Goal-517-chat With Andew And Mars

[7:58:26 PM] *** andrew.decosta added ramanbasu to this chat *** [7:58:36 PM] andrew.decosta says: Hello Roman [7:58:44 PM] Mars Team says: Hello Dear, [7:58:53 PM] ramanbasu says: hi [7:59:05 PM] andrew.decosta says: Now We are disscussing about project scope [7:59:13 PM] ramanbasu says: okay , go ahead [7:59:16 PM] andrew.decosta says: and time frame [7:59:25 PM] andrew.decosta says: and new idea [7:59:39 PM] Mars Team says: we need to build site Like Google [7:59:46 PM] ramanbasu says: ok, what should we start with, first? [7:59:52 PM] Mars Team says: Search Engine with other tasks [8:00:18 PM] Mars Team says: search engine. + mail provider + messenger + video tube + News [8:00:32 PM] ramanbasu says: okay.. :) [8:00:32 PM] Mars Team says: So.. we need Offer From ur Company, [8:00:52 PM] Mars Team says: explain task by task. and give Cost and time for every one [8:00:55 PM] ramanbasu says: We wil be proud to offer our services for you [8:01:20 PM] Mars Team says: So.. i will wait ur offer. [8:01:33 PM] Mars Team says: and there are many offers we get, and i hope u will be the best,, [8:02:27 PM] ramanbasu says: sure.. lets discuss something now.. quickly so that we can provide with you, an elaborated and detailed offer. [8:02:39 PM] ramanbasu says: Since the entire project's scope is huge, we can now discuss the top level taks [8:02:45 PM] ramanbasu says: am i right? :) [8:03:04 PM] Mars Team says: yes, sure [8:03:08 PM] Mars Team says: ask me what u want.

[8:04:01 PM] ramanbasu says: Are you determined to set off from creating google clone first? or Youtube clone can be done first too? [8:04:31 PM] Mars Team says: First we want build Search Engine Site, [8:04:45 PM] Mars Team says: then we will complete other Tasks.. Like Mail Provider, and messger. [8:05:10 PM] Mars Team says: search engine,, then Mail then Messenger,, then news then video tube [8:05:40 PM] ramanbasu says: Which features of google, attract you most? all / some? [8:06:15 PM] Mars Team says: Feature.. Search in web.. add url to site..fast work.,. [8:06:21 PM] Mars Team says: ads, [8:06:31 PM] Mars Team says: i dont know all feature in google search, [8:06:36 PM] Mars Team says: u can tell me if u know [8:07:08 PM] ramanbasu says: Let me tell you briefly how things should work-- or planning can be done: [8:08:30 PM] ramanbasu says: 1) Search Eng needs logic development. A set of resources will work on building the Search algorithm. This can be done using c++, cgi, perl and combination of all.. [8:09:35 PM] Mars Team says: yes, [8:09:43 PM] ramanbasu says: 2) Based on Algorithm on (1), we will create a web crawler, fast enough to work autonomously - the objective will be to add as many urls possible to SE's own database [8:10:31 PM] ramanbasu says: 3) APIs: Numbers of API need to be created to be used for adsense and tracking purpose [8:11:12 PM] ramanbasu says: APIs will be provided to sites as JavaScript and those JS functions will invoke web service residing at SE's services [8:11:34 PM] Mars Team says: yes, [8:12:10 PM] ramanbasu says: One thing, we cant use google's algorithm to protect copyright [8:12:51 PM] Mars Team says: u know Google Algorithm.??? [8:12:59 PM] ramanbasu says: little bit :) [8:13:04 PM] Mars Team says: good. [8:13:13 PM] Mars Team says: ur good dear,

[8:14:04 PM] ramanbasu says: 4) ADSENSE service: one of the APIs will manage, track and alalyze the sponsors' advertisements, place those in order of significance, track the usage, create data report for clicked/visited URLS [8:14:52 PM] Mars Team says: yes, [8:15:16 PM] Mars Team says: u know,, as this site must make Ads,, coz it will be only way to have money , [8:15:31 PM] ramanbasu says: 5) Script usage customization: This service will allow site webmasters to create, manage, track their site's performance, number of hits/misses, counter, track site errors and more [8:16:54 PM] ramanbasu says: 5) An administrative system to allow SE owner's own management, i.e. to track down the revenues, provide coupons, grifts, advertisement to other sites, referral income etc [8:17:05 PM] ramanbasu says: ** above 6) [8:17:20 PM] Mars Team says: yes [8:17:31 PM] ramanbasu says: The above are the things to be done in nutshell [8:17:41 PM] Mars Team says: ok very good, u have very Good idea and info about Search engine, [8:18:01 PM] ramanbasu says: thanks [8:18:10 PM] Mars Team says: dear, where r u from....? [8:18:18 PM] ramanbasu says: we are from India, Calcutta [8:18:29 PM] ramanbasu says: Calcutta, India sorry :) [8:18:29 PM] Mars Team says: ah,, but ur not like other indian,, [8:18:33 PM] ramanbasu says: :| [8:18:35 PM] andrew.decosta says: India [8:18:39 PM] ramanbasu says: how do u mean?? [8:18:41 PM] Mars Team says: i talk with 10 indian,, and all of them lier for me, [8:18:46 PM] andrew.decosta says: right [8:18:53 PM] Mars Team says: and spend all my time [8:19:03 PM] Mars Team says: ur differnet [8:19:10 PM] ramanbasu says: we are sorry for that [8:19:14 PM] andrew.decosta says: May be

[8:19:17 PM] Mars Team says: no problem dear, , [8:19:20 PM] ramanbasu says: :) [8:19:22 PM] Mars Team says: as it huge project [8:19:29 PM] andrew.decosta says: :) [8:19:39 PM] Mars Team says: we need to patient [8:19:44 PM] ramanbasu says: okay.. [8:19:45 PM] Mars Team says: ok dear,, [8:19:53 PM] Mars Team says: u can make offer for me...? [8:20:10 PM] Mars Team says: make it more than one if u want, [8:20:14 PM] Mars Team says: 1 for search engine, [8:20:20 PM] Mars Team says: 2nd for mail provider, [8:20:24 PM] andrew.decosta says: Raman we will send him a offer [8:20:28 PM] Mars Team says: and u can explain features, [8:20:35 PM] ramanbasu says: sure... we will. [8:20:51 PM] Mars Team says: really i think to accept u , [8:20:52 PM] ramanbasu says: A big project like this needs more thinking process to make it success [8:21:07 PM] Mars Team says: yes, take ur time, [8:21:13 PM] ramanbasu says: I hope you understand Mars :) [8:21:19 PM] Mars Team says: pls list imprtant features, [8:21:27 PM] Mars Team says: yes its need time i know that [8:21:30 PM] andrew.decosta says: for mail? [8:21:34 PM] Mars Team says: i am tech. also, and now that, [8:21:44 PM] ramanbasu says: But I appreciate your positive mind towards us [8:22:00 PM] Mars Team says: ok dear, [8:22:11 PM] Mars Team says: How many Days u need to make offer for us..? [8:22:30 PM] ramanbasu says: pls wait moment! [8:22:47 PM] Mars Team says: ok dear take ur time, [8:23:01 PM] ramanbasu says: ok, let me demonstrate how mail system will work----

[8:23:36 PM] Mars Team says: yes [8:24:07 PM] ramanbasu says: 1) We need to create a Mail server, which will be designed to work like standard mail server, but with more robustness and scalability [8:24:36 PM] ramanbasu says: Google uses COMET technology, you can call it PUSH method [8:25:08 PM] Mars Team says: we can't use same Google Tech..?? [8:25:52 PM] ramanbasu says: so that, whenever you get a mail, Inbox gets populated irrespective of whether we click on Refresh or not.. We will need big research on this. No other company has been able to clone google successfully [8:25:59 PM] ramanbasu says: not even yahoo [8:26:27 PM] Mars Team says: yes, [8:26:30 PM] ramanbasu says: I am aware of some its techniques.. [8:27:28 PM] ramanbasu says: It will be better, if we get a chance to work on a feasible, usable steady mail server system. I suggest this because, there is no need to reinvent the wheel [8:28:31 PM] ramanbasu says: We will surely involve ourselves to the success of that system. [8:28:41 PM] Mars Team says: Great man [8:29:31 PM] ramanbasu says: We will think over whether we should engage ourselves into mail server dev, since we will be busy with search eng modules a lot. [8:30:01 PM] Mars Team says: ok dear, [8:30:08 PM] andrew.decosta says: Shall I ask one thing mars? [8:30:19 PM] Mars Team says: yes dear go ahead [8:30:47 PM] andrew.decosta says: What about your budget? [8:30:47 PM] ramanbasu says: Andrew.. go on [8:30:52 PM] andrew.decosta says: and dead line [8:31:24 PM] ramanbasu says: I know, why Andrew is asking this... We need to build an entire office actually with more resources [8:31:35 PM] ramanbasu says: so , knowing the budget in advance will help us a lot [8:31:40 PM] andrew.decosta says: yes that's right :) [8:31:41 PM] Mars Team says: its not for disclose,, [8:31:56 PM] Mars Team says: but u can sure that we can pay

[8:32:06 PM] Mars Team says: coz the project for Countrym [8:32:09 PM] Mars Team says: country* [8:32:20 PM] Mars Team says: its not for company, or personl [8:32:31 PM] andrew.decosta says: yes [8:32:58 PM] Mars Team says: but,, remmber , u can offer good price, there are many competitors [8:33:30 PM] ramanbasu says: we will surely consider competition but not throwing out the quality. [8:33:40 PM] ramanbasu says: that'd better not be compromised [8:33:50 PM] andrew.decosta says: But you know mars it is a huge project [8:34:07 PM] andrew.decosta says: yes quality is main thing [8:34:14 PM] Mars Team says: yes its huge ur right, [8:34:31 PM] Mars Team says: u can make rational price, [8:34:37 PM] Mars Team says: right..? [8:35:21 PM] ramanbasu says: we understand.. let me tell you a story if you dont mind - Google was almost under cloud even after , and they needed another funding from Sillicon valley to survive [8:35:37 PM] andrew.decosta says: yes plz [8:36:08 PM] ramanbasu says: something like $40 millions was funded by 2-3 investors to get it back n track [8:36:21 PM] Mars Team says: aha,, [8:36:34 PM] ramanbasu says: once they started developing SE, no investor came up [8:36:57 PM] ramanbasu says: as soon as their adsense and adword clicked, they became the top #1 [8:37:12 PM] Mars Team says: yes, [8:37:21 PM] Mars Team says: we dont think to have all google features [8:37:30 PM] Mars Team says: google have wether, book,, video,,,etc [8:37:35 PM] Mars Team says: its many many features there, [8:37:42 PM] ramanbasu says: yes, you are right... [8:38:22 PM] andrew.decosta says: okey Shall we disscuss about youtube?

[8:38:28 PM] ramanbasu says: sure.. :) [8:38:29 PM] andrew.decosta says: like feature [8:38:40 PM] ramanbasu says: let me narrate in short:::: [8:38:48 PM] andrew.decosta says: ok [8:38:59 PM] Mars Team says: yes, many ready scripts and clone. [8:39:11 PM] Mars Team says: video. share,. upload, watch, [8:39:19 PM] Mars Team says: its about video tube, [8:39:24 PM] Mars Team says: its simple for u , [8:39:38 PM] Mars Team says: we dont need to use ready scripts. [8:39:43 PM] Mars Team says: we must build it, [8:39:46 PM] ramanbasu says: The major modules we need to develop are (It should not be just a clone, it will slightly be diff from youtube) [8:40:00 PM] andrew.decosta says: like? [8:40:03 PM] ramanbasu says: I dislike ready made scripts [8:40:11 PM] ramanbasu says: andew, am I right? [8:40:13 PM] Mars Team says: me too, [8:40:20 PM] andrew.decosta says: sure I am also [8:40:21 PM] ramanbasu says: let me tell you the planning[8:40:23 PM] andrew.decosta says: :) [8:40:30 PM] andrew.decosta says: ok [8:40:44 PM] Mars Team says: we like to add more feature and make it nice design , [8:41:03 PM] Mars Team says: its many projects we will connect all for 1 projects website [8:41:42 PM] ramanbasu says: 1) The design will be clean, neat and based on web 2.0 standard [8:42:02 PM] ramanbasu says: Apart from general modules like users, their management, we will allow users to set their own theme for their profile [8:42:17 PM] ramanbasu says: we can surely do this.. [8:42:18 PM] Mars Team says: nice,

[8:42:19 PM] ramanbasu says: ? [8:42:42 PM] Mars Team says: make use upload, share videos [8:42:49 PM] Mars Team says: search in video site, [8:42:50 PM] Mars Team says: etc.. [8:43:03 PM] ramanbasu says: yes.... 2) The Video streaming code will show videos a usual, flash based and normal one, like other sites [8:43:27 PM] Mars Team says: yes [8:43:29 PM] ramanbasu says: 2) Rating, Sharing, collaborating among the members are common. [8:43:48 PM] ramanbasu says: 3) Each Video page will have Blog to share.. [8:44:05 PM] ramanbasu says: 4) Related Videos, related members will be displayed for easy navigation [8:44:55 PM] ramanbasu says: 5) * User can also link to the online video services from their desktops [8:45:16 PM] ramanbasu says: I suggest this, because no good sites have done this [8:45:29 PM] Mars Team says: what is the 5 point pls. [8:45:47 PM] andrew.decosta says: Plz disscuss more about point 5) [8:46:41 PM] ramanbasu says: Member of the site, will be able to see everything ( or something) from his desktop application (a small tool), the tool will connect to the remote service and fetch the info to the user [8:46:54 PM] ramanbasu says: am I clear? [8:46:58 PM] Mars Team says: nice [8:47:27 PM] ramanbasu says: if I had money, I would have done one such for myself already :) [8:47:27 PM] Mars Team says: we can merge it with Messenger Software, [8:47:31 PM] ramanbasu says: yes [8:47:36 PM] andrew.decosta says: :) [8:47:42 PM] Mars Team says: ?? [8:47:53 PM] Mars Team says: can we merge it with messenger software [8:48:05 PM] ramanbasu says: yes, IM will have standard features as well as the ones I said

[8:48:07 PM] Mars Team says: click to open videos online [8:48:12 PM] ramanbasu says: yeah exactly [8:48:16 PM] Mars Team says: and another click to open messenger [8:48:33 PM] ramanbasu says: even, from his IM, he can see it [8:48:39 PM] Mars Team says: ok greate [8:48:39 PM] ramanbasu says: single app , multiple features [8:48:48 PM] Mars Team says: Good, [8:48:59 PM] ramanbasu says: e.g. MSN video ADs in Messenger [8:49:10 PM] Mars Team says: yes [8:49:14 PM] Mars Team says: Ok Raman [8:49:26 PM] Mars Team says: what about News [8:49:31 PM] Mars Team says: we need page for news, [8:49:36 PM] Mars Team says: and admin for that, [8:49:42 PM] Mars Team says: add remove , etc. [8:50:13 PM] ramanbasu says: News: it will consist of two big features. a) News Server b) News UI [8:50:48 PM] ramanbasu says: a) Server will collect the news, store into database from different sources, e.g. from RSS feeds [8:51:41 PM] ramanbasu says: a) 1) Admin can add, manage, remove the news source in two ways-- one is manual news entry, second is auto feed [8:52:04 PM] ramanbasu says: a) (2) News will be categorical. [8:52:12 PM] ramanbasu says: and tag based [8:52:27 PM] Mars Team says: ok good, [8:52:42 PM] ramanbasu says: e.g. I, being a NY resident, wont like to read chicago news at all :) [8:53:27 PM] ramanbasu says: b) NEws UI: Pages, designs, navigation modules etc that users can see online [8:53:48 PM] ramanbasu says: am I right? [8:53:52 PM] Mars Team says: good

[8:54:05 PM] ramanbasu says: Again, our news server will act like FeedBurner.com [8:54:11 PM] ramanbasu says: i.e. a mash up of news [8:54:16 PM] ramanbasu says: that other sites will use [8:54:38 PM] Mars Team says: its can be like GOogle news..? [8:54:55 PM] ramanbasu says: abosolutely 100% [8:55:18 PM] ramanbasu says: Internal data can be represented in goole way or evenin yahoo way... that doesnt matter [8:55:45 PM] ramanbasu says: NEws readers can have scrolling news based on category, even. [8:55:57 PM] Mars Team says: ok good. [8:56:09 PM] Mars Team says: now dear, u understand all what we think [8:56:13 PM] Mars Team says: and ur really great [8:56:19 PM] Mars Team says: u have good idea [8:56:27 PM] Mars Team says: and nice to work with u and i hope that [8:56:28 PM] ramanbasu says: not that much... thanks :) [8:56:46 PM] Mars Team says: i will wait ur offer [8:57:01 PM] ramanbasu says: one thing.. [8:57:01 PM] Mars Team says: with explain feature for task [8:57:05 PM] Mars Team says: yes dear [8:57:46 PM] ramanbasu says: Would you be at comfort if I ask you for a nominal charge for discussing since I lost my valuable time.. :) [8:58:56 PM] Mars Team says: ??? [8:59:13 PM] ramanbasu says: ah.. Andew... go on [8:59:35 PM] andrew.decosta says: yes [8:59:37 PM] Mars Team says: sorry u mean u want moeny for that discusiong..? [8:59:38 PM] andrew.decosta says: I am telling [9:00:06 PM] andrew.decosta says: If you give that's better for ours [9:00:35 PM] andrew.decosta says: becoz it is a consultancy fees [9:00:56 PM] ramanbasu says: Maybe this one will tie us together. am I right?

[9:01:00 PM] Mars Team says: if we accept u , then i will charge it, [9:01:11 PM] Mars Team says: ok [9:01:13 PM] ramanbasu says: If this sounds bad or sends bad signal to you, please dont mind [9:01:26 PM] Mars Team says: no dear, [9:01:38 PM] Mars Team says: no problem about that [9:01:55 PM] Mars Team says: we can charge it .if we see ur offer good [9:01:56 PM] ramanbasu says: thanks.. I appreciate your thinking [9:02:01 PM] Mars Team says: and i hope that [9:02:02 PM] ramanbasu says: good mind! [9:02:08 PM] andrew.decosta says: okey no problem [9:02:20 PM] andrew.decosta says: I will send our offer [9:02:40 PM] Mars Team says: how many days u need to complete offer (cost, time, fetures for evey task) [9:03:02 PM] Mars Team says: pls make it good. and remmber, we have many projects coming up. [9:03:34 PM] ramanbasu says: To be honest, more resource we have, less time in development. But I dont suggest to make hurry to create quality thing [9:04:00 PM] andrew.decosta says: We may make it within 1 days but we have to hanndel other project also [9:04:20 PM] andrew.decosta says: If I take 2 days time Raman? [9:04:25 PM] ramanbasu says: Pls allow us 2 days to make offer [9:04:32 PM] ramanbasu says: yeah - that'd be great [9:04:36 PM] Mars Team says: ok no problem , i will wait u 3 days [9:04:42 PM] ramanbasu says: Thanks :) [9:04:46 PM] andrew.decosta says: Thanks a lot [9:04:57 PM] Mars Team says: in 12-1-2008 [9:05:00 PM] Mars Team says: its ok..?? [9:05:08 PM] andrew.decosta says: yes [9:05:08 PM] ramanbasu says: sure..

[9:05:13 PM] Mars Team says: Great [9:05:24 PM] andrew.decosta says: Anything else mars? [9:05:28 PM] Mars Team says: i will wait u , thanks. [9:05:34 PM] Mars Team says: thanks alote andrew [9:05:42 PM] Mars Team says: thank alot Raman [9:05:47 PM] ramanbasu says: okay, Have a nice day.. talk to you later.. [9:05:57 PM] andrew.decosta says: Have nice day [9:06:06 PM] andrew.decosta says: talk later [9:06:13 PM] Mars Team says: thanks, see u [9:06:19 PM] andrew.decosta says: bye [9:06:34 PM] *** Mars Team has changed the chat topic to "mm" *** [9:06:36 PM] *** Mars Team has changed the chat topic to "" ***