The Throne Of God

The Throne of Yahveh Who Sits On it? by D. J. Love, Minister, TSN, SBC Written 5/24/2002 Refined 1/28/2005

Whenever, I am asked, "Why don't you believe that Jesus is God," one of my standard comebacks is simply to ask them the "Common Sense" question, "Who sits on the throne of YHVH?" This usually lets me know right away if they have any real Bible knowledge or not. Those who are better versed in Bible knowledge will automatically realize that they are in trouble; For most will know that their Jesus (IHSous) is supposed to sit on the "Right Hand of God," therefore meaning that he does not sit on the throne of God (YHVH). Those that are less versed and do not realize this are simply amazed, and are at a loss for many words. Below are most, but not all of the passages that clearly state Messiah Y'Shua's subordinate status to YHVH, as YHVH's "Right Hand" man, and therefore not God. Moreover, Messiah's Kingdon is "The Earth" while YHVH's Kingdom is everything contained in "The Heavens" (Universe) including Earth.

Hebrews 8:1-2 Now in the things which we are saying, the main point is this. We have such a high priest (Y'Shua), who sat down on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens,

Romans 8:34 34 Who is he who condemns (by YHVH's authority)? It is Messiah who died, yes rather, who was raised from (among) the dead (by YHVH),

who is at the right hand of God (in Authority), who also makes intercession for us.

Ephesians 1:15-21 15 For this cause I also, having heard of the faith in YHVH's Magistrate, Messiah Y'Shua, which is among you, and the love which you have toward all the saints, 16 don't cease to give thanks for you, making mention of you in my prayers, 17 that the Creator of our Divine Magistrate, Messiah Y'Shua, the Father of glory, may give to you a spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of Him; 18 having the eyes of your hearts enlightened, that you may know what is the hope of his (Y'Shua's) calling, and what are the riches of the glory of his (Y'Shua's) inheritance in the saints,

Note: YHVH doesn't need an inheritance. How can the Creator of everything inherit anything, as everything is already His? And from whom will He inherit it? After all, inheritances are passed down, not up! Besides YHVH doesn't seek inheritance, He seeks Love and those that can give it. See "How To Love YHVH."

19 and what is the exceeding greatness of His power toward us who believe (not just towards Y'Shua), according to that working of the strength of His (YHVH's) might

Note: Y'Shua is not so unique that he will be the only one that will receive authority, honor, power, and glory. Y'Shua will be and is simply the second in command with respect to YHVH, and we (the chosen few) will be under Y'Shua's authority (given to him by YHVH), and also, under YHVH's authority. Additionally there will be those directly under our authority, as we will

become judges, priests, etc. (Revelation 1:6, Revelation 5:9-10, Revelation 20:6, 1 Corinthians 6:2-3). This concept is simple; it is called the "Chain of Command," but with a Righteous twist. That twist being that ALL those that make up the chain will be of ONE ACCORD, with ONE SPIRIT, and therefore "LIKE MINDED" (see Holy Spirit).

20 which He (YHVH) worked in Messiah, when He (YHVH) raised him from among the dead, and made him to sit at His (YHVH's) right hand in the heavenly places, 21 far above all (Earthly) rule, and (Earthly) authority, and (Earthly) power, and (Earthly) dominion, and every (Earthly) name that is named, not only in this (Earthly) world, but also in that (Earthly World) which is to come (The New Jerusalem will be the Holy City; he will also, have authority over angels, as it pertains to his Earthly authority in "The Kingdom of YHVH on Earth.").

Colossians 3:1 If then you were raised together with Messiah, seek the things that are above, where Messiah is, seated on the right hand of G-d.

Hebrews 10:12 12 but he (Messiah Y'Shua), when he had offered one sacrifice for sins (his Ministry) forever, sat down on the right hand of G-d;

Hebrews 12:2 2 looking to Messiah Y'Shua, the author and perfecter of faith, who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of G-d.

Note: SInce Y'Shua is the "Perfecter of Faith," we MUST follow his example of selfless sacrifice (his Ministry). If we do not, then our faith is false.

1 Peter 3:22 22 (Y'Shua) Who is at the right hand of God (in authority), having gone into heaven (Spiritually Ascended), angels and authorities and powers being made subject to him (by YHVH, not by himself, as it pertains to Y'Shua's Earthly authority in "The Coming Kingdom of YHVH on Earth.").

What does The Tanakh (First Testament)

Say?

Isaiah 9:6-7 6 For unto us a child (Messiah Y'Shua) is born, unto us a son is given; and the government (of The Earth) shall be on his shoulder (his responsibility): and his name (or title) shall be called Wonderful (Strong's #6382, "PELE," A Miracle or A Wonder or A Marvel), Counselor (Strong's #3289, "YA'ATS," One who guides or advises), Mighty "EL" (Strong's #410, "EL," Strength, Mighty, and may be used with ANY deity or idol, but normally as a compound word, as in "El Shaddai"), Everlasting Father (Strong's #1, "AB" figuratively used in a future or remote application as a Chief or Principal or as a father, but not THE FATHER) ,

Prince of Peace. 7 Of the increase of his government (on The Earth) and of peace there shall be no end, on the throne of David, and on his kingdom (The Earth), to establish it, and to uphold it with justice and with righteousness from henceforth even forever. The zeal of YHVH of Hosts will perform this.

Note One: In analyzing Isaiah 9:6-7, it is plain to see that Messiah Y'Shua (Christos) is NOT G-d. And that only a prejudiced translator would even try to force the word "El" to mean "The G-d of Creation." Since "El" already means mighty, why would the word mighty need to precede "El?" The proper translation should have been the "Mighty One" (of G-d would be understood).

Note Two: It seems fishy that "PELE," which means a miracle or marvel or wonder, should suddenly be translated as Wonderful. The correct translation should have been "A Miracle" (of G-d would be understood).

Note Three: In verse seven we can clearly see that Messiah Y'Shua WILL SIT on the (Earthly) Throne of King David, and NOT on "The (Heavenly) Throne of YHVH." Messiah is never described as sitting on YHVH's Heavenly Throne, but he is described (in prophecy) as sitting on either the Throne of David or on the throne of his Glory (Praise, Honor, Reward, Inheritance). Presently Messiah has not yet received his Earthly reward. Satan (Human Nature) presently sits on his throne as prince of this Earth, but Messiah Y'Shua will remove the dragon (Satan) and his beast religions, followers and governments, and Messiah will take over as King of Kings on the Earthly throne of King David.

Psalms 89:20-29 (Messiah is the seed and heir of King David) 20 I have found (King) David, my servant. I have anointed him with my Holy oil, 21 With whom my hand shall be established. My arm will also strengthen him. 22 No enemy will tax him. No wicked man will oppress him. 23 I will beat down his adversaries before him, And strike those who hate him. 24 But my faithfulness and my lovingkindness will be with him. In my name, his horn will be exalted. 25 I will set his hand also on the sea, And his right hand on the rivers.

26 He (King David/Messiah) will call to me, 'You are my Father, My Gd, and the rock of my salvation!' 27 I will also appoint him my firstborn (Son), The highest of the kings of "The Earth."

Note: Whoa! "Appoint him" as my firstborn son? Yes, you saw it correctly. Messiah is an "Appointed Firstborn Son" meaning Messiah has the position of "INHERITANCE." MESSIAH wasn't a True Firstborn of YHVH! His position is APPOINTED! This explains why Moses, The prophets, etc. . . were not Firstborn. 28 I will keep my lovingkindness for him forevermore. My covenant will stand firm with him. 29 I will also make his (King David's) seed (Messiah Y'Shua) endure forever, And his throne (The Earth) as the days of heaven.

Ezekiel 34:17-26 (The True Relationship between YHVH and the Messiah)

17 As for you, O my flock (Spiritual Israel), thus says the Lord YHVH: Behold, I judge between sheep and sheep, the rams and the male goats. 18 Seems it a small thing to you to have fed on the good pasture, but you must tread down with your feet the residue of your pasture? and to have drunk of the clear waters, but you must foul the residue with your feet? 19 As for my sheep, they eat that which you have trodden with your feet, and they drink that which you have fouled with your feet. 20 Therefore thus says the Lord YHVH to them: Behold, I, even I, will judge between the fat sheep and the lean sheep. 21 Because you thrust with side and with shoulder, and push all the diseased with your horns, until you have scattered them abroad; 22 therefore will I (YHVH) save my flock, and they shall no more be a prey; and I will judge between sheep and sheep.

23 I (YHVH) will set up one shepherd (Messiah) over them, and he shall feed them, even my servant (King) David; he shall feed them, and he shall be their shepherd (through his physical seed/Messiah). 24 I, YHVH, will be their G-d, and my servant (King) David prince among them; I, YHVH, have spoken it. 25 I will make with them a covenant of peace, and will cause evil animals to cease out of the land; and they shall dwell securely in the wilderness, and sleep in the woods. 26 I will make them and the places round about my hill a blessing; and I will cause the shower to come down in its season; there shall be showers of blessing.

Was Messiah Worshipped as GOD or as "King of Kings?" Was the Messiah worshipped as G-d or a god? Many Christians (Christopagans) believe so, but is their belief justified, explicitly stated or assumed? I hope the following statements and verses can help you clear up the chaos and confusion that surrounds this unjustified belief whenever you encounter it and with whomever you encounter it.

Matthew 2:11 And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Miryam (Mary) his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense, and myrrh.

So! Did the so called wise men worship Y'Shua as God? Absolutely Not! They recognized that the baby Y'Shua was the promised Messiah and (genetic) seed of David; therefore, they worshipped Y'Shua as a human "King of Kings;" Not as YHVH, but as "The KING of Israel," and "Heir to the throne of David."

Jeremiah 23:5 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD YHVH, that I will raise unto (King) David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the Earth.

Ezekiel 34:22-24 22Therefore will I (YHVH) save my flock, and they shall no more be a prey; and I will judge between cattle and cattle. 23And I (YHVH) will set up one shepherd over them, and he shall feed them, even my servant (King) David; he shall feed them, and he shall be their shepherd. 24And I the LORD YHVH will be their Eternal Father, and my servant (King) David a prince among them; I the LORD YHVH have spoken it.

Ezekiel 37:24-25 24And (King) David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them. 25And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant (King) David shall be their prince for ever.

Hosea 3:5 Afterward shall the children of Israel return, and seek the LORD YHVH their Eternal Father, and David their king; and shall fear the LORD YHVH and his goodness in the latter days.

On the other hand, maybe Peter was a god too? (Absolutely Not!)

Acts 10:25-26 25And as Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him, and fell down at his feet, and worshipped him. 26But Peter took him up, saying, Stand up; I myself am, ALSO, a man.

Do not be deceived, The Messiah is a created human King, and was never worshipped as YHVH or a trinity or bi-entity prior to the invention of Christianity by The Roman Universal Church.

Messiah does not yet sit on the Throne of his Glory or The Earthly Throne of King David

Matthew 25:31-33 31 "But when the Son of Man (Messiah Y'Shua) comes into his glory, and all the holy messengers with him, then (not before) will he sit on the throne of his glory. 32 Before him all the nations will be gathered, and he will separate them one from another, as the shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 He will set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

Matthew 19:28 28 Messiah Y'Shua said to them, "Most assuredly I tell you, that you

who will have followed me (my teachings and my example), in the regeneration (resurrection) when the Son of Man (Messiah) will sit on the throne of his glory (Strong's #1391, DOXA, Honor, Praise or even his Reward) , you also will sit on twelve thrones (of your own glory), judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

Luke 1:31-33 31 Behold, you will conceive in your womb, and bring forth a son, and will call his name Y'Shua. 32 He will be great (Mighty, Marvelous, a Counselor, a Chief), and will be called the (eldest or first born) Son of the Most High. The Lord G-d (YHVH) will give to him the (Earthly) throne of his father, (King) David, 33 and he will (eventually) reign over the (Earthly) house of Jacob (Israel) forever. There will be no end of his (Earthly) kingdom."

Note: YHVH's "Plan of Salvation" will remove Satan (Evil Human Nature) from the Earth, and establish Messiah Y'Shua (and Righteousness) as the NEW RULER of the EARTH (The Promised Land). See "Will the Earth be Destroyed?"

See "Rapture, The Untold Story."

And The Meek Will Inherit The Earth