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IRVING.TXT From sumair Thu Feb 2 20:35:30 1995 Received: by planecrash.berkeley.edu (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4.1-DomainOS) id AA02789; Thu, 2 Feb 1995 20:35:08 -0800 Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 20:35:08 -0800 From: Sumair Mahmood <sumair> Message-Id: <[email protected]> To: msu@ocf Subject: David Irving on Friday Status: RO salaam! though this is in no way an msu or isc (officially) sponsored event, you should know that racist/fascist David Irving will be speaking on this Friday at 7:00 PM in 120 Latimer Hall on the topic of "Hitler's Final Solution". the cost for tickets is $3. as you may know, Irving was twice cancelled at the last minute by UC administration (through Zionist influence) on the university itself, and when he spoke off campus last semester, the ensuing violent demonstration made CNN Headline News (by the way, word is that they're coming this time). there will be hired security, so don't worry TOO much. why Irving? because he may be able to teach us a little something about German World War II history (ie, the Holocaust) about which the facts are in dispute. and knowlege is permissible to be gained from Muslims, NonMuslims, good guys and bad guys. that's all. here the OTHER side of the story. by the way, he is only one of the more famous 'controversial historians' who have been speaking about this issue at college universities all over the country. this event is being sponsored only by the Berkeley Free Speech Coalition From [email protected] Sat Feb 4 22:57:21 1995 Received: from uclink2.Berkeley.EDU by plague.berkeley.edu (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4.1-DomainOS) id AA07576; Sat, 4 Feb 1995 22:56:16 -0800 Received: from maelstrom-ether.Berkeley.EDU by uclink2.berkeley.edu (8.6.8/1.33(web)-OV2) id WAA00613; Sat, 4 Feb 1995 22:52:00 -0800 Date: Sat, 4 Feb 1995 22:52:00 -0800 From: [email protected] Message-Id: <[email protected]> Apparently-To: msu@ocf Status: RO With the David Irving thing this weekend, don't you think that or supporting him was VERY rascist. That is like denying the massacres in Bosnia. It is true we cannot dwell on the holocaust, nor we cannot deny it. You gotta face it, the MSU is now a racist organization filled with right-winged fanatics. WE have to learn to live along with Jews and other people, not sling racist remarks at them or say that we are going to kill them in the future. I am not a proud member of the MSU now, and you know who you homophobes are, both male and female. From [email protected] Sat Feb 4 23:52:50 1995 Received: from uclink2.Berkeley.EDU by plague.berkeley.edu (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4.1-DomainOS) id AA08273; Sat, 4 Feb 1995 23:50:10 -0800 Received: from maelstrom-ether.Berkeley.EDU by uclink2.berkeley.edu (8.6.8/1.33(web)-OV2) id XAA08157; Sat, 4 Feb 1995 23:48:28 -0800 Date: Sat, 4 Feb 1995 23:48:28 -0800 From: [email protected] Message-Id: <[email protected]> Page 1

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IN my last letter I mean anti-semetic (NOT HOMOPHOBE). From [email protected] Sun Feb 5 21:02:22 1995 Received: from uclink2.Berkeley.EDU by plague.berkeley.edu (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4.1-DomainOS) id AA15562; Sun, 5 Feb 1995 21:00:28 -0800 Received: by uclink2.berkeley.edu (8.6.8/1.33(web)-OV2) id VAA05550; Sun, 5 Feb 1995 21:00:27 -0800 Date: Sun, 5 Feb 1995 21:00:26 -0800 (PST) From: Zahir Sajad Janmohamed Subject: re: Anon. writer To: msu@ocf Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: R "Bitter Muslim" if you are out there, this is for you. Salaam Alaikum brother, I just received your letter and had to respond. First, my views are my own, and in any way do not represent the MSU MSA or ISC. So don't generalize as you did before. We didn't support David Irving as a group. If you read Sumair's message last week, it said clearly that the talk had no (again no) affiliation with the MSU. Yes the organizers happened to be Muslims. Are you so afraid of free speach? Are you afraid to seek knowledge? Last night I heard Aftab speak to us on Irving. He does not deny the holocaust, but rather believes the numbers have been exagerated. We all were pratically forced to not question the events as we grew up. Now here comes a man who actually took the time to research the issue and you promptly label him racist? And we too are racist? Please, let's be rational. The fact is, the formation of the state of Israel was in large part feasible because of the holocaust. That is, the Jews lobbyed for special priviledges because of the persecution they faced in the concentration camps. If it can be proved that the numbers in the holocaust are a myth, then that takes the power away from the Israelis and their claim to special treatment. But do not read into this letter my views. I know too little for me to fromulate an educated opinion. Label me a racist, a facist, anti-semetic, whatever. I know I am none of these. And next time you post a message, have the courage to use your name. Your brother in Islam, Zahir On Sat, 4 Feb 1995 [email protected] wrote: > With the David Irving thing this weekend, don't you think that or supporting him was VERY rascist. That is like denying the massacres in Bosnia. It is true we cannot dwell on the holocaust, nor we cannot deny it. You gotta face it, the MSU is now a racist organization filled with right-winged fanatics. WE have to learn to live along with Jews and other people, not sling racist remarks at them or say that we are going to kill them in the future. I am not a proud member of the MSU now, and you know who you homophobes are, both male and female. > Page 2

IRVING.TXT From sumair Sun Feb 5 23:45:51 1995 Received: by planecrash.berkeley.edu (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4.1-DomainOS) id AA06496; Sun, 5 Feb 1995 23:45:26 -0800 Date: Sun, 5 Feb 1995 23:45:26 -0800 From: Sumair Mahmood <sumair> Message-Id: <[email protected]> To: msu@ocf Status: RO Bitter Muslims Write: > >With the David Irving thing this weekend, don't you think that or supporting him >was VERY rascist. That is like denying the massacres in Bosnia. It is true we >cannot dwell on the holocaust, nor we cannot deny it. You gotta face it, the >MSU is now a racist organization filled with right-winged fanatics. WE have to >learn to live along with Jews and other people, not sling racist remarks at them >or say that we are going to kill them in the future. I am not a proud member of >the MSU now, and you know who you homophobes are, both male and female. > us-Salaamu-'Alaykum ya Kawm al-Muslimeen! May peace be upon you my dear, dear, brothers and sisters in Islam! I bear witness that, to the best of my ability, I accept no authority in my life other than that of Allah, and that I derive my knowlege of Allah and his just commandments through his LAST servant and messenger Muhammad ibn 'Abdullah--may the peace and blessings of almighty Allah be with him and all the previous messengers. Ameen! Before we even plunge into a rebuttal, let us build some ground work based upon somethings which all Muslims should be able to agree upon. (Please forgive me if I seem to off on a tangent. As far as I'm concerned, it's all relevant material.) (1) Fighting is prescribed upon you, and you dislike it. But it is possible that you dislike a thing which is bad for you and that you love a things which is [in fact] bad for you. But Allah knows and you do not know. [2:216] [Commentary: Man is finite in knowlege, but Allah is infinite in knowledge. Therefore, some things which you and I deem appropriate may in fact be inappropriate. In this David Irving case, I believe the opposite may be true.] (2) Let those fight in the cause of Allah who sell the life of life for the hereafter. To him who fights in the cause of Allah-whether he is slain or gets victory--soon We shall give him a reward of great value. And why should you not fight in the cause of Allah and those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed): men, women, and children whose cry is, "O our lord! Rescue us from this town, whose people are oppressors, and raise for us from Yourself one who will protect (us), and raise for us from Yourself one who will help (us)!" Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject faith fight in the cause of evil: so fight against the friends of Satan [C: who are in fact HUMAN BEINGS], for feeble indeed is the cunning of Satan. [4:74-76] (3) Fight, in the cause of Allah, those who fight you but do not transgress limits, for Allah does not love transgressors. [But] Slay them wherever you catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out: because [their] persecution is worse Page 3

IRVING.TXT than [your] slaughter [of them]...Such is the compensation for those who reject faith. But if they cease, Allah is Often Forgiving and Most Merciful. And fight them on until there is no more persecution. [2:190-193] (4) Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar: Allah's Apostle said, "You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stomes. The stomes will (betray them) saying, 'O 'Abdullah (i.e., slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him'". [Sahih al-Bukhari 4.176] (5) Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour [C: Day of Judgement] will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say, 'O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.'" [Sahih al-Bukhari 4.177] (6) Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar: I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "The Jews will fight with you, and you will be given victory over them so that a stone will say, 'O Muslim! There is a Jew behind me. Kill him!'" [Sahih al-Bukhari 4.791] Obviously the most authentic of authentic of authentic Islamic sources indicate (if not explicitly) that one day many of the Jews will be responsible for some amount of oppression, and that therefore it will be incumbent upon you and I to free the world of the Zionist (permit me the ideological leap) plague by killing--for the pleasure of Allah and the oppressed people of the world--those ethno-centric Zionist, Jewish individuals who identify with Israel by proudly identifying themselves as 'Israelis' (which many Jews do not do, by the way). Just ask yourself, 'Are the Jews practicing oppression in the world today?' If you truly believe in Allah, His Holy Scripture, and His Holy Prophet, then you will look forward to doing His bidding. [I was trying to find that ayat that goes something like, "and when you meet them on the battle field it is not you but Allah who throws rocks at and swings at them" but I could not find the referrence and have to quote the ayat 'ad verbatim'. Sorry!] I do not, nor should any true Muslim, want to "just get along and live" with such people. We should tell them of our intentions, thereby striking fear into their hearts [cannot find this referrence, either] and perhaps changing the minds and attitudes of some people among them. In essence, we should not be hypocritical, but encourage them to be God-conscious. At the same time, of course, WE MUST DEAL JUSTLY with those who are taken as prisoners of war--who will eat, drink, etc. what you and I will. And, under the Islamic State you and I will have to lay down OUR lives to protect the lives of Jews (and Christians) who will pay the 'jizya' tax and will not be compelled to join the army or fight our wars (which may African Americans are forced, through economic contraints, to do in this country)...why? because Muslims are not barbarians, but soldiers of the Sublime Being who are concerned with implementing His Law and promulgating justice thereby. All of Allah's commands, we believe, are for the benefit, not oppression of Mankind. *

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IRVING.TXT Does supporting Irving make us all fascists?!!

One of the ironies of the last demonstration against Irving was that (an unruly bunch of) white [pardon the expression] people burst into a multi-cultural audience, accusing them of being Nazis. I still chuckle when I think about it! Ha Ha Ha! But seriously. Can simply LISTENING to some historian make an individual a racist or fascist? I think not. The actual question is, "Should the Muslims support Irving's right to speak, given his racial bias?" Firstly, it should be noted that Irving has never (to the best of my knowlege) in any way advocated or organized anti-colored people machinery. Mind you, he may have his personal opinions --however incorrect they may be--but he has never DEMONSTRATED this bias of his in a public motivation fasion. These are his own personal beliefs. [UC professor Sarrach (spelling?), who seems to share similar beliefs, was not picketed and attacked by mobs of people. HE was invited to debate another campus professor regarding his perverted genetic deficiency theories. No socialist or spartacus members demonstrated against him. Why? (Can you say Z-I-O-N-I-S-T-S ?)] As long as he has something meaningful to contribute to our cause without saying something Islamically controversial, he can be utilized by us as a weapon (someone might want to check the Islamicity of this principle). Question #2:

Are we denying the Holocaust?

No. We're simply trying to remove the ideological foundation beneath the illigitimate state of Israel, by putting the death toll in true perspective. After all, just about as many Muslims died in World War II as did Jews (Source: Prof. Algar). Many other nations and people have been unjustly dealt with on a similar if not greater level. Only the Zionists have been able to sell their misery. There are a great number of African and Native Americans who haven't received a bent nickel for their history of suffering and persecution. The Jewish Holocaust DID occur--and it is a great shame upon humanity that WE let it happen--but Irving has different, independent sources of evidence that the actual numbers were significantly lower than those now repeated. And what's so revolutionary about that? The official Auschwitz death toll has been dropping ever since World War II! (I think it began at ~6 million deaths in Auschwitz, and has now fallen to ~1.4 million.) What's the big deal if Irving contends that the actual figure is actually much lower that even that? *

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I could go on, but I shouldn't waste any more of your time. We do not hate all Jews, but only ethno-centric nationalist Zionists. It is they whom we will slay one day very soon, Insha-Allah. May Allah bring that day during our own life times so that we may do jihad for His pleasure and accrue a great reward with Him. Ameen! I do not condemn you for sending anonymous mail, but I hope that you do feel good about being part of the msu and isc now. After all, the leaders of these organizations have this understanding of Islam (InshaAllah) and you should be proud of this, even if you are having troubles with these concepts yourself. We should all be proud to have strong leadership. May Allah give us all guidance. And may we derive our beliefs not from our own desires (as Allah warns us against repeated in the Holy Q) but from the Word of Allah and through the traditions of our Holy Prophet. Anyone who does not adhere to Quran and Sunna is not a Muslim and will thus understandably feel uncomfortable in the msu. Wal-Hamdu Lillah! SuperMan Page 5

IRVING.TXT (I hope I didn't stray TOO far from the topic!) From [email protected] Mon Feb 6 17:17:42 1995 Received: from uclink2.Berkeley.EDU by plague.berkeley.edu (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4.1-DomainOS) id AA09256; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 16:49:09 -0800 Received: from a01.mednet.medsch.ucla.edu by uclink2.berkeley.edu (8.6.8/1.33(web)-OV2) id QAA28409; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 16:43:26 -0800 Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 16:43:26 -0800 From: [email protected] Message-Id: <[email protected]> Apparently-To: msu@ocf Status: RO Let me first say that I am NOT the original bitter muslim, and the vies expressed herein are expressly my own, whoever I may be.\ I think that the bitter muslim has an excellent point. After all, it is pety and childish to say that "if you don't recognize our holocaust, we won't recognize yours". You cannot deny the facts. We should live in peace with others on this earth, and change the image of islam from one of bombing terrorists and a "I'm OK, you're not OK" attitude, to one of a religion that loves mankind, and goes about its business "I won't bother you, you don't bother me". That is what Islam (form the Arabic for "peace") means. By supporting these people, we ruin our own credibility. From now on, when we wish to be heard, many people may say "well, what do they know, htey deny the holocaust even existed!" We are only hurting ourselves by trying to hurt our brothers in oppression. Assalam Alaikum From [email protected] Tue Feb 7 18:20:45 1995 Received: from uclink.Berkeley.EDU by plague.berkeley.edu (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4.1-DomainOS) id AA09607; Tue, 7 Feb 1995 17:04:47 -0800 Received: by uclink.berkeley.edu (8.6.9/1.33(web)-OV4) id PAA08069; Tue, 7 Feb 1995 15:57:21 -0800 Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 15:50:49 -0800 (PST) From: Farhan Ahmed Syed Subject: re: "bitter muslims" To: msu@ocf In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO Assalamu-alaikum. Bismillahirrahmanarrahim. Recently, there have been a couple of postings from people who have used aliases. The views expressed in these letters are not the point of my letter. I am more worried about the precedent this is setting. It is a sad day when a person or persons has to rely on an alias to post a message to his or her fellow brothers and sisters. On this campus, we have so many other problems to deal with, and we can't even depend on ourselves now. Why must we be intimidated by each other? When we first started this net, i wrote a letter encouraging people to voice their questions and concerns. If they did not wish to write to the net, they could voice them to me personally. When have i intentionally hurt someone when they came to me for advice or with concerns? I would encourage the people who posted these messages to tell someone, not necessarily me, so that perhaps we can understand what you would suggest, rather than to see your cloaked personal criticisms of the entire MSU. Page 6

IRVING.TXT Jazakhallahu-khair, Farhan By the system which ones people who

the way, we may stop the "forwarding" system and go back to where you would send it to the account, and we would choose to send. I don't think anyone wants that, including the run the account.

Salaams From [email protected] Tue Feb 7 18:20:44 1995 Received: from uclink.Berkeley.EDU by plague.berkeley.edu (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4.1-DomainOS) id AA09795; Tue, 7 Feb 1995 17:13:41 -0800 Received: from maelstrom-ether.Berkeley.EDU by uclink.berkeley.edu (8.6.9/1.33(web)-OV4) id PAA03311; Tue, 7 Feb 1995 15:34:38 -0800 Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 15:34:38 -0800 From: [email protected] Message-Id: <[email protected]> Apparently-To: msu@ocf Status: RO THIS IS TO ALL MEMBERS OF THE MSU AND INVOLVES EVERYONE, PLEAS READ IT THOROUGHLY AND WITH AN OPEN MIND

Okay, Sumeir, I understand all that you wrote, I am not questioning the validity of Islam or the Koran at all. AS a matter of fact, lets just get of the Koran for a while, because my arguments and problems are NON-RELIGOUS. I just have problems with the current state of Muslims around the world and the MSU. The reason I am writing anonymously is because I do not want the whole Muslim population after me for my views (e.g. Salman Rushdie). I apoligize if use strong language and insult people in my following editorial but the issues I am going to be discussing I fell very strongly about. And crap like Ali Swabi and the MSU backing of David Irving really put me over the edge, and just pissed me off. Firs of all, in my previous letter I guess I gave you guys the wrong impression, that I thought the whole of MSU is racist, well I greatly apoligize. That is NOT what I meant. But there is, in fact, rampant racism in the MSU. For example, last year, during the ASUC elections, a member of the MSU came up to me and told me to vote for these two guys (as she handed me two flyers) and said to me that 'they are not Jewish'. That really agigated me, although I did not confront her at that time. And just last week couple of MSU members used MSU equipment to sell David Irving tickets. I understand the whole free speech issue, but backing ths guy and using MSU equipment, does show respect to his racist views. I have noticed numerous examples of prejudice, too many to just list, and many of these I have noticed in casual conversations I have had with other MSU members. To all these people, I know you know who you are, I think of you as highly as the burning pit of my nautious stomach (maybe I should not give you that much). It is right-winged, fanatical, idiotic scums like you that give Muslims a bad name. Not to mention Muslims around the world are in such bad shape because of people liek you. I have seen this type of pompous and prejudice in many Islam communites I have visited. All they do is quarell between themselves and make crude reamark about Jews, Christians, Hindus, etc.... It is not ironic that Muslims areound the wolrld are in such bad shape, we cannot live as a community but we jump at the chance to poke fun at other people. AS a matter of fact, jews, as a whole, are far more successful Page 7

IRVING.TXT the we are. Do our prejudices containg a little bit of jealousy? I do not know the answer to that, but is surely an interesting thought. We should work closely with and cooperate with people of other religions, at a local and international level, and with political differences aside. This could accomplish a lot for everybody involved, and it will surely make this place a better place to live. WE must also learn to live with ourselves, before we can even start to critic I welcome responsed to my letter, against or pro, although my real address is not written down, be assured that I will get them. I would like to see not racist stuff sent to the MSU net, it would be a refreshing change from the usual propaganda already being put up. I hope you read this with an open mind na dthanks for your time. Salaam From sumair Wed Feb 8 00:53:21 1995 Received: by planecrash.berkeley.edu (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4.1-DomainOS) id AA26275; Wed, 8 Feb 1995 00:52:56 -0800 Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 00:52:56 -0800 From: Sumair Mahmood <sumair> Message-Id: <[email protected]> To: msu@ocf Status: R >From daemon Wed Feb 8 00:09:10 1995 Received: by planecrash.berkeley.edu (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4.1-DomainOS) id AA25963; Wed, 8 Feb 1995 00:09:03 -0800 Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 00:09:03 -0800 From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON> Subject: Returned mail: User unknown Message-Id: <[email protected]> To: sumair Status: RO ----- Transcript of session follows ----While talking to uclink.Berkeley.EDU: >>> RCPT To: <<< 550 ... User unknown 550 [email protected]... User unknown ----- Unsent message follows ----Received: by planecrash.berkeley.edu (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4.1-DomainOS) id AA25961; Wed, 8 Feb 1995 00:09:03 -0800 Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 00:09:03 -0800 From: Sumair Mahmood <sumair> Message-Id: <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Your 2nd Post Salaam! Just wanted to get into your head and see if I can understand you better (sincerely). What exactly do you mean when you say, "We should work closely with and cooperate with people of other religions, at a local and international level, and with political differences aside"? From my understanding, and correct me if I'm wrong, this well-thought and well-phrased sentence consists of your goal for Muslims everywhere. But now tell me, being as specific as you can, please, how you envision this. By the by, I hope Farhan does not decide to filter stuff like this because I think this is awesome. How can we have unity of action until we have unity of thought? And if one is more comfortable being anonymous, then so be it. Page 8

IRVING.TXT Some of my concerns for you: (1) Is it possible for us to have a "non-religious" discussion about this? Keep in mind that Islam is not just a belief but a total life-guide that has answers for all of life's situations. For example, we learn from Islam not to name-call each other (whether or not we're arguing), and--if we ARE arguing over something, if I may quote Imam Musa--to argue sitting down, or, if the discussion gets really out of hand, to do so while lying on our sides. :) In fact, my understanding (albeit it may be corrupt) is that as Muslims we should look for precedents in the Quran and Sunna for ALL our acts. Every banal and mundane action of a Muslim, as well, is an act of 'Ibadah or worship for a true believer...this includes brushing one's teeth, smiling at a stranger, relieving a call of nature, even having sex with one's spouse can (and should) in fact be worship. (2) A point well-received. We Muslims should be careful about remarks we make about other people, because in fact in the end we cannot be sure even of our own destinies. It is those who call themselves "Muslims" who in the Hereafter will be found both in Paradise (Insha-Allah!) and THE LOWEST DEPTHS of Hell-Fire (the hypocrites will go here; we know this from the Quranic ayat). At the same time, we have to understand that some people are PROUD to be believers, and that sometimes we tend to express this pride as an enemy against non-believers rather than a tool and reminder for us to in fact have compassion upon them. Now, this is not to say that we cannot "generalize" statements against our open enemies, who we have every right to despise (under the limits of shari'ah, of course, but that is understood). As (I believe) is said in the Quran, the believers are those who love what Allah loves and hate that which Allah hates [inquire, and I'll see if I can find the reference]. [allow me to log-off and log back on so that this letter is not suddenly lost because the bloody system cuts my line] >From daemon Wed Feb 8 00:47:06 1995 Received: by planecrash.berkeley.edu (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4.1-DomainOS) id AA26224; Wed, 8 Feb 1995 00:47:00 -0800 Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 00:47:00 -0800 From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON> Subject: Returned mail: User unknown Message-Id: <[email protected]> To: sumair Status: R ----- Transcript of session follows ----While talking to uclink.Berkeley.EDU: >>> RCPT To: <<< 550 ... User unknown 550 [email protected]... User unknown ----- Unsent message follows ----Received: by planecrash.berkeley.edu (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4.1-DomainOS) id AA26222; Wed, 8 Feb 1995 00:47:00 -0800 Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 00:47:00 -0800 From: Sumair Mahmood <sumair> Message-Id: <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Part II (it's short!) salaam! thanks for being patient and reading this through! Concerns (cont.) (3) Are Jews, as a whole, really more successful than we are? Page 9

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IRVING.TXT nation which has utterly abandoned God's commandments and message (on the whole I'm sure you'll agree) truly be successful? Obviously our standards are not materialistic! Not that this point needs further elaboration...well, in that case just let me know if you think it does need Quranic support, which is really terribly easy to find. Our standards of success are based upon 'taqwa', piety through God consciousness. To quote Maulana Mawdudi, "A Muslim's success does not essentially consist of such worldly achievements as the conquest of a territory or the establishment of an empire. His true success depends on devoting all his physical and mental energy to upholding to word of God. If a devotes himself to this cause, he will be reckoned successful, EVEN IF THE RESULTS OF HIS EFFORTS, FROM A WORLDLY POINT OF VIEW, MIGHT ADD UP TO ZERO" (Source: this sheet of paper that is staring me in the face because Zain has posted it right above his desk). (4) Your proposal calls for, among other things, "work[ing] closely with ...people...[despite] political" and ideological (you use the word "religious") differences. Surely this coalition you propose has the motive, among other things (I still want to hear your elaboration of this sentence, so please don't let me put words in your mouth, but...) to eradicate the oppression of the world, as the Holy Q says: "We sent aforetime our messengers with clear signs and sent down with them the Book and the Balance, that mankind may stand forth in justice; [57:25 the rest of the ayat is pretty interesting, actually, but...] If you agree that Zionist Israelis are our open enemies--as you really must-then ISN'T THE SUPPORT OF PEOPLE LIKE DAVID IRVING INHERENT IN THE CALL YOU ARE MAKING TO US? Remember, again, that he is not a "Holocaust Denier" (By the way, have you ever heard him speak? Some of the stuff you have written makes me believe otherwise.) he is not a "Holocaust Denier" at all, but rather an anti-Zionist (allbeit a pro-British one with racially biased views). I apologize for the length of these correspondences, but hope you can pay me a courtesy by responding, if only briefly, to each of my concerns. I am taking this very seriously, and would not at all mind if you took your time to answer. Again, I believe this has the potential, at least, to be HIGHLY EFFECTIVE. I do not consider it 'useless bickering'. sumair From [email protected] Wed Feb 8 03:06:25 1995 Received: from uclink.Berkeley.EDU by plague.berkeley.edu (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4.1-DomainOS) id AA22249; Wed, 8 Feb 1995 03:05:34 -0800 Received: from [136.152.69.52] by uclink.berkeley.edu (8.6.9/1.33(web)-OV4) id CAA13455; Wed, 8 Feb 1995 02:16:10 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Eudora 2.1 Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 02:18:23 -0800 To: [email protected] From: [email protected] (Ausaf Ahmad Bari) Subject: RE: Bitter Muslim Status: R On Mon Feb

6 17:17:39 1995, [email protected] wrote:

We should live in peace with others on this earth, and change the image of islam from one of bombing terrorists and a "I'm OK, you're not OK" attitude, to one of a religion that loves mankind, and goes about its business "I won't bother you, you don't bother me". That is what Islam (form the Arabic for "peace") means. Page 10

IRVING.TXT ----------END OF QUOTE-----------------Assalamu alaikum, What you have said is not consistent with what Allah says in the Quran and with the Sunnah of Muhammad (saaws). Islam means submission to Allah. Those that submit to Allah are Muslims and they are on the right path. Those that do not are wrongdoers; they are NOT okay. So, it's perfectly fine for us to have an "I'm OK, you're not OK" attitude. In fact the Quran has this attitude. The Prophet fulfilled this attitude when he told the Kuffar to convert or else to fear the Punishment of the Day of Judgment. You're correct in that bombing innocent civilians is not the Sunnah of the Prophet. Muslims are superior to all other humans and the Quran says this but we have to spread the message of Islam in the correct way. But if you say that we must have an "I won't bother you, you don't bother me" attitude, you're wrong. I'm not sure what you mean by 'bother' but the Prophet (saaws) used to thrust himself before people and tell them to become Muslim. This is from hadith and the word used to describe it was 'thrust'. This was surely bothersome to the Arabs, to the point that they tried to kill him (saaws). -Ausaf -Ausaf A. Bari [email protected]

From [email protected] Wed Feb 8 04:06:26 1995 Received: from uclink.Berkeley.EDU by plague.berkeley.edu (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4.1-DomainOS) id AA22919; Wed, 8 Feb 1995 04:05:28 -0800 Received: from [136.152.69.52] by uclink.berkeley.edu (8.6.9/1.33(web)-OV4) id DAA19285; Wed, 8 Feb 1995 03:29:23 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Eudora 2.1 Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 03:31:36 -0800 To: msu@ocf From: [email protected] (Ausaf Ahmad Bari) Subject: Re: Bitterness not Based on Islam Status: R At 3:34 PM 2/7/95, [email protected] wrote: >THIS IS TO ALL MEMBERS OF THE MSU AND INVOLVES EVERYONE, PLEAS READ IT >THOROUGHLY AND WITH AN OPEN MIND In the Name of Allah, Most Merciful, Most Compassionate, Assalamu alaikum, First I think you should clarify what you exactly mean by 'open mind'. I will read everything with Quran and Sunnah in mind. > Okay, Sumeir, I understand all that you wrote, I am not >questioning the validity of Islam or the Koran at all. AS a matter of >fact, lets just get of the Koran for a while, because my arguments and >problems are NON-RELIGOUS. I just have problems with the current state >of Muslims around the world and the MSU. Page 11

IRVING.TXT How can you have problems with the current state of Muslims and say that your problems are 'NON-RELIGIOUS?' This is a contradiction. If you want to solve the problems you must look back to Quran and Sunnah. I think the attitude of 'getting off the Koran for a while' is the main problem with Muslims around the world. >about. And crap like Ali Swabi and the MSU backing of David Irving >really put me over the edge, and just pissed me off. I don't think that anything Ali Swabi said can be called 'crap'. If you think something is 'crap' why don't you use Quran and Sunnah to prove it? A true Muslim judges things by the Quran and Sunnah. If your method of judging things is different than this then let us know now. If you want to successfully argue any point with a Muslim you have to provide Islamic proof. >much). It is right-winged, fanatical, idiotic scums like you that give >Muslims a bad name. Not to mention Muslims around the world are in such >bad shape because of people liek you. Why are you so worried about Muslims having a bad image? The Kuffar will always hate us and portray us in a bad way. The Quran confirms this. We still have to deal justly with them but don't give me this Uncle Tom mentality of kissing up to Kafirs. Again, the real reason why Muslims as well as Non-muslims are in such bad shape around the world is because they have stopped following Quran and Sunnah. > I have seen this type of pompous and prejudice in many Islam >communites I have visited. All they do is quarell between themselves and >make crude reamark about Jews, Christians, Hindus, etc.... It is not >ironic that Muslims areound the wolrld are in such bad shape, we cannot >live as a community but we jump at the chance to poke fun at other This is true. Some Muslims waste too much time just bad-mouthing other people. The constructive way to show that we are better than the others is to invite them to Islam and prove to them that they are wrong. Just calling names is a waste of time. I agree with you on this point. >people. AS a matter of fact, jews, as a whole, are far more successful >the we are. Do our prejudices containg a little bit of jealousy? I do >not know the answer to that, but is surely an interesting thought. We Jews are successful? At what- stealing the land of the Muslims and driving them out? According to Allah, success is following Islam. The Jews are totally unsuccessful unless they follow Islam. Material success means nothing in the eyes of Allah. >should work closely with and cooperate with people of other religions, >at a local and international level, and with political differences >aside. This could accomplish a lot for everybody involved, and it will >surely make this place a better place to live. WE must also learn to >live with ourselves, before we can even start to critic If you look at the example of the Prophet (saaws), you will see that he was given many offers to cooperate with the Quraysh politically and religiously. However there are many examples of him rejecting all such offers. All you have to do is read your Islamic history. Muhammad (saaws) was awesome and he is our role model. Everything we do should be based on his actions. Otherwise don't call yourself a Muslim. If you say Muhammad (saaws) is the messenger of Allah then let's not just say it and leave it at that. Belief means action. If you believe it then act on it. If he rejected cooperation with other religions than who are you to contradict him? Wasn't he offered kingship over the Quraysh who were Kafirs and they Page 12

IRVING.TXT told him he could rule how he wanted? Couldn't he have accepted that offer and cooperated with them? But he didn't. He said that even if they put the Sun in his right hand and the moon in his left hand he would not give in. They tried to divert him from Islam by giving him kingship and he rejected! How can we come along now even think of proposing the opposite? How do you cooperate with a kafir who bases his/her laws on something other than Allah? The Quran clearly says: "And rule between them by that which Allah revealed to you, and do not follow their whims and beware that they may deviate you away from some of which Allah revealed to you." (5:49) "And if any fail to judge by what Allah has revealed, they are the wrongdoers." (5:45). There are many more verses which talk about this but this will do for now. Thus Islam is our method of ruling. Cooperating with a kafir means you follow a little of their way and they follow a little of ours. That is cooperation. That is compromise. We can't do that. The best way to help the world is to show them Islam in its purity, not by mixing Islam with their messed up systems. Our system is not messed up. We're messed up. We don't follow Islam anymore. Some of the things you're complaining about are a result of us not adhering to Islam. If you really want to attack specific people on this campus then bring legitimate Islamic proof against them. If you can't then you should look back and evaluate wether your attacks are really based on Islam or whether they are just your personal opinions. >Salaam Walaikum salaam, Ausaf A. Bari -Ausaf A. Bari [email protected]

From [email protected] Wed Feb 8 11:11:12 1995 Received: from uclink.Berkeley.EDU by plague.berkeley.edu (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4.1-DomainOS) id AA02346; Wed, 8 Feb 1995 11:05:27 -0800 Received: from uclink2.Berkeley.EDU by uclink.berkeley.edu (8.6.9/1.33(web)-OV4) id KAA16431; Wed, 8 Feb 1995 10:34:16 -0800 Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 10:34:16 -0800 From: [email protected] Message-Id: <[email protected]> Apparently-To: [email protected] Status: R TO FARHAN: If you do that, then you are going to be taking away my free speech rights. TO AUSAF AND SUMAIR: I read your responses, and will respond to them both later, I have an exam in a half hour. From farooqam Wed Feb 8 11:19:31 1995 Received: by lightning.berkeley.edu (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4.1-DomainOS) id AA02345; Wed, 8 Feb 1995 11:18:52 -0800 Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 11:18:52 -0800 From: Farooq Muzaffar Message-Id: <[email protected]> To: msu@ocf Subject: bitter and free speech Status: R Page 13

IRVING.TXT isn't it funny how bitter is partially bitter because some people say somethings that bitter opposes and is also partially bitter because some people supported Irving's "right to free speech." yet, bitter does not want his/her free speech taken away and also compares him/her self with that icon of muslim intolerance of free speech: salman rushdie. should we shout? should we scream? maggie, what happened to the new world dream? maybe its just me. farooq From [email protected] Wed Feb 8 14:04:04 1995 Received: from uclink.Berkeley.EDU by plague.berkeley.edu (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4.1-DomainOS) id AA04145; Wed, 8 Feb 1995 12:15:09 -0800 Received: from uclink2.Berkeley.EDU by uclink.berkeley.edu (8.6.9/1.33(web)-OV4) id LAA01358; Wed, 8 Feb 1995 11:27:54 -0800 Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 11:27:54 -0800 From: [email protected] Message-Id: <[email protected]> Farooq: I have no idea what you just wrote, but I am in no way comparing myselfto Salman Rushdie, I only brought him into the letter is to integrate the idea of my rights to free speech, just like David Irving and Salman Rushdie Apparently-To: msu@ocf Status: R From [email protected] Wed Feb 8 14:58:08 1995 Received: from cory.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (cory-138.EECS.Berkeley.EDU) by plague.berkeley.edu (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4.1-DomainOS) id AA06700; Wed, 8 Feb 1995 14:02:29 -0800 Received: (nizar@localhost) by cory.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.8/8.6.4) id OAA15503; Wed, 8 Feb 1995 14:02:17 -0800 Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 13:54:21 -0800 (PST) From: ABDALLA_NIZAR_ABDEL-RAHMAN Sender: ABDALLA_NIZAR_ABDEL-RAHMAN Reply-To: ABDALLA_NIZAR_ABDEL-RAHMAN Subject: A few thoughts ... To: msu@ocf Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Status: R Assalammu 'alaikum, The great Nizar is about to speak! So all must listen. Just kidding. Actually I just wanted to voice my opinion regarding this whole David Irving thing. To start off with, I'll just let everyone know where I stand on this issue. I was against a strong Muslim presence at the event. However I didn't care if any individual chose to go and seek knowledge. After all if there is any substance to this guy's information, it is very important that we know about it. But unfortunately, a strong Muslim presence is what happened ( Maybe unfortuanately is the wrong word). In the world we live in today, I think it would do us more harm than good to be associated with the likes of the obviously racist Irving. It doesn't help our image in any way if we are associated with such a controversial figure (Yes I know I shouldn't care what other think of me and my deen, after all if they have a problem with my deen then they can go to hell for all I care. But when there is such controversy involved in attending such an event that is not directly related to my religious beliefs, why take risks? Why give them more wood to fuel their hatred towards us? Kinda reminds me about a quote by some Yahoodi pig in Israel that I heard of when the PLO Page 14

IRVING.TXT supported Iraq during the gulf war:" The Palestinians never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity". We should learn how to take the right opportunities) Yet no one can claim the right to control how many Muslims go to the event, and I realize that. So, I would have rather no one went. But , I felt during the week preceding the event, with all the hoopla surrounding it that Muslims were ENCOURAGED to go, as if this was an extremely important Muslim issue. Yes it is an issue. But I think we should do our learning from this Irving guy at a distance. His information might help the Muslim struggle in the long run. For the solution to our problems is not what the two bitter brothers (or sisters) are implying: assimilation (I don't mean to put words in your mouths.correct me if I am wrong , but that's the impression that I got), but strenghtening ourselves and confronting the enemies of Allah until we achieve victory. I know I sound like I am contradicting myself by that last confrontation statement, but I think we should take things one step at a time. I don't think we can afford to be branded anti-semites (Not just yet, anyway. All in due time ;)I've always thought this term was funny, being part semite myself) when we are so ununited,as can be seen from our diverse views. Such labels only serve to cause further disunity as some of us seek to dissassociate ourselves from what should be our "common goal". In summary: Sumair and Ausaf I agree with you guys on the need to gain knowledge from this guy. I just don't know if the way we went about it was the best way. Bitter, I agree that we shouldn't have been as open in our support, at least not in this day and age. But seriously, there is nothing that you should be really bitter about. Wassalammu 'alaikum warahmattallah Your Brother in Islam Nizar Abdalla PS Farhan: Although I would prefer that Bitter let us know who we were talking to (We don't bite), please don't start censoring this forum. I kinda like these stimulating exchanges (as long as they don't deteriorate to name calling)

From daemon Thu Feb 9 06:32:45 1995 Received: by planecrash.berkeley.edu (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4.1-DomainOS) id AA07684; Thu, 9 Feb 1995 06:32:39 -0800 Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 06:32:39 -0800 From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON> Subject: Returned mail: User unknown Message-Id: <[email protected]> To: sumair Status: R ----- Transcript of session follows ----550 bogus... User unknown Page 15

IRVING.TXT ----- Unsent message follows ----Received: by planecrash.berkeley.edu (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4.1-DomainOS) id AA07681; Thu, 9 Feb 1995 06:32:39 -0800 Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 06:32:39 -0800 From: Sumair Mahmood <sumair> Message-Id: <[email protected]> To: bogus >From [email protected] Wed Feb 8 17:24:00 1995 Received: from nak.Berkeley.EDU by plague.berkeley.edu (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4.1-DomainOS) id AA12207; Wed, 8 Feb 1995 17:21:41 -0800 Received: from cafe.berkeley.edu.noname by nak.berkeley.edu (8.6.8.1/1.40) id RAA25945; Wed, 8 Feb 1995 17:21:37 -0800 Received: by cafe.berkeley.edu.noname (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA17329; Wed, 8 Feb 95 17:19:50 PST Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 17:19:49 -0800 (PST) From: "M.Kashif Qayyum" Subject: Re: your mail To: Sumair Mahmood <sumair@ocf> Cc: [email protected] In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: R > > By the by, I hope Farhan does not decide to filter stuff like this because I > think this is awesome. How can we have unity of action until we have unity > of thought? And if one is more comfortable being anonymous, then so be it. > Don't mean to nit-pic what may be perceived as trivialities in a rather juicy debate, but I'll venture a comment on your unity of thought line. I'll paraphrase a verse from memory. If you want I can look it up and give you a refentence. "God sends down the rain, so that the valleys are in flood with it, each according to its own capacity." The Islamic civilization has never thrived under unity of thought. The first 3 centuries saw around 150 different schools of law alone, not to mention schools of theology, philosophy, hadeeth, and even grammar. Heck, to this day there are 7 different readings of the Quran, all equally authentic. I'm afraid we are confusing unity of thought with a means of discourse. Once we have the system to interact our differences; not even necessarily resolve them, but to extract benefit from the variety, we will start seeing positive results. Salaams, Kashif Q.

From [email protected] Wed Feb 8 17:33:19 1995 Received: from nak.Berkeley.EDU by plague.berkeley.edu (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4.1-DomainOS) id AA12395; Wed, 8 Feb 1995 17:29:24 -0800 Received: from cafe.berkeley.edu.noname by nak.berkeley.edu (8.6.8.1/1.40) id RAA26747; Wed, 8 Feb 1995 17:29:23 -0800 Page 16

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On Wed, 8 Feb 1995 [email protected] wrote: > TO FARHAN: If you do that, then you are going to be taking away my free speech rights. > TO AUSAF AND SUMAIR: I read your responses, and will respond to them both later, I have an exam in a half hour. > Well you know what they say... Freedom of the press belongs to those who have one. The internet is a joint-effort community. No one has any 'right' to anything there. The operator of a machine can arbitrarily control what gets said and what doesn't, without interference from the supreme court. The same rights get transferred to the operators of a mailing list. Sorry. Kashif Q. From [email protected] Wed Feb 8 17:47:16 1995 Received: from uclink.Berkeley.EDU by plague.berkeley.edu (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4.1-DomainOS) id AA12677; Wed, 8 Feb 1995 17:40:15 -0800 Received: from [136.152.69.52] by uclink.berkeley.edu (8.6.9/1.33(web)-OV4) id RAA04162; Wed, 8 Feb 1995 17:02:57 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Eudora 2.1 Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 17:05:14 -0800 To: ABDALLA_NIZAR_ABDEL-RAHMAN , msu@ocf From: [email protected] (Ausaf Ahmad Bari) Subject: Re: A few thoughts ... Status: RO At 1:54 PM 2/8/95, ABDALLA_NIZAR_ABDEL-RAHMAN wrote: > In summary: Sumair and Ausaf I agree with you guys on the need to >gain knowledge from this guy. I just don't know if the way we went about it >was the best way. Bitter, I agree that we shouldn't have been as open in >our support, at least not in this day and age. But seriously, there is >nothing that you should be really bitter about. >Nizar Abdalla Page 17

Assalamu alaikum,

IRVING.TXT Brother Nizar, you say in your message that you agree with me on the need to gain knowledge from David Irving. I think you didn't read my email carefully. I never said anything concerning David Irving. I was always against going to hear him speak. I want to clarify that. -Ausaf -Ausaf A. Bari [email protected]

From [email protected] Wed Feb 8 19:32:54 1995 Received: from cory.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (cory-138.EECS.Berkeley.EDU) by plague.berkeley.edu (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4.1-DomainOS) id AA15114; Wed, 8 Feb 1995 19:16:09 -0800 Received: (nizar@localhost) by cory.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.8/8.6.4) id TAA03814; Wed, 8 Feb 1995 19:16:05 -0800 Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 18:48:06 -0800 (PST) From: ABDALLA_NIZAR_ABDEL-RAHMAN Subject: Re: A few thoughts ... To: Ausaf Ahmad Bari Cc: msu@ocf In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO

On Wed, 8 Feb 1995, Ausaf Ahmad Bari wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Assalamu alaikum, Brother Nizar, you say in your message that you agree with me on the need to gain knowledge from David Irving. I think you didn't read my email carefully. I never said anything concerning David Irving. I was always against going to hear him speak. I want to clarify that. -Ausaf -Ausaf A. Bari [email protected]

Assalammu alaikum, Br. Ausaf, I am really sorry for the misunderstanding on my part. It's just that with all this mail surrounding the event last week, I guess I must have subconciously (and rather dangerously) classified them as pro or anti-Bitter. (Even though I didn't think my letter was either). So my Summary at the bottom of my letter should have read I agree with Sumair in that we should gain knowledge from Irving. I sincerely apologize for this misunderstanding. Wassalam, Nizar Page 18

IRVING.TXT PS Incidently I went back and read your letters and found that I am in agreement with your views.

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FEAR.TXT From [email protected] Thu Feb 16 10:52:03 1995 Received: from uclink.Berkeley.EDU by plague.berkeley.edu (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4.1-DomainOS) id AA21958; Thu, 16 Feb 1995 10:36:42 -0800 Received: by uclink.berkeley.edu (8.6.9/1.33(web)-OV4) id KAA16124; Thu, 16 Feb 1995 10:36:33 -0800 Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 10:36:32 -0800 (PST) From: Farhan Ahmed Syed Subject: fear To: msu@ocf Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO Salaams. An interesting article i picked up from MSA-net. Apologies to those of you who've already received it. It deals with fear. I see a lot of it among themuslims here in the U.S. I see a lot of it among the muslims here in Berkeley. They call it common sense, or "protecting my future". It is basically fear. Salaams, Farhan ----------------------------------Posting No. 8)) from: "SUHEIL I. LAHER" Sent: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 08:52:57 -0400 (EDT) Subject:Fear Number: msa/15Feb95/13030 <Message Length: 56 lines> Bismillah Walhamdulillah Was Salaatu Was Salaam 'ala Rasulillah Something to think about. THERE CAN BE NO ISLAM WITH FEAR It is the chronic disease which has incapacitated generations of Muslims and come between them and the fulfilling of their duty. It is the disease of fear. Fear for one's life, for one's family, for one's job, or for one's wealth. It shackles the hands of its victim so that he becomes unable to repel wrong. It is a fear which muzzles its victim's mouth, turning him into a mute devil who does not defend his religion nor dares to speak the truth before the rulers. It is a fear which paralyzes the mind of its victim so that afterwards he does not see the truth as true nor the falsehood as false. It is a fear which engulfs the heart of its victim so that he makes no movement nor does he rush to confront disbelief and hypocrisy; rather, he is weighed down to the ground with many varied reasons and excuses. Therefore, people should know that the price of fear and the cost of feebleness are both exorbitant. Some people in the Persian Gulf feared for their wealth and treasures and therefore flattered the kings and the rulers and in fact, found excuses for them. The result of this was that their countries were transformed into American protectorates which the crusaders manipulate in whatever way they wish. Their treasures were snatched away from them under the excuse of defrayment of expenses for the hired troops. Nor were the people of Iraq of any better status. The people did not change the wrong out of fear for their lives. They were reluctant to pay the price for honor and dignity. They Page 1

FEAR.TXT became feeble before the tyranny of Saddam, the great butcher and the chief of criminals. People thought it too much to put forward the price of one or two thousand (lives) to liberate themselves and to draw nearer to Allah, the One, the Supreme. Thus the Lunatic of Iraq squandered more than 1.5 million lives and hundreds of millions of dinars in pursuit of his foolhardy adventures and desires. What then is the condition of the youth of the Islamic revival who boast of their efforts for this religion and of sacrifice for the Lord of the Worlds. And yet they think every cry is upon them. These people saw the "Jihad in America" broadcast on television and rushed, without caring about anything, to trim their beards and then went out in front of people with smooth, delightful faces, thinking that this was the peak of subtlety and the ultimate in intelligence. The cowards see cowardice as reason, And that is the treachery of the depraved disposition. You should know, my brothers, that the command of this religion will never reach a peak, nor will all the nations follow its guidance, except on the shoulders of men whose hearts are devoid of any semblance of fear and traces of weakness. The flag of tawheed will never be entrusted except to those who proceed in spite of conspiracies and trials. So, despicable indeed is the one who is weak and cowardly, and blessed is every mujahid in the path of his religion who considers the price cheap. ___________________________ [email protected] !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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