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Chandra as Chronometer Chandra as Dasha Calculator
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Sequence of presentation Introduction Chandra as a chronometer Transit through the zodiac Chandra as a Dasha indicator Transit through a Nakshatra Quantisation of birth time Rectification of birth time Understanding the concept of Dasha period December 13, 2008
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Quantisation of birth time Role of Chandra as chronometer The term “Nakshatra” refers to a segment of the zodiac covering an arc of 13°-20’. The zodiac of 360° is thus made up of 27 Nakshatras, viz., 27x13°-20’ = 360°, making a full circle. The presence of Chandra (the Moon), the fastest moving body of the planetary entities in each of these Nakshatras is one of the important parameters in Oriental astrology. Chandra is thus the long needle of the zodiac clock given by Nature. December 13, 2008
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1 lunar cycle consists of 27 Nakshatras 1 year equals 360 days
Long needle Time needle
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360 days equal 13 lunar cycles + 9 Nakshatras 27 x 13 = 351 + 9 = 360 Each Nakshatra occupies 130-20‘ of arc, 27 Nakshatras cover one zodiac circle 5
Quantisation of birth time Chandra as Dasha indicator - 1 Assumption: A birth occurs during the transit of Chandra in Krithika Nakshatra (00-0‘) (Ravi Maha Dasha of 6 years) 6 years represent whole of 13°-20‘ = 800‘ arc in the zodiac belonging to Krithika Nakshatra (260 ♈ 40‘ to 100 ♉ 00‘) 800‘ of arc is equal to 6 x 360 (days) = 2160 Nakshatras This equals 2160/27 = 80 Lunar cycles 800‘ of arc distance is covered in 80 lunar cycles December 13, 2008
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Quantisation of birth time Chandra as Dasha indicator - 2 We can thus visualise a clock with two needles One long needle representing the daily movement of Chandra (time needle) to complete the lunar cycles (in the above case 80 cycles) Another, short one, again representing Chandra, covering the 800' arc (arc needle) distance in the zodiac December 13, 2008
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Quantisation of birth time Chandra as Dasha indicator - 3 The short needle (arc needle) covers 800′ in 80 lunar cycles For every lunar cycle the arc needle advances by 10′ (800′/80 lunar cycles) of the zodiac arc In every lunar cycle, Chandra´s long needle (time needle) transits through all 27 Nakshatras. For each Nakshatra transited by the time needle, only 10′/27 = 22.222” of arc is travelled by the arc needle. December 13, 2008
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7y Ke 17y
19y
Bu
Gu
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Arc needle
Sa
16y
Ra 6y
800‘ arc equals different Dasha periods!
For a given Dasha period, Ch the arc Each arm 10y distance measures 800' travelled by arc needle per Ku lunar cycle 7y will be Rh different ! 18y Karanam L. Ramakumar Hyderabad Astrology Summit
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Quantisation of birth time Salient points with respect to example taken (Ravi Maha Dasha) For 800‘ of 6 y, the arc needle will traverse Ravi Nakshatra only During that period, the time needle completes 80 lunar cycles During every lunar cycle, the arc needle traverses 10‘ arc distance During every lunar cycle, time needle once passes through Krithika Nakshatra Both the needles will be overlapping for 22.2222” arc. Birth in Krithika Nakshatra occurs during that overlapping period only December 13, 2008
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Quantisation of birth time When both the needles are exactly at Krithika 0°, whole of Ravi Dasha Period of 6 years is accounted. Any birth in Krithika Nakshatra is possible only when the arc needle is in between 0° and 22.222” After 22.222”, the time needle would have entered into another Nakshatra’s domain. Birth in Krithika is not possible for another 27 days (or after 27 Nakshatras are travelled through) till the arc needle is in between 10’ and 10’-22.222”, during which time both the needles conjunct again in Krithika Nakshatra. December 13, 2008
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Quantisation of birth time Thus birth in Krithika Nakshatra occurs at intervals of 10´ arc (every 27 days) starting from 00 (26 ♈ 40 to 10 ♉ 00) Krithika for 22.2222" duration during which time both the needles (time and arc needles) will be overlapping. This continues until the 800´ arc of Krithika Nakshatra is consumed. Any other number would not just fit into the scheme since the long needle would be elsewhere. Thus quantisation of birth time occurs. December 13, 2008
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How to realise this quantisation of birth time ? It is clear that quantisation of birth time is based on Chandra’s time keeping (time needle and arc needle) What we have from a birth chart is time and Chandra’s longitude. So a reverse calculation is carried out to arrive at the correct birth time. From given birth day, time and place, the longitude of Chandra at birth time is arrived at and the Nakshatra of the Birthday is then found out. December 13, 2008
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Rectification of birth time 1. Express this longitude arc minutes representing (similar to the method elapsed Dasha period).
of Chandra as the elapsed the Nakshatra of the day we use to arrive at the
2. Convert this into Lunar cycles and adjust the value to the nearest whole number giving the completed Lunar cycle. 3. From this calculate the corresponding longitude of Chandra. 4. We get the correct longitude of Chandra. 5. Then adjust the birth time to get this longitude. December 13, 2008
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Correcting the birth time
The horoscope thus obtained is then subjected to critical analysis by correlating it to the events in the life of that individual.
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Computer Programme A computer programme was written for correcting the longitude of Chandra and from that the birth time. Any birth time given is corrected so that the consumed Dasha Period in days is a multiple of 27. Subsequent Dasha and Antardasha Periods are calculated based on Nakshatras. Our computer program gives the Dasha, Antardasha, and Vidasha Periods based on this Nakshatra Paddhati. For correct analysis it is advisable to go up to Prana Dasha Periods. So, for astrological comprehension, one should not ignore these all-important smaller Dashas. December 13, 2008
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Planet
Dasha Years (arc)
No. of lunar Arc Arc cycles length/cycle length/Nakshatra
Ravi
6 (800´)
80
10´
22.22222˝
Chandra 10 (800‘) 133.333334
6´
13.33333˝
Kuja
7 (800´)
8.5714´
19.04762˝
Rahu
18 (800´) 240
3.3333´
7.40741˝
Guru
16 (800´) 213.333334
3.75´
8.33333˝
Sani
19 (800´) 253.333334
3.1579´
7.01754˝
Budha
17 (800´) 226.666667
3.5294´
7.84314˝
Ketu
7 (800´)
8.5714´
19.04762˝
Sukra
20 (800´) 266.666667
3´
6.66666˝
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93.3333334
93.3333334
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Example 1 Chandra´s Longitude = 20 7´ (Krithika 2 padam) Elapsed arc minutes from Krithika 00 = 327´ For Ravi 80 lunar
Maha dasha, 800´ (130-20´) correspond to cycles and each lunar cycle = 10´
Completed lunar cycles at the time of birth = 327/10 = 32.7 Nearest whole lunar cycle = 33 Hence the difference = 33 – 32.7 = 0.3 cycle = 0.3 x 10 = 3´ Corrected Chandra´s longitude = 20 10´ December 13, 2008
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Example 2
Chandra´s Longitude = 40 21´(Aswini 2 padam) Ketu Maha dasha is running Elapsed arc minutes from Aswini 00 = 261´ For Ketu Maha dasha, 800´ (130-20´) correspond to 93.3333334 lunar cycles and each lunar cycle = 8.5714´ Completed lunar cycles at the time of birth = 261/ 8.5714 = 30.4501015 Nearest whole lunar cycle = 30 Hence the difference = 30 – 30.4501015 = - 0.4501015 cycle = - 0.4501015 x 8.5714 = - 4´ Corrected Chandra´s longitude = 40 17´ December 13, 2008
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Nearest
Chandra´s position
Lord
No. of completed lunar cycles
Difference and (arc full cycle equivalent), Chandra longitude
27
Ravi
32.7
33
0.3 (3´) 2 10
17 5
Chandra
70.833333
71
0.16667 (1´) 17 6
3 56
Kuja
69.5336
70
0.4664 (4) 4 00
18 10
Rahu
206.999999
207
0.0000 (0) 18 10
1 16
Guru
180.2666667 180
- 0.266667 (-1) 1 15
14 23
Sani
209.94966
210
0.0503499 (10") 14 23-10
19 55
Budha
55.2502
55
- 0.25 (- 1) 19 54
4 21
Ketu
30.4501
30
- 0.4501 (- 4) 4 17
20 12
Sukra
102.6666
103
0.333334 (1) 20 13
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Planet Ravi Kuja
Arc Arc length / length/cycle Nakshatra 10´ 22.22222˝ 8.5714´ 19.04762˝
8.5714´ Ketu Chandra 6´ 3.3333´ Rahu Guru Sani
3.75´ 3.1579´
Budha Sukra
3.5294´ 3´
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19.04762˝ 13.33333˝ 7.40741˝ 8.33333˝ 7.01754˝ 7.84314˝ 6.66666˝
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Interesting observations 3 Groups of Planets Maximum correction for Chandra longitude (± 11.11111“) if birth occurs in Ravi Maha Dasha (about ± 10 minutes for Ravi Dasha born natives) Maximum correction for Chandra longitude (± 6.66666“) if birth occurs in Chandra Maha Dasha (about ±6 minutes for Chandra Dasha born natives Maximum correction for Chandra longitude (± 3.33333“) if birth occurs in Sukra Maha Dasha (about ±3 minutes for Sukra Dasha born natives 21
It would be interesting to see whether similar observations / conclusions are drawn / arrived at when birth time is corrected based on other prevalent methods Maximum birth correction of ≈10 min if birth occurs during Ravi Maha Dasha Maximum birth correction of ≈6 min if birth occurs during Chandra Maha Dasha Maximum birth correction of ≈3 min if birth occurs during Sukra Maha Dasha
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Time needle
20 Y 7Y
6Y
17 Y
10 Y
19 Y
7Y 16 Y
18 Y
Arc needle December 13, 2008
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Dasha Periods The logic of time keeping by Chandra and the rectification of birth time there from was extended to calculation of starting and ending days for Dasha periods This is desirable to reduce the uncertainty in arriving at the timing of events in the life of a native based on the Dasha Paddhathi The deviation from the expected starting day and the day shown as of now based on Julian calendar becomes substantial for long Dasha periods (Guru, Budha, Rahu, Sani and Sukra) December 13, 2008
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A - B
MD-AD
Start - end
108 180 126 324 288 342 306 126 360
RA-RA RA-CH RA-KU RA-RH RA-GU RA-SA RA-BU RA-KE RA-SU
Krithika 00-Krithika 0.66670 Krithika 0.66670-Uttarashadha 1.77780 Uttarashadha 1.77780-Uttara 2.55560 Uttara 2.55560-Uttara 4.55560 Uttara 4.55560-Krithika 6.33330 Krithika 6.33330-Uttarashadha 8.44440 Uttarashadha 8.44440-Krithika 10.3330 Krithika 10.3330-Uttarashadha 11.1110 Uttarashadha 11.1110-Rohini 0.000000
-108 -162 -108 -324 -270 -324 -297 -108 -351
A = Total number of Nakshatras in the corresponding DashaAntardasha B = Number of Nakshatras in multiples of 27 December 13, 2008
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A - B
MD-AD
Start - end
300-297 210-189 540-540 480-459 570-567 510-486 210-189 600-594 180-162
CH-CH CH-KU CH-RH CH-GU CH-SA CH-BU CH-KE CH-SU CH-RA
Rohini 00- Punarvasu 1.11110 Punarvasu 1.11110 –Aswini 1.88890 Aswini 1.88890 - Aswini 3.88890 Aswini 3.88890 –Sravanam 5.66670 Sravanam 5.66670-Purvabhadra 7.77770 Purvabhadra 7.77770 –Sravanam 9.66670 Sravanam 9.66670-Visakha 10. 44440 Visakha 10.44440-Sravanam 12.66670 Sravanam 12.66670-Chitta 0.000000
A = Total number of Nakshatras in the corresponding DashaAntardasha B = Number of Nakshatras in multiples of 27 December 13, 2008
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http://www.archive.org/ details/JatakaNavaneet am_38 http://www.pdfcoke.com/ doc/4641183/JatakaNavaneetam
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Namaskarams to one and all December 13, 2008
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Bhava Concept as we see (an example) When a bhava is in the fourth quarter of Aslesha Nakshatra towards the end of the Rasi Karkatakm, the planets in Simha Rasi do not influence that bhava even if they are found in the first quarter of Makha Nakshatra at the start of Simha Rasi. (But according to Krishnamurthy Paddhati, these planets are supposed to be in the bhava beginning at the fourth quarter of Aslesha in Karkatakam) If two bhavas are placed in the same Rasi, all the planets in that Rasi have to work for both the bhavas.
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Suppose the lagna bhava is Mrigasira-3 and the 2nd bhava is Punarvasu-3, then the lagna bhava extends backwards to Mrigasira-1 in Vrishabha Rasi and the 2nd bhava extends up to Punarvasu-4 of Karkatakam. If the Nakshatras do not extend beyond a particular Rasi and a bhava is placed in such Nakshatras, then the influence of that bhava is limited only to that Rasi.
This is how we interpret the Bhava concept, which is quite different from that of Sripati Paddhati or Krishnamurthy Paddhati, both of which are in wide circulation.
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Accuracy of the horoscope is assessed by confirming the main events that have already happened in the life of the native after going through DBA (Dasa, Bhukti and Antras) If the events tally, the horoscope is correct, if the events do not tally the horoscope requires " Birth Time Rectification ". Ruling Planets for birth rectification Day Lord Moon Sign Lord Nakshatra Lord Ascendant Lord : It is the lord of the Ascendant rising at the time when the query for rectification of the birth chart is put to the astrologer December 13, 2008
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Step 1 Note down the time of the question and take the degrees of the Ascendant.
Step2 Find the ruling planets at the time the query is made.
Step3 Third step involves casting of the horoscope from the approximate time of birth provided by the native.
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Step 4 Take the Table of Sign Lord, Nakshatra Lord & Sub Lord from the annexure provided in this website.
Step 5 Now we have to arrive at the Ascendant, Nakshatra & the Cuspal Sub lord from the ruling planets arrived upon from the "Step 2".
Step 6 This step involves casting of horoscope by taking down the degree of Ascendant arrived at by the use of Step 5. December 13, 2008
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