June 22 Chat Session

Yahoo! Messenger (6/22/2007 11:29:05 PM): mary jane torres has joined the conference. Yahoo! Messenger (6/22/2007 11:29:07 PM): sirlancelot707 has joined the conference. Yahoo! Messenger (6/22/2007 11:29:07 PM): Pauline Arquelada has joined the conference. Yahoo! Messenger (6/22/2007 11:29:07 PM): jay_licauco has joined the conference. Yahoo! Messenger (6/22/2007 11:29:08 PM): srmaristela has joined the conference. Yahoo! Messenger (6/22/2007 11:29:08 PM): ofw_in_upou has joined the conference. Yahoo! Messenger (6/22/2007 11:29:09 PM): james20061220 has joined the conference. Yahoo! Messenger (6/22/2007 11:29:09 PM): shai_camacho has joined the conference. Yahoo! Messenger (6/22/2007 11:29:13 PM): wingzerocustom_15 has joined the conference. james20061220 (6/22/2007 11:29:33 PM): good evening shai_camacho (6/22/2007 11:29:43 PM): god evening everybody srmaristela (6/22/2007 11:29:46 PM): good evening sa lahat Yahoo! Messenger (6/22/2007 11:29:56 PM): francy_tc has joined the conference. sirlancelot707 (6/22/2007 11:29:59 PM): Hi to everybody ofw_in_upou (6/22/2007 11:30:02 PM): naku po..ala ako voice here: wingzerocustom_15 (6/22/2007 11:30:07 PM): Good evening to everyone.. francy_tc (6/22/2007 11:30:23 PM): Hello Sir! francy_tc (6/22/2007 11:30:54 PM): Uh, is anyone supposed to be speaking? I can't hear anything. Yahoo! Messenger (6/22/2007 11:31:09 PM): wingzerocustom_15 has left the conference . Pauline Arquelada (6/22/2007 11:31:19 PM): good evening sir and classmates shai_camacho (6/22/2007 11:31:26 PM): no... just type your msges,francy sirlancelot707 (6/22/2007 11:31:44 PM): Hi Shair sirlancelot707 (6/22/2007 11:31:47 PM): Shai sirlancelot707 (6/22/2007 11:31:48 PM): hehehe francy_tc (6/22/2007 11:31:49 PM): Hello Shai! sirlancelot707 (6/22/2007 11:31:54 PM): Parang Noridel! sirlancelot707 (6/22/2007 11:31:58 PM): hehhee ofw_in_upou (6/22/2007 11:32:01 PM): Hi everyone shai_camacho (6/22/2007 11:32:06 PM): hello anthony good eve! francy_tc (6/22/2007 11:32:09 PM): Hello classmates!!! Yahoo! Messenger (6/22/2007 11:32:37 PM): srmaristela has joined the conference. francy_tc (6/22/2007 11:32:40 PM): Haha! srmaristela (6/22/2007 11:32:45 PM): thanks sir...jane ofw_in_upou (6/22/2007 11:32:47 PM): hi sirlancelot hirap...i cant memorize the name behind the ym id hehehe sirlancelot707 (6/22/2007 11:32:59 PM): Anthony ofw_in_upou (6/22/2007 11:33:01 PM): pls type your name...hehehe ofw_in_upou (6/22/2007 11:33:05 PM): hi anthony... shai_camacho (6/22/2007 11:33:10 PM): hello ofw in upou... wats ur name? francy_tc (6/22/2007 11:33:12 PM): Francy mary jane torres (6/22/2007 11:33:15 PM): shasha babae ako francy_tc (6/22/2007 11:33:17 PM): Where is Sir?

ofw_in_upou (6/22/2007 11:33:18 PM): im noridel shai shai_camacho (6/22/2007 11:33:33 PM): hi noridel francy_tc (6/22/2007 11:33:44 PM): Ciao Noridel! francy_tc (6/22/2007 11:33:55 PM): Kumusta ka rin, classmate! ofw_in_upou (6/22/2007 11:33:56 PM): sir larry...where are you...5 mins more this internet cafe will close...prayer(salah) time..huhuhu ofw_in_upou (6/22/2007 11:34:15 PM): marhaba francy and classmates...sis jane... ofw_in_upou (6/22/2007 11:34:32 PM): hi pauline... sirlancelot707 (6/22/2007 11:34:38 PM): hi to all mary jane torres (6/22/2007 11:34:41 PM): hi kuya del francy_tc (6/22/2007 11:34:46 PM): Hello Pauline! Pauline Arquelada (6/22/2007 11:34:52 PM): hi, senior citizen's club tyo ha sirlancelot707 (6/22/2007 11:35:02 PM): naku ofw_in_upou (6/22/2007 11:35:04 PM): yeah sis pauline francy_tc (6/22/2007 11:35:06 PM): Hindi pa po ako senior! Hehe. sirlancelot707 (6/22/2007 11:35:11 PM): di senior citizen si Francy at ako sirlancelot707 (6/22/2007 11:35:12 PM): hahaha ofw_in_upou (6/22/2007 11:35:15 PM): kami lang francy hehehe ofw_in_upou (6/22/2007 11:35:23 PM): huhuhuhu.yaw nila senior hehehe francy_tc (6/22/2007 11:35:28 PM): Haha, okay. Gotcha. francy_tc (6/22/2007 11:35:41 PM): Hindi po! I adore all of you! ofw_in_upou (6/22/2007 11:35:43 PM): di bale...we have discount in bus and movie hehehe ofw_in_upou (6/22/2007 11:35:51 PM): welcome sir larry francy_tc (6/22/2007 11:35:53 PM): Oh, how I know! Pauline Arquelada (6/22/2007 11:36:01 PM): ok, bagets not forgets shai_camacho (6/22/2007 11:36:21 PM): wow ganda topic ah! age! hahaha ofw_in_upou (6/22/2007 11:36:29 PM): class quiet..sir larry is here now... ofw_in_upou (6/22/2007 11:36:32 PM): hehehe ofw_in_upou (6/22/2007 11:36:40 PM): wag na pagusapan age... francy_tc (6/22/2007 11:36:48 PM): What's Sir Larry's username? Where is he? sirlancelot707 (6/22/2007 11:36:48 PM): age doesnt matter ika nga ofw_in_upou (6/22/2007 11:37:01 PM): mmapolon si sir larry francy francy_tc (6/22/2007 11:37:14 PM): Oh okay... sirlancelot707 (6/22/2007 11:37:29 PM): Noridel sirlancelot707 (6/22/2007 11:37:36 PM): Lancelot parin ba name ko d2? ofw_in_upou (6/22/2007 11:37:38 PM): yes anthony shai_camacho (6/22/2007 11:37:40 PM): cno si nalaladok? ofw_in_upou (6/22/2007 11:37:45 PM): oo anthony ofw_in_upou (6/22/2007 11:37:52 PM): shai...si sir larry un sirlancelot707 (6/22/2007 11:37:52 PM) : naku po nalaladok (6/22/2007 11:37:52 PM): sir ito ung offline message ko: Sir sa araw-araw na salita, ano ang ibig sabihin ng LOGIC? o fw_in_upou (6/22/2007 11:37:57 PM): ay mali pala hehehe Yahoo! Messenger (6/22/2007 11:38:01 PM): jay_licauco has joined the conference. Yahoo! Messenger (6/22/2007 11:38:01 PM): mary jane torres has joined the conference.

Yahoo! Messenger (6/22/2007 11:38:02 PM): james20061220 has joined the conference. Yahoo! Messenger (6/22/2007 11:38:03 PM): sirlancelot707 has joined the conference. Yahoo! Messenger (6/22/2007 11:38:03 PM): jay_licauco has left the conference. Yahoo! Messenger (6/22/2007 11:38:06 PM): james20061220 has left the conference. james20061220 (6/22/2007 11:38:11 PM): wb mary jane torres (6/22/2007 11:38:11 PM): hala ibang conference mary jane torres (6/22/2007 11:38:23 PM): hi uli francy_tc (6/22/2007 11:38:32 PM): Dalawa? mary jane torres (6/22/2007 11:38:35 PM) : doon ata tayo sa kabila ofw_in_upou (6/22/2007 11:38:38 PM): start now ofw_in_upou (6/22/2007 11:38:40 PM): asan na mary jane torres (6/22/2007 11:38:41 PM): nawala si sir ditto Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/22/2007 11:38:44 PM): Helllo Vieeeetnam ... ofw_in_upou (6/22/2007 11:38:46 PM): i nvite nyo ako..hehehe Yahoo! Messenger (6/22/2007 11:38:48 PM): francy_tc has joined the conference. francy_tc (6/22/2007 11:38:49 PM): yung isa? Yahoo! Messenger (6/22/2007 11:38:49 PM): mary jane torres has left the conference. ofw_in_upou (6/22/2007 11:39:01 PM): wheew..what happen srmaristela (6/22/2007 11:39:09 PM): san na sila? mary jane torres (6/22/2007 11:39:10 PM): good evening Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/22/2007 11:39:22 PM): good evening... jay_licauco (6/22/2007 11:39:23 PM): gandang gabi clasmates!!! jay_licauco (6/22/2007 11:39:26 PM): sir! francy_tc (6/22/2007 11:39:27 PM): Why do we have to have two conferences? Pauline Arquelada (6/22/2007 11:39:28 PM): nandyan naman si sir ha, bakit sila umalis? Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/22/2007 11:39:34 PM): sino po ang bago tonight? ofw_in_upou (6/22/2007 11:39:35 PM): yeah.. ofw_in_upou (6/22/2007 11:39:36 PM): bakit nga nalaladok (voice): Ako po sir, Yahoo! Messenger (6/22/2007 11:39:43 PM): ofw_in_upou has joined the conference. francy_tc (6/22/2007 11:39:46 PM): Why do we have to have two conferences? Pauline Arquelada (6/22/2007 11:39:46 PM): wers my invite? sirlancelot707 (6/22/2007 11:39:53 PM): Si Francy Yahoo! Messenger (6/22/2007 11:39:53 PM): srmaristela has joined the conference . Yahoo! Messenger (6/22/2007 11:40:03 PM): srmaristela has left the conference. shai_camacho (6/22/2007 11:40:09 PM): pls invite me... ofw_in_upou (6/22/2007 11:40:10 PM): why two...and sir larry is in two conference francy_tc (6/22/2007 11:40:16 PM): Does that mean meron kayong conference last night? I wasn't there? Pauline Arquelada (6/22/2007 11:40:23 PM): wala pa akong invite? Yahoo! Messenger (6/22/2007 11:40:27 PM): Pauline Arquelada has joined the conference. ofw_in_upou (6/22/2007 11:40:27 PM): hello Yahoo! Messenger (6/22/2007 11:40:29 PM): Pauline Arquelada has left the conference. Yahoo! Messenger (6/22/2007 11:40:33 PM): ofw_in_upou has left the conference. srmaristela (6/22/2007 11:40:33 PM): yep...francy

jay_licauco (6/22/2007 11:40:53 PM): sir we can hear u francy_tc (6/22/2007 11:40:55 PM): Oh man! Does this happen every night? james20061220 (6/22/2007 11:40:59 PM): ME! jay_licauco (6/22/2007 11:40:59 PM): pero napuputol ofw_in_upou (6/22/2007 11:41:00 PM): I'm only available during friday huuhuhu james20061220 (6/22/2007 11:41:00 PM): i'm new james20061220 (6/22/2007 11:41:02 PM): fresh! james20061220 (6/22/2007 11:41:03 PM): hehe francy_tc (6/22/2007 11:41:05 PM): I don't know about it. Pauline Arquelada (6/22/2007 11:41:07 PM): good evening to all francy_tc (6/22/2007 11:41:11 PM): nalaladok (6/22/2007 11:41:13 PM): Sir sa araw-araw na salita, ano ang ibig sabihin ng LOGIC? ofw_in_upou (6/22/2007 11:41:22 PM): sir larry and classmates...i have to close it now..prayer time francy_tc (6/22/2007 11:41:23 PM): Yes, buona notte to all! ofw_in_upou (6/22/2007 11:41:28 PM): byemuna...balik ako ulit hhuhuhu ofw_in_upou (6/22/2007 11:41:36 PM): close ang shop pag salah ofw_in_upou (6/22/2007 11:41:40 PM): byeee Yahoo! Messenger (6/22/2007 11:41:40 PM): shai_camacho has left the conference. Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/22/2007 11:41:44 PM): Logic? mary jane torres (6/22/2007 11:41:46 PM): bye kuya del francy_tc (6/22/2007 11:41:47 PM): What's Sir Larry's username? Yahoo! Messenger (6/22/2007 11:41:53 PM): ofw_in_upou has left the conference. sirlancelot707 (6/22/2007 11:42:15 PM): mmapolon francy srmaristela (6/22/2007 11:42:15 PM): sir larry is hilario francy srmaristela (6/22/2007 11:42:23 PM): francy_tc (6/22/2007 11:42:27 PM): Mmapolon. Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/22/2007 11:42:35 PM): The nearest I can think of is sensible thinking Yahoo! Messenger (6/22/2007 11:43:01 PM): mdeguzman1017 has joined the conference. francy_tc (6/22/2007 11:43:28 PM): And sensible thinking requires... nalaladok (voice): Sir ang ibig sabihin ba ng “sensible thnking” paggamit ng ating mga “senses” Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/22/2007 11:43:38 PM): Hindi armando... mdeguzman1017 (6/22/2007 11:43:43 PM): good evening Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/22/2007 11:44:01 PM): Sensibl meaning makabuluhan kung magsalita o mangatwiran ka... Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/22/2007 11:44:02 PM): No, thank you. Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/22/2007 11:44:18 PM): maayos ang daloy ng katwiran... francy_tc (6/22/2007 11:44:42 PM): I hope to acquire that whenever I debate with someone about a very strong topic. Yahoo! Messenger (6/22/2007 11:44:45 PM): sirlancelot707 has left the conference. Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/22/2007 11:44:46 PM): fran francy_tc (6/22/2007 11:44:56 PM): It sometimes misses me.

Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/22/2007 11:45:17 PM): Requires adherence to a set of rules called rules of inference Yahoo! Messenger (6/22/2007 11:45:37 PM): shai_camacho has joined the conference. Yahoo! Messenger (6/22/2007 11:45:40 PM): shai_camacho has joined the conference. francy_tc (6/22/2007 11:46:07 PM): Hey Shai! Join in! francy_tc (6/22/2007 11:46:12 PM): Where is everybody? shai_camacho (6/22/2007 11:46:23 PM): am i here now? francy_tc (6/22/2007 11:46:30 PM): Yes you are... Yahoo! Messenger (6/22/2007 11:46:31 PM): diana karen cruz has joined the conference. shai_camacho (6/22/2007 11:46:56 PM): thanks... thanks fr the invite jane sirlancelot707 (6/22/2007 11:46:58 PM): rules of inference? mary jane torres (6/22/2007 11:47:15 PM): sir excuse lang po...yung f2f bukas 10-12 lang daw sabi sa updlc sirlancelot707 (6/22/2007 11:47:22 PM): sir yun po ba ang topic natin ngaun? francy_tc (6/22/2007 11:47:37 PM): We have a face to face tomorrow? Where? Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/22/2007 11:47:53 PM): Halimbawa Aramando... pag sinabi mong hindi ako galit ,tapos sinabi mo ulit galit ako, it violates a rule called contradiction...insensible ka dahil isa lang ang puwedeng totoo at a time... shai_camacho (6/22/2007 11:47:56 PM): sa upd, palma hall... mary jane torres (6/22/2007 11:48:00 PM): Palma hall room 404 Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/22/2007 11:48:04 PM): TEKA ARMANDO... Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/22/2007 11:48:12 PM): Settle down muna tayo... Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/22/2007 11:49:05 PM): sorry naputol...had to change laptops...la voice yung gamit ko kanina... nalaladok (6/22/2007 11:49:15 PM): mary jane torres (6/22/2007 11:49:24 PM): shai_camacho (6/22/2007 11:49:33 PM): Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/22/2007 11:49:36 PM): basa ko muna ang mga inputs (queries)... sandali lkang... Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/22/2007 11:50:04 PM): isa lng po conference francy francy_tc (6/22/2007 11:50:16 PM): Yep, got it. I'm here. Yahoo! Messenger (6/22/2007 11:50:28 PM): francy_tc has left the conference. Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/22/2007 11:50:39 PM): Noridel,welcome from the land of endless sand james20061220 (6/22/2007 11:50:39 PM): ok sirlancelot707 (6/22/2007 11:51:33 PM): Sir, ng sasalah po si Noridel Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/22/2007 11:54:23 PM): yep...are you a moslem, Shahida? mdeguzman1017 (6/22/2007 11:54:30 PM): now I know.thanks Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/22/2007 11:55:00 PM): ANNNOUNCEMENT shai_camacho (6/22/2007 11:55:03 PM): by birth b... but christian ... cause i was baptized Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/22/2007 11:55:04 PM): F2F tom Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/22/2007 11:55:42 PM): 9-12 Plama Hall 404 Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/22/2007 11:55:46 PM): Diliman shai_camacho (6/22/2007 11:55:47 PM): now im returning to islam.... shai_camacho (6/22/2007 11:55:56 PM): thats y im reading ahmadiyyat and quran shai_camacho (6/22/2007 11:56:08 PM): sure na po yun,sir?

Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/22/2007 11:56:13 PM): Alhamdullilah... Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/22/2007 11:56:31 PM): sure po james20061220 (6/22/2007 11:56:36 PM): thanks! james20061220 (6/22/2007 11:56:42 PM): palma hall 404 Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/22/2007 11:56:53 PM): somebody invite melanie trani... shai_camacho (6/22/2007 11:57:22 PM): nasa part pa lang ako na i can read the text but cant understand it....self study po e... mary jane torres (6/22/2007 11:57:28 PM): sir ano po ym add nya Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/22/2007 11:57:30 PM): WHAT SHALL WE DISCUSS TONIGHT... shai_camacho (6/22/2007 11:58:35 PM): hmm... faith ! relevant sakin yun. .. Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/22/2007 11:59:04 PM): I s there a topic someone needs to discuss?Take-off point lang... Nalaladok (voice): kayo na lang mag-umpisa sir… sirlancelot707 (6/22/2007 11:59:45 PM): Sir srmaristela (6/22/2007 11:59:49 PM): eh...sir...our take off point po sa philo...where do we begin po? sirlancelot707 (6/22/2007 11:59:56 PM): pano po ung course guide natin sirlancelot707 (6/23/2007 12:00:07 AM): or ung outline sirlancelot707 (6/23/2007 12:00:10 AM): like po nung mga requirements sirlancelot707 (6/23/2007 12:00:11 AM): etc shai_camacho (6/23/2007 12:00:11 AM): about studying ourselves.... Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:02:26 AM): Studying ourselves, Shai... Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:02:29 AM): SIGE Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:03:11 AM): Anthony ...upload komamaya yung course guide sirlancelot707 (6/23/2007 12:03:25 AM): salamat po Sir shai_camacho (6/23/2007 12:04:04 AM): dba nasabi nyo po na dapat ndi tayo magulo sa sarili natin Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:04:49 AM): We have to know where we stand in so many different issues. Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:05:02 AM): We are definitely biased Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:05:14 AM): walang taong walang bias shai_camacho (6/23/2007 12:05:33 AM): yea we lean towards our emoyions james20061220 (6/23/2007 12:05:37 AM): yeah shai_camacho (6/23/2007 12:05:39 AM): emotions Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:05:56 AM): Nalilito ba tayo minsan dahil di na natin alam kung ano ang "tama" ,MALI" Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:06:06 AM): dapat, hindi dapat, james20061220 (6/23/2007 12:06:31 AM): pano yun kung minsan sir diba feeling mo tama pero parang mali james20061220 (6/23/2007 12:06:38 AM): at minsan naman parang in between mdeguzman1017 (6/23/2007 12:06:53 AM): paano natin gagawin yun sir? Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:06:59 AM): Kahapon sabi natin, dahil ito sa maraming naririnig at nakikita na nagsasabing sila ang tama...

shai_camacho (6/23/2007 12:07:37 AM): you need to clear your mind para magawa mo yun... Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:07:47 AM): The reality is we do not know what really is right,wrong,proper,improper, etc. Yahoo! Messenger (6/23/2007 12:07:51 AM): sky9ql has joined the conference. shai_camacho (6/23/2007 12:08:05 AM): kaya lang minsan yun nga lang mahirap ding gawin Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:08:15 AM): Minsan dahil lang sa tradition...remember that issue coming up last night shai? shai_camacho (6/23/2007 12:08:43 AM): about rational thinking sir? Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:08:48 AM): Kasi hindi malinaw sa atin kung anong dapat gawin dahil.. . shai_camacho (6/23/2007 12:09:25 AM): madaming nakapaligid satin... Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:09:30 AM): umaasa tayong may isang tama, isa lang ang totoo... etc. Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:09:43 AM): I do not believe we can know that... Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:09:47 AM) : people... mary jane torres (6/23/2007 12:09:54 AM): i agree sir diana karen cruz (6/23/2007 12:10:02 AM): sir pwede po magtanong Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:10:05 AM): Kung karelasyon nyo, sinabi "I love You? Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:10:18 AM): How do you know that it is true... Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:10:22 AM): sige nga... Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:10:31 AM): go diana diana karen cruz (6/23/2007 12:10:33 AM): sir sabi nyo po biased tayo Yahoo! Messenger (6/23/2007 12:10:38 AM): francy_tc has joined the conference. Yahoo! Messenger (6/23/2007 12:10:47 AM): francy_tc has joined the conference. diana karen cruz (6/23/2007 12:10:49 AM): kc po question ko din po sa sarili ko un nalaladok (voice): Sir base pos a nararamdaman, Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:10:54 AM): Base sa nararamdaman?Paano ka nakasisiguro? nalaladok (voice): Hindi ko rin po lam sir, diana karen cruz (6/23/2007 12:11:00 AM): kung nag eexist ba tlga ang objectivity Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:11:04 AM): alin, diana? mdeguzman1017 (6/23/2007 12:11:05 AM): we'll never know really diana karen cruz (6/23/2007 12:11:10 AM): kc nga po lahat tayo biased in our own way Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:11:13 AM): Yes marge... Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:11:21 AM): yun ang totoo mdeguzman1017 (6/23/2007 12:11:27 AM): sya lang talga nakakaalam nun shai_camacho (6/23/2007 12:11:28 AM): look straight into his eyes... Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:11:39 AM): Kaya puwede kong sabihin na I love you pero nanloloko ako mdeguzman1017 (6/23/2007 12:11:51 AM): right francy_tc (6/23/2007 12:11:59 AM): Maiba tayo. If someone says I love you to you, and he/she is not a boyfriend/girlfriend, what would you think?

shai_camacho (6/23/2007 12:12:10 AM): then titingnan ko kung totoo nga yun pero ndi din ako sigurado Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:12:51 AM): Pag may nabasa ka sa diyaryo...Pogi daw si Larry Mapolon...paano mo malalaman na totoo? sirlancelot707 (6/23/2007 12:12:57 AM): if a lie detector machine is available, isasalpak ko sya sa dun. mdeguzman1017 (6/23/2007 12:12:58 AM): he/she can use the word love loosely francy_tc (6/23/2007 12:13:25 AM): Love is a relative word. sirlancelot707 (6/23/2007 12:13:28 AM): I will see Larry Mapolon by myself to confirm the argument shai_camacho (6/23/2007 12:13:32 AM): hahanap mune ako ng picture ni larry mapolon.... james20061220 (6/23/2007 12:13:37 AM): sir we have our own opinion regarding things right nalaladok (voice): Sir kapag po may picture kayo na kasama sa diyaryo, kapag nakita ko, malalaman ko po kapag pogi nga kayo, Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:13:38 AM): Kahit may picture, armando...pogi is relative...magagalit nanay ko sa yo kung sinabi mong pangit ako francy_tc (6/23/2007 12:13:46 AM): Depends on who's saying it, how he said it, and how he acts after. james20061220 (6/23/2007 12:13:49 AM): so i think maganda sa iyo pwedeng panget sa akin Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:13:54 AM): kasi ang totoo sa nanay ko...pogi ako... sky9ql (6/23/2007 12:13:55 AM): faith lang talaga yan.. shai_camacho (6/23/2007 12:13:57 AM): then sakin na yung opinion ko... Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:14:02 AM): yes francy Yahoo! Messenger (6/23/2007 12:14:03 AM): ofw_in_upou has joined the conference. sirlancelot707 (6/23/2007 12:14:09 AM): Its in the eye of the beholder sky9ql (6/23/2007 12:14:10 AM): wla cgurong empirical evidence.. ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:14:14 AM): thanks sis jane...im back mdeguzman1017 (6/23/2007 12:14:16 AM): pero ang pogi sa yo pwedeng hindi pogi sa akin francy_tc (6/23/2007 12:14:18 AM): Haha! Nakakatawa pala si Sir! shai_camacho (6/23/2007 12:14:25 AM): kc iba ang pogi sayo sa pogi para sakin db.. ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:14:27 AM): wheewww..me topic na ata Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:14:29 AM): naks sky...naka empirical evidence ka na francy_tc (6/23/2007 12:14:34 AM): No empirical evidence, yes. Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:14:38 AM): SANDALI... nalaladok (voice): Sir tanong lang po ulit, ano po ang ibig sabihin ng “BIAS” sa tagalong? ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:14:43 AM): hala...nagbasa na sila... Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:14:52 AM): good... sky9ql (6/23/2007 12:15:01 AM): sir..^^ Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:15:06 AM): bias...pagkiling sa tagalog

mary jane torres (6/23/2007 12:15:16 AM): we see and accept things on different perspective Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:15:18 AM): yep Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:15:24 AM): TEKA,... Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:15:30 AM): Let me make my point... ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:15:51 AM): <<<
Sample case study2: Kung ikaw ay tumanggi sa pagyayaya ng iyong kaibigan, ano ang posibling mangyari sa’yo. Nakukunsensya ka dahil hindi mo s’ya napagbigyan, iniisip mo na nakasakit ka ng ibang tao at higit sa lahat ang taong yon ay ang iyong kaibigan. Iniisip mo rin na baka mawalan ka na ng kaibigan. From this part, hindi ko na po alam kung ano ang meron sa Philosopiya na pedeng magjustify tungkol sa “tama” o “mali” na naging desisyon mo, sa iyong palagay. Ang nalalaman ko lang: Friends are friends pero kung may mangyari sa’yo na hindi maganda, ikaw lang ang nakakaranas ng sakit nito, ikaw lang din ang kawawa. Ang tanging magagawa lang ng iyong kaibigan ay makiramay, yon lang. Para kay sir Larry, correct me here if I am wrong, Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:18:53 AM): ANG TAWAG DITO SA PILOSOPIYA, PROBLEM OF OTHER MINDS shai_camacho (6/23/2007 12:18:10 AM): you can feel.... ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:18:23 AM): no...unless naramdaman na natin yung sakit na yun Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:18:28 AM): but we can't possibly know exactly what another person thinks or feels francy_tc (6/23/2007 12:18:32 AM): For me, based on experience, you have to know the person very well to even have an iota of what he is thinking. Parang kaming magkakapatid, halos alam na namin ang iniisip ng bawat isa kasi we're always with each other. sky9ql (6/23/2007 12:18:36 AM): yes yes.. sky9ql (6/23/2007 12:18:38 AM): never.. Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:18:53 AM): ANG TAWAG DITO SA PILOSOPIYA, PROBLEM OF OTHER MINDS mdeguzman1017 (6/23/2007 12:18:55 AM): makiramay nga lang ...pero di natin talga alam kung gaano kasakit Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:19:09 AM): Anong implication nito... francy_tc (6/23/2007 12:19:11 AM): Other person means stranger siguro, noh? diana karen cruz (6/23/2007 12:19:33 AM): wala rin qualifier kung anu ung degree or level na nraramdaman ng isang tao Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:19:34 AM): Lahat tayo nakakulong sa sarili nating mundo na tayo lamang ang tuay na nakakita at nakdarama shai_camacho (6/23/2007 12:19:35 AM): pero may idea ka na masakit sa kanya kc nakikita mo din syang nahihirapan Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:19:38 AM): tunay... francy_tc (6/23/2007 12:19:42 AM): Kung gano kasakit ang... Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:19:52 AM): Interpretation natin yon, shai ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:20:10 AM): anong uri ng sakit po ito...emotional or physical? Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:20:35 AM): pero tingnan nyo...kahit lagariin natin ulo ni armando,di natin makikita iniisip nya... sirlancelot707 (6/23/2007 12:20:52 AM): hahaha! tama po sir Yahoo! Messenger (6/23/2007 12:20:52 AM): myklgarcia has joined the conference. Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:20:53 AM): Both emotional and physical... francy_tc (6/23/2007 12:21:01 AM): Yes, emotional or physical. Two very opposite things.

sky9ql (6/23/2007 12:21:02 AM): both ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:21:02 AM): salamat po sir Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:21:16 AM): KAYA ANF UNANG BATAYAN NG TOTOO AT HINDI TOTOO AY SARILI NATIN... sky9ql (6/23/2007 12:21:42 AM): even if you know the person very well,,, what if binago nya isip nya..extreme to what..you know..he/she'd think nalaladok (voice): so… kung idedefine natin ang katutuhanan, ang katutuhanan o truth ay base sa personal experience, Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:21:43 AM): yes ARMANDO.. . Added by nalaladok: “Maaaring ang totoo sa’yo ay hindi totoo sa akin at ang totoo sa akin ay maaaring hindi totoo sa’yo.” myklgarcia (6/23/2007 12:21:49 AM): Gud pm guys myklgarcia (6/23/2007 12:22:16 AM): Dianne thanks s invites Yahoo! Messenger (6/23/2007 12:22:21 AM): michcabana has joined the conference. Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:22:25 AM): Kaya mahalaga na alam natin kung ano ang batayan antin sa tama at mali.totoo at hindi... Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:22:37 AM): NGAYON...are we making sense so far? Nalaladok (voice): yes sir, sky9ql (6/23/2007 12:22:42 AM): yes sir! james20061220 (6/23/2007 12:22:43 AM): yep diana karen cruz (6/23/2007 12:22:43 AM): yes sir shai_camacho (6/23/2007 12:22:47 AM): yes sir michcabana (6/23/2007 12:22:50 AM): tnx mary jane mdeguzman1017 (6/23/2007 12:22:50 AM): yes,sir francy_tc (6/23/2007 12:22:52 AM): What if that person doesn't know that he delves into your mind? How and when does he know when to change his feelings? francy_tc (6/23/2007 12:23:02 AM): Yes, Sir. ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:23:04 AM): yes myklgarcia (6/23/2007 12:23:09 AM): Sir ano po ang topic natin? sirlancelot707 (6/23/2007 12:23:16 AM): Sir Yes Sir Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:23:17 AM): Yung morsality at truth, minsan we just agree to the truth... michcabana (6/23/2007 12:23:20 AM): yes wats the topic? Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:23:40 AM): its difficult to establish absolute truth... ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:23:48 AM): hindi po ba ang tao ibat iba ang level ng pain..both emotional at physical? Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:23:52 AM): halimbawa sinabi ko...nakaupo ako.. . shai_camacho (6/23/2007 12:23:56 AM): emotional /physical pain.. hoe to deal with it francy_tc (6/23/2007 12:23:56 AM): Mind reading, I think and feelings, Mich. Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:24:00 AM): totoo o hindi sky9ql (6/23/2007 12:24:06 AM): hindi ko alam.. Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:24:08 AM): totoo o hindi? Nalaladok (voice): totoo sir, sky9ql (6/23/2007 12:24:12 AM): at hindi malalamn.

james20061220 (6/23/2007 12:24:18 AM): malay ko james20061220 (6/23/2007 12:24:19 AM): hehe james20061220 (6/23/2007 12:24:22 AM): ako nakaupo Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:24:24 AM): kung sabihin kong nalkaupo ako...totoo na? nalaladok (voice): yes sir, mdeguzman1017 (6/23/2007 12:24:24 AM): hindi ko alam francy_tc (6/23/2007 12:24:26 AM): Maybe yes, maybe no, sir. Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:24:30 AM): Kung niloloko kita? Added by nalaladok: Sir what I mean here is that, I believe na nakaupo ka because you are telling me, and that is because you are the person in autority, that’s why I believe na nakaupo nga kayo. Isa pa, kahaba kayang oras ang pagchachat natin kaya maaring nakaupo nga kayo. mdeguzman1017 (6/23/2007 12:24:39 AM): pwede srmaristela (6/23/2007 12:24:46 AM): eh but sir i can take your word for it Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:24:47 AM): Alam nyo mga kapatid sa pananampalataya... michcabana (6/23/2007 12:24:52 AM): pedeng totoo pedeng nde myklgarcia (6/23/2007 12:24:55 AM): pwede sir shai_camacho (6/23/2007 12:24:57 AM): tatanungin muna kita ng iba pa para may idea po ko sir francy_tc (6/23/2007 12:24:59 AM): Don't believe anything you hear, only half of what you see. I heard that. myklgarcia (6/23/2007 12:25:03 AM): mahirap mag computer ng nakatayo sirlancelot707 (6/23/2007 12:25:03 AM): i think, kung ang batayan mo ng truth is to see is to believe, No srmaristela (6/23/2007 12:25:04 AM): sus...di na tayo grasshoppers Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:25:06 AM): yes sasha... diana karen cruz (6/23/2007 12:25:09 AM): uu nga hihi Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:25:24 AM): and that is the reality of life... james20061220 (6/23/2007 12:25:42 AM): sino po si sasha? james20061220 (6/23/2007 12:25:43 AM): Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:25:45 AM): lahat ng alam nating totoo ay bstay sa palagay ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:25:46 AM): sabi sa libro..wag maniniwala hanggat hindi nakikita ang patunay Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:26:01 AM): Noridel... shai_camacho (6/23/2007 12:26:13 AM): skeptical ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:26:14 AM): yes sir sirlancelot707 (6/23/2007 12:26:17 AM): parang scientific reasoning Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:26:21 AM): Alin sa mga katoothanan daw ang kakikitaan mo ng patunay... michcabana (6/23/2007 12:26:21 AM): is it like to see is to believe? myklgarcia (6/23/2007 12:26:24 AM): @ ofw_in_upou: e paano naman yung concept of God?

Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:26:40 AM): kailangan mo bang pumunta sa san andres para makita kung nakaupo ako? nalaladok (voice): sir malapit lang po ako sa san Andres, ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:26:44 AM): its a faith naman myk... sirlancelot707 (6/23/2007 12:26:48 AM): do not conclude until you verified the hyphothesis Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:26:51 AM): yes Noridel... michcabana (6/23/2007 12:27:13 AM): and how do you verify hypothesis is to see facts? Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:27:21 AM): Tao TAYO kasi...yun ang limitassyon ng kakayahan nating mag-isip michcabana (6/23/2007 12:27:21 AM): that would verify truth sirlancelot707 (6/23/2007 12:27:22 AM): Yes srmaristela (6/23/2007 12:27:26 AM): but i have the option of trusting you sir Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:27:58 AM): mich but sa dami ng kailangan nating i-veruify, 99% of waht we think are ture are really unverifiable... ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:28:00 AM): no sir...pero pag sinabi mo nakaupo ka at alam ko namang nasa gitna ka ng dagat at wala kang kinakapitan...then masasabi ko di ka nakaupo sirlancelot707 (6/23/2007 12:28:21 AM): It depends on your basis of truth ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:28:21 AM): pilosopo na ata ako Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:28:24 AM): paano mo malalaman na nsaa gitna ako ng dagat... Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:28:33 AM): OOKEY... sky9ql (6/23/2007 12:28:33 AM): sukatin Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:28:37 AM): LETS SUMMARIZE sky9ql (6/23/2007 12:28:40 AM): pero malabo yon srmaristela (6/23/2007 12:28:48 AM): sukatin ang ano karen? Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:28:51 AM): alin ang malabo sky/ shai_camacho (6/23/2007 12:28:52 AM): hmm.. i see how we can be bias.. kc nga dun sa limitation na yun ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:28:53 AM): ahehehe... sky9ql (6/23/2007 12:28:55 AM): ung dagat Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:29:05 AM): SUJMARY diana karen cruz (6/23/2007 12:29:08 AM): 99% unverifiable diana karen cruz (6/23/2007 12:29:14 AM): mdami din ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:29:46 AM): so ano po kelangan natin madama at makita para ma-convince kung totoo nga ang sinasabi ng isang tao ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:29:59 AM): cge po..summary sky9ql (6/23/2007 12:30:16 AM): game summary shai_camacho (6/23/2007 12:30:23 AM): yung mga ndi natin maexplain minsan tinatanggap na lang natin kc para sa tin yun ang tama.... Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:30:25 AM): Kaya kailangan malinaw sa atin ang batayan ng katotohanan,tama,mali, guapo at hindi...Sa sarili lamang natin ito magkakaroon ng kahulugan ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:30:45 AM): ahh...in short..kanya kanyang interpretation

francy_tc (6/23/2007 12:30:46 AM): We are not required to feel anything kasi kahit we can feel, we are not sure of it. Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:30:48 AM): Kahit anong payo ng iba, it will still boil down to you in the end... Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:31:03 AM) : Kaya sabi natin, magsimula sa sarili... Added by nalaladok: so it is like, “know thyself and everything will come unto they”, or “the unexamined life is not worth living,” michcabana (6/23/2007 12:31:08 AM): Yes and we have the power to choose & believe into something, we also the reasoning power with our mind, kaya nga TAYO lang meron nun Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:31:09 AM): makes sense? nalaladok (voice): yes sir, francy_tc (6/23/2007 12:31:15 AM): Yep, to the person. shai_camacho (6/23/2007 12:31:16 AM): iba iba din ang meaning nito sa bawat tao... iba iba pananaw ng bawat isa ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:31:19 AM): yes sir...got it sky9ql (6/23/2007 12:31:21 AM): yes sir Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:31:24 AM): Yeas mich mary jane torres (6/23/2007 12:31:27 AM): yes sir... mdeguzman1017 (6/23/2007 12:31:31 AM): yes sirlancelot707 (6/23/2007 12:31:40 AM): i agree Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:31:40 AM): Ngayon, having said that... ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:31:42 AM): like bible..why it has many interpretation in every religion..isa lang naman ang bible francy_tc (6/23/2007 12:31:52 AM): Affirmative, sir. sirlancelot707 (6/23/2007 12:31:59 AM): tama po sirlancelot707 (6/23/2007 12:32:03 AM): iba iba nga michcabana (6/23/2007 12:32:05 AM): thats the purpose why God gave us the mind sky9ql (6/23/2007 12:32:08 AM): because different people are reading it Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:32:12 AM): Yep noridel... ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:32:16 AM): yeah...got it sirlancelot707 (6/23/2007 12:32:17 AM): although they are using the same text Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:32:29 AM): Sabi ng Kristiayano totoo sila dahil nasusulat sirlancelot707 (6/23/2007 12:32:30 AM): yet they interpret it differently shai_camacho (6/23/2007 12:32:35 AM): pag binasa mo mga bible ng ibat ibang religion makikitang magkakadugtong slang lahat mdeguzman1017 (6/23/2007 12:32:37 AM): sariling diskarte mo na francy_tc (6/23/2007 12:32:37 AM): People can't read minds. They can surmise but they can't possible be sure. francy_tc (6/23/2007 12:32:43 AM): Correct ba ako sir? Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:32:49 AM): sabi ng Muslim totoo sila dahil nasusulat... nalaladok (voice): smiling… sky9ql (6/23/2007 12:33:02 AM): e sino ang nagsulat?

ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:33:04 AM): di kataka taka kung muslim at kristiyano because they have their own ...but both christian...hmmn Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:33:08 AM): pag nag-away,barilan na lang... mdeguzman1017 (6/23/2007 12:33:23 AM): sir, naman. shai_camacho (6/23/2007 12:33:28 AM): tao ang may gawa ng bible ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:33:38 AM): hehehee..di barilan sir...tagpasan ng ulo Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:33:41 AM): Yes armando... francy_tc (6/23/2007 12:33:47 AM): Hindi ba tayo nasusulat? sky9ql (6/23/2007 12:34:02 AM): pde naman i edit cguro?,,, Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:34:06 AM): TEKA...may query si armando... Added by nalaladok: Hinid ko matandaan yong query ko dito, pero ang sinasabi ko rito: kung ang kakayahan ng tao na mag-isip ay limited ng space, meron ba itong tawag o pangalan, ano ang tawag nito sa Philosopiya? ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:34:12 AM): naku..bakit ba tayo napunta sa bible hehe ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:34:16 AM): yes bro arman Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:34:35 AM): Ano daw yung kahulugan ng "limitado tayo sa space... Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:34:39 AM): Okey michcabana (6/23/2007 12:34:43 AM): well PHILO kasi laging naiinterconnect se religion Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:35:04 AM): Sa philosophy...may tinatawag na problem of space and time Nalaladok (voice): oh I see, dahil matter tayo, ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:35:07 AM): limitado sa space....medyo masikip sir shai_camacho (6/23/2007 12:35:16 AM): madaming questions revolving around faith kc e Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:35:30 AM): sabi nito...We can occupy only one point in space and time... Nalaladok (voice): ganun din ang turo ng science ah, michcabana (6/23/2007 12:35:31 AM): as humans we have so many great powers like the mind pero limited or else edi sana tayo na gumawa ng earth diba Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:35:37 AM): eto nga francy_tc (6/23/2007 12:35:44 AM): And hirap pag-usapan ng religion! We will go nowhere! Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:36:02 AM): puwede bat tyong in two places at thesame time... Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:36:14 AM): problema nito... ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:36:14 AM): no no sir michcabana (6/23/2007 12:36:15 AM): nope srmaristela (6/23/2007 12:36:15 AM): no can do po sir... mdeguzman1017 (6/23/2007 12:36:21 AM): no shai_camacho (6/23/2007 12:36:22 AM): yea we humans cannot be in two places at once.... sky9ql (6/23/2007 12:36:26 AM): pde ..pero hindi buo.. Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:36:28 AM): Things are simultaneously happening...

sky9ql (6/23/2007 12:36:30 AM): kalahati.. francy_tc (6/23/2007 12:36:34 AM): Spiritually, like supernaturally, I believe yes. michcabana (6/23/2007 12:36:34 AM): we can do a lot things at the same time like multi task mary jane torres (6/23/2007 12:36:42 AM): physically we cannot ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:36:44 AM): mind pwd..but physical...no michcabana (6/23/2007 12:36:55 AM): yes, spiritual how? shai_camacho (6/23/2007 12:36:57 AM): but how come theres astral projection? Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:37:07 AM): paano natin malalamna yung nangyayari kung hindi natin nakikita o naririnig... francy_tc (6/23/2007 12:37:13 AM): Yes, mentally. ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:37:30 AM): astral projection..is it verified? francy_tc (6/23/2007 12:37:37 AM): Yes Sahi! Astral projection! Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:37:40 AM): ganun tayo ka limitado...nasa likod mo nga, di mo alam kung nao ang nagyayari eh... michcabana (6/23/2007 12:37:43 AM): a person can always invent to make evryone else believe Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:37:47 AM): paano sa labas ng kuwarto... Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:37:53 AM): paano sa iraq... sky9ql (6/23/2007 12:37:54 AM): a... francy_tc (6/23/2007 12:38:00 AM): Shai. francy_tc (6/23/2007 12:38:00 AM): Yes. shai_camacho (6/23/2007 12:38:04 AM): by psychics.... but by ordinary people... i dont think so michcabana (6/23/2007 12:38:12 AM): nasa tao na lang kung maniniwala o nde again a choice Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:38:20 AM): Kay sinasabi na limitado andg pagiisip natin ng sitwasyong ito... Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:38:40 AM): maya kinalaman ito sa pinag-uusapna natin tungkol sa katotohanan... shai_camacho (6/23/2007 12:39:06 AM): can you say po ba na you always have a choice? ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:39:17 AM): hanggang saan po ba mapapatunayan ang katotohanan michcabana (6/23/2007 12:39:24 AM): yes, pros and cons Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:39:29 AM): Ibig sabihin...halos 99% ng alam nating lkatotohanan ay batay lamang sa paniniwalang totoo ito...hindi necessarily dahil talagang totoo ito... Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:39:54 AM): Si Galman ang pumatay kay ninoy. francy_tc (6/23/2007 12:39:56 AM): There is no I don't have a choice. Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:40:00 AM): Nagkadayaan sa mindanao francy_tc (6/23/2007 12:40:03 AM): I believe in that sir. ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:40:03 AM): gano po kalakas yung 1% sir Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:40:11 AM): tumatae si GMA ngayon.. . ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:40:29 AM): me dayaan sa mindanao..if im inthe opposittion..maniniwala ako..pag sa admin ako..of course hindi

Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:40:40 AM): Mahina ,Noridel sky9ql (6/23/2007 12:40:45 AM): bias nga ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:40:58 AM): mahina nga sir dahil bias talaga yun.. Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:41:06 AM): That's why its difficult to arrogate upon ourselves that we know the truth... ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:41:07 AM): pero un madalas mangyari sa mga tao michcabana (6/23/2007 12:41:09 AM): yes one sided Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:41:22 AM): ONLY THET WE BELIEVE IT TO BE TRU... sky9ql (6/23/2007 12:41:31 AM): yes.. michcabana (6/23/2007 12:41:31 AM): but if we think outside the box sirlancelot707 (6/23/2007 12:41:32 AM): we always want others to believe what we want them to believe sky9ql (6/23/2007 12:41:43 AM): we..from within Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:41:44 AM): EVEN IF WE THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX... francy_tc (6/23/2007 12:41:53 AM): Then it would be very difficult for anyone to know the TRUE TRUTH!!! Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:41:59 AM): First premise yon.. . Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:42:15 AM): Sabi nga ng kanta...Tanging Diyos Lamang ang Nakakaalam... shai_camacho (6/23/2007 12:42:16 AM): we tend to lean towards the part that is favorable to us michcabana (6/23/2007 12:42:22 AM): i agree, trying to convince evryone ur with when in fact they dont think the same way Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:42:25 AM): sometimes, shai... ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:42:33 AM): kaya wag muna maniniwala sa bawat salita...kumpirmahin muna michcabana (6/23/2007 12:42:40 AM): or to the greater good francy_tc (6/23/2007 12:42:45 AM): Yes, Tony. And yet, that is not possible. Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:42:54 AM): NOW ...anong kinalaman nito sa pagtaas ng bilihin...sa nangyayari sa mundo... sirlancelot707 (6/23/2007 12:43:00 AM): yep francy, thats why we have Wars Yahoo! Messenger (6/23/2007 12:43:12 AM): Ma. Socorro Ates has joined the conference. Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:43:15 AM): YEp anthony... francy_tc (6/23/2007 12:43:19 AM): Wow. I'm starting to doubt everything from now on. Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:43:22 AM): One Philosospher Said... sirlancelot707 (6/23/2007 12:43:42 AM): thats why US invaded Iraq francy_tc (6/23/2007 12:43:42 AM): Gosh. ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:43:44 AM): pagtaas ng bilihin?lagi ng pagtaas ng langis sa gulf ang dahilan nila sir...hindi ito totoo lagi Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:43:47 AM): All the problems in this world can be reduced to a problem of language... Added by nalaladok: sir ano pong ibig sabihin ng “Problem of Language,” ito ba ay problem sa “terminology” na ginagamit o problem sa pag-unawa sa buhay?

michcabana (6/23/2007 12:44:10 AM): same wave? Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:44:18 AM): TEKA...so far malinaw? michcabana (6/23/2007 12:44:29 AM): yes shai_camacho (6/23/2007 12:44:32 AM): can u say miscommunication... sky9ql (6/23/2007 12:44:33 AM): yes.. mdeguzman1017 (6/23/2007 12:44:35 AM): yes sirlancelot707 (6/23/2007 12:44:36 AM): US believes that Saddam has WMD, while Iraq believes that they dont have it mary jane torres (6/23/2007 12:44:36 AM): yes ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:44:40 AM): malinaw sir na hindi dapat maniwala...hanggat walang pruweba Yahoo! Messenger (6/23/2007 12:44:48 AM): myklgarcia has joined the conference. Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:44:51 AM): THE FOUNDATION OF KNOWLEDGE IS INDIVIDUAL BELIEF... sirlancelot707 (6/23/2007 12:44:58 AM): yet when US Invaded Iraq, there is nothing sky9ql (6/23/2007 12:44:59 AM): pero hindi lahat may evidence francy_tc (6/23/2007 12:45:00 AM): Yes. But perspective-wise, a little bleak. ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:45:07 AM): and yun nga...kanya kanyang paniwala... sirlancelot707 (6/23/2007 12:45:10 AM): naniwala sila sa kung anong alam nilang tama michcabana (6/23/2007 12:45:16 AM): yes Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:45:23 AM): Common knowledge is when people talk and agree to what they believe... nalaladok (6/23/2007 12:45:37 AM): copy sir, shai_camacho (6/23/2007 12:45:38 AM): yes Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:45:41 AM): yes sky... sky9ql (6/23/2007 12:45:42 AM): game language.. sirlancelot707 (6/23/2007 12:45:45 AM): and even made others believe it as well, but in the end, opinion lang nila un Pauline Arquelada (6/23/2007 12:45:45 AM): agree michcabana (6/23/2007 12:45:53 AM): communication ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:45:56 AM): second emotion shai_camacho (6/23/2007 12:45:56 AM): its a mind game sky9ql (6/23/2007 12:45:59 AM): language game pla ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:46:04 AM): ahhhhh Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:46:17 AM): Language game...Ludwig Wittgenstein...now what he says makes sense in this context. francy_tc (6/23/2007 12:46:28 AM): And what they believe may not be neccessarily right. francy_tc (6/23/2007 12:46:28 AM): Correct sir! sky9ql (6/23/2007 12:46:31 AM): yes sir ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:46:34 AM): so sinasabi nga...dapat tanungin mo muna ang meaning ng word na sinasabi ng kausap mo or pano nya ginamit Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:46:36 AM): OKEY SNADALI ... Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:46:45 AM): Pag binasa nyo ang libro...

Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:47:14 AM): May nakalagay doonbasis of verifying knowledge calims...in plain language...ano ba talaga, kuya... ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:47:33 AM): dapat same ang paggamit natin ng word...otherwise di tlaga magkakaintindihan.. Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:47:51 AM): Kailangan i-contextualize yon...kaya di ko muna pinapabasa ang libro...baka malito tayo.. francy_tc (6/23/2007 12:48:27 AM): Ah. I've read some pages already, Sir. ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:48:29 AM): sir ano po ba yung sinasabi na dpat pareho ang paggamit ng word...ayon sa libro Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:48:51 AM): Hey, Noridel, what you just said is the very thesi of Wittgenstein nung sianbi nyang " The meaning of a word is its use in a Lanugage gae" ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:49:00 AM): got it sir Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:49:25 AM): Anyway... Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:50:13 AM): Yung batayang pag-iisip na ito ang lilinawin natin bukas bago tayo pumaloob sa libro o sa buhay... Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:50:29 AM): Are we still making sense...? nalaladok (voice): yes sir, Pauline Arquelada (6/23/2007 12:50:34 AM): sir excuse me..few hours sleep na lang ako for our study session, need to wake up early pa at taga sta rosa ako ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:50:34 AM): yes sir..clear shai_camacho (6/23/2007 12:50:36 AM): yes sir.. mdeguzman1017 (6/23/2007 12:50:40 AM): opo Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:50:46 AM): OSYA... mary jane torres (6/23/2007 12:50:51 AM): got it sir Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:50:55 AM): TULOG MUNA TAYO...

shai_camacho (6/23/2007 12:50:57 AM): im reading the msges nalaladok (6/23/2007 12:51:00 AM): francy_tc (6/23/2007 12:51:07 AM): Yes. Sir sky9ql (6/23/2007 12:51:12 AM): tulog na? myklgarcia (6/23/2007 12:51:13 AM): ser asan n po tayo? shai_camacho (6/23/2007 12:51:14 AM): ok... ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:51:15 AM): aga pa dito sir...just kidding... Yahoo! Messenger (6/23/2007 12:51:20 AM): Pauline Arquelada has left the conference. mdeguzman1017 (6/23/2007 12:51:20 AM): sir 9 to 12 po ba tom? Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:51:23 AM): S EE YOU TOMORROW, anyway, you're only a day away...hehehe myklgarcia (6/23/2007 12:51:37 AM): tom meron sked? ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:51:43 AM): hayzzz...every friday lang ako...tsk tsk tsk james20061220 (6/23/2007 12:51:45 AM): 8 hours na lang shai_camacho (6/23/2007 12:51:45 AM): palma hall 404 9-12 ryt? james20061220 (6/23/2007 12:51:46 AM): hehe myklgarcia (6/23/2007 12:51:53 AM): kala ko po sir wala tayo F2F francy_tc (6/23/2007 12:52:13 AM): Sir confirm lang po. 9-12pm tomorrow Palma Hall $04 francy_tc (6/23/2007 12:52:17 AM): 404 Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:52:18 AM): e meron na eh...courtesy of Jane...Thank you jane myklgarcia (6/23/2007 12:52:28 AM): ok po

mary jane torres (6/23/2007 12:52:29 AM): sir ala pang official announcement sa philo1 mary jane torres (6/23/2007 12:52:49 AM): wala sya upcoming kasi sa pangfic lang yun francy_tc (6/23/2007 12:52:55 AM): Yes sir? Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:52:58 AM): basta andon tayo...kung wala ang iba, nexr time... mary jane torres (6/23/2007 12:53:05 AM): sir sabi sabi updlc 10-12 daw Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:53:11 AM): Puwede humabol ng 10 am... mary jane torres (6/23/2007 12:53:16 AM): pero open naman ang palma hall eh... mdeguzman1017 (6/23/2007 12:53:26 AM): ok sir.thanks francy_tc (6/23/2007 12:53:28 AM): I will be present! ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:53:32 AM): sir...naka-video po ba kayo dun...baka pwd post sa site hehehe.. ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:53:49 AM): para naman parang naka-attend din kami..kung pwd nalaladok (6/23/2007 12:53:50 AM): sky9ql (6/23/2007 12:53:50 AM): hi tek! shai_camacho (6/23/2007 12:54:08 AM): good night guys... see you all 2m Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:54:18 AM): low tek ako eh...kung may magdala ng video... mdeguzman1017 (6/23/2007 12:54:22 AM): see you all tom. francy_tc (6/23/2007 12:54:25 AM): Good night! Good night, classmates! Goodnight Sir! mdeguzman1017 (6/23/2007 12:54:38 AM): goodnight! ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:54:38 AM): thats alright sir..

sirlancelot707 (6/23/2007 12:54:45 AM): Sir sirlancelot707 (6/23/2007 12:54:48 AM): kahit boses nyo lang francy_tc (6/23/2007 12:54:53 AM): To everyone: francy_tc (6/23/2007 12:54:53 AM): Hehe...Wala lang... ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:54:57 AM): yeah..kahit voice record lang sirlancelot707 (6/23/2007 12:54:59 AM): matutuwa na ako d2 sa Singapore mary jane torres (6/23/2007 12:55:03 AM): classmates paki kalat na lang yung f2f sa iba nyo kaclose sa ou nalaladok (6/23/2007 12:55:03 AM): francy_tc (6/23/2007 12:55:07 AM): Wala kayo dun bukas sir? Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:55:12 AM): GOOD NIGHT...SAVE NYO CHAT... sirlancelot707 (6/23/2007 12:55:14 AM): matutuwa na si Noridel ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:55:19 AM): ako din bro anthony..madinig man lang natin sila nalaladok (6/23/2007 12:55:23 AM): copy sir, srmaristela (6/23/2007 12:55:24 AM): night sir... Yahoo! Messenger (6/23/2007 12:55:29 AM): mdeguzman1017 has left the conference. Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:55:30 AM): sana may magdalka ng mp3 recorder...sino volunteer? mary jane torres (6/23/2007 12:55:34 AM): goodnight sa lahat...byebye Yahoo! Messenger (6/23/2007 12:55:40 AM): jay_licauco has left the conference. Yahoo! Messenger (6/23/2007 12:55:44 AM): srmaristela has left the conference.

ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:55:46 AM): hmmmmn..anthony...malapti ka..padala ka na nalaladok (6/23/2007 12:55:48 AM): sirlancelot707 (6/23/2007 12:55:53 AM): francy ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:55:53 AM): try natin sir... sirlancelot707 (6/23/2007 12:55:58 AM): volunteer francy_tc (6/23/2007 12:56:01 AM): Oo nga...Singapore... Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:56:12 AM): nasa singapore ka eh... michcabana (6/23/2007 12:56:20 AM): class tom 9-12 404 palma UPD pls confirm? ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:56:26 AM): yehey...papadala si bro anthony.. sky9ql (6/23/2007 12:56:27 AM): yes yes francy_tc (6/23/2007 12:56:30 AM): shai_camacho (6/23/2007 12:56:33 AM): hahaha! samahan mo nang chocolates! sirlancelot707 (6/23/2007 12:56:38 AM): wahahha sirlancelot707 (6/23/2007 12:56:40 AM): naku po sky9ql (6/23/2007 12:56:42 AM): 9-12 ph404 UPD ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:56:42 AM): sir post mo na address mo..hahaha sirlancelot707 (6/23/2007 12:56:51 AM): loko ka noridel ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:57:00 AM): ahehehe... sirlancelot707 (6/23/2007 12:57:01 AM): cge padala mo sa akin] Yahoo! Messenger (6/23/2007 12:57:04 AM): shai_camacho has left the conference. francy_tc (6/23/2007 12:57:10 AM): Heeey, Tony! Wala nga akong mp# eh!

sirlancelot707 (6/23/2007 12:57:11 AM): ako mg shship sa pinas francy_tc (6/23/2007 12:57:11 AM): Chocolates!!!! sirlancelot707 (6/23/2007 12:57:11 AM): hehehe] ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:57:17 AM): malayo... francy_tc (6/23/2007 12:57:27 AM): Lapit lang yun! Martin Hilario Mapolon (6/23/2007 12:57:31 AM): 88 Corporate Center ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:57:35 AM): yaan mo sir..pag nakauwi ako...next year... sirlancelot707 (6/23/2007 12:57:37 AM): Sir, router lang ang maibibigay ko sirlancelot707 (6/23/2007 12:57:44 AM): pag uwi ko ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:57:47 AM): 88 corporate center... ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:57:51 AM): copy... francy_tc (6/23/2007 12:57:54 AM): Chocolates....chocolates...hehe, joke. francy_tc (6/23/2007 12:57:55 AM): MP3 na lang. myklgarcia (6/23/2007 12:58:03 AM): cisco b yun? francy_tc (6/23/2007 12:58:08 AM): Goodbye na everyone! See you tomorrow! sirlancelot707 (6/23/2007 12:58:11 AM): D-link ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:58:17 AM): bye francy francy_tc (6/23/2007 12:58:30 AM): Yahoo! Messenger (6/23/2007 12:58:49 AM): Ma. Socorro Ates has left the conference. Yahoo! Messenger (6/23/2007 12:58:56 AM): sirlancelot707 has left the conference. sky9ql (6/23/2007 12:59:00 AM): dlink ..

Yahoo! Messenger (6/23/2007 12:59:01 AM): Martin Hilario Mapolon has left the conference. sky9ql (6/23/2007 12:59:01 AM): ^^ ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:59:11 AM): tayo na lang... Yahoo! Messenger (6/23/2007 12:59:22 AM): michcabana has left the conference . ofw_in_upou (6/23/2007 12:59:24 AM): ano ba id ni bro arman Yahoo! Messenger (6/23/2007 12:59:25 AM): mary jane torres has left the conference.