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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 16:47:00 +0300 From: Mary Subject: Re: asio on 1/11/01 2:56 PM, Heinrich H. Vogel at [email protected] wrote: > James informed me lately that there is a chance , that he might > re-introduce the direct digidesign hardware support there was in > earlier ( pre ASIO ) SC versions .

That would be great. I work in a ProTools environment and it isn't practical to change the hardware, nor do I want to. I use it with SoundManager, or use the older versions. I'd love to be able to use it directly with 3.0. Mary Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 00:55:28 +0300 From: eric_hard_jams Subject: Re: asio shit a girl on the sc list!!!! lets rape her... > Mary > > > Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 17:06:53 +0300 From: Mary Subject: Re: asio What time warp band are you leaving in? polarization?

Seriously, why create

BTW, I'm a married mother of three teenagers. Mary Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 02:21:55 +0300 From: "Heinrich H. Vogel" Subject: Re: asio eric_hard_jams wrote: > > > > > >

shit a girl on the sc list!!!! lets rape her... > Mary > > >

i strongly advise you to reinstall a brandnew system after having completely erased any of your data , because your computer is actually sending out messages that offend my late night peace .

sorry hairi Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 01:25:27 +0300 From: eric_hard_jams Subject: Re: asio > BTW, I'm a married mother of three teenagers. > that makes it better! > Mary > > Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 12:53:33 +0300 From: Katharine Neil Subject: RE: asio shit, an offensive 14 yr old boy on the sc list!!! let's set fire to his genitals... I wouldn't wear that sense of humour out in public, boy. Some mailing list advice for you: When it's off the topic of audio synthesis, write [OT] in the subject line. When it's revolting, offensive sexist or racist 'humour', hit the 'delete' button in your mail client, then go away and have a think about it. shit a girl on the sc list!!!! lets rape her... > Mary > > > Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 22:07:26 +0300 From: "Thomas Miley" Subject: Re: asio I hope so also, because the latencies or inefficiencies using an AMIII card at 2.10 make it almost worthless (i.e. audio glitches at only ~ 20% cpu) =tm= - ----- From: Mary Original Message ----Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 4:47 PM Subject: Re: asio > > > > > >

on 1/11/01 2:56 PM, Heinrich H. Vogel at [email protected] wrote: > James informed me lately that there is a chance , that he might > re-introduce the direct digidesign hardware support there was in > earlier ( pre ASIO ) SC versions .

> > > > > > > > > >

That would be great. I work in a ProTools environment and it isn't practical to change the hardware, nor do I want to. I use it with SoundManager, or use the older versions. I'd love to be able to use it directly with 3.0. Mary

Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 22:09:45 +0300 From: "Thomas Miley" Subject: Re: asio eric, you are an idiot... - ----- From: eric_hard_jams Original Message ----Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 5:25 PM Subject: Re: asio > > > > > > > > >

> BTW, I'm a married mother of three teenagers. > that makes it better! > Mary > >

Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 10:13:42 +0300 From: "Scott Wilson" Subject: Re: asio - ----- From: "eric_hard_jams" Original Message ----Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 1:55 AM Subject: Re: asio > shit a girl on the sc list!!!! > lets rape her... > > Mary Hey eric_flaccid_jams! Would you print out this crap and mail it to each of us in a letter? Would you say it when speaking to a large number of people, many of whom you don't know, in a public place? No? Then why are you posting it to an email list? I recommend waiting 24 hours before posting any emails. This will give you time to consider what you're saying in a public forum. By the sounds of it you might try this in your private conversation as well... Scott

Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 08:39:00 +0300 From: "Robert S. Newcomb" Subject: Re: asio I reported the same problem, perhaps a week before Paul did, but I did not install ASIO drivers. This must be something very simple, yes? I have been able to, contrary to SC's display info, at least have SC2 use AMIII for output, but have yet to get it to see the card for input. This situation occurs under OS9.0.4 on a Mac G4/Dual 450 AND a 7300/200. On an 8500/132 under OS8.1 I had no problems. Is OS9 the problem? On Thu, 11 Jan 2001, Paul Lansky wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Date: Thu Jan 11 13:58:53 2001 From: Paul Lansky Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: asio Hi A few weeks ago a queried the group about why I was having trouble getting SC to recognize digidesign hardware after I had loaded the proper driver in the ASIO folder. Well, I tried everything that you all suggested.

Thanks!

But, sadly, still no go. My latest diagnosis is that the driver is not for the hardware we have, which is the Pro 24. Does anyone have any insights here? thanks paul lansky

Robert S. Newcomb Director of Information Technology, School of Music http://www.umich.edu/~rnewcomb/ Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 14:06:28 +0300 From: Katharine Norman Subject: Re: asio >shit a girl on the sc list!!!! >lets rape her... > Eric - you lack punctuation. And a brain. - -***** Dr Katharine Norman Director, Electronic Music Studios Goldsmiths College, University of London

London SE14 6NW (0)20 7919 7640 (music dept office) fax (0)20 7919 7644 email: [email protected] http://www.novamara.demon.co.uk/ http://musicinfo.gold.ac.uk/music/staff/norman.html would you like to join the EMS mailing list? email [email protected] ***** Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 10:11:15 +0300 From: Andrei Subject: how to subscribe ? I forget, how does one subscribe/unsubscribe to/from this list ? Andrei Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 17:08:11 +0300 From: Arie van Schutterhoef Subject: Re: asio >James informed me lately that there is a chance , that he might >re-introduce the direct digidesign hardware support there was in >earlier ( pre ASIO ) SC versions . - -It would be nice if James re-installed all the drivers he had previously written himself for the Korg 1212, Motu 2048 end Sonorus I/O. And make it an option to use his drivers for these cards or asio. AvS . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .................................................................. ^ Arie van Schutterhoef | [email protected] ^_�����������������������__""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" ` |Schreck Ensemble http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/ ` |# -laboratory for live electro-acoustic music- # ` |Tel: 00-31-71-5612287 Fax: 00-31-70-3859268

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On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, eric_hard_jams wrote: > > > > > > > >

shit a girl on the sc list!!!! lets rape her... > Mary > > >

Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 17:48:06 +0300 From: NiteHiss Subject: just try to ignore eric... it seems there's a "bug" on the list. after receiving a few obnoxious messages from eric_hard(?)_jams (enough is enough), i managed to fix the problem by simply adding a new rule to my copy of outlook express: if [from]-[contains]-[eric_hard_jams]-[move message]-[deleted items] it's painless and works fine. [strongly suggested to people who don't like stupidity and think the best cure against it is actually...IGNORING it!!!]. first and LAST message on this particular subject. - --<space> c+o+m+m+i+t+n+i+t+e+h+i+s+s =========================== e [email protected] :( =========================== Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 01:57:40 +0300 From: "Heinrich H. Vogel" Subject: Re:[ot] asio Katharine Neil wrote: > Some mailing list advice for you: > When it's off the topic of audio synthesis, write [OT] in the subject line. unfortunately this goes to all of us , me first . i quite like this thread , but it shouldn't go under the asio header else the digest gets unreadable . hairi > > > > >

When it's revolting, offensive sexist or racist 'humour', hit the 'delete' button in your mail client, then go away and have a think about it. shit a girl on the sc list!!!! lets rape her...

> > > >

> Mary > > >

Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 01:23:44 +0300 From: "Lindon Parker" Subject: Re: asio >eric_hard_jams <[email protected]> wrote:Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 >00:55:28 +0000 > >shit a girl on the sc list!!!! >lets rape her... > > Mary > > Well done Eric you have managed to make the most stupid remark I have ever seen on this list. You clown, this is not even slightly funny. regards to everyone else, and apologies to Mary. Lindon _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 03:31:55 +0300 From: Matthew Rogalsky Subject: eric Is eric_hard_jams not Richard James, the aphex twin? sad, innit... m Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 05:07:30 +0300 From: christian adam hresko Subject: Re: eric Matthew Rogalsky wrote: > Is eric_hard_jams not Richard James, the aphex twin? > > sad, innit... > > m sounds doubtful. richard james' "humor" seems to be more in the vein of "making things up." (like all the hardware he supposedly built, and the software he's been writing for the past few years...) cheers, christian

Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 14:05:15 +0300 From: andreas?berthling Subject: Re: eric maybe it's his evil-twin.. >Is eric_hard_jams not Richard James, the aphex twin? > >sad, innit... > >m Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 13:19:27 +0300 From: eric_hard_jams Subject: Re: eric > From: andreas?berthling > Reply-To: [email protected] > Date: Sun Jan 14 14:05:15 2001 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: eric > > maybe it's his evil-twin.. > >> Is eric_hard_jams not Richard James, the aphex twin? >> >> sad, innit... >> >> m > im really sad :( almost as sad as you lot Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 14:00:19 +0300 From: NiteHiss Subject: OT: aphex twin... yeah but, as a matter of fact, he's one of the few artists out there (together with autechre, 2 lone swordsmen, skam, and few others) who make techno sound "interestingly not boring"... whether he makes things up or not, the final result is much more relevant, isn't it? as this is just my personal opinion, criticism is more than welcome. thanks christian and eric for the info on the computer music tutorial. - --<space> c+o+m+m+i+t+n+i+t+e+h+i+s+s =========================== e [email protected] :( ===========================

> > > > > > > > >

richard james' "humor" seems to be more in the vein of "making things up." (like all the hardware he supposedly built, and the software he's been writing for the past few years...) cheers, christian

Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 21:15:44 +0300 From: eric_hard_jams Subject: Re: OT:rape-idge Hallaj, World POPClock Projection According to the International Programs Center, U.S. Bureau of the Census, the total population of the World, projected to 1/14/01 at 21:00:13 GMT (1/14/01 at 4:00:13 PM EST) is : 6,122,025,551 World Vital Events Per Time Unit: 2001 (Figures may not add to totals due to rounding) - ------------------------------------------------Natural Time unit Births Deaths increase - ------------------------------------------------Year 131,571,719 55,001,289 76,570,430 Month 10,964,310 4,583,441 6,380,869 Day 360,470 150,688 209,782 Hour 15,020 6,279 8,741 Minute 250 105 146 Second 4.2 1.7 2.4 - ------------------------------------------------eric . Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 23:17:33 +0300 From: andreas?berthling Subject: Re: OT:rape-idge not enough deaths lately? /a Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 13:25:41 +0300 From: Katharine Neil Subject: RE: OT:rape-idge

Does this person seem absolutely unapologetic or what? Like me, I think there must a number of women who need to be on this list for professional/work reasons. If this person were posting on a company mailing list he would probably be sacked. Richard, I don't care if you're really Richard D. James or the reincarnation of Liberace. Your anonymity in this forum doesn't give you license to act like an arsehole and get away with it. You could be some sick pervert for all we know - after all, you seem to be enjoying this negative attention, rather than being at all sorry about it. So either apologise to Mary and the rest of the list, or go away. At least some indication that women can feel comfortable remaining on this list would be nice. Another thing that irritates me is that I have to waste my time and everyone else's stating the obvious. BTW: If you're advocating population control (below), don't expect us to miss the irony in that. - -----From: eric_hard_jams [mailto:[email protected]] Original Message----Sent: Monday, 15 January 2001 8:16 AM Subject: Re: OT:rape-idge Hallaj, World POPClock Projection According to the International Programs Center, U.S. Bureau of the Census, the total population of the World, projected to 1/14/01 at 21:00:13 GMT (1/14/01 at 4:00:13 PM EST) is : 6,122,025,551 World Vital Events Per Time Unit: 2001 (Figures may not add to totals due to rounding) - ------------------------------------------------Natural Time unit Births Deaths increase - ------------------------------------------------Year 131,571,719 55,001,289 76,570,430 Month 10,964,310 4,583,441 6,380,869 Day 360,470 150,688 209,782 Hour 15,020 6,279 8,741 Minute 250 105 146 Second 4.2 1.7 2.4 - ------------------------------------------------eric .

Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 22:20:23 +0300 From: Gary Lee Nelson Subject: RE: OT:rape-idge I hope I speak for nearly all of the men on this list when I say that I was shcked and offended by that rape posting. I agree that an apology is in order. As far as I am concerned there is no question that women are welcome and, in fact needed here and in every discussion having to do with music and the arts. Some years ago I was asked to write a short comment on young women in music technology for http://music.dartmouth.edu/~wowem/ They were interested in my perspective as a teacher of music technology at the undergraduate level over three decades. Here is what I wrote... "There are not enough women in the technological arts but the ones there are make contributions far beyond their numbers. My experience with young women in my computer music and new media classes at Oberlin (including my own daughter who is now a professional in the field) tells me that, in the beginning, they suffer from the science and technology fear that our society and education system forces on them. However, while the young man occupies himself with the details of version numbers and hardware/software features, the young woman focuses on expressive application of the tools and on drawing out her music from the depths of her being. At the end of four years she catches or surpasses the him in technical expertise while he may still not have touched the core of the art." Cheers, Gary Gary Lee Nelson TIMARA Department Conservatory of Music Oberlin, OH 44074 office: 440-775-8223 home: 330-922-5958 fax: 440-775-8942 email: [email protected] http://www.timara.oberlin.edu/GaryLeeNelson Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 09:43:49 +0300 From: Chad Kirby Subject: [OT] Don't feed the trolls On Mon, 15 Jan 2001 at 13:25, Katharine Neil wrote:

> Does this person seem absolutely unapologetic or what? Yes, he seems absolutely unapologetic: he is a troll who exists on this list only to attract attention and reduce the S/N ratio. The best type of public forum is one whose members all share a common topic of interest and are polite and courteous and stick to relevant threads. The SC list has been pretty good about this for awhile (with only occasional exceptions). But as the number of subscribers increases, the trolls invariably move in and they have to be dealt with somehow. There are a couple of ways to deal with trolls in a useful community like the SC list. In the most extreme case, we could decide to moderate the list, which means that every post has to be read and approved by some person or persons who will decide which posts to pass on to the list subscribers. Moderated forums don't tend to have troll problems, but they have a higher latency than unmoderated lists (if there's only one moderator and she's asleep, no posts go thru til she wakes up), and then someone has to come up with rules for what's acceptable and what's not, and it is obviously a lot of work for the moderators. I don't think the SC list needs to be moderated at this point. Another thing to do is draft some rules for behavior on the list, and have the list owner delete users who don't conform. But then we have to stop talking about SC for a day, a week, or a month and talk about what the rules should be. Then the list owner (James) has to become (or delegate some ones to become) the list mom, who's charged with enforcing the code of conduct and throwing miscreants out of the pool. You, the list subscriber, however, can take matters into your own hands. You can add Mr. _jams and others of his ilk to your kill file, or your rules list or your filters. Use your mail program to remove posts from known trolls before you ever see them. Most mail readers have the capability to filter out pests, it's just a matter of figuring out how to use those functions. If you don't know how to do it, ask the guy down the hall who knows that stuff. If we all do this, they will get no response to their deliberately offensive/moronic postings and they will eventually go away (just like your mom always told you they would). You can also complain to the offender's ISP. If any of you still have a copy of Mr. _jams' 'let's rape her' post (with headers intact), you could forward that to [email protected] (his service provider). That post was probably outside btinternet's Acceptable Use Policy for email. Maybe they care, maybe they don't. None of these methods are foolproof, although completely ignoring trolls is usually fairly effective. And the best way to ignore a troll is to filter out his posts before you ever see them. I have added one more name to my kill file, and I suggest that everyone else who found Mr. _jams' post completely out of line do likewise. Chad Kirby // Technical Coordinator for Digital Arts // CARTAH [email protected] // 206.295.3592 ________ A fool's brain digests philosophy into folly, science into superstition, and art into pedantry. Hence University education. George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950)

Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 12:07:10 +0300 From: Mary Subject: Re: [OT] Don't feed the trolls Thank you Chad. I had put this prepsychotic fool on my filter list immediately but hadn't known about how to report him. Agree totally with not feeding him any more negative attention. I forwarded a copy of his email immediately to his internet provider. If you have any more suggestions like that I would be happy to carry them out. Mary Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 15:25:15 +0300 From: eric_hard_jams Subject: Re: [OT] Don't feed the trolls > Thank you Chad. I had put this prepsychotic fool on my filter list > immediately but hadn't known about how to report him. Agree totally with > not feeding him any more negative attention. > I forwarded a copy of his email immediately to his internet provider. If > you have any more suggestions like that I would be happy to carry them out. > > Mary > > oh no!!! btinternet.com have just arrested me for laughing!!! im going to get 10 years in fucking jail because of you . :/ oh well ,its not too bad,apparently you can have laptops in jail ,so I can tell you how im getting on,[once ive changed my post name of course] how old were those teenagers Mary? Proolchard.g.krayhmes Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 16:07:05 +0300 From: eric_hard_jams Subject: Re: asio > Would you print out this crap and mail it to each of us in a letter? umm no. Would > you say it when speaking to a large number of people, many of whom you don't > know, in a public place? No? no,because I said ,shit a female on the 'LIST' so it wouldnt make much sense would it? Then why are you posting it to an email list? > you thought you knew what i was going to say to the last question. > I recommend waiting 24 hours before posting any emails. ok,thanks for the great tip!!

would 23 hours be ok? This will give you > time to consider what you're saying in a public forum. .......23 hours later oh right,thats amazing,I never thought of that. By the sounds of it > you might try this in your private conversation as well... Oh cool,why do you know my friends and what they do/dont like to talk about then? ogwrtgj.j.jiammies > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 11:53:32 +0300 From: Andrei Smarandoiu Subject: Re: [OT] Don't feed the trolls On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, eric_hard_jams wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> Thank you Chad. I had put this prepsychotic fool on my filter list > immediately but hadn't known about how to report him. Agree totally with > not feeding him any more negative attention. > I forwarded a copy of his email immediately to his internet provider. If > you have any more suggestions like that I would be happy to carry them out. > > Mary > > oh no!!! btinternet.com have just arrested me for laughing!!! im going to get 10 years in fucking jail because of you . :/ oh well ,its not too bad,apparently you can have laptops in jail ,so I can tell you how im getting on,[once ive changed my post name of course] how old were those teenagers Mary? Proolchard.g.krayhmes

Come on man, you're 30 years old and still acting like a damn adolescent ! OK, we get it, you're really irreverent. Now get on with it. It was funny in Jockey Slut, not very funny here. Why do you need SuperCollider anyway when you've created your own programming language ? ;-) Nica Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 19:02:12 +0300 From: eric_hard_jams Subject: Re: [OT] Don't feed the trolls >

> Come on man, you're 30 years old and still acting like a damn adolescent ! people like telling each other what to do on this list,must be all the teachers or something:) you love it really I reckon. > It was funny in Jockey Slut,...oh thanks. ooh! bit of name dropping,youre cool arent you? not very funny here. I didnt know that humour was different in magazines and newsgroups,sorry. > Why do you need SuperCollider anyway when you've created your own > programming language ? ;-) >ouch!!!well there is no point in doing that when youve got SC around which I find totally amazing,prefer version 1 though. I did make a synth program for a Sinclair ZX81 once though even though it DIDNT have any sound capabilities and had a 1k memory. I think you/they got it a bit wrong ,nope written over 600+ patches for sc1 though amongst other prgs,I was sorting them out recently,to show/impress farmers manual some stuff. and to try and persuade them to give me an Alberto DE campo patch that i wanted to take apart? !) is it ok Alberto,did they ask you yet? ask James Mc ,he's seen some tasty ones a friend and me have been pissing about with for the last 4 years. theyre even better now James!!! Ive got this one patch for sc1 ,well I call it a patch but it really is more like a complete composition/track writing environment in its 24th revision!,sort of a cross between a tracker/CDP by trev wishart/Koan/very very sorted waveform editor unlike anything else/sample manager/voice synth/LPC stuff and shed loads of other things ,pisses over every other prg out there badly!, hehehe makes things like reason look like a casio sk1. and no I havnt released anything using it ,too much fun playing with it ~~~smile~~~ I often wondered why you dont see more BIG patches for supercollider,I mean for likkle fings that do this and that I prefer MSP or reaktor to quickly bang out stuff but I always thought the point of using a prg like SC was to create your own environments that do multiple things, not just a few. Anyone here done anything like that,apart from ALberto? Pritchard.d.jimjams Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 11:41:24 +0300 From: "Michael P. Whyte" Subject: [OT]SC usage philosophy

> > > > >

I often wondered why you dont see more BIG patches for supercollider,I mean for likkle fings that do this and that I prefer MSP or reaktor to quickly bang out stuff but I always thought the point of using a prg like SC was to create your own environments that do multiple things, not just a few. Anyone here done anything like that,apart from ALberto?

I've found that creating tracks in SC to be very nice, using Pbinds. I have made "patterns" with multiple Pbinds inside a Ppar, or Ptpar. Paying attention to the lengths, you can arrange the Ppars in a Pseq. I have sequencable efx with Pfx, and as many of them as I require. If the cpu load get's too much, I just write a soundfile and use that instead. This latest remix is 800 lines now, but I expect it to become much larger as the pbinds pile up. The only GUI's I use are for waveform editors, but I'd like to be able to implement visual sequence editors and a pfx patcher so I could do all this constructing in realtime, but I don't really care at this point. It's so nice not to be limited in the amount of hardware I own for making a track. SC provides much freedom. I could use another program for soundfile arranging, but no plug-in's even come close to the things I can do with SC, so I just leave it there. -besides, my iBook hates more than 24 tracks of audio -which isn't all THAT bad, but even then you can forget about plug-ins. I am still consistently amazed at how cool SC sounds, but moreso how efficient and solid it is. I could never get MSP to make even the most basic drum pattern from soundfiles without hiccuping. - -m __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 14:54:03 +0300 From: christian adam hresko Subject: Re: [OT] Don't feed the trolls a dancing bears patch? cheers, christian Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 20:33:00 +0300 From: Andy Wilson Subject: Re: [OT] Don't feed the trolls On 16/1/01 7:02 pm, "eric_hard_jams" <[email protected]> opined: > Ive got this one patch for sc1 ,well I call it a patch but it really is more > like a complete composition/track writing environment in its 24th > revision!,sort of a cross between a tracker/CDP by trev wishart/Koan/very > very sorted waveform editor unlike anything else/sample manager/voice > synth/LPC stuff and shed loads of other things ,pisses over every other prg > out there badly!, > hehehe makes things like reason look like a casio sk1. > and no I havnt released anything using it ,too much fun playing with it > ~~~smile~~~

Yeah, I've written something like that too, only mine's several times better. I've been working on it for years - ever since I stopped having to give my tutorials for the minimalists. Mo Tucker is recording new stuff using it, but no one else is allowed to even see it. I just heard that I've even been nominated for a nobel prize for some of the algorithms I had to develop on the way, though the guys in Oslo only know about my work through word of mouth and lists like this. Actually, the hardest bit was producing an independent solution to fermats theorem that was still compatible with my refutation of the private language argument and some of the the techniques I developed for overclocking my BBC Micro to 8 GHz, but luckily I found time out from work to solve it using the money I got selling an installation to Charles Saatchi for his private collection. Do you know, I'm thinking of possibly writing up the experience as a book, but only when I've finished my critique of Heidegger. Still, I should have in the bag by the summer. Who knows, one day I may find time to publish all this stuff. But not now. love and kisses y'all .<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< <0@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@0< .0@@0<.
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 20:53:49 +0300 From: eric_hard_jams Subject: Re: [OT] Don't feed the trolls > a dancing bears patch? > > cheers, > > christian > > umm.. no how about this its the only NON sound patch i've got,apart from a tron game patch I posted here a long time ago, looks pretty, oh its SC 1 aswell of course. let me know what ye think. defaudioout L R; var zss ox oy oz thX thY thZ; init{ guiPort.setPort; changeOR; `startStop.dspStart; } startStop{ 1.dspKill; } start{ } C {arg r g b; ^newColor(r*64000,g*64000,b*64000) } changeOR{ zss=13.getItemValue; thX=9.getItemValue; thY=10.getItemValue; thZ=11.getItemValue; drawGraph }

move3{arg i,x,y,z; r=i.itemRect; l=r.left; t=r.top; w=r.width- 1; h=r.height- 1; c=rot(x,y,0.5,0.5,thX);x=c@0;y=c@1; c=rot(x,z,0.5,0.5,thY);x=c@0;z=c@1; c=rot(y,z,0.5,0.5,thZ);y=c@0;z=c@1; x=x*w; y=y*h; z=z*13.679+zss; idx=1/(z/10+1); x1=l+x; y1=t+h-y; x2=l+(0.5*w); y2=t+h-(0.5*h); x3=(x1*idx)+(x2*(1- idx)); y3=(y1*idx)+(y2*(1- idx)); ox=x3; oy=y3; oz=z; } line3{arg i,x,y,z; r=i.itemRect; l=r.left; t=r.top; w=r.width- 1; h=r.height- 1; c=rot(x,y,0.5,0.5,thX);x=c@0;y=c@1; c=rot(x,z,0.5,0.5,thY);x=c@0;z=c@1; c=rot(y,z,0.5,0.5,thZ);y=c@0;z=c@1; x=x*w; y=y*h; z=z*13.679+zss; idx=1/(z/10+1); x1=l+x; y1=t+h-y; x2=l+(0.5*w); y2=t+h-(0.5*h); x3=(x1*idx)+(x2*(1- idx)); y3=(y1*idx)+(y2*(1- idx)); c=clip3(x3,y3,ox,oy,l,t,h,w); if (c@2) then moveTo(c@0,c@1); c=clip3(ox,oy,x3,y3,l,t,h,w); lineTo(c@0,c@1); end.if ox=x3; oy=y3; oz=z; }

rot{arg a1,a2,b1,b2,th2; r=((((b1-a1)**2).realPart)+(((b2-a2)**2).realPart))**0.5; th=atan((b2-a2)/(b1-a1)); if ((b1-a1)>=0) then th=(th)- �; end.if th=th+th2; if r!=0 then x=b1+(r*cos(th)); y=b2+(r*sin(th)); else x=a1; y=a2; end.if ^[x,y]; } clip3{arg x1,y1,x2,y2,l,t,h,w; if ((y1.asInt)!=(y2.asInt)) then y3=y2.clip(t,t+h); x3=((y3-y1)*(x2-x1)/(y2-y1)+x1); else x3=x2.clip(l,l+w); y3=y2; end if ((x1.asInt)!=(x3.asInt)) then x4=x3.clip(l,l+w); y4=(x4-x1)*(y3-y1)/(x3-x1)+y1 else x4=x3; y4=y3.clip(t,t+h); end x4=x4.clip(l,l+w); y4=y4.clip(t,t+h); ^[x4,y4,1]; } drawGraph{ i=1; r=i.itemRect; l=r.left; t=r.top; w=r.width- 1; h=r.height- 1; C(0,0,0).backColor; C(0,1,0).foreColor; r.eraseRect; xm=5.getItemValue; ym=6.getItemValue; zm=7.getItemValue; dp=8.getItemValue; x=0;

x1=(x/xm).sin+1/2; y1=(x+�/ym).sin+1/2; z1=(x/zm).sin+1/2; i.move3(x1,y1,z1); for x=0;x
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 20:56:00 +0300 From: eric_hard_jams Subject: Re: [OT] Don't feed the trolls I've finished my critique of > Heidegger. Still, I should have in the bag by the summer. Who knows, > one day I may find time to publish all this stuff. But not now. > > love and kisses y'all > so i take it you dont want me to email the patch to you then? eric !) Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 22:34:17 +0300 From: "Heinrich H. Vogel" Subject: Re: [OT] Don't feed the trolls Andy Wilson wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

On 16/1/01 7:02 pm, "eric_hard_jams" <[email protected]> opined: > Ive got this one patch for sc1 ,well I call it a patch but it really is more > like a complete composition/track writing environment in its 24th > revision!,sort of a cross between a tracker/CDP by trev wishart/Koan/very > very sorted waveform editor unlike anything else/sample manager/voice > synth/LPC stuff and shed loads of other things ,pisses over every other prg > out there badly!, > hehehe makes things like reason look like a casio sk1. > and no I havnt released anything using it ,too much fun playing with it > ~~~smile~~~ Yeah, I've written something like that too, only mine's several times better. I've been working on it for years - ever since I stopped having to give my tutorials for the minimalists. Mo Tucker is recording new stuff using it, but no one else is allowed to even see it. I just heard that I've even been nominated for a nobel prize for some of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

the algorithms I had to develop on the way, though the guys in Oslo only know about my work through word of mouth and lists like this. Actually, the hardest bit was producing an independent solution to fermats theorem that was still compatible with my refutation of the private language argument and some of the the techniques I developed for overclocking my BBC Micro to 8 GHz, but luckily I found time out from work to solve it using the money I got selling an installation to Charles Saatchi for his private collection. Do you know, I'm thinking of possibly writing up the experience as a book, but only when I've finished my critique of Heidegger. Still, I should have in the bag by the summer. Who knows, one day I may find time to publish all this stuff. But not now. love and kisses y'all .<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< <0@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@0< .0@@0<.
same for me hairi Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 23:03:14 +0300 From: "Heinrich H. Vogel"

Subject: huge projects eric_hard_jams wrote: > > > > > > > >

Ive got this one patch for sc1 ,well I call it a patch but it really is more like a complete composition/track writing environment in its 24th revision!,sort of a cross between a tracker/CDP by trev wishart/Koan/very very sorted waveform editor unlike anything else/sample manager/voice synth/LPC stuff and shed loads of other things ,pisses over every other prg out there badly!, hehehe makes things like reason look like a casio sk1.

never looked any different to me . > and no I havnt released anything using it ,too much fun playing with it > ~~~smile~~~ if it exists , and if you know where to get sc1 from , i be glad to hear and see more about what you describe above . i am particularly interested in the conceptual aspects .

> I often wondered why you dont see more BIG patches for supercollider, i did a patchable modular do it all thing i call the SWARK , which is both amazing and ridiculous . it's sc 2 , 80 or so modules , version 26 today and never stays still , badly documented and probably generally rather hard to understand , but works fine for me . the code is my first attemt and clearly shows that i didn't bother to read all the documentation or had a clue about oop at all . i am now preparing to do better in SC3 . > I mean > for likkle fings that do this and that > I prefer MSP or reaktor to quickly > bang out stuff but i never . i rather be silent . > > > > >

I always thought the point of using a prg like SC was to create your own environments that do multiple things, not just a few. Anyone here done anything like that,apart from ALberto? Pritchard.d.jimjams

whoever is interested in the SWARK26 library as it is with no guarantee and lousy docu can send his email to me . it's about 0.5 mega

i am sure not to be the only one to have spent thought over music generation enviiroonments or may ever one may call more flexible applications in which the process of configuration and setting is the actual composition to a large extent . i wonder if theres anybody out there who wants to do some joint wondering about more general issues such as scaling , mathematical data and musical data , patching strategies , interface feel or politics ..... Hairi Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 14:10:32 +0300 From: Katharine Neil Subject: RE: [OT] Don't feed the trolls Woohoo! ....I'm impressed, Richard. Gosh I feel so privileged and in awe - I didn't realise that we were humbled by the presence of ................. yes that's right - not simply an idiot, but an actual idiot savant! And I have to say I much prefer the style of humour you were getting into at the end there - hmmmm yeah...you could really go somewhere with that. You've got to admire this guy's talent for jerking off in public...;) PS: My old mum always told me that the best way to get a bully off your patch was to get some mates together and give him a good kicking...but maybe I'm old-fashioned? - -----From: eric_hard_jams [mailto:[email protected]] Original Message----Sent: Wednesday, 17 January 2001 6:02 AM Subject: Re: [OT] Don't feed the trolls

> > Come on man, you're 30 years old and still acting like a damn adolescent ! people like telling each other what to do on this list,must be all the teachers or something:) you love it really I reckon. > It was funny in Jockey Slut,...oh thanks. ooh! bit of name dropping,youre cool arent you? not very funny here. I didnt know that humour was different in magazines and newsgroups,sorry. > Why do you need SuperCollider anyway when you've created your own > programming language ? ;-)

>ouch!!!well there is no point in doing that when youve got SC around which I find totally amazing,prefer version 1 though. I did make a synth program for a Sinclair ZX81 once though even though it DIDNT have any sound capabilities and had a 1k memory. I think you/they got it a bit wrong ,nope written over 600+ patches for sc1 though amongst other prgs,I was sorting them out recently,to show/impress farmers manual some stuff. and to try and persuade them to give me an Alberto DE campo patch that i wanted to take apart? !) is it ok Alberto,did they ask you yet? ask James Mc ,he's seen some tasty ones a friend and me have been pissing about with for the last 4 years. theyre even better now James!!! Ive got this one patch for sc1 ,well I call it a patch but it really is more like a complete composition/track writing environment in its 24th revision!,sort of a cross between a tracker/CDP by trev wishart/Koan/very very sorted waveform editor unlike anything else/sample manager/voice synth/LPC stuff and shed loads of other things ,pisses over every other prg out there badly!, hehehe makes things like reason look like a casio sk1. and no I havnt released anything using it ,too much fun playing with it ~~~smile~~~ I often wondered why you dont see more BIG patches for supercollider,I mean for likkle fings that do this and that I prefer MSP or reaktor to quickly bang out stuff but I always thought the point of using a prg like SC was to create your own environments that do multiple things, not just a few. Anyone here done anything like that,apart from ALberto? Pritchard.d.jimjams Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 20:45:33 +0300 From: Mary Subject: Re: [OT] Don't feed the trolls not simply an idiot, but an actual idiot savant! Probably he is on the Asperger Autism spectrum. I don't sense that he is very capable of learning by reflection which is why I haven't said much. In truth we have all probably learned much more about Eric's vulnerabilities and insecurities around his creativity than he is learning from us. Mary Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 00:58:45 +0300 From: christian adam hresko Subject: Re: [OT] Don't feed the trolls wow, i didn't realize this until just now.

i'm a bit slow...

eric hard jams remove the e richard jams insert the e richard james hehe... whether or not this is actually richard james, that's pretty cool. but maybe i'm easily amused. cheers, christian Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:30:28 +0300 From: Andy Wilson Subject: Re: [OT] Don't feed the trolls On 16/1/01 8:56 pm, "eric_hard_jams" <[email protected]> opined: > so i take it you dont want me to email the patch to you then? > eric can't wait. we'll swap. ;) { andy wilson << managing director << LShift << www.lshift.net } { www.andyw.com && www.faust-pages.com && www.directorxml.com } Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 11:46:32 +0300 From: "Heinrich H. Vogel" Subject: Re: [OT] Don't feed the trolls Katharine Neil wrote: > PS: My old mum always told me that the best way to get a bully off your > patch was to get some mates together and give him a good kicking...but maybe > I'm old-fashioned? which for me equals out exactly to erics original propositionn , ie : get togheter cowards and have a violent go at some outsider . compliments . now back to ssound things . hairi Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 22:49:48 +0300 From: eric_hard_jams Subject: Re:[ OT ]very low signal to noise ratio . Hallaj,

Just thought that you ought to know ,in Cornwall, UK where Im from ,rapeseed is grown in huge abundance all over the place, its one of the most valuable resources now after the Tin mines all shut down some years ago. It is also customary in Cornwall like many other weird things when you havnt seen a girl for a long time for men [originally fishermen when they came back from long trips] to smother rape [pretty little yellow flowers!]all over a Female ,not many people do it obviously but you can see men/young boys doing just that in a place called Helston on 'flora day' which is held every year there and has loads of traditional dancing/music etc. eric, [not aphex twin im afraid [*blush*],if only! he used to live not far away from me though, just a fan hence the email address] Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 02:28:33 +0300 From: NiteHiss Subject: Re: [ OT ]very low signal to noise ratio . on 17/1/01 10:49 pm, eric_hard_jams at [email protected] apparently typed: > ,not many people do it obviously but you can see men/young > boys doing just that in a place called Helston on 'flora day' which is held > every year there and has loads of traditional dancing/music etc. yeah, i know about that... i still remember your mom. she was great on that day!!! good nite son. you know, boy, i happen to be famous now, boy. please, boy, do not cry now. dad will be back one day. mom's gone now, boy. however, i still remember her last words... - "eric suffers from assholism, you know. that's very obvious indeed my love (yes, your mom loved me, boy). in any case, my man, please make sure he won't join the sc-list...he'll never be ready for the real world... " now, boy, i feel like my fame made me a very bad father. please, boy, never forget that magic day in helston, on flora day. if you happen to know latin (oops...), you'll understand that those flowers were put there to celebrate your birth, boy. finally, boy, do not worry about your impotence. that's normal on a flora day...(if only your mom could explain you...). being _hard doesn't make it any harder, you know. now, boy, try not to forget your mom's words...she was very wise indeed. not a saint though...(i'm a 26 centimetres, boy.). do you really want to become the most insignificant clown on this list. she won't be happy, boy. - --<space> c+o+m+m+i+t+n+i+t+e+h+i+s+s =========================== e [email protected]

:( =========================== Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 02:42:55 +0300 From: eric_hard_jams Subject: Re: [ OT ]boredom > do you really want to become the most insignificant clown on this list. she > won't be happy, boy. no,you just did, that really was awful. Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 20:50:00 +0300 From: James McCartney Subject: Re: [ OT ]very low signal to noise ratio . NiteHiss at [email protected] wrote: > yeah, i know about that... NiteHiss at [email protected] ONCE wrote: > [strongly suggested to people who don't like > stupidity and think the best cure against it is actually...IGNORING it!!!]. > > first and LAST message on this particular subject. Guess you couldn't help yourself.. Now everyone please get past this episode and get back on topic. I know you can do it. Yes it was stupid. It's over. - --- james mccartney [email protected] SuperCollider - a real time synthesis programming language for the PowerMac. Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 03:09:22 +0300 From: NiteHiss Subject: Re: [ OT ]boredom > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. - --MS_Mac_OE_3062632163_518149_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit on 18/1/01 2:42 am, eric_hard_jams at [email protected] apparently typed: > >> do you really want to become the most insignificant clown on this list. she >> won't be happy, boy. > > no,you just did, that really was awful. >

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- --MS_Mac_OE_3062632163_518149_MIME_Part-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 03:12:50 +0300 From: NiteHiss Subject: Re: [ OT ]very low signal to noise ratio . on 18/1/01 2:50 am, James McCartney at [email protected] apparently typed: > NiteHiss at [email protected] wrote: > >> yeah, i know about that... > > NiteHiss at [email protected] ONCE wrote: > >> [strongly suggested to people who don't like >> stupidity and think the best cure against it is actually...IGNORING it!!!]. >> >> first and LAST message on this particular subject. > > Guess you couldn't help yourself.. > > Now everyone please get past this episode and get back on topic. I know you > can do it. Yes it was stupid. It's over. > > --- james mccartney [email protected] > SuperCollider - a real time synthesis programming language for the PowerMac. > > > ok boss. i'm really sorry. back to normal now. much better. my apologies. - --<space> c+o+m+m+i+t+n+i+t+e+h+i+s+s =========================== e [email protected] :( =========================== Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 03:18:14 +0300 From: eric_hard_jams Subject: Re: [ OT ]very low signal to noise ratio . > ok boss. i'm really sorry. back to normal now. much better.

> my apologies. > ass licker. Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 22:20:06 +0300 From: James McCartney Subject: Re: [ OT ]very low signal to noise ratio . on 1/17/01 9:18 PM, eric_hard_jams at [email protected] wrote: > >> ok boss. i'm really sorry. back to normal now. much better. >> my apologies. >> > ass licker. > shut the F up already, richard. - --- james mccartney [email protected] SuperCollider - a real time synthesis programming language for the PowerMac. Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 22:33:38 +0300 From: eric_hard_jams Subject: Re: [ OT ]taylor dayne remix > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. - --MS_Mac_OE_3062702019_1529412_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit > shut the F up already, richard. > ooh touchy!thought you were ignoring me:) did you dig out sc1 and try that graphics patch james ,I reckon you would get into it. - --MS_Mac_OE_3062702019_1529412_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable <TITLE>Re: [ OT ]taylor dayne remix
> shut the F up already, richard.
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ooh touchy!thought you were ignoring me:)

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,I reckon you would get into it.
- --MS_Mac_OE_3062702019_1529412_MIME_Part-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 17:43:47 +0300 From: christian adam hresko Subject: Re: [ OT ]taylor dayne remix - --------------20EDAE70D7010012B780E568 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-maccreator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit eric_hard_jams wrote: > > > > > > >

> shut the F up already, richard. > ooh touchy!thought you were ignoring me:) did you dig out sc1 and try that graphics patch james ,I reckon you would get into it.

is sc1 available anywhere? as bizarre as this may sound, i actually like the older syntax. (at least judging from the patch richard posted...) cheers, christian - --------------20EDAE70D7010012B780E568 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit  
eric_hard_jams wrote:

 
> shut the F up already, richard.
>
ooh touchy!thought you were ignoring me:)

did you dig out sc1 and try that graphics patch james ,I reckon you would get into it.

is sc1 available anywhere?

as bizarre as this may sound, i actually like the older syntax. (at least judging from the patch richard posted...)

cheers,

christian - --------------20EDAE70D7010012B780E568--

Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 23:30:22 +0300 From: eric_hard_jams Subject: Re: [ OT ]taylor dayne remix > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. - --MS_Mac_OE_3062705423_1734136_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit as bizarre as this may sound, i actually like the older syntax. (at least judging from the patch richard posted...) why is it bizarre? just cuz its older dont mean it aint better. it is indeed slower but that usually means that you end up being more imaginative wiv yer code'n'stuff. eg ,I used to run out of variable space with huge patches and then started writing/reading data to sound files to free up memory also incorporating those data files as instruments in their own right whose sound changed as the data witihin them changed,quite decent concept i reckon. oh and james you shut the F up eric - --MS_Mac_OE_3062705423_1734136_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable <TITLE>Re: [ OT ]taylor dayne remix

as bizarre as this may sound, i actually like the older syntax. (at least j= udging from the patch richard posted...)


why is it bizarre?
just cuz its older dont mean it aint better.
it is indeed slower but that usually means that you end up being more imagi= native wiv yer code'n'stuff.

eg ,I used to run out of variable space with huge patches and then started = writing/reading data to sound files to free up memory also incorporating tho= se data files as instruments in their own right whose sound changed as the d= ata witihin them changed,quite decent concept i reckon.




oh and james you shut the F up


eric

- --MS_Mac_OE_3062705423_1734136_MIME_Part-Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 18:15:51 +0300 From: NiteHiss Subject: OT: alter ego??? according to some mail i've recently received, some of you guys on the list think that eric is me and i am eric...the same person, you know. please, leave psychology to psychologists, will you? you know guys, you must have been watching "fight club" too many times, mustn't you. or was it "lost highway"? excellent movies though... eric's got a much more developed sense of humour as well as a much better english. about my identity: some people call me alex. some other chaps call me niggy stardust (because of nite, you see). however, when i go out clubbing they all call me...xushiana. i was baptized a different name though. however, i'm not catholic at all. you lot have fun now. you deserve it. - --<space> c+o+m+m+i+t+n+i+t+e+h+i+s+s =========================== e [email protected] :( =========================== Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:22:34 +0300 From: Joachim Gossmann Subject: Re: OT: alter ego??? ...it's alright a long as you're not HER Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 15:16:00 +0300 From: [email protected] (Peter Scartahello) Subject: Re: OT: alter ego??? You are a trendy Moron who doesn't deserve to use SuperCollider!!!!!!

Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 21:03:56 +0300 From: eric_hard_jams Subject: Re: OT: alter ego??? > From: [email protected] (Peter Scartahello) > Reply-To: [email protected] > Date: Fri Jan 19 15:16:00 2001 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: OT: alter ego??? > > You are a trendy Moron how dya figure trendy? who doesn't deserve to use SuperCollider!!!!!! > > why is that then? eric Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 16:17:27 +0300 From: [email protected] (Ron Kuivila) Subject: Re: OT Hi all, Could we call a one week moratorium on off topic messages to this list? The OT traffic level is reaching a ridiculous level. RJK PS Or perhaps we should ask James to set up a secondary list with the address [email protected] Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 21:28:53 +0300 From: NiteHiss Subject: Re: OT: alter ego??? on 19/1/01 8:16 pm, Peter Scartahello at [email protected] apparently typed: > You are a trendy Moron who doesn't deserve to use SuperCollider!!!!!! > what are the criteria for deciding who deserves to use a certain piece of software? ...according to some mail i've recently received... as far as i know, you've never sent me any personal mail. why is it you're replying to my message? i don't see the point... finally, i did not want to be aggressive. where does your rage come from? all the best - --<space> c+o+m+m+i+t+n+i+t+e+h+i+s+s ===========================

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