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June 11, 2004 Dear Editor in Chief, A continuation of previous topic: Next controversial thing is: e) Jesus Christ is human only: Quote: John 1:30: This is the one I was talking about when I said, ‘man is coming after me, but he is greater than I am, because he existed before I was born.’ Matthew 1:21: she will have a son, and you will name him-Jesusbecause he will save his people from their sins. Luke 3: 23-38...the son of Adam, the son of God. Unquote. vs. Jesus is God only: Quote: John1:1...the Word already existed; he was with God, and he was the same as God.( perhaps words still not sufficient that Christ is God rather Christ is just “the same as God” but not God because there is only one God) Unquote. vs. combination of both human & God: Quote: John 1:14: The Word became a human being...Verse 18...The only Son, who is the same as God...Romans3:30 & Galatians 3:20:... God is one. Matthew 28:19: Go, then, to all peoples everywhere and make them my disciples: baptize them in the name of the father, the son, and the Holy Spirit. Unquote. vs. Jesus is an alien with very advance technology. A scholar asked: “Others said that the trinity or One God with three divine persons is a mystery and could not be understood by man; would you please give your own simple opinion about the controversy? The controversial teacher said; anyway since it is just an opinion any body could give his own opinion and acknowledge it as not the ultimate truth; but if one claims a controversial thing could now be explained because of a “vision” and because there is a “voice” and claims the controversial thing/s as “ultimate truth”, one might be accused of having “proud claim”; perhaps boosting superiority of religion that causes distinction, division and hating and even terrorism. My opinion is: perhaps since God is spirit, the creator of this universe; one God; and since perhaps God has no mouth, no hand, God knows that in the future a speaker phone would be invented, a virtual effects could be invented imitating example the Burning bush and speaking as if invisible and the Burning bush could be proven to men that the scene depicted on Moses seeing God and hearing God could now be explained or be used in magic show; and could be possible through technology; so God could be disproved as a Supernatural Being instead as an impostor claiming to be the creator of the universe; he could be probably an alien with advanced technology. And so perhaps just after the fall of man, God promised to some prophets or authors of the book of genesis that there would be somebody that would save the world. Perhaps in some later prophesies in other books the savior would be the same as God or his son. But the truth is perhaps that the son is God himself so that to have mouth and hand like human who has soul (soul is perhaps like the computer system where power is on and waiting for a software to be installed) and spirit (spirit is perhaps like the software installed in a personal computer). Then since the Word is plenty which is in God’s “mind” before the creation of the universe and the Word is impractical to say it like a
ghost or “magic” or supernatural phenomena example talking to crowd about the beatitude where the voice is just like coming out anywhere thru the air; or the Word needs concrete human actions; so God decided to become a human like a prophet as one practical reason; but the main reason perhaps is as a Savior or Messiah; as a proof that his Word is beyond physical law-example the son’s resurrection from the dead. And the Holy Spirit perhaps is like the mind of a human but with infinite Supernatural Powers. Example: one opposite characteristics of the Holy Spirit is like of a girl who concentrates and uses her mind and utters words like: “I curse the two strings of the guitar of my naughty brother to be broken because the sounds of the guitar irritate me.” And because of the help perhaps of an “evil angel or spirit” her “word” came true when verified in the morning by the girl. Perhaps the cursing or uttering of bad spell of words or witchcraft has some minor evil supernatural power. But if the word is use for goodness, and the mind conforms and believes called faith then if blessing, healing, good accomplishment happens it could be because of or with the help of the Holy Spirit. Words perhaps like: “I am not worthy to receive you but say the Word and I will be healed” could prove that if God say so and the man believes, it will happen because of the Holy Spirit. The father is in charge of creation and maintaining physical balance in created things in the universe; and the father only is in charge of the end of time; or when the last judgment would happen. So God is one: Father is the invisible creator of the universe; perhaps the father is still continuing the creation because mix breeding is continuing that is perhaps responsible why there is now high breed or high yielding variety of live stocks; where live stocks have more of meat than fat. The son is the Wordrevealed (in scriptures); perhaps some words are instinct or in-born (proof of having good conscience, good will, good intention). And perhaps the Holy Spirit is the Supernatural Power specializes on saving souls by enhancing the power by having faith in the Word by letting the curios mind focus on the Word. (Faith is perhaps connecting & believing with the Supernatural Being regardless of religious affiliation.) Another opinion: Perhaps there are really three divine persons in one God; one is unique from the others and each needs others as one to function as one God; the son is not a creation of the father; nor the Holy Spirit is also the creation of the Father. Example: if the Son nor the angels don’t know the day of the end of the world or perhaps the end of the universe but it is only the father who knows the day of the end, perhaps the son is not the father or the father is not the son. Another opinion is that God is one, the creator; the son or Jesus is a creation who “has been made perfect forever”; perhaps the same rank with other great prophets; or much higher in rank than those great prophets because he is the Messiah: Hebrew 7: 28: Quote: The Law of Moses appoints men who are imperfect to be high priest; but God’s promise made with the vow, which came later than the Law, appoints the Son, who has been made perfect forever. Luke
3: 23-38:...He (Jesus) was the son, so people thought, of Joseph, ....the son of Adam, the son of God. Next controversial thing that if when touch and claim by a group that has the ultimate “only” right interpretation that could cause distinction, division, hating or even conflicts or war or terrorism is f) existence of limbo, purgatory, hell, heaven: Perhaps the legend, story, parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus: words: Luke 16: 19-31 it’s long but verse: 22-23: Quote: The poor man died and was carried by the angels to sit beside Abraham at the feast in heaven. The rich man died and was buried, and in Hades, where he was in great pain, he looked up and saw Abraham, far away, with Lazarus at his side. Luke 16: 29: Abraham said, ‘Your brother have Mosses and the prophets to warn them; your brothers should listen to what they say.’ The rich man answered, ‘That is not enough, father Abraham! But if someone were to rise from the death and go to them, then they would turn from their sins.’ But Abraham said, ‘If they will not listen to Mosses and the prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone were to rise from the death.’” vs. unconscious to conscious-resurrect or conscious to unconscious – death.; 1 Corinthians 15:51-52: Quote: Listen to this secret truth: we shall not all die, but when the last trumpet sounds, we shall all be changed in an instant, as quickly as the blinking of an eye. For when the trumpet sounds, the dead will be raised, never to die again, and we shall all be changed. Notice the key is “we shall not all die”; or the difference of time from the last trumpet sounds to be changed from dead to be raised up example if 40M years from the first parent to the time of stroke of the last judgment, and 1second from the last man before the stroke; or zero for those who will not die. If those alive remain “as is” to be judged, perhaps to have balanced those people that had die and would resurrect on last trumpet sound or stroke would also perhaps be the same with those people alive because if not; there would be bias on the judgment day- one group alive “as is” and the other group who were former dead perhaps would be like virtual reality or ghost. Granting that the former dead would be alive “as is” when they where alive, there are many questions that could be raised, how about example those 4 months old baby as fetus died in the mother’s wound, would the baby complete first its development and be delivered or the baby would be judged “as is” with the mother as pregnant? Or it is God’s problem to solve those concrete legitimate questions or problems. From someone who might be unconsciously creating doubts among groups,
ghost or “magic” or supernatural phenomena example talking to crowd about the beatitude where the voice is just like coming out anywhere thru the air; or the Word needs concrete human actions; so God decided to become a human like a prophet as one practical reason; but the main reason perhaps is as a Savior or Messiah; as a proof that his Word is beyond physical law-example the son’s resurrection from the dead. And the Holy Spirit perhaps is like the mind of a human but with infinite Supernatural Powers. Example: one opposite characteristics of the Holy Spirit is like of a girl who concentrates and uses her mind and utters words like: “I curse the two strings of the guitar of my naughty brother to be broken because the sounds of the guitar irritate me.” And because of the help perhaps of an “evil angel or spirit” her “word” came true when verified in the morning by the girl. Perhaps the cursing or uttering of bad spell of words or witchcraft has some minor evil supernatural power. But if the word is use for goodness, and the mind conforms and believes called faith then if blessing, healing, good accomplishment happens it could be because of or with the help of the Holy Spirit. Words perhaps like: “I am not worthy to receive you but say the Word and I will be healed” could prove that if God say so and the man believes, it will happen because of the Holy Spirit. The father is in charge of creation and maintaining physical balance in created things in the universe; and the father only is in charge of the end of time; or when the last judgment would happen. So God is one: Father is the invisible creator of the universe; perhaps the father is still continuing the creation because mix breeding is continuing that is perhaps responsible why there is now high breed or high yielding variety of live stocks; where live stocks have more of meat than fat. The son is the Wordrevealed (in scriptures); perhaps some words are instinct or in-born (proof of having good conscience, good will, good intention). And perhaps the Holy Spirit is the Supernatural Power specializes on saving souls by enhancing the power by having faith in the Word by letting the curios mind focus on the Word. (Faith is perhaps connecting & believing with the Supernatural Being regardless of religious affiliation.) Another opinion: Perhaps there are really three divine persons in one God; one is unique from the others and each needs others as one to function as one God; the son is not a creation of the father; nor the Holy Spirit is also the creation of the Father. Example: if the Son nor the angels don’t know the day of the end of the world or perhaps the end of the universe but it is only the father who knows the day of the end, perhaps the son is not the father or the father is not the son. Another opinion is that God is one, the creator; the son or Jesus is a creation who “has been made perfect forever”; perhaps the same rank with other great prophets; or much higher in rank than those great prophets because he is the Messiah: Hebrew 7: 28: Quote: The Law of Moses appoints men who are imperfect to be high priest; but God’s promise made with the vow, which came later than the Law, appoints the Son, who has been made perfect forever. Luke
3: 23-38:...He (Jesus) was the son, so people thought, of Joseph, ....the son of Adam, the son of God. Next controversial thing that if when touch and claim by a group that has the ultimate “only” right interpretation that could cause distinction, division, hating or even conflicts or war or terrorism is f) existence of limbo, purgatory, hell, heaven: Perhaps the legend, story, parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus: words: Luke 16: 19-31 it’s long but verse: 22-23: Quote: The poor man died and was carried by the angels to sit beside Abraham at the feast in heaven. The rich man died and was buried, and in Hades, where he was in great pain, he looked up and saw Abraham, far away, with Lazarus at his side. Luke 16: 29: Abraham said, ‘Your brother have Mosses and the prophets to warn them; your brothers should listen to what they say.’ The rich man answered, ‘That is not enough, father Abraham! But if someone were to rise from the death and go to them, then they would turn from their sins.’ But Abraham said, ‘If they will not listen to Mosses and the prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone were to rise from the death.’” vs. unconscious to conscious-resurrect or conscious to unconscious – death.; 1 Corinthians 15:51-52: Quote: Listen to this secret truth: we shall not all die, but when the last trumpet sounds, we shall all be changed in an instant, as quickly as the blinking of an eye. For when the trumpet sounds, the dead will be raised, never to die again, and we shall all be changed. Notice the key is “we shall not all die”; or the difference of time from the last trumpet sounds to be changed from dead to be raised up example if 40M years from the first parent to the time of stroke of the last judgment, and 1second from the last man before the stroke; or zero for those who will not die. If those alive remain “as is” to be judged, perhaps to have balanced those people that had die and would resurrect on last trumpet sound or stroke would also perhaps be the same with those people alive because if not; there would be bias on the judgment day- one group alive “as is” and the other group who were former dead perhaps would be like virtual reality or ghost. Granting that the former dead would be alive “as is” when they where alive, there are many questions that could be raised, how about example those 4 months old baby as fetus died in the mother’s wound, would the baby complete first its development and be delivered or the baby would be judged “as is” with the mother as pregnant? Or it is God’s problem to solve those concrete legitimate questions or problems. From someone who might be unconsciously creating doubts among groups,
