

:

Yes .

MR .

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We've got three Philly's

Wash .

airborne.

Indy.

Can you guys get Philly's down to

approach from your airspace? MS.

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in the area now.

Ahh, we hardly have any

Hold on.

MR.

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Okay.

:

We're holding our

[ Pause . ] MS.

Philly's

right now also. MR.

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getting them in either.

Okay.

Okay.

So you're not

I thought since

they were positioned where they are you might be able to get them in.

All right.

We'll tell them

to expect to divert then. MS.

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Okay.

MR.

:

All right.

MS .

Thanks.

Command Center, Wanda.

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:

John, Cleveland TMU.

We

just told you about United 93. MS .

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93 ?

MR.

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United 93.

MS.

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Yeah, we got that.

MR.

:

All right.

you about him on

We just told

(?)

Well, we have

a p i l o t - - a second pilot confirm that that's what United 93 said on our frequency, so we've got confirmation of what was said, that there is a problem-MS. all your towers.

: Nobody

Okay.

(?)

(?)

nowhere.

ground stop

MR.

:

I've already done that.

MS.

:

Okay.

MR.

:

Hey, Indy?

MR.

:

Yeah?

MR.

:

Were you on the

Hold on.

conference where I asked about any suspicious aircraft ? MR .

Yeah .

MR .

Okay.

I w a s - - I missed

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me

someone.

I thought it was you.

Okay.

Thanks a

lot . MR.

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No.

It was Boston you

MR.

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Oh, thank you.

MR.

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Okay.

MR.

:

Command Center, this is

MR .

:

This is Tim.

MR.

:

Jim, did you hear that,

:

Yeah,

missed.

right.

John.

That's

Thank you.

Who's this?

that United 93-MR.

information on United 93. MR.

:

I have the

We are aware of that. Okay, because we did get

another — he's climbing right now. MR.

:

already aware of that. MR.

Okay.

Yeah, we're

Thanks, Cleveland. :

Okay.

Thanks.

MR.

Boston.

MR.

Boston, this is Tim at

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me

the Command Center. everyone

I had a conference with

just a couple minutes ago.

It had t o - - i t

had to do with identifying any suspicious aircraft. I suppose you guys are in — in that posture at this time, but you were not on the telcom. everyone

I asked

if they have any missing aircraft or any

suspect aircraft to advise us. think you're already

Like

I said, I

in that posture, but I just

wanted to cover all bases. MR.

Got it.

MR.

All right.

MS .

Command Center, Wanda.

MR.

Hey, Wanda, this is Line

Thanks.

at Northwest MS.

:

Yes, Line .

MR.

:

We just need to know,

we've got a couple flights going to Washington National

area.

They're not in the airspace yet.

Are they even going to let them go, or should we just turn them around MS.

now? :

Okay.

You say they want

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to land at Washington MR.

National? :

W e l l , yeah, t h e i r - - t h e i r

destinations are, I think, Washington N a t i o n a l - MS .

:

Are

they going

through

New York? MR.

No .

MS. ground

:

stop departure.

Okay.

What we did

People in the air,

depending on their destination, unless anything

was

there's

that comes along their route of flight,

they're — at this point, no, we have not stopped landing as well. MR.

Okay .

MS .

I mean, we can't do that.

MR .

Right.

MS .

Okay?

MR.

As long

As long--

as they

don't

enter New York's airspace, they--

airspace

MS.

:

Right .

MR.

:

Okay.

MS.

:

Anybody going to New

lands somewhere

else.

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me

MR .

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Okay.

MR .

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Okay.

Thank you.

MS .

:

Okay?

If you've got any

other i s sue s

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canvassing(?) people

got an unusual transmission.

(?)

So if you've got

anything else that you might want to add o r - MR.

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Okay.

MS.

:

--something that we might

need to know, because there's supposed to be more ai rplane s. MR.

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Okay.

MS.

:

Okay?

MR.

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All right.

MS.

:

Command Center, Wanda.

MR.

:

Wanda, how you doing?

This is Bob Birch (ph) at the TrayCon

Thanks.

(?).

MS.

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Hi, Bob.

MR.

:

Listen, we're — we're

thinking here that this could possibly--! guess you're aware of what's happenened. MS.

:

Yeah.

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MR.

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We're thinking that this

could possibly be a national

type thing.

MS.

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Yeah.

MR.

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And maybe you want to

consider stopping any aircraft movements anywhere in the country. MS.

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We've done that.

MR.

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You have, okay.

MS.

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We stopped all

departures.

Of course, those that are already up

have to land somewhere. MR.

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Right .

MS.

:

If you've got

issues

or

something reported that you don't think they should land

(?) MR.

land at your airport, anyway. :

Oh, no, we

stopped

everything - [Simultaneous conversation.] MS. (?)

.

:

--land in your airport

People that land in other airports that are

airborne that we can't extend we're trying

in .

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Okay .

MS .

But we stopped

MR .

Okay.

everything

else.

Thanks a lot.

MS.

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Command Center, Wanda.

MR.

:

Wanda, I don't know if

you heard, but we had a crash into the Pentagon by a 737.

I think it's a 737 or 757. MS .

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737 or

MR .

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Shut down all arrivals

:

--crashed into the

757--

into National Airport. MS. Pentagon.

National is shut down.

MR.

:

Right.

MS.

:

National.

Nat ional

Nat ional.

Command Center, Wanda

MS .

[No re sponse.] MS .

Command Center, Wanda

MR.

Hi, Wanda.

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me

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(ph).

I'm the Oceanic

MS.

:

MR.

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Yeah. Here's

just did it about five minutes can undo

it.

supervisor.

what I did, and

I

ago, and then you

That's not a big problem.

Or you can

tell me, give me some direction, which is what I hope you'11 do. MS.

:

MR.

:

which is the British. is the Portuguese.

Okay. I called Shanwick

(ph),

I called Santa Maria, which

These

feed me traffic, European

are the individuals that traffic.

I told them to

stop any departures that have not already taken off destined for the United States.

MS .

Good .

MR.

Now —

MS .

And

MR.

Whatever's in the air I

will take from them MS. MR.

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:

Okay. However-- and, again, I

reiterate, stop any departures destined for the

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United States that have not already taken off.

If

you want me to do something else, I'tn-MS .

:

Oh, no.

That's good.

Anybody else that you think might--that you can stop, go ahead and stop them. MR.

But - -

:

Now, Wanda, I have

MS.

:

Yeah.

MR.

:

The Canadians probably

another question.

have about a hundred flights that are airborne now destined for the United States. MS.

:

Okay.

Let me make sure--

MR.

:

We need to give them--or

you need to give them some kind of guidance, and I need to know what that guidance is. MS. up now.

:

Okay.

Let me bring them

You know they just had another one? MR.

:

Yes, I do.

MS.

:

Okay.

MR.

:

Traffic management

MS.

:

It's Wanda,

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me Command Center.

I got New York Center up.

Right

now we need a count on how many airplanes you have headed towards the U.S. Hi .

This is

MR .

I

guess- -Gander' s ( ?) probably working a bunch of them.

It looks like, you know, they've got the

usual flow, which i s - MS.

:

Okay.

We need to put

them down in your airspace if we can. [Simultaneous conversation.] MS. me--wait.

:

Well, wait.

Let me back up.

take a deep breath here. supervisor, okay?

Okay.

Let

I'm going to

Let me talk to my

Hold on.

MR.

:

Hey, Canada?

MR.

:

Yes?

MR.

:

This is New York Center.

I just want to let you know that right now it looks like we're probably not going to land any airports in the United States in the foreseeable future. (?)

got the Command Center on here, so I know

Gander's(?) got all that European traffic heading

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Yeah.

So what we're

going to try and do is land that in Mirabel (?) or Gander or wherever. MR.

:

Command Center wants

W e l l , we'll see what the

to do and what

they

ant i c ipate- MS.

:

Yeah

MR.

:

Yeah?

MS .

(?)

Toronto?

Can we stop those

a i rplane s ? MR.

We've stopped

everything

MS .

Okay, but the ones that

(?)

are airborne — MR.

We're going to land in

Canadian - MS .

We want them to land in

Canadian airspace MR .

Yeah .

MS .

Okay.

MR .

And, Wanda?

Thank you.

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Yeah?

MS .

MR.

:

Now,

this stop is going

to be in e f f e c t - - i s somebody going t o - MS .

Until further advised.

MR.

Further advised.

Okay.

Canada, you got that? MR .

Yeah .

MS .

All right.

MR.

Thank you.

MS .

Bye .

MS.

:

Command Center, Wanda. Hey, Boston?

Bye-bye.

Command Center, Wanda. Hey, Boston?

Hey, Boston?

Hey,

Boston?

Hey, Boston?

[No response.] [Pause . ] MS.

:

Hey, Boston?

MS.

:

Command Center, Wanda.

MR.

:

Hey, Wanda, this is

[No response.]

Philly.

I don't know if anybody's asked or the

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question's been answered,

but we're getting a lot

of calls from VFR(?) towers asking whether they should withhold takeoff clearance to VFR aircraft. MS.

:

Okay.

Hold on.

:

No VFRs either.

[ Pause . ] MS.

Towers

can withhold takeoff clearance. MR.

:

Okay.

Thank you very

MS.

:

No VFRs either.

much . Hello?

Are you still there? [No response.]

Command Center, Wanda.

MS .

Hey, Indy?

Command Center, Wanda MR.

Wanda, yes, this is Indy

MS .

Yeah .

MR.

:

We've got a Northwest

1888 about 30 miles southwest of Indianapolis headed for Detroit. MR.

:

[inaudible].

MR.

:

It is an Airbus 319.

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code is 2731, if you can follow him. Detroit.

He's going to hit 37,000.

precautionary.

He is

(?)

He's going to This is just

lost his radio.

He

momentarily descended and then went right back to his altitude at

(?)

He's still on course.

370.

So we're tracking h i m .

But we stopped talking to

him and h e - - a n d he dipped his altitude, giving us the impression that there might be something unusual with him. MS .

In your airspace,

Northwest 1888-He's in our airspace.

MR. He's currently-MS .

--Airbus 319 headed to

MR.

Yes .

MS .

And he's on course

MR .

He's on course.

Detroit .

He's 20

miles southwest of Indianapolis right now. MS.

:

Okay.

As far as your VFR

towers, w e - - a t this point we don't even want any (?)

departing.

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MR.

We

h a v e - - w e have said we don't want VFR, IFR, anything depart ing. MS.

:

Right, nothing.

MR.

:

That's correct.

MS .

Good.

Thank you

MR .

Thank you.

Bye.

MS.

:

Command Center, Wanda.

MR.

:

Hi, Wanda.

We just got a

phone call from somebody in the Eastern Region that said that we're not to allow anybody to land at Dulles anymore.

I don't know what's going on yet,

but I'll get back to you in a minute.

There might

be some confusion as to what's going on. MS. that?

:

Okay—who called you with

Did you get a name? MR.

:

What's his name?

Freddy

what? Freddy Valerio

MR .

(ph),

Eastern Region QA MS .

Freddy Malerio (ph), E A - -

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QA, said don't airport.

let anyone

else land at this

I don't know what's up with that. MS.

:

Okay.

MR.

:

Okay.

MS.

:

Thanks.

Boston Center.

MR .

MS. Center.

Valerio, Eastern Region

:

Yeah, Wanda, Command

I'm waiting on a couple more. MR.

:

[inaudible] Center.

MS.

:

The Eastern Region has

decided that no one--no other airplanes will be landing at Washington Dulles. MS.

:

Wash

MS.

:

Wash, for you, did you

get the word

(?)

from Dulles that they're not supposed

to land any more airplanes? MS.

:

No, actually we didn't.

MS.

:

Okay.

Dulles tower.

I just

talked with

He does not have all the details,

but the Eastern Region has told them don't land any

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more airplanes at that airport. MS.

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Okay.

MS.

:

So w h a t - -

MS .

:

[inaudible] .

MS.

:

Beg your pardon?

MS.

:

National's

:

N a - - w e l l , National didn't

also closed

he re, isn't it? MS. call.

Now all I have is Dulles.

You can go ahead

and do National and get it over with, if that's--! have no problem with that.

So what we need to do

is once the airborne that want to go to those two airports, they're going to have to land

somewhere

else.

MS .

All right.

MS .

Okay?

MS .

What about Baltimore?

Baltimore's okay?

MS .

(?)

Baltimore here

momentarily.

MS .

Okay.

MS .

Okay .

Thanks.

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[ Pause.]

MS .

Are you still there?

MR .

Indy i s here.

MS .

Indy?

MR .

Yeah?

MS .

I was telling the other

person here for Washington Center that we're not landing any airplanes at Washington Dulles-MR.

:

I understand.

MS .

--or Washington National

MR .

All right.

MS .

And were you calling

back--what about Northwest

We have him back in

MR.

contact.

1888?

He has a normal operations f l i g h t , no MS.

:

No problem, okay.

MR.

:

--situation there.

MS .

All right.

Thanks.

MR.

All right.

Bye.

MS .

Command Center, Wanda.

MR.

Wanda, Ed Duwacey

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Boston Center.

I have a question for you about

t h e - - t h e non-movement of aircraft.

(?)

several

law enforcement agencies, State Police units, Omaha call signs(?) that are trying to relocate to places closer to New York City. MS.

that one.

:

Okay.

That should work.

MR.

:

We didn't visit

We don't--

We were going to

obviously let those folks — MS.

:

Okay.

MR.

:

—

MS.

:

As long a s - -

MR.

:

I wanted to make sure you

(?)

business and move

along.

don't have any problems with that stuff. MS.

:

--problem with that, as

long as you can work them or they can get to where they're going.

Wherever they want to go, they're

not taking any airplanes.

That's a different

issue . MR.

:

Well, that's--that's

going to be their issue.

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MS.

:

Okay.

MR.

:

We're making sure that

the pilots are aware that there's flight restrictions and--and all that type stuff going on. MS.

:

And they may have to have

:

And if they're prepared,

an alternat e. MR.

to do whatever they need to, but we did want to make sure that the law enforcement units can move. So we will let them go MS .

Okay .

MR.

Okay .

MS .

All right

MR .

Thank you

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:

This is a continuation of

Position 25A, Tape 3.

Time now,

Zulu.

MS.

:

Command Center, Wanda.

MR.

:

Hi, Wanda.

We just got a

phone call from somebody in the Eastern Region that said that we're not to allow anybody to land at Dulles anymore.

I don't know what's going on yet,

but I'll get back to you in a minute.

There might

be some confusion as to what's going on. MS.

that?

:

Okay — who called you with

Did you get a name? MR.

:

What's his name?

Freddy

MR.

:

Freddy Valeric (ph),

MS.

:

Freddy Malerio

MR.

:

Valeric, Eastern Region

what ?

Eastern Region QA. (ph), E A - -

QA, said don't let anyone else land at this airport.

I don't know what's up with that. MS.

:

Okay.

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Okay .

MS .

Thanks.

MR .

Boston Center.

MS. Center.

:

Yeah, Wanda, Command

I'm waiting on a couple more. MR.

:

[inaudible] Center.

MS.

:

The Eastern Region has

decided that no one--no other airplanes will be landing at Washington Dulles. MS.

:

Wash

(?)

MS.

:

Wash, for you, did you

get the word from Dulles that they're not supposed to land any more airplanes? MS.

:

No, actually we didn't.

MS.

:

Okay.

Dulles tower.

I just talked with

He does not have all the details,

but the Eastern Region has told them don't land any more airplanes at that airport. MS.

:

Okay.

MS.

:

So w h a t - -

MS .

[ inaudible] .

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:

Beg your pardon?

MS .

;

National's also closed

:

N a - - w e l l , National didn't

here, isn't it ? MS. call.

Now all I have is Dulles.

You can go ahead

and do National and get it over with, if that's--! have no problem with that.

So what we need to do

is once the airborne that want to go to those two airports, they're going to have to land somewhere else.

MS .

All right.

MS .

Okay?

MS .

What about Baltimore?

Baltimore's okay?

MS .

(?)

Baltimore here

momentarily.

MS .

Okay.

MS .

Okay .

Thanks .

[ Pause.]

MS .

Are you still there?

MR .

Indy is here.

MS .

Indy?

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Yeah?

MR .

MS.

:

I was telling the other

person here for Washington

Center that we're not

landing any airplanes at Washington D u l l e s - MR.

:

I understand.

MS .

--or Washington

MR .

All right.

MS .

And were you calling

b a c k - - w h a t about Northwest MR. contact.

:

National

1888?

We have him back in

He has a normal operations f l i g h t , no MS.

:

No problem, okay.

MR.

:

- - s i t u a t i o n there.

MS .

All right.

Thanks

MR.

All right.

Bye.

MS.

:

Command Center, Wanda.

MR.

:

Wanda, Ed Duwacey

Boston Center.

I have a question

(ph) at

for you about

t h e - - t h e non-movement of aircraft.

(?)

several

law enforcement agencies, State Police units, Omaha call signs (?) that are trying to relocate to places

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:

Okay.

That should work.

MR.

:

We didn't visit

We d o n ' t - -

We were going to

obviously let those folks-MS.

:

Okay.

MR.

:

—

(?)

MS .

:

As

long as - -

MR.

:

I wanted to make sure you

business and move

along.

don't have any problems with that stuff. MS.

:

—problem with that, as

long as you can work them or they can get to where they're going.

Wherever they want to go, they're

not taking any airplanes.

That's a different

i ssue . MR.

:

Well, that's--that's

going to be their issue. MS.

:

Okay.

MR.

:

We're making sure that

the pilots are aware that there's flight restrictions and--and all that type stuff going on.

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MS.

:

And they may have to have

:

And if they're prepared,

an al t e mat e .

MR.

to do whatever they need to, but we did want to make sure that the law enforcement units can move. So we will let them go

Center.

MS .

Okay .

MR.

Okay .

MS .

All right

MR .

Thank you

MS.

:

Wash

(?) .

MS.

:

Wash, Wanda, Command

We want to send two people out there as a

backup. MS.

:

Okay.

MS.

:

Okay?

Can you tell your

:

Yeah.

We need to know

ops manager? MS. the names.

I think we're in a lockdown

MS .

:

here.

When we get the names,

we'11 call you

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Okay.

Thanks.

MS .

All right.

MS .

Command Center, Wanda.

MR .

Wanda, Bill Hallick

(ph),

American Airlines MS.

:

MR.

:

Hi, Bill.

[inaudible].

Hey,

we're--we're going to have to send a go ( ?) team up to New York, and we need to get an exception.

We

want to take a 757, all of our people, put it on there, and fly it up there. MS.

:

You got a call sign yet?

MR.

:

Not yet, but I just want

to know what we need to do. MS .

What airport you coming

MR .

It would be out of DFW.

MS .

Hold on.

out of?

Hold on.

[ Pause.] Do you want to go to

MR.

LaGuardia or Kennedy?

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:

Well, they haven't said

My guess is probably Kennedy, but — MR.

:

Okay.

MR.

:

Yeah.

MR.

:

Because right now we're

still in a bit of a crisis

Hang on a second.

here, as you can

underst and. MR.

:

We'll g o - - w e ' l l probably

MS.

:

Okay, Bill?

MR.

:

Yes.

MS.

:

Let me have Joe

go anywhere we can get.

pick you up.

(?)

I'm wondering if you can get

closer--if you can get close enough

and go by bus

or something? MR.

:

Well, no, t h e - - a l l of the

players on the go team are here in our Command Center. MS.

:

Right, but

I'm saying if

we can get you close to New York and then you go from there by v e h i c l e - MR.

:

Ahh,

(?)

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:

Hold on.

Let me have the

TCA pick this up, but that might be something you-MR.

:

Okay.

MS.

:

--could sort o f - - y o u

know, if they can't give you an airport in New York.

Okay?

Hold on.

[Pause . ] MR.

:

So whatever he can do to

accommodate whoever needs to get in there, we need to use h i s - - h i s runways. MR.

:

I will pass that on.

MR.

:

Thank you.

MR.

:

Excuse me?

MR.

manager

Let me pass this on to a

( ?)

MR.

Okay .

[ Pause.] MS.

:

Command Center, Wanda.

MR.

:

Yeah, hey, Wanda.

is Pete with Spirit Airlines.

This

I'm trying to get

onto this hotline number here. MS .

:

Which hotline?

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lot of them. MR.

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I don't know, j u s t - - I ' m

just--what is it, the 5 - 1 - 3 - 9 ?

I can't seem

to — it's just saying all lines are busy.

You guys

have another extension into that? Okay.

MS .

So you're looking

for the user hotline? MR.

Yes, ma'am.

MS .

Okay, hold on.

MR.

We're just trying to

figure out what's going on. [Pause . ] MS.

:

Yes .

MR.

MS.

You still there?

:

Okay.

I'm going to put

you on hold and have them bring you in.

What's

your name again? MR.

:

This is Pete with Spirit

MS.

:

Pete.

Okay, hold on.

MS .

Command Center, Wanda.

MR.

Wanda, this is Ken.

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me didn't get the guy's name. MS.

:

He called here

Uh-huh.

MR.

And- -

MS .

Yes?

MR.

We know that the Medix(1

411 we were working is now Medix 411 Alpha and he's landing Columbus.

He's four north at Nichols(?)

intersection at 4,000 feet. MS.

:

Okay.

MR.

:

So w e - - w e know where that

MS .

;

Okay.

MR.

:

Okay .

MS.

:

Command Center, Wanda.

MR.

:

Yeah, Wanda.

airplane's at.

Thanks.

anything November 4 coming MS.

:

Thank you.

You know

into DCA?

They're

working that

issue . MR

Okay .

MS .

That's the Attorney

General.

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Right.

MS .

Okay .

MR.

And

I just imagine we're

going to have to give them clearance

to land.

MS .

I would suspect so.

MR .

Okay .

MS .

How—are you looking at

him on the

radar?

MR.

Yeah, he's--

MS .

How far out is he?

MR.

:

He's west of Detroit

about 7 7 - - i t says 77 minutes out but probably-- that's what it says. MS.

:

Talk to the center, too,

and make sure.

MR.

Okay .

MS .

It's being worked

MR .

Right.

on.

Are you going to

talk to them? MS.

:

Well, they're going to

hand him off to you, aren't they? MR.

:

Right, b u t - -

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Okay .

MR .

--are they going to know

that he's authorized o r - MS. coordinated.

:

I'm sure that's been

But just when you take him, you make

sure .

to the

MR

All right.

MS

How's that?

MR

All right.

MS

All right.

MS.

:

Command Center, Wanda.

MR.

:

Hey, Wanda.

(?)

In reference

everybody, I can let these helicopters

go and do their patrols over downtown and that kind of stuff, can I? MS.

:

Yes, from what I

understand, law enforcement are able to move. MR.

:

Okay.

Thanks.

MS.

:

You have that

your airspace-MR.

Yes

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--your area?

Okay.

MR.

They're going to be over

downtown Atlanta MS.

:

So you'll be knowing for

sure that they are what they say they are.

:

MR.

Boston.

Yes.

MS .

Okay .

MR.

Okay.

Bye

MS.

:

Command Center, Wanda.

MR.

:

Yeah, Wanda, Terry in

Just to let you know we have nobody

in this building except about six of us. have nobody.

left

So we

There will be no more airplanes.

MS.

:

Okay.

Hold on.

:

Okay.

Yeah, they know,

MR.

Okay.

Thanks.

MR .

Indy

MR.

Indy, yeah, this is

[Pause . ] MS. Boston.

[inaudible].

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Command Center again.

I'm still trying to get an

update on the American 77.

I know they went out a

while ago to look to see what was going on out there. MR.

:

When we get more

information, we'll let you know.

Right now there's

a State Police helicopter down there looking

around

and that's it. MR.

How far--how far is it?

MR .

How far is what?

MR. airport

(?)

: York?

That s i t e - - i t ' s near the

Is there a small airport

there? MR.

:

It's actually in Boyd(?),

which is probably a hundred miles from Columbus. MR.

:

Okay.

they're doing the best they can.

I guess--I'm sure Okay.

MR.

:

Okay.

MR.

:

All right.

MS

Thanks.

Good morning.

Tower.

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:

Command Center. MS.

not

How are you?

:

I'm good.

Actually, I'm

:

Yeah, well, we're all not

MS.

:

Right.

MR.

:

Hey, listen, I'm not

good, but - MR.

good

Hey, Columbus Tower, good

today.

sure

if you're aware of it or not, but there's American 77 that's missing. MS.

:

An American 707?

MR.

American 77.

MS .

Okay .

MR.

I t ' s an MD-80

MS.

:

All

right.

MR.

:

And

I was just wondering,

someone said it went down someplace, thinking they had gone down about by York. MS.

:

Okay.

MR.

:

Which

is about, what, 75

miles south of you guys? MS.

:

Yes.

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H o w - - i s that a remote

MS .

Yes .

MR.

It's a remote area.

area?

How

long will it take for someone to get out there, just kind of verify if an airplane did indeed go down, or maybe not? MS.

:

To get

to York?

MR.

:

Yeah.

MS.

:

Fifteen minutes by plane.

MR.

:

Do you

have anyone

t h a t - - d o you have anyone down there, a State Police number down there, something like that, you could call?

MS .

:

I'll find something

:

Okay.

Hold on a second. [ Pause.]

MS .

second to figure it out

MR .

:

It'll take me a

It's right on the line. What state is that,

anyway?

MS .

West Virginia.

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:

Okay.

MS.

:

I had to run down there

and look it up. MR.

Let's see. :

It seems like it's

border1ine(?) in West Virginia, Ohio, and I guess what that--just south of that-MS. south.

:

Yeah, I don't go that far

Can I call you back and see if I can find a

number? MR.

:

If you find a number,

just call--can you call someone down there, the State Police or someone in the local area, to just try to get some information as far as if there is indeed something that looks like-MS.

:

Okay.

MR.

:

- - a plane crash or some

information that we could use here, because we got like about eight airplanes missing in the system. MS.

:

I understand.

MR.

:

And I'm sure you know

what's gone on already, so--

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Okay.

:

All right?

And the

MR.

:

That is correct.

MS.

:

Okay.

MR.

:

All right.

MS.

:

Bye.

MR.

:

Thank you.

MS .

I'll do that

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:

This is a continuation of

tapes, Position 25A, Tape 4.

Time now,

Zulu.

MS.

:

Command Center, Wanda.

MR .

:

Dulles Tower

MR.

:

Hey, yeah, this is

[No response.]

Command

Center here

(?)

American 77 that took off

earlier?

locate

MR .

:

Yes .

MR

:

We're still trying to

him.

Do you know what type he was?

MR

:

I believe he was Boeing

MR.

:

It was a 7-5 also.

MR.

:

Yes.

757 .

Stand by.

I just got some kind of word on it.

I think

Stand by.

[Pause . ] MR.

:

No, we have no word on

him .

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MR.

No word, huh?

MR

No .

MR

Okay.

MR

All right.

All right

Thanks.

MR. Michaels (?). MR. Command Center.

:

Bye.

American Dispatch,

Can I help you? :

Yes, this is Denzel at

I'm trying to locate Flight 77 out

of Dulles to L.A. earlier. MR.

:

We're also looking for

him . MR. him.

You're also looking for

Okay. So far no luck.

MR

MR. right.

:

No luck.

Okay.

Thank you very much. MR.

:

All right.

[Phone call placed, busy signal.]

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:

Command Center, Wanda.

MR.

:

Yeah, Wanda, we just

disconnected ourselves question was: target?

from the telcom.

Was that USAir

The answer

is:

The last

flight a tracked!?)

We can't tell.

We're just

looking at them on the TST ( ?) . MS.

you in?

I'm

Okay.

Which

(?)

were

:

I don't know which one it

sorry.

MR.

is.

:

The national.

Everyone's

MS.

on that.

:

Okay.

Hold on.

You need

:

No, we're going to dial

to be brought back in? MR.

in.

I'm just letting you know if you need to tell

them . MS .

:

The USAir

MR.

:

We don't know if it's

tracked or not

flight--

On the TST we can't tell if it's

tracked. MS .

:

Okay.

MR .

:

We don't have him on

What about on the

radar?

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MS

Thank you.

MR.

:

You just let us know.

MR.

:

Yeah, I know.

MR .

:

Okay.

MS .

:

Hey, Dulles?

MR .

:

They're

You got everybody

stopped over there?

telling me

there's a Fairfax helicopter somewhere to the southeast of us, but not here. MR.

:

Thanks, guy.

MS.

:

Hey, Dulles?

MR.

:

Yes?

I

appreciate it.

MS .

Don't hang up

MR .

I'm not.

MS.

:

Okay.

My manager

says

that you need to evacuate. MR.

:

I'm sorry?

MS.

:

Hold on, hold on.

Okay.

They need for you to stand by in

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preparation to evacuate. MR.

:

Okay.

W e l l , you

tell us

when we're ordered out.

All right.

MS .

Let me double

check. [ Pause.] Is this Command Center?

MR .

MS.

:

Okay.

Is there a

helicopter, an aircraft circling your-MR.

:

Yes, there's a helicopter

just southeast, a Fairfax police helicopter. MS. one helicopter

: is.

Are you--you know who the

It's the Fairfax police.

What

about the other one? MR.

:

What other one?

We don't

:

Oh, it's only one and

have any other. MS.

it's the Fairfax County Police. MR. MS

:

Correct.

Okay.

All right, then

Never mind. MR

Disregard, yes, ma'am.

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MS .

Steve.

Goodbye.

MS.

:

Command Center, Wanda.

MR.

:

Hey, Wanda, this is

I think you called me earlier

on

November

4. MS .

MR.

Yeah .

:

Okay.

:

Again?

He's asking now to

go to Reagan. MS. had worked

I thought

they

out for him to go to Richmond.

MR.

:

I know, but

I guess he's

changed his request, and he also wants the military to know h i s - - t h a t he's approved and his code, his speaking code. MS.

:

We don't want n o - -

MR.

:

That's right.

MS.

:

Okay.

been coordinated MR.

Hold on.

It's

several times already. :

Okay.

Okay.

I just--I

just wanted to confirm that that's all been d o n e - -

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MS .

(?)

MR.

request i s .

The last request was to

MS .

go to Richmond, from what I've been told. MR .

Okay .

MS .

Let m e - - h o l d on.

[ Pause . ] MR.

Hey, Wanda?

[ Pause . ] MS .

Hey, Indy?

MR.

Yeah .

MS.

:

They're double-cheeking,

but last we heard, nobody is going to National. MR.

:

Okay.

And

(?)

is

talking to Southeast Air Defense right now, and he's also requesting a fighter escort in.

So

that's the request he has, so I thought I'd pass that along to you. MS.

Okay? :

Okay, but he's not going

to Nat ional. MR.

I know.

That's--he's

requesting to change destinations with a fighter

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That's his request.

So he's talking to

the Air Defense, and I don't know who else needs to know this.

I just thought I'd call and tell you

what—what his request MS.

is. :

still discussing that.

Okay?

Okay.

Hold on.

They're

Do you think you got

somebody that can hold on here? MR.

:

I tell you what, if you

want to h a v e - - t a l k to Doug on the telcom line, we can do it that way.

Or you want me to just wait on

this line. MS.

:

Okay.

They'll

call you

back on the telcom and ask for Doug. MR.

:

Okay.

MS.

:

All

MR.

:

Thanks.

MR. MS. Center.

Looking

right.

Wash Center. :

Wash, Wanda, Command

for--look on your radar.

We're

looking to see if you have--tracking a primary target in the area of Pennsylvania headed towards

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I don't know how they're going to know

where--where they're going, but I guess they're headed eastbound MR.

:

Primary target?

MS.

:

Primary target,

eastbound, over in the area of Pennsylvania toward--headed towards D.C. MR.

:

You're talking Pittsburgh

area or north of D.C. or... We don't have a lot of

MS .

information.

Just a primary target.

MR.

:

All

right .

MS.

:

And I guess if you watch

it for a while, which way it's tracking, if it's headed towards D.C. MR.

:

All right.

We'll

keep--any more information, just keep an eye out, we'll call you back if we see something. MS.

:

Okay.

Who's this?

MR.

:

This is Mike.

MS .

Okay.

MR.

All right.

Thanks, Mike

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