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An Interview with Gordon T. Smith
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Learning Discernment — Guided Meditation
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Learning Discernment (4) — The Spirit Guides Us in Times of Choice
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Listening and Obeying
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Learning Discernment (2) — The Spirit Calls Us to Repentance
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Learning Discernment (1) — The Spirit Assures Us of God’s Love
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Gordon T. Smith is currently serving in interim preaching ministry at Seven Oaks Alliance Church and as president of Overseas Council Canada in British Columbia, Canada. Our friendship with Gordon Smith began in 2001, when he first came to speak at our Spiritual Direction Training Program. We have been blessed to have him as our advisor of Spiritual & Ministry Formation ministry. I still remember when you first came to serve our
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What have these past three years of serving and teaching among the FECA community meant to you? Two things have impressed me about FECA. The first is the quality and intentionality of the approach to spiritual
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formation; it is well designed — comprehensive, biblical, and with a strong emphasis on the individual in community. Naturally, because of my own interest in discernment, I am glad that discernment is a key part of the approach to spiritual formation at FECA.
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Second, I am also impressed with the quality of people who participate; it takes much commitment to stay with the program over the months (and years). These are people with demanding jobs and family responsibilities; yet they appreciate the value of being intentional in spiritual formation. They are eager and committed. And it has been a joy for me to be able to contribute to the work of God in their lives.
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In your doctoral studies, you focused on the subject of discernment, comparing the approaches of John Wesley and Ignatius of Loyola. What motivated you to choose this specific area of research? The reason for choosing to study Ignatius Loyola and John Wesley may not sound all that impressive or spiritual. At the time that I began my studies, I had a growing interest in John Wesley, having just read a biography of him along with his Journal. I was also interested in his emphasis on sanctification in the Christian life. But I was studying at a Jesuit university (Ignatius Loyola is the founder of the Jesuit order) and I thought that the only way that they would let me write a dissertation on Wesley was if I made it a comparative study with Ignatius! Furthermore, at the time, they had a keen interest to see how the thought of Ignatius Loyola compared and contrasted with other spiritual writers. As it turned out, it was tremendously valuable for me to study both of them.
The essential qualities of a discerning person are these: (1) a person whose mind is richly indwelt with the Word of God (a discerning person is a student of the Scriptures); (2) a person in community . . . we know what it means to live in mutuality (mutual submission, mutual service, mutual encouragement). But I should stress, it does not mean that we • 2 •
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What is your own definition of discernment? What are the essential qualities we need to cultivate if we want to become discerning persons? This is a very good question. Briefly speaking, discernment is the spiritual practice by which we weigh and consider inclinations of the heart and the mind to determine what is truly from God. We are attending to the Spirit, seeking to know the mind of God — how God is speaking to us, leading and guiding us.
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You were previously the Vice President and Dean of Regent College. After that, you became the President of Overseas Council. In your journey of changing ministry focus and platform, how did you discern the will of God for this change? This was a very difficult decision for me. I thoroughly enjoyed the work at Regent College and valued the opportunity to give academic leadership and to teach theology and spirituality within the curriculum. But after five years, I sensed that perhaps I had done all that I could do within the administrative responsibility. Furthermore, I also felt that I would only stay if I was sure that it was God’s calling to continue. After much prayer and wrestling of spirit, my wife and I concluded I would not accept another five-year term. Only after that did the opportunity open with Overseas Council. This, in turn, has allowed me to provide leadership to a strategic dimension of Christian missions: the formation of leadership in seminaries and Bible colleges around the world.
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In the Evangelical circle, spirituality is a very popular thing to pursue. We find both wheat and chaff in this phenomenon. What do you think is the DNA of a biblical and balanced Christian spirituality? In my estimation, there are three critical indicators of an authentic Christian spirituality: it is Christ centered, it is biblically oriented, and it finds expression in Christian community. Christian spirituality is about life in the Spirit; and there is only one Spirit: the Spirit of Christ; the Spirit who is also the author of the Scriptures; and the Spirit who enables us to live in the fellowship of the Spirit, which is the body of Christ.
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Again, much more could be said; but these are the three most critical issues when it comes to discerning an authentic Christian spirituality.
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