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* parts: smokaaar * joins: smokaaar <smokaaar> jep * quits: redse ("http://webchat.xs4all.nl"#) * joins: redse * joins: shaerla lo! i kicked my self out :p testing can anyone else see? <smokaaar> hail our leader yes. omg omg.. its zha boss it's an imposter! <screamher> hi shae! shae isn't coming! <shaerla> just popping in. just got home, totally knackerd <stingy^> quick behave <shaerla> gonna eat and take a shower <shaerla> so <shaerla> perma afk :p <screamher> take pics pfft * shaerla is now known as shae_afk omg.. he know how to rename him self hmm.... i cant remember how to do that :p * joins: irfate oo lol <screamher> hi fate ^^ .. /nick here ^^ :p lol hi urfate * brutha is now known as shaerla hehe tarka :p <screamher> lol rofl lol <shaerla> well well ;o evening * shaerla is now known as brutha <malchior> good evening fate ^^ hey fate hey :p just arrived home.. need coffee! lalwz ^^ hmmm i usuall need se.... uhmm food i mean yay, just my wow crashed... only 21 people signed up.. :s bru, check which wankers are in wow atm, and make a list *grin* <screamher> ll dia <screamher> lol* already did fate * joins: chibig wiping my ass with that very list as we speak can be both here and in wow fate ;d finally making coffee aswell fast

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<demmtee> only 14 online in wow <screamher> hia chi *ta-daaaa* back ! ;) <screamher> wb! so, let's chat aighty who killed the cat ? first of, good of you all to make it * joins: gennah <demmtee> damn new mirc with flood protection the ones not here will be removed from sanity *grin evilly* * joins: viki_20 * joins: boobaniel i'll thank tyri alot who helped me :d <screamher> lol hellooo =) ofc... that's a joke hey gennah :) <screamher> phew <demmtee> gennah :d <screamher> hi gen <malchior> hey newcomers * viki_20 is now known as aerish hola hello <screamher> hey :) omg, aerish pretend girl on irc! shae _afk the real shae? <screamher> lol xd ew <demmtee> i was about to start flirting irfate: yeah, that's shae <screamher> yes fate aye. i have the biggest lauphs pretending a girl:) i checked fate he has a mole on his left buttcheek demmtee: so go /nick well_hung_21 and start flirting xd clear /ra! back wow it works in here too :) <screamher> meanie meh! played too much brutha i have a mole in my left butcheek.. <demmtee> * [daquirm] #sanity #spain_hotties #uber_gay #playland <demmtee> hummm <shae_afk> meatie. top dominion in realm#34 is out. can you cs him? <demmtee> #13siii <demmtee> #12,16boohhooo demmtee: on irc since '93 and that's the best you can make ? already in council let's grab tod how2change color :( ? * shae_afk is now known as shaerla ok hush all for those who have mirc, ctrl+k brings a nice colour text menu #4zomg! * shaerla wonders which numbnut forgot to add moderators or register the

channel [20:06] #10thanks ;) [20:06] * diamondwing thinks the numb.. ehh hmmm was fate ? :d [20:06] [demmtee:#sanity version] [20:06] * forwardd is now known as forward^ [20:06] first i like to appologise again for the lack of raids in december, i believe everyone has read the entire story i had written and had the opportunity to ask questions. if they hadn't read the big crit of a text i wrote, you can ask them now if you like. [20:06] hehe [20:07] don't nescessarily have to be questions, you can state comments as well [20:07] i would like to state that i helped spread confusion by allowing priests to spec shadow.. [20:07] can i say.. pve owns and pvp isnt so good :/ [20:07] agree [20:08] realise this wasn't a decision made so that people can pvp. [20:08] <demmtee> well.. ive used the time to play pvp with some sane people and get to know more about how they play [20:08] pvp is just a means to kill time [20:08] <screamher> im not so big on pvp [20:08] think we know, still bit frustrating for a raid maniac like me, but i manage hehe [20:09] <malchior> any plans of creating an alliance within these low-attendance times (like madhouse + bol) so that the 'raid maniacs' can get their daily share? :) [20:09] * joins: mavvy [20:09] <mavvy> heya [20:09] <screamher> hi [20:09] i'd rather raid bwl myself as well, but seeing as attendance was dwindling and with tbc around the corner, we really didn't want to start recruiting more people that would become obsolete next year. [20:09] bwl, aq40 and nax btw [20:10] <shaerla> malch > thought about it yup. then decided not to as guilds have different rules and its hell to pre organize stuff [20:10] i personally don't hold much faith in alliances, they always turn sour after a while [20:10] that i do agree with you on fate, thats why we are patient about it now [20:10] <demmtee> december is bizzy month anyways [20:10] <screamher> yup [20:11] besides, one might not like pvp (am neutral towards it myself) but i do enjoy the more social opportunities it supplies. [20:11] pvp is actually a very good way to increase player skill [20:11] and bonding [20:11] any more questions or comments about the december break? [20:11] <shaerla> fyi: i am still working atm as its crazy time at the company. so if i dont react quick it means i am prolly preparing stuff for tomorrow. and yup i wish the damn year is over :/ [20:12] #01miss raiding :) [20:12] pvp is good if you dont got my temper :/ i got a exstremely bad temper from ut hehe [20:12] brutha: maybe depends on class, don't know if any pvp will improve tanking skills at all [20:12] nuff bout pvp ;) [20:12] is it free to arrange 20man raids during nights? [20:12] lets stay on topic [20:12] yes chi

[20:12] yes chib [20:12] k [20:12] um.. when tbc comes, will we generally not do 40 man raids anymore, instead spend time doing some of the new instances, levelling and such? ^^ [20:12] we can also make mc ye ? [20:13] yes, dia, we can arrange mc aswell [20:13] we will most likely be very busy levelling to 70 tark [20:13] perhaps only raid a 40 man instance once or twice tops a week for form [20:13] and we will want to join the new 5mans [20:13] do we sett a cap on how long members got befor we have to be 70 ? [20:13] despite success [20:13] <shaerla> on the 40 man raids [20:13] tarka: don't think that we'll do any actual instance once tbc is out. you've seen loot from lvl61-70 ? prepare to replace tier2 at lvl 63-64 [20:14] <shaerla> end bosses will be lvel 73 [20:14] <mavvy> that seems sillty atm dia as no one knows how long it will take [20:14] <shaerla> so dont go there [20:14] * joins: ironaya [20:14] wohoo =) i r pro! [20:14] good work iron :) [20:14] exactly ^^ [20:14] <screamher> my first priority is gettin to 70 [20:14] ep [20:14] yep* [20:14] 1 question about tbc: as diamondwing said: will be there "max lv70 time or you are out" ? [20:14] lvling can be done in 5-10 days.. hardcore [20:14] <shaerla> so even going to zg means facing bat boss at level 73 and being smashed to pulp [20:14] there is no way we can estimate leveling time as of yet, but i assume everyone will give it his best shot to get three asap [20:14] will take me ageees [20:15] dia: 10 days playing how many hours a day ? [20:15] so what i mean.. will be put a limit on it.. like for exampel 2 mnds.. [20:15] we probably wont put in a time limit for people to reach lvl 70, though ofc. if someone is blatantly slacking, holding the entire guild back, a decision has to be reached concerning that members membership [20:15] <mavvy> i can only do evenings and weekends so wont be 70 in 10 days for sure [20:15] i said hardcore daq hehe [20:15] 10 days :| ? [20:15] #01in beta leveling has been boosted , it not going to be like that when it goes live [20:15] the advantage is in tbc there is a nice epic 10 man instance for the hardcore people who get to 70 very fast :) [20:15] #01yes i read :) [20:15] no way,, persons will be doing instances and training professions aswell ;) [20:16] think fate answerd my question :) [20:16] doing things together is above all the prime requisite of the guild [20:16] brutha and i are gonna have the hardest time now that tbc comes, we have to lvl up our chars to lvl 70 then start to lvl up our shamans which will be used in furhter raids, so what i want to come to is: how often will we raid,

like the usual we did before tbc when ppl get to lvl 70 [20:16] one has to wonder what one is doing in a guild if one does not participate [20:16] <shaerla> and the fact that i go to the carribean for 9 days :p [20:16] <demmtee> bastard [20:16] ooh! [20:16] slacker sha [20:17] i assume people with alts are expected to level up their current main first before starting on alt lvling [20:17] chib, if you lvl your shaman at a stead pace, it's ok [20:17] people, there are 14 new instances in tbc, with levels from 60 to 70, 5-10 and 25 man [20:17] you can level 60-70 doing instances, if needed ! [20:17] im going to do my best [20:17] well imo.. when we got enough lvl 70 to do 25,10 man raids we should start to raid 3-4 nights again [20:17] <demmtee> agree [20:17] indeed dia [20:17] so i think that we can still do raiding while leveling [20:18] which brings us to the next point [20:18] in the new year, attendance will be more strict. well communicated exceptions will be allowed, but the time of joining raids on ones whim will be over [20:18] if we cannot rely/depend on people, they will be replaced. [20:19] this goes for the whole raid, so from 20:00 till 23:30 [20:19] nod [20:19] * joins: christinah [20:19] can sound hars .. but its a waste of time to spend time in bwl/mc/ or any "old" instance after tbc is out.. as even the greens is better than tier 2/3 ... only practise for teamplay and ofc break some limits.. 10 man mc :p [20:19] * joins: nadohs [20:19] <screamher> np for me [20:19] that's what you signed up for, promissed to do and what we will be expecting ;) [20:19] who uses *shodan* nick and all others begins with sho ? [20:20] true diamond, everyone thinks they will want to raid the 40 man instances, but when tbc comes there will be too many new and cooler things [20:20] aie [20:20] well yes .. [20:20] aye that's true, wouldn't mind one night a week naxx expeditions though [20:20] i don't think we'll never go back (in a serious raid) to old instances (that is, naxx or less) [20:20] think to have some fun.. we can do mc with lvl 65 alts or so .. but after we hit 70 its a totaal waste [20:20] (but 3man ony ftw) [20:20] mind you, the sanity management, will always organise raids with what's at our lvl of capability in mind, passing trivial content asap. [20:21] hehe [20:21] <shaerla> ahem [20:21] <shaerla> can i repeat my earlier statement [20:21] no [20:21] but go ahead [20:21] lol [20:21] <shaerla> boss code in instances means they are 3 levels higher then max level [20:21] about the caribean? [20:21] <shaerla> so mc bosses or any other are lvl 73

[20:21] <shaerla> dont even think about going there [20:22] i don't see the relevance [20:22] have fun doing them at lvl 65 :) [20:22] meens they will be piece'o cake now ? [20:22] <screamher> does that mean the gear gets better? [20:22] but loot will still be the same, no reason to go back to mc, bwl or so with tbc [20:22] no it means they will be hard, but drop the same crap loot [20:22] shaerla, it will not work like this: bosses will have same amount of hitpoints and abilities, but amount of crushing blows will stay same [20:22] no scream [20:22] <screamher> sucky then [20:22] nod dread [20:22] <shaerla> and you think you can hit them often at lvels 65? [20:22] there will be 25 mans raiding after all ... do you remember how it happend with 10=15 mans dungeons ? [20:23] <shaerla> nope, nada, njente, zich, zip [20:23] <demmtee> so if we do 10 man instance on a raidnight will there be an ateam and a b-team? [20:23] they become less players but still aint less hard [20:23] <shaerla> forget old content [20:23] we can do most of mc with 25 now.. think we can do mc with 10 as lvl 70 :d [20:23] nowai :p [20:23] thats another discussion sha (and your wrong btw ;)) [20:23] * diamondwing forgotten old aids [20:23] will mc bwl and naxx will become easier when 25 man ? [20:23] <shaerla> fate [20:23] ups.. raids ::p [20:23] <shaerla> its true and reported from beta [20:23] <shaerla> but hey carry on :) [20:23] another topic alltogether =p [20:23] well i just want to finish aq and naxx so i say i have done them ;) [20:24] <screamher> same aer [20:24] lol [20:24] so, expect the following [20:24] januari: leveling time (occasional raids with people of about equal lvl) [20:24] if possible [20:24] depends on how many mnds we need to clear them aerish, as imo we should foucs on new content in tbc :) [20:24] can we talk about guild member count ? we are good for 40man, but will have 15 people doing nothing when tbc hits, with 25man max instances [20:25] what about those 15 ? [20:25] <demmtee> can someone answer me? [20:25] <shaerla> all in good time daq [20:25] shaerla: ok [20:25] <shaerla> and demm [20:25] februari: leveling time, end februari we might be able to do the first tbc raid instance or at least venture and explore [20:25] i'm totaly intrested in pvp now ... so i dont mind not raiding now [20:25] march: most of the guild expected to be 70 (some slowpokes excluded), 25 man raids start [20:25] demm, depending on the number over members we have by that time we can always do 25 and 10 man raids [20:25] we are still a pve guild

[20:25] * joins: eep_sanity [20:26] i wouldn't count getting to 70 until 1month after tbc goes out, so expect a good number of 70s by mid-february [20:26] yes we are .. [20:26] <demmtee> i just dont want to feel stuck on a b-team u know [20:26] concerning pvp. sanity is 100% pve guild, pvp will never have priority, though everyone has carte blanche in december [20:26] yes ... espesialy for me .. lvling to 70 will take ages [20:26] i dont play much instead of raids [20:27] if, next year, one levels slow due to massive pvp sessions, he or she will be replaced by a more pve foccused person. as in, removed from guild. [20:27] <screamher> i havent had much time to play daytime, can make raids easy, but im on alot more come january so lvling shud be np [20:27] i do work, can only play what actually i raid so expect me to do that: 3-4h night and not everyday [20:28] <shaerla> guys no conclusions pls [20:28] we won't get a b team demm, since we will judge members by abilities too. 25 and 10 man raids demand much more of a player then the 40 mans we have done so far. [20:28] totally undestandeable scream and daq, we do not expect a "nolife" speed of levelling ;) [20:28] <shaerla> we all level as in not raid much. so all these raids that are not planned you are levelling [20:28] * diamondwing got no life [20:28] anyone here who will not be upgrading to tbc btw? [20:28] hehe [20:28] * forward^ noticed that and winks and dia [20:29] :d [20:29] at* :p [20:29] guess that's a "no" fate [20:29] lol [20:29] which reminds me, post in the appropriate thread concerning the tbc upgrade you slackers! [20:29] remember that tbc brings 25 mans max and 1 more class, shammie, so few of each class will be on raid, and then skills of the player will become *really* important [20:29] <demmtee> lol.. pve minded cayman rather to pvp that talk here? [20:29] <demmtee> do [20:30] any more comments questions regarding this topic? [20:30] i was about to say that but thought this is too early, still ... i am getting in to university . and after new year i have to study alot . >maby< just maby i wont upgrade to tbc or even will leave game [20:30] hmm, as far as i know thread was to post if u not upgrade, so everyone did well and didnt post anything :p [20:30] topic being "tbc and next year [20:30] yes plz fate, concerning main changes [20:30] nod, logic pwnd shae [20:30] <shaerla> yup [20:30] so far 2 people have opted the idea of changing their mains [20:30] <shaerla> or people just cant read :p [20:30] bardon and me [20:31] if u would like i'm up for sharman maybe [20:31] if anyone is planning to change mains, make sure you communicate [20:31] provided you take this change seriously, you have slack to lvl [20:31] and yes bru [20:31] im gonna lvl a shaman alt.. but diamond is my main :) [20:31] i kind of do not expect people to state they will change to shaman this late, if they do, tough titties! muahaha

[20:31] fate ... i think i wont upgrade to tbc when you asked .. discribet upper . [20:31] *everyone* is going to make a shaman alt ;) [20:32] <malchior> can't resist hawt be shamans daq! [20:32] <shaerla> not me [20:32] discribet? [20:32] <shaerla> cant be arsed [20:32] <malchior> (if they can eb shamans ofc) [20:32] me neither malch :( [20:32] <shaerla> described [20:32] my english ... -.[20:32] noted nadohs, watch next topic [20:32] nadohs/shodan [20:33] any more? [20:33] can i have 3 mains ? [20:33] no [20:33] <screamher> lol [20:33] darn ! :p [20:33] haha :p [20:33] rofl [20:33] if you have 3 acounts and can raid with them at the same time [20:33] next topic: yes, several people will be removed from sanity [20:34] * diamondwing is a mutlitasker legendary :d [20:34] due to low attendance and poor communication, several people have already been labeled for removal [20:34] i wanted to mention an alternative option, but i also have to look at shae [20:34] eek :s [20:34] will those get a warning now ? [20:34] communication being the key word there btw [20:34] concerning in this case, shodan who will not be upgrading to tbc [20:34] i dont know still ... [20:34] after i get (god help me) then yes ofc [20:35] <shaerla> dia> depends. some of them got enough warning [20:35] so, do we get the winners list now or log someday to see the guild is half the size it was ? [20:35] it might be an option for people who won't/can't (or don't know yet) to upgrade to tbc to move to the insanity guild. [20:35] hmm.. [20:35] what say you shae? [20:35] nothing like that daq [20:35] <screamher> good idea fate [20:35] yes [20:35] indeed [20:35] <shaerla> people that dont upgrade or opt to become more casual can of course go to insanity [20:36] <screamher> which im running, for some reason [20:36] <shaerla> of course then they will be screamy's slave but thats another topic [20:36] * joins: cayman [20:36] hey cayman :) [20:36] #01insanity can/ could become b team as some have said? [20:36] <screamher> muahaha [20:36] hi all guys [20:36] o scream is a slave master a druid that ..< [20:36] k, could that also be an option for people who communicated lack of attendance poorly? (unless they really pissed off officers by it ofc). [20:36] then when insanity is mentioned.. iv asked about this

befor.. will we ever be allowed to guild more chars than 2 in sanity ? .. (shaerla mentioned that we mby get allowed this when tbc comes). [20:36] <shaerla> tbh no fate. [20:37] <shaerla> dia > in consideration [20:37] oki thanks:) [20:37] <smokaaar> muhu [20:37] <smokaaar> do we get to know whos ganna get removed ? [20:37] <screamher> if that was to be a yes id say only alts that were 60/70 [20:37] kaz, b team, optional, but on responsibility of people in insanity alone [20:38] just to be sure: there will be no mass removal of people when tbc comes, the rules will be applied as they have always been. we have been slacking of those rules in december. [20:38] sanity officers will not start organising/managing 2 guilds ;) [20:38] #01to have a b team i think is a good option and an overflow for a day when we are short [20:38] you could just define other officers for insanity... [20:39] <shaerla> and then it will be a seperate guild in time :) [20:39] nope daq, we won't turn into a conglomerate =p [20:39] <demmtee> lets keep it to sanity huh? :) [20:39] aie shaerla [20:39] * joins: norigo [20:39] insanity is nice as alt guild.. with mby some raids now and then.. but wouldnt advice to turn that in to a "raiding" guild [20:40] welcome nor [20:40] insanity is quiet guild of alts and friends of guild, it live with life of sanity and it will stay this way [20:40] insanity will be like a "sister"guild and in real life, you don't tell your sister whom to fuck or not either... (i did, but thats beside the point) [20:40] <smokaaar> are there any candidates for /removal of guild? [20:40] <demmtee> lol fate [20:40] yes smoke [20:40] <norigo> hey guys, sorry im late my practise was longer than i expected ... [20:40] <screamher> hey nori [20:40] evening norigo :) [20:40] <smokaaar> can we know who those will be? [20:40] as asked befor.. will we get to know who will be removed ? or is that a secret matter ? [20:40] though atm, a short list, but can/will be extended in januari/februari [20:41] we will not announce who, cos that would be a piss poor way for people to find out, we will talk to people personally first [20:41] <shaerla> on the dreaded "mass" removal. people on our evaluation list will be spoken to and either be remvoed on sight (due to having mass warnings) or they should recognize the message and betetr show that they are sane people. [20:41] <smokaaar> mm am i on the list? [20:41] *sigh* [20:42] <shaerla> should you be? [20:42] like there gona say :p [20:42] <smokaaar> i would like to know if i am [20:42] *grin* [20:42] it's easy... [20:42] #01most people on the list arnt here :) [20:42] i am.. due to low attendance and to few posts on forum :p [20:42] main prerequisite for sanity is communication [20:42] <demmtee> people are gonna get paranoia now! [20:42] #01and the ones that are , im sure they know

[20:42] eek! [20:42] <screamher> its not hard to guess tbh [20:42] jep..eek [20:42] question: are you doing removals by the amount of people of a certain class, or by the total amount of people in the guild ? [20:43] <shaerla> people atttitude [20:43] we are removing by rules [20:43] nod [20:43] attitiude [20:43] <shaerla> class is something else [20:43] by amount or class, would suggest that replacements would be hard... which they aren't ;) [20:43] team > individual [20:43] #01come on guys it dont take much to look whos not about and dont show [20:43] so you'll just be removing people on their behaviour, not on the amount of people of that class?.. even if that means you'll have to recruit new people ? [20:44] aye forward [20:44] that's good to hear :) [20:44] <smokaaar> bye forward [20:44] posted on forum . [20:44] <smokaaar> :p [20:44] <demmtee> bahavior? im fuckd! [20:44] lol [20:44] <screamher> so many ppl will be without guilds in tbc im sure [20:44] the atmosphere within sanity and the expectancy of members that they can rely on eachother >>>>>>>> all [20:44] omg tony ;( [20:44] <smokaaar> ha ha :p [20:45] yes screamher i think so to, but then again i think many guilds will split in to and many new guilds will be made [20:45] will anyone on irc be removed ? [20:45] * diamondwing wounders if they take the bait :p [20:45] in the end, we expect to achieve a much closer knit and more fun guild, who are also capable of competing with uber guilds, but without the childish behaviour or questionmarks [20:46] as stated in our charter =p [20:46] <smokaaar> ?????!!?!,?! [20:46] <smokaaar> :) [20:46] <shaerla> before someone thinks: critism on officers is not a ground for guild removal :) we are human after all and make mistakes. however it has to be constructive. so mindless whining and bitching is ground for removal ;) [20:46] argh, im screwed then =p [20:46] lol, i guess im bye bye then :p [20:46] <smokaaar> damn [20:46] nod, luckily, officers are adults and aren't hurt easily by good critisism =p [20:46] <screamher> well im a good girl [20:47] remember to always start with something positive though [20:47] heck... sometimes we even listen >.< [20:47] like: "i love your hairdo bru, but i think you are an arse" [20:47] <screamher> lol [20:47] rofl [20:47] bru, u are bald, noone love your hairdo... [20:47] <shaerla> beware who you critize on though. some of us will keep you occupied for the next 2 hours if we think the topic is interesting ;) [20:47] or "i admire your sphincter, but i'm sure your hands don't belong

there you pervert!" [20:48] <screamher> rofl [20:48] <smokaaar> how many days of raidvacations do we get? [20:48] <smokaaar> :p [20:48] <shaerla> attendance % you mean? [20:48] lets see... exams, hollidays, summervacations [20:49] we should have a 95 % attendance ye ? [20:49] <smokaaar> something like that shaerla [20:49] .. dont forget massive hangovers (not that i get them) ;) [20:49] mind you, we only call "breaks" when there's absolutely no other option without degrading sanity [20:49] <shaerla> not thought about it but something like 7% over a month period [20:49] 95%?! [20:49] <shaerla> 75% [20:49] phew xd [20:50] hehe thats more attendance than mortalis :p [20:50] let me state again "communication", it that important. [20:50] beside, we are not alwasy arses, and if someone communicate us properly he go on holidays, and make date when he will come back he will be allowed to do this [20:50] it's [20:50] for those math-impaired: 7% over a month, at 4 raid days a week, 4 weeks, means failing only 1 day in a month [20:50] >.> [20:50] ergo. don't ask for numbers [20:50] <demmtee> thanx daquirm :p [20:50] eek :p [20:51] <smokaaar> how many raid days will we have in the week? [20:51] <shaerla> 3 to start of rising to 4 [20:51] bottomline attendance wise is... if you take sanity and your fellow guildmembers seriously (to sane extends) you have nothing to fear. [20:51] #01my oly big issue in all this is we have enough people to raid on a raid night [20:51] nothing much anyways [20:51] #01*only [20:51] <demmtee> only the wrath of an officer [20:51] * joins: xs4-427 [20:52] cranky officers excluded [20:52] * quits: nadohs ("http://webchat.xs4all.nl "#) [20:52] <shaerla> aka eep [20:52] * shaerla hides [20:52] <eep_sanity> :p [20:52] :< [20:52] <screamher> lol [20:52] omg he lives [20:52] anymore questions about "attendance and poofing people"? [20:52] or comments [20:53] <smokaaar> what if your modem breaks [20:53] <smokaaar> and cant post something on the forum [20:53] viable reason smoke [20:53] <smokaaar> =) [20:53] <shaerla> dpends how you break it [20:53] go to the librabry and inform us [20:53] <smokaaar> fuck that [20:53] <shaerla> throwing it from the 14th floor is awesome [20:53] <smokaaar> library my ass [20:53] though... a broken modem 3 times a week will cause suspicion... [20:53] <demmtee> use ur cell phone

[20:53] haha [20:53] hmm.. you got a library in your ass ? :p [20:53] <screamher> uve done that shae? [20:54] <shaerla> almost scream, almost [20:54] are people gonna be notified about the thingys soon btw? cause i dont need to have that on my mind aswell as exams =/ i r just a wittle pwiest u know [20:54] <screamher> :d [20:54] what if you get teleported to the caribbean in an island only inhabited by gorgeous women.... hmmmm... forget it [20:54] <smokaaar> then we understand [20:54] laptops daq.... [20:54] you can adress an officer ingame iron, if you want to know before the newyear [20:54] <screamher> lol [20:54] <smokaaar> aslong as you invite us [20:54] aie... i think ppl who is on "terminated" list should get a msg about it soon [20:54] k thnx =) [20:55] <screamher> send a note in the mail [20:55] a message from the terminator ? [20:55] <screamher> pack ur desk and leave [20:55] mind you, the officer can only give you a probability score atm. the actual outcome is up to you [20:55] lol scream [20:55] <smokaaar> and when should we get that message? [20:55] rofl [20:55] dia: terminated ? will they be visited by arnie schwarzenanfetaminator ? [20:56] no.. but from arnie fatzeranfetaminator :p [20:56] next year, we will execute the springcleaning after the officers had a good council with eachother [20:56] <3 arnie!!! [20:56] =/ [20:56] k, i'm out of topics, shae, dread, eep, got any? [20:56] mu god guys stop worrying. the only people who should be afraid of being spoken to/removed are the one who simply do not take the effort to contact us when they go afk, or just structuraly not show up or do not finish raids... [20:56] or bru [20:56] <malchior> there are pcs with connection even in gayba..errm neta [20:57] <malchior> dammit sorry [20:57] #01hehe [20:57] <malchior> selfowned it seems :p [20:57] :d [20:57] <eep_sanity> hmm, when to start serious raids again - lev 65? [20:57] depends on the speed of the lvling people eep [20:57] #01i cant stop raiding till 65 f that [20:57] aye, depends on people ;) [20:57] lol kaz [20:57] think that only serious raiding should begin for tier4, and that is at lv70 [20:57] <--- slacker [20:57] serious raiding in tbc doesnt start till level 70.... [20:58] you can't even do dungeons on hero mode till 70 [20:58] which brings us to that lvl 73 boss thing [20:58] <eep_sanity> ok, so 70 it is. [20:58] <screamher> will be fun lvling, we can help each other and stuff too will

be fun ^^ [20:58] <smokaaar> are you ganna be removing an amount of players anyway becoz theres only 25 raid dungoens? [20:58] * demmtee is now known as dumbtee [20:58] <shaerla> nope smoker [20:58] <shaerla> we stop recruiting and the rest is natural selection ;) [20:58] well, hero mode seems to be *fucking*hero*mode* for what i read, can you confirm, killa ? [20:59] * quits: xs4-427 ("http://webchat.xs4all.nl (eof)"#) [20:59] the boss lvl will affect resistances, hit chance, glancingblows and crushingblows, so if the entire raid is lvl 63 for example, no actuall difference would be noticed, since the differential level is still 3 [21:00] blink 182 [21:00] <smokaaar> so we can raid at lv 63?. [21:00] <eep_sanity> anyone had any estimates from anywhere about how long it takes to reach 70 from 60? assuming a day is say, 6 hours? [21:00] sum 41 [21:00] green day? [21:00] <smokaaar> xp is doubled [21:00] offspring [21:00] so basically... bwl/aq40/nax are still occasional options tbh [21:00] <smokaaar> it will take a while [21:00] during the time we level, as long as we are all equal lvl [21:00] eep, about 6-10 hours a lvl [21:00] <eep_sanity> that's a great estimate smoker :p [21:01] <shaerla> how long did it take you to 60? [21:01] <smokaaar> i think 60 to 61 is 650kxp?! [21:01] 60 to 61 is 410k [21:01] we can't raid any 40 man instance, for example, if everyone was lvl 62 and one person was 70, since then the boss would be lvl 73 [21:01] blizz said that they expect that lvl 60->70 takes the same as 1>60 [21:01] <smokaaar> ba [21:01] 60-61 = about 500 k killa said [21:01] god thats gona be boring ;/ [21:01] if they don't miss that, you can say... 10days of /played, maybe [21:02] hopes... there's also new content ;) [21:02] i can tell you 65-66 825k [21:02] isnt all 40 man instances caped to 25 in tbc btw ? [21:02] <mavvy> leveling is gonna be slow but should provide opportunity for the guild to unite for 5mans etc [21:02] <mavvy> not as far as im aware dia [21:02] tbc instances are dia [21:02] afaik [21:02] and it took me a week and a half to get to 65 [21:02] <mavvy> old 40s stay 40s [21:02] diamondwing: no existing instances will be changed in any way, except bosses level [21:02] <eep_sanity> yeah but you're not normal killa. :o [21:02] so mc/bwl/aq40 still 40 man [21:03] #01but u cant use that to calculate leveling as i have said its got a boost in beta [21:03] well it takes the same time to get from 1-60 as it does toget from 60-70....i have leveled chars to 60 in 7 days played [21:03] but any 40 man raids (if any) we do during january/februari are pure for form and practise, to keep our team skills honed. [21:03] killa didnt play much to get to 65 eep. no hc playing [21:03] <eep_sanity> cool

[21:03] <smokaaar> beta is doubled xp per kill? [21:04] #01someting like that [21:04] irfate: think people will be playing 5man raids when possible, for the loot [21:04] it was to start but they normalised it [21:04] ah.. i have another topic [21:04] "class talent specs" [21:04] btw, shouldnt all who have been lvl 60 for a long while now, have tons of rested xp? [21:04] no [21:04] how do people feel about talent specs during leveling? [21:04] no, rested xp is lost @ 60 [21:04] <smokaaar> are we expected to be lv 70 in a month and a half ? [21:04] chi only 1 and a half bar i think ? [21:04] (while everyone types, fate gets coffee) [21:05] <smokaaar> il spec my self to level fastest anyway [21:05] #01i will change for mas aoe :) [21:05] i don't care at all about my talent spec.. i find each spec i've tried generally similar grinding wise.. *shrugs* [21:05] ow. no rested xp .. that sucks !!! [21:05] #01*mas [21:05] <eep_sanity> i'm assuming that people spec a grinding build for levelling and then think about how to serve the raid best after that. [21:05] #01*mass god cant type [21:05] #01yup correct [21:05] <shaerla> solo 5-man spec [21:05] <shaerla> and how is non of your business! [21:06] <shaerla> ask again when raiding :) [21:06] i think some priests will probably go shadow for leveling, but from what i have been reading most lvl 60 start zones will be zerged to death when tbc comes, so your best bet to lvl is play instances. [21:06] well.. if we are gonna be concentrating on lvling i'd like 2 remain shadowspecced for a while.. *looks shyly at brutha* [21:06] i've tanked level 65 dungeons fury spec'd no problem :p [21:06] i would like to go feral to lvl up [21:06] atm i got full protection on dia, on our lvl mobs thats no problem at all.. / more its very nice specc... but i might got flurry for lvling [21:06] <shaerla> for levelling you can pick the build that makes it easy to level [21:06] <shaerla> hence levelling [21:07] i think that makes it clear for everyone? [21:07] <shaerla> however some of these builds arent the best raiding options [21:07] i would say that most people will be 70 in 3 weeks, and that not playing hard [21:07] so warriors go fury if ya like, priest shadow etc [21:07] we'll re-examine talent specs at lvl 70 ;) [21:07] mind you, raiding during levelling can be very interresting indeed =p [21:07] i don't think i'll be able to get to 70 in 3 weeks, since i got school exams when tbc just comes out [21:08] for hero mode dungeons you need prot and jholy spec....seen tanks getting hit for 9k...and they where not even crits [21:08] <smokaaar> no way killa [21:08] killa: 0_o [21:08] <smokaaar> if you can only play from 8 to 23 [21:08] <smokaaar> 20 to 23 [21:08] <smokaaar> how long will it take [21:08] <shaerla> forward and others > dont worry neither will i as i am gone for 9 days and other stuff :)

[21:09] sorry guys. need to go now. post the conversation on forums for reading:) [21:09] same, forward. [21:09] trust me, everyone will have their hands full with tbc to worry about how fast everyone reaches lvl 70 for quite some time i imagine [21:09] i will aer :) [21:09] it's really not hard to level...there are 1000's of quests, and each quest is 10k-15k exp....eacg mob gives 500 odd exp per kill, doesnt take long [21:09] np aer, we're almost done [21:09] nn [21:09] <screamher> cya aer :) [21:09] * quits: aerish (""#) [21:09] first of all.. we need to reseive tbc.. iv preorderd it .. but god knows if i get it on release date or not [21:09] and each instance run gave me 150k, and hellfire rampart can be done in 20mins... [21:10] * quits: eep_sanity ("http://webchat.xs4all.nl (eof)"#) [21:10] killa: think that will stay until tbc ? [21:10] that is the normalised exp gain [21:10] if each instance run gives 150k and can be done in 20mins... 3 runs, 1h, 1 level ? [21:10] <smokaaar> hmm? [21:10] <smokaaar> issent that with double the xp count? [21:10] one thing who suck major is that flying mount costs 5000 g ... [21:10] i pre-ordered special edition :p [21:10] <smokaaar> i dont think we get 500 xp for a kill? [21:11] thats when the instance is higher than your level, it goes down fast [21:11] you get 500exp a kill nowadays :p [21:11] diamondwing: *epic* flying mount talent costs 5000 [21:11] * joins: eep_sanity [21:11] <screamher> flight form ftw [21:11] damn druidsw [21:11] <mithanan> indeed [21:11] but i have no problem going up almost 1 level per day [21:11] * quits: eep_sanity ("http://webchat.xs4all.nl (eof)"#) [21:11] ye well.. the mount or the flying skill hehe same shit :p [21:11] is there anything people would like to discuss sanity wise? (before chatting on about xp...) [21:11] * joins: eep_sanity [21:11] <shaerla> actually its not that weird 500 xp per kill. i remember getting 300-400 in the upper 50's [21:11] diamondwing: but you can get *normal* flying mount at 70 for "only" 900g or so [21:12] * quits: kazcara ("leaving"#) [21:12] *slams hammer on desk* note my statement/question ;) [21:12] <screamher> lol [21:12] can i get candy fate ? [21:12] me looks very cute :d [21:12] is everyone content with having this chat? [21:12] oh yes, what dia said! [21:12] <smokaaar> that would be rested xp? [21:13] so, a short resume of what we said ? [21:13] <screamher> im happy fate [21:13] <smokaaar> hmm been a long time =p [21:13] <shaerla> not really smoker [21:13] we as in you, officers

[21:13] i will see if i can post a brief scorecard of tonight, might take a few days [21:14] will also add some overlooked info if any [21:14] * joins: kazcara [21:14] just one thing [21:14] before i conclude the meeting, is there anything else someone would like to add? [21:14] i /think/ i can upload it to be opened as a file and link on forums too, irfate :) [21:15] we will continue the loot concuil ye ? as we have done it befor ? [21:15] and be crit by a wall of text tarka =p but go ahead, you too dia, go ahead [21:15] aye dia [21:15] yes, i missed one thing, in january before tbc, we back to raiding? [21:15] with some... "refinements" perhaps [21:15] not that long ;) [21:15] like a more clear way how loot and alts are done [21:15] * quits: hopes ("http://webchat.xs4all.nl (eof)"#) [21:15] * joins: hopes [21:15] * quits: hopes ("http://webchat.xs4all.nl (eof)"#) [21:15] with sicketing there are a lot of items that drop that can be for almost any class, customised by what sickets are put in [21:15] socketing* [21:15] i guess tier 4 can be gotten in pugs .. as they drop in heromod 5 man [21:16] i'm guessing, that will be my task... to rewrite the lootcouncil document =p [21:16] ;p [21:16] ah 5 man loot will be handled by the 5 man group and not by a loot council, though common sense is mandatory [21:16] * joins: hopes [21:16] wrong button ;/ [21:16] mandatory, with capital m [21:17] baring in mind hero mode 5 man is teir 4 :p [21:17] will not be handled... sorry [21:17] erm will be handled... i corrected a non existant mistake argh [21:17] * ironaya gives irfate a cookie [21:17] now i got confused :p [21:17] <screamher> lol /pat [21:18] <shaerla> in easy language: loot council in raids, 5-mans use common sense [21:18] to restate for clarity.. up to the group to whom items go in 5 man groups, common sense mandatory [21:18] hehe [21:18] sha pwns fate [21:18] ;p [21:18] <shaerla> loot argueing <--- not a good diea :p [21:18] <shaerla> idea even [21:19] i'm off guys, cya ingame tomorrow

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